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[Bleck]

Bleck would make a good lawyer for a company that caused a toxic waste spill that poisoned a town's water supply. You can't prove definitively that toxic waste is what caused anyone to get sick after all!

"Correlation doesn't imply causation, ladies and gentlemen of the jury."

The majority of "toxic waste" is toxic because of the presence of radiation, hazardous chemicals or pathogens.

We know those things to be dangerous because we know how they function (ionizing radiation causes cell degradation through damage to DNA, hazardous chemicals can be corrosive, poisonous or flammable, and pathogens are, well, pathogens). In those situations, correlation still doesn't imply causation ("there's radioactive materials in the river, so therefore this person must be suffering from radiation toxicity"), but rather the correlation can be inferred from the causation ("this person is suffering from radiation toxicity, so there must be a source of dangerous radiation nearby and oh hey look the river is glowing").

Unlike radiation toxicity, however, there isn't currently any data on how hormones supposedly directly affect mood via chemical changes in the brain. There is a lot of data that suggests correlation between the two, but nothing with regards to causation.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Binary linked this.
(B Inger et al, Negative mood changes during hormone replacement therapy, 2000)

Sorry to burst your bubble, but see above.

Are inferences based on the observations of hormone-release patterns of individuals when subjected to specific external stimuli, or the observations of how an individual's behavior changes when the concentration of X hormone is increased/decreased in their bodies functionally equivalent to "they just do"?

Yes. In behavioral neuroscience, inferences based on observation of behavior with and without the presence of a variable (also known as empirical evidence) aren't valid demonstrations of cause and effect.

So you're saying that the lifestyle changes brought on by the effects of steroid use, which to clarify is simply the act of having to pin yourself twice a week (since that is the only necessary lifestyle change), is a more likely explanation of increased aggression in steroid users as opposed to the premise that increased testosterone is what causes increased aggression, which has been tested repeatedly to be true in other animals?

Yes. The tests on other animals that you're referring to don't prove that testosterone causes aggression, but rather suggest a link between the two (and yes, I'm comfortable in claiming that about all studies that currently exist with regards the link between testosterone and aggression). This is why all sources of information on this topic use phrasing like "linked to", "tends to be", "proposes that", "is associated with", etc. - because there is no information to suggest that the sentence "the presence of testosterone causes increased aggression" is true.

I think the point Bleck is trying to make is its incredibly sexist to dismiss a woman because she goes through hormonal periods each month.

Yes.

BLOODBORNE IN A WEEK LETS GOOOOO

Sure wish I had a PS4.

 

[FPSWalrus]

BLOODBORNE IN A WEEK LETS GOOOOO
please actually be good

cant wait for the IGN review
like dark souls with guns 8.7/10

 

[Saito]

cant wait for the IGN review
too much blood 7.8/10

Fixed for recent accuracy.

 

[FPSWalrus]

Fixed for recent accuracy.

thanks i guess

 

[mimgrim]

BLOODBORNE IN A WEEK LETS GOOOOO
please actually be good

>Lacks PS4
>Sad

Not that it actually matters much. I'm still currently playing through Demon's Souls and still need to play Dark Souls 2 (either next month or when I finish Demon's Souls, depends on which one happens first).

 

[MechWarriorNY]

@ Bleck and @ Lizalfos

Take it to PMs if you're gonna write walls of text. (which you both always do)

 

[Vashimus]

Mech upgrading to HD gifs I see.

 

[MechWarriorNY]

Nah, that one's just massive. I like non-hueg reaction macros, less strain on bandwidth and stuff.

 

[MLGF]

Here's a bad article by someone who makes bad analogies

http://www.meleeitonme.com/on-community-integrity

Thankfully, the comment section rightfully called this article out.
Dude's an ass with asslike analogies.

 

[Rᴏb]

@ Bleck I see what you're saying. I still maintain that the possibility of hormones affecting behavior is there and is much more reasonable to assume as true rather than to assume it is only a "pseudoscience factoid that only exists to support sexist social structures".

>Lacks PS4
>Sad

Not that it actually matters much. I'm still currently playing through Demon's Souls and still need to play Dark Souls 2 (either next month or when I finish Demon's Souls, depends on which one happens first).

Honestly, you really don't. DaS2 was soo disappointing on so many levels... Granted, I haven't played the DLC, but I doubt it fixes much if anything at all.

Also here's a guide on how to get a PS4 for free:
1. Convince your brother to buy one.
2. Convince your roommate to buy one.

And now you can play it at college and at home, heh heh heh.

 

[MechWarriorNY]

You know what IS a pseudoscience that only exists to support completely inane social structures, though? Racism.
We're all the same species/race literally doesn't apply to us on any biological level, but nope.

....Dumb meatbags.

 

[Grey Belnades]

@ Bleck and @ Lizalfos
Take it to PMs if you're gonna write walls of text. (which you both always do)

No. They should take it inside the squared circle.

In a casket match.

Two men enter. One man leaves.

 

[MechWarriorNY]

If only we were so fortunate as to have internet debates involve survival of the fittest in the most literal of ways.
Would have Darwin Awards being handed out left and right in a GOOD way.
...Too bad, so sad.
:^)

Spoiler

Would be great to prune the garbage from our world, though, no joke. I enjoy the thought of it, which is very, very wrong of me, but hey, no point in lying.

 

[Soft Serve]

If only we were so fortunate as to have internet debates involve survival of the fittest in literal ways.
Would have Darwin Awards being handed out left and right in a GOOD way.
...Too bad, ech.

Be careful mech

If you die in internet arguments you die in REAL LIFE

 

[Lizalfos]

@ Bleck and @ Lizalfos

Take it to PMs if you're gonna write walls of text. (which you both always do)

Pot, kettle, adjective, whatever.

@ Bleck , when you say testosterone and hormones are linked, do you mean that testosterone doesn't cause, but could, under the right environment (the correct type of arousal [not that kind]), contribute to agressive behavior?

 

[MechWarriorNY]

@ Soft Serve
Worth the risk.
...Is what I would say if I was gonna be an edgelord today, which is not happening, so the old-fashioned way is the way to go.

 

[Bleck]

@ Bleck I see what you're saying. I still maintain that the possibility of hormones affecting behavior is there and is much more reasonable to assume as true rather than to assume it is only a "pseudoscience factoid that only exists to support sexist social structures".

I don't think it matters what anyone believes is true, in this case, so much as what they do with that belief in mind - as has been noted a few times, my point here is if you think that "hormones affect behavior" therefore means that "women are irrational and unreasonable", you're wrong.

@ Bleck , when you say testosterone and hormones are linked

Testosterone is a hormone, dude.

do you mean that testosterone doesn't cause, but could, under the right environment (the correct type of arousal [not that kind]), contribute to agressive behavior?

I don't understand what you're saying, here.

 

[Binary Clone]

I just got my internship at Argonne National Laboratory for the summer! YEEAAAH

Despite being terribly late in trying to get in... I got it!

 

[standardtoaster]

Congrats binary clone!!

 

[MechWarriorNY]

@ Binary Clone

 

[Binary Clone]

Congrats binary clone!!

Thanks! Now my resume will actually have things on it, hopefully...

Right now it's basically "did things with a robot that one time" and that's it. Fortunately organizing tournaments is something that people will look at and think, "Hey this guy gets things done sometimes."

Pro tip: Organize tournaments! It'll help grow your scene, and it'll actually look really good on a resume.

 

[standardtoaster]

Are CS internships during the winter or school year common at all? I can't do any internships during the summers. I'm worried I won't be able to get a decent internship because of this :[

 

[Lizalfos]

I don't think it matters what anyone believes is true, in this case, so much as what they do with that belief in mind - as has been noted a few times, my point here is if you think that "hormones affect behavior" therefore means that "women are irrational and unreasonable", you're wrong.



Testosterone is a hormone, dude.



I don't understand what you're saying, here.

I have to do some research. You have mind ****ed me so hard.

 

[trash?]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...of-living-ranking-for-north-america-1.2998068

B)

 

[Bleck]

great news for all the affluent people who live there

 

[MechWarriorNY]

When you're competing with America, that is not an accomplishment.

 

[Motobug]

Guys I see this ****ing ad every day and it annoys the **** out of me:

Probably the worst ad I've ever seen personally
Send help

 

[SunJester]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...of-living-ranking-for-north-america-1.2998068

B)

Does this account for the fact you have to sell a lung and a kidney and your first born child to live there?

Because I feel like it doesn't.

 

[Professor Gravy]

Guys I see this ****ing ad every day and it annoys the **** out of me:

Probably the worst ad I've ever seen personally
Send help

That made me, my kitten, and my neighbors baby cry

 

[FPSWalrus]

Guys I see this ****ing ad every day and it annoys the **** out of me:

Probably the worst ad I've ever seen personally
Send help

the ending of evangelion had more funding than this wtf

 

[trash?]

Does this account for the fact you have to sell a lung and a kidney and your first born child to live there?

Because I feel like it doesn't.

it does not cost as much as ppl think it should tbh, although it definitely used to. if you live around the california area, you're probably spending twice as much for a similar-sized apartment

granted, that's because being close to downtown vancouver itself doesn't matter as much as living near a train station does so you don't have to waste a transit ticket early on a bus lmao

 

[Giygacoal]

Mabel is adorable

Hey, spoiler alert!

Did you go through the shorts? The Fixin' It With Soos shorts are in my opinion two of the funniest episodes in the series;
I used to edit videos, so they were right up my alley.

 

[SunJester]

it does not cost as much as ppl think it should tbh, although it definitely used to. if you live around the california area, you're probably spending twice as much for a similar-sized apartment

granted, that's because being close to downtown vancouver itself doesn't matter as much as living near a train station does so you don't have to waste a transit ticket early on a bus lmao

Apartments aren't as bad, but someday I'd like to be a homeowner some day and paying about 3x the price the rest of the province does for a house is ridiculous to me.

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/01/vancouver-ranked-second-least-affordable-world/

In terms of average income vs average house price, its second to only shanghai.

I'm sure people can make do, and I love Vancouver, but it isn't worth my financial security, I guess for some people it is though.

 

[Leafeon]

@ Bleck and @ Lizalfos

Take it to PMs if you're gonna write walls of text. (which you both always do)

PM...s.... PMS....
.....rip

 

[Lizalfos]

Guys I see this ****ing ad every day and it annoys the **** out of me:

Probably the worst ad I've ever seen personally
Send help

This guy is the dankest of memers. Tell him to start a Patreon.

When you're competing with America, that is not an accomplishment.

You know america isn't all that bad of a place. We are good at winning. Especially Smash.

 

[Mansta]

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/dai...n-tv-anime-listed-for-october-premiere/.86056
Apparently the OPM Anime is airing in October, I thought it was going to take way longer than that.
HYPE

 

[FPSWalrus]

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/dai...n-tv-anime-listed-for-october-premiere/.86056
Apparently the OPM Anime is airing in October, I thought it was going to take way longer than that.
HYPE

:O
And then Kyoani is making a show about band in may, this is gonna be a good year for anime.

 

[Player -0]

@ Lizalfos Look at above posts then back to my old one. Context.

 

[AuraMaudeGone]

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/dai...n-tv-anime-listed-for-october-premiere/.86056
Apparently the OPM Anime is airing in October, I thought it was going to take way longer than that.
HYPE

Oh my...

Dreams do come true...

 

[Lizalfos]

@ Lizalfos Look at above posts then back to my old one. Context.

blood ≠ water

Periods shouldn't be seriously painful either.

Edit: OHHHH you meant a bucket of cold water. It is actually more confusing in context.
Edit 2: And by seriously painful I mean more than cramping and discomfort, but I guess that is enough to make a person irritable. I guess you could draw parallels to people in uncomfortably hot temperature also having shorter tempers.