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Why would I count a MUGEN style game when talking about canon movesets?

Unless copying Smash Flash makes Nintendo start sponsoring us too, then that would be a good strategic decision.
I think you're getting SSF2 mixed up with SSF1. There are questionable presences in the SSF2 roster as well, but the devs have repeatedly made it clear that they've been grandfather claused due to already being programmed by the time they changed their design goal in 2011, and no more of their type will be added.

They haven't been removed because they have a substantial number of existing mains that they don't want to upset. No other reason.

Hopefully I won't have to explain this more than once and people will help me out lmao:

There are ground rules and good judgement put to work. We don't slap characters together and throw a big mess out.

Anime characters, which (obviously) are the majority of the hate-mongers, are in because SSF1 had them, and back when SSF2 was a direct sequel, the game basically sucked up all of the SSF1 characters and added more to them. Quite a few updates were done and quite a few characters added before an actual team formed, and once we had an actual team the direction of the game was modified heavily. At that point though, as any game developer has to do, we assessed our target audience.

One of the reasons why SSF1 was so popular actually were the anime fans. To dangle forbidden fruit in their face and then rip it out of the game after multiple releases would alienate our current fanbase in order to appeal to a new fanbase, and that is probably one of the worst things anyone creating a work to be widely enjoyed can do.

So, to meet in the middle, anime/manga characters in our planned roster were SUPER cut down. Basically the ones that were already done were just polished instead, and we've gone to extreme lengths to make them feel at home in a Smash engine and bring unique playstyles to the table. And for those looking for a more realistic Smash roster, we've added not only underdogs such as Chibi-Robo, but also the big players such as Isaac that everyone's been craving.

Our rule is that potential characters must have appeared on a Nintendo console for a major release. Don't get us wrong - this is still a Nintendo beat-em-up, but our rules are a little less restrictive is all. That rule coupled with good judgement has made our roster into something I'm VERY proud of, and I can't wait for everyone to see everything else.

The idea of a "4th party" is something completely invented by the Smash fandom, anyway. 2nd party characters are characters made in-house or in-partnership by Nintendo, 3rd party are licensed characters. Even the off-the-wall characters still fall under 3rd party, and are definitely still being kept to a reasonable level, less than half in the public release iirc and that's not even considering what the full roster looks like.

this looks like a big angry rant tho <3 but <3
 
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Sami would be cool too
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Whoo, Advanced Wars, nobody seems to know about these games... Still unrepresented despite Famicon wars having a huge role in Nintendo's early handheld days...
Knuckles is obviously the better choice though, he just makes more sense in a fighting game and can bring alot of cannon mechanics directly into play from other titles, honestly if Sonic didn't have the notoriety and namesake of the series I probably would have had Knuckles occupy his slot in Brawl.
Danky Kang tho
 

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Personally, I'd rather have Blaze over literally everyone else, actually.

But just speaking in terms of Knuckles, I'm more than up for the idea. Especially since it could be a very promising alternative. He might end up being the Ganon to Sonic and I love me some Ganon to contrast my Falcon.

Plus, Knuckles brings all sorts of fun jokes to the table.
 

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Yeah, I'm not necessarily against Knuckles, he's just... you know, a minor character.
 

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Personally, I'd rather have Blaze over literally everyone else, actually.

But just speaking in terms of Knuckles, I'm more than up for the idea. Especially since it could be a very promising alternative. He might end up being the Ganon to Sonic and I love me some Ganon to contrast my Falcon.

Plus, Knuckles brings all sorts of fun jokes to the table.
Yes! not many people notice Blaze or ever bring he into the equation. But she is one of Sonic's best friends besides Tails and Knuckles.
And she could utilize her pyrokinetic powers!
 

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Yes! not many people notice Blaze or ever bring he into the equation. But she is one of Sonic's best friends besides Tails and Knuckles.
And she could utilize her pyrokinetic powers!
...I was thinking of something a bit more technical and analytical when it came to why I'd like her to be playable rather than that, but that's true, too.

If Knux would essentially be a Ganon type variant to Sonic, I could see Blaze easily being a Wolf type variant.
 

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Blaze could have some epic Roy Mustang poses for taunts.

More blue fire attacks to separate her from the cast would be a nice change of pace too.
 

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Blaze could have some epic Roy Mustang poses for taunts.

More purple fire attacks to separate her from the cast would be a nice change of pace too.
Fixed.

Cause purple bias.

And her flames actually have a purple tint, hue and fade to them when going outwards if you look at them in the Rush games.

But in all seriousness, that is a pretty cool idea.
 

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Does anyone want Saki to be playable? Cause I don't see much talk about him at all, anywhere on Smashboards. Its quite sad :sadeyes:
 

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Does anyone want Saki to be playable? Cause I don't see much talk about him at all, anywhere on Smashboards. Its quite sad :sadeyes:
Well, S&P doesn't really have that big of a fanbase compared to GS, FE, and Sonic, but I wouldn't mind him being playable. I have been curious about his games.
 

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So what the hell is with the PMDT apparently noticing the leaks or something like that?
I don't think the leaked characters are in any danger of removal. After all, it looks like they've already done a couple hundred hours' worth of work on them, and why throw all that out just because someone got loose-lipped?
 

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Knucks over tails simply because it would be way easier to animate compared to his two tails.
 

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Well, S&P doesn't really have that big of a fanbase compared to GS, FE, and Sonic, but I wouldn't mind him being playable. I have been curious about his games.
Well, to relieve you of your curiosity, He was only in S&P in the 64 one and not in the Wii one in 2010 because his son was the protagonist. But what I'm saying is that they're doesnt seem to be any hints if him being playable in the near future or another S&P game.
And all I have to say about him not being in smash 4 is
 

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The fact that these leaks are allowed to be talked about makes me question whether they are real or not.

I'd rather just ask the PMBR directly.

@PMDT

IS THIS **** REAL OR NOT.

QUELL RUMORS PLEASE.
 

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I don't think they care enough about the leaks to go and shut anything down. Said leaks in question were pretty far in work so I mean, I doubt they'd scrap the effort THAT late.

They're just gonna let us speculate silently =P
 

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I still don't see how this would be fake
Unless someone would so kindly enlighten me on what the flaws are in this.
 
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I still don't see how this would be fake
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Unless someone would so kindly enlighten me on what the flaws are in this.
...You're about to get a warning for this. that or this content will be removed.
 
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good on you to actually remember to remove it from the quote
Thanks for bringing that up, Nixie.

He's and/or she's right. The rest of you guys need to remove the vid from your quotes, too.

@ ZeldaFan01 ZeldaFan01 You need to edit the video out of your post.
 

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What we're allowed to talk about it but not actually post it?

I..I..I don't understand that logic..
 

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What we're allowed to talk about it but not actually post it?

I..I..I don't understand that logic..
Video evidence can be seen as proof. Text can be seen as idle speculation. They want to keep some image of professional security is my guess.
 
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