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Gamegenie222

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Man I need to step up my FG vid watching game but GG FAB tho( Not Tekken player Fab). Too much Paper Mario 1 and Smash 4.


EDIT: Mario Party 1 LMAO.
 
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OSCA MIKE

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why the **** do people like mobile games

the screen is so damn tiny, and all mobile games ive seen that are played for any length of time are nothing but skinner's boxes
 
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Mobile games are gaaaarbo. Play one "endless" game and you've played them all. Minecraft's the only one that does that kind of concept well and it's not even a mobile game (originally; and don't make me sick it's so much worse on mobile than PC). Until more information is released though, I'm not gonna think much about it.
 

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I dunno, i've seen some people do some pretty irrational **** because of pms
the idea that hormonal changes can make people (read: women) act irrationally is a pseudoscience factoid that only exists to support sexist social structures

women are, in fact, sapient beings like men, and if they're acting a certain way it's because they have thoughts and feelings and experiences that have contributed, at that moment, to them feeling that way - not because their supposedly inferior brains have fallen prey to some manner of faulty programming
 

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Mobile games are gaaaarbo. Play one "endless" game and you've played them all. Minecraft's the only one that does that kind of concept well and it's not even a mobile game (originally; and don't make me sick it's so much worse on mobile than PC). Until more information is released though, I'm not gonna think much about it.
Eh, theres 1 or 2 mobile games I find enjoyable.
in reality though the only games i have on my phone are attached to the gameboy emulator
 

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Mobile games are gaaaarbo. Play one "endless" game and you've played them all. Minecraft's the only one that does that kind of concept well and it's not even a mobile game (originally; and don't make me sick it's so much worse on mobile than PC). Until more information is released though, I'm not gonna think much about it.
I never really played mobile games and I am thankful for that. I played Minecraft though (and occasionaly, so maybe once every few weeks) still play it and I enjoy it. For some reason I regard it as one of the best games to express creative thoughts.
 

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the idea that hormonal changes can make people (read: women) act irrationally is a pseudoscience factoid that only exists to support sexist social structures

women are, in fact, sapient beings like men, and if they're acting a certain way it's because they have thoughts and feelings and experiences that have contributed, at that moment, to them feeling that way - not because their supposedly inferior brains have fallen prey to some manner of faulty programming
The thread dumbass
 

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I did that ACT thing today and I think I did okay
kinda messed up the last two sections but hopefully it doesn't hurt my score too badly
get dat college and career readiness
 

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the idea that hormonal changes can make people (read: women) act irrationally is a pseudoscience factoid that only exists to support sexist social structures
Can you provide any evidence for this, because this goes against basically every thing I've learned about the relationship between hormones and the brain. To say that hormonal changes can't possibly influence our behavior (man or woman) to the point where we do something 'irrational' seems ridiculous to me.
 

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Anyone know the specifics of when Items get knocked out of your hands? I'm curious, I always thought it was completely random since 64, but does it have to do with where you get hit? What you were doing when you got hit? Knockback?

Really curious because it happens decently often and can both break me out of combos/grabs, as well as kill me because I needed that extra recovery boost from AGT, or tossing banana from the ledge to clear some space for me to make it back, etc.
 

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Anyone know the specifics of when Items get knocked out of your hands? I'm curious, I always thought it was completely random since 64, but does it have to do with where you get hit? What you were doing when you got hit? Knockback?

Really curious because it happens decently often and can both break me out of combos/grabs, as well as kill me because I needed that extra recovery boost from AGT, or tossing banana from the ledge to clear some space for me to make it back, etc.
Isn't RNG a fantastic element?
 

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Can you provide any evidence for this, because this goes against basically every thing I've learned about the relationship between hormones and the brain. To say that hormonal changes can't possibly influence our behavior (man or woman) to the point where we do something 'irrational' seems ridiculous to me.
See roid rage as an example albeit an unnatural one.

There is also something called premenstrual dysphoric disorder (PMDD) which is all the stereotypes of random, extreme mood swings made completely real.
 
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I thought that Bleck's point was that using pms to insult women or insinuate they have less autonomy is ****ed up.
 

Bleck

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Can you provide any evidence for this, because this goes against basically every thing I've learned about the relationship between hormones and the brain.
I can't, because my evidence is the lack of evidence that supports the idea that hormones directly cause mood changes.

Can you explain how hormones cause changes in mood in the brain in a capacity that isn't functionally equivalent to "they just do"?

I thought that Bleck's point was that using pms to insult women or insinuate they have less autonomy is ****ed up.
Yes.

See roid rage as an example albeit an unnatural one.
There isn't any evidence that roid rage actually exists - or, more specifically, that steroids actually chemically induce increased aggression somehow. It's likely that the increased aggression or assertiveness is a result of personality changes as a result of lifestyle changes brought on by the effects of the steroid use.
 
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Nintendo going into mobile is caution inducing to some degree but it's greatly softened in my eyes because of how they do things.

They go against the grain in most every scenario with their REGULAR consoles. What the hell are they gonna do about their smartphone games? Even if they're outsourcing the development they ultimately have control in it.....

Either way as long as they don't abandon their console markets I really don't care. The minute that happens is when I actually get upset, but all this is to me is stock boosting and an attempt.

CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE NX and the unified networking system tho?! Having an account linked around conveniently that isn't archaic as sin is super progressive and I like the sound of that.
 
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I can't, because my evidence is the lack of evidence that supports the idea that hormones directly cause mood changes.
What kind of argument is that? There are plenty of studies on hormonal effects on mood, and a study with no correlation between hormone and mood would support your point of view, yet you still cite no evidence whatsoever. You are not magically exempt from the burden of proof.

There are studies that indicate that hormonal differences during the menstrual cycle and postpartum emotional disturbance are negligible in effect (P N Nott et al, Hormonal changes and mood in the puerperium, 1976) (T Backstrom et al, Mood, Sexuality, Hormones, and the Menstrual Cycle, 2983).


But stating that hormones don't have anything to do with mood is untrue. There are also plenty of studies that show that this is true. Postmenopausal hormone replacement therapy in women shows that women respond strongly to different types of hormone replacement therapy (B Inger et al, Negative mood changes during hormone replacement therapy, 2000). Or that testosterone replacement therapy has a distinct positive effect on men (Testosterone replacement therapy improves mood in hypogonadal men, 2013).


Really, guys, Google exists, Google Scholar is a thing, this is really ****ing easy, and none of you have any excuse.
 

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You are not magically exempt from the burden of proof.
You quoted me saying that there are no studies that demonstrate how hormones cause mood changes, and then linked several studies about a correlation (or lack thereof) between hormones and mood changes.

Correlation doesn't imply causation. Studies that demonstrate correlation exist to support the idea that investigation into whether or not correlated variables are directly or indirectly caused should be undertaken - but in this particular case, there have been no studies into the latter, and as such, there is no evidence at this time that demonstrates that hormones can or do directly cause mood changes.

I was serious.

This is my serious attempt at a reasonable hypothesis.
It's reasonable to assume that people often act more emotional or irrational when they're placed in a situation that society has spent their entire lives convincing them will make them act that way. The placebo effect is a real thing.
 

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Pretty sure it hurts. People in pain will typically act without as much thought as someone who was just chilling. Same goes for people that were sleeping or something and someone was like, "SURPRISE WATER!" (without consent)
 

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It's reasonable to assume that people often act more emotional or irrational when they're placed in a situation that society has spent their entire lives convincing them will make them act that way. The placebo effect is a real thing.
I guess you were the mistaken one @ MechWarriorNY MechWarriorNY . If you want to know how I did it, the secret is I read Sway. It talks about diagnostic bias. It is a real thing.
You quoted me saying that there are no studies that demonstrate how hormones cause mood changes, and then linked several studies about a correlation (or lack thereof) between hormones and mood changes.

Correlation doesn't imply causation. Studies that demonstrate correlation exist to support the idea that investigation into whether or not correlated variables are directly or indirectly caused should be undertaken - but in this particular case, there have been no studies into the latter, and as such, there is no evidence at this time that demonstrates that hormones can or do directly cause mood changes
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Binary linked this.
(B Inger et al, Negative mood changes during hormone replacement therapy, 2000)
Pretty sure it hurts. People in pain will typically act without as much thought as someone who was just chilling. Same goes for people that were sleeping or something and someone was like, "SURPRISE WATER!" (without consent)
wth are you talking about? Childbirth???
 

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Can you explain how hormones cause changes in mood in the brain in a capacity that isn't functionally equivalent to "they just do"?
Are inferences based on the observations of hormone-release patterns of individuals when subjected to specific external stimuli, or the observations of how an individual's behavior changes when the concentration of X hormone is increased/decreased in their bodies functionally equivalent to "they just do"?
There isn't any evidence that roid rage actually exists - or, more specifically, that steroids actually chemically induce increased aggression somehow. It's likely that the increased aggression or assertiveness is a result of personality changes as a result of lifestyle changes brought on by the effects of the steroid use.
So you're saying that the lifestyle changes brought on by the effects of steroid use, which to clarify is simply the act of having to pin yourself twice a week (since that is the only necessary lifestyle change), is a more likely explanation of increased aggression in steroid users as opposed to the premise that increased testosterone is what causes increased aggression, which has been tested repeatedly to be true in other animals?
 

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Bleck would make a good lawyer for a company that caused a toxic waste spill that poisoned a town's water supply. You can't prove definitively that toxic waste is what caused anyone to get sick after all!

"Correlation doesn't imply causation, ladies and gentlemen of the jury."
 
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Bleck would make a good lawyer for a company that caused a toxic waste spill that poisoned a town's water supply. You can't prove definitively that toxic waste is what caused anyone to get sick after all!

"Correlation doesn't imply causation, ladies and gentlemen of the jury."
actually my masters was doing case studies of this, you can correlate addresses of people with a suspected illness via medical records and map it with a spatial analyst tool over a set geographical range and identify a point source of pollution, and then test it for statistical significance to prove the relation. so for an easy example, you suspect that a local coal plant is causing asthma, so you process the data for asthma cases in the past 6 months, map their density of occurrence, and figure out it was the interstate bridge over some housing development instead. we've been doing this stuff for over 50 years.

edit: as a medical professional, its basically considered common knowledge that hormonal changes can cause vastly and person-specific mood changes. you shouldn't need case studies to candidly verify knowledge so broadly available, and its a fairly shameful tactic to bully people into thinking that they do.
 
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how did you guys even get to talking about periods

as a girl i can say that the hormonal shifts or whatever definitely impact my general mood but not in any sort of immediately noticeable way. i get quicker to cry/anger/etc. but for the most part im just regular old bec, just a little easier to influence moodwise
 

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TL;DR: Our biology and environment interact. Though its incredibly hard to quantify how much.

IMO Environment has more to do than biology.

Hormones do influence behaviour though : See teenagers. However, by observing teenagers, I think we can infer that the level that hormones effect their mood/personality varies from teenager to teenager. I think the point Bleck is trying to make is its incredibly sexist to dismiss a woman because she goes through hormonal periods each month.
 
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