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Did nobody else see those 50+ extravagant things that Nintendo (the developer of the game) tried to help Direct us with regarding this party game towards it being a good party game?

tl;dr love it because it's a lovely game.
Hail Parities
Hail Nintendo
Hail Smash
Hail Meiling and other 10 year old waifus
 
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I'm conflicted over my game of choice.

I mean, I like and reapect SSB4 because it actually has a balanced roster AND it's the only version I can play against real human beings.

At the same time, though, I feel an... obligation to Melee/P:M. like I'll be hung as a traitor if I don't make one of those my primary game.
 

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Just do what I do and play everything. I'm not ashamed about it, I enjoy the series as a whole lol. If people have an issue with that, well, that's their problem.

I'll always play P:M though, it got me back into Smash Bros and now look where I'm at.
 

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I'm conflicted over my game of choice.

I mean, I like and reapect SSB4 because it actually has a balanced roster AND it's the only version I can play against real human beings.

At the same time, though, I feel an... obligation to Melee/P:M. like I'll be hung as a traitor if I don't make one of those my primary game.
The game has been out for a month only, we'll see just how balanced it is after some more time passes.
 

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i just want to play a game that I won't be made fun of for... but that pretty much leaves me with just vMelee. And as much as I respect it for lasting so long, that gross roster imbalance is just not my cup of tea .

@ shairn shairn : It seems to be holding up very well so far,at least in that department .
 
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Today I got hit on by a group of 15 year old girls. I don't know if I should feel okay about this or not.

Jail bait tiers too stronk

I don't like sm4sh that much. I realize now that past a casual level I don't like smash as a whole, I just fell in love with melee and it's movement options feeling so free a fluid. PM emulates this well. Sm4sh is a good game but it's not for me, for the same reasons I wouldn't enter a 64 tourney. I don't like the movement that much, it feels clunky.
 

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See why I'm so self conscious? I feel like a fool being so excited over and willing to defend what's apparently clearly a terrible game.
 

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We play smash, we can't get away without being made fun of, it just won't happen in this fgc. Our community is much better than the rest of the fgc when it comes to acceptance of people and games, but there will always be people who rag on you and your game.
Even sf4 has haters, super turbo and 3rd strike still have dedicated fan bases

The only games you could play without getting made fun of some how are probably ultra and GG when xrd comes out
 

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See why I'm so self conscious? I feel like a fool being so excited over and willing to defend what's apparently clearly a terrible game.
Smash 4 is a good game
It's great
It's just not good for anything like a competition/tournament setting that's supposed to be a determination of developed abilities with the game with more on the line than anything but good laughs.
Play it and love it already.
Play the others if you like them for what they're good for.
Play GG for Jam to the face
 
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Yung Mei

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^I'll make fun of you for comments like that
but nobody will make fun of you for playing games you like to play
Unless they're the kinds of people that you can make fun of for making comments that are stupid


Callin u out with my pocket puff
Ur probs onry 9

Smash 4 is hella imba

Play em all
ill take your callout, no one actually uses Puff in PM except me, 2 easy 2 expose frauds like u
 

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bring it
mah puff sensei coached hugz who coached mango in the gfs against armada with puff at genesis
been trainin in the hills against wit dem teachings frogs and dragons blown into balloons by ogres and donkeys
mah bodiz reday
studied teh scrollz
 
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Smash 4 is a good game
It's great
It's just not good for anything like a competition/tournament setting that's supposed to be a determination of developed abilities with the game with more on the line than anything but good laughs.
Play it and love it already.
Play the others if you like them for what they're good for.
Play GG for Jam to the face
SEE? Terrible game and I should just die for ever daring to think it might be not-horrible competitively.
 
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What's wrong with you?
You can still have loads of fun competiting with it, and that's totally what all comp is for anyway. It's not gonna be functionally balanced when it comes to test of skill on a mental level at any decent peak so that won't be the focal point of why it's good for comps, but it's still great for fun/coolness/etc if you like it for all of that, and liking something is totally subjective and up to peoples own discretion.

I still gon play mario kart in competition with friends
But no way it should be something people put gambling into when the winner is closer to random than other games
Enjoy the game dammit and be happy lol

You're acting like you think some weird prejudice is overbearing when today's world is almost all about breaking prejudices because of how stupid they are.
Be happy and play
Or just die for daring to think but that's pretty craycray haha
My cousins last name is Saik (my moms maiden name)
Is your name Saik? Cause I've never met another person with the name Saik


oh btw look at my mains in the games
bottom tier
horrible chars for comp play
You don see people straight up drop the things they love when they're wholesomely fun
I don really main them but you get the point
 
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Commander Hen

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Dude, you're going to get made fun of for liking anything that isn't popular opinion. It is way too early to say Smash 4 sucks because the one we have now is like a tease for the dessert to come (the controooooools), but even when we can play with other controllers people still won't like it, it's just not their playstyle. It's a much more mind based game than a techincal one
 
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SEE? Terrible game and I should just die for ever daring to think it might be not-horrible competitively.
you okay dude? just don't give a **** about dumb **** like people's opinion of you for liking a videogame
 
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What's wrong with you?
You can still have loads of fun competiting with it, and that's totally what all comp is for anyway. It's not gonna be functionally balanced when it comes to test of skill on a mental level at any decent peak so that won't be the focal point of why it's good for comps, but it's still great for fun/coolness/etc if you like it for all of that, and liking something is totally subjective and up to peoples own discretion.

I still gon play mario kart in competition with friends
But no way it should be something people put gambling into when the winner is closer to random than other games
Enjoy the game dammit and be happy lol

You're acting like you think some weird prejudice is overbearing when today's world is almost all about breaking prejudices because of how stupid they are.
Be happy and play
Or just die for daring to think but that's pretty craycray haha
My cousins last name is Saik (my moms maiden name)
Is your name Saik? Cause I've never met another person with the name Saik


oh btw look at my mains in the games
bottom tier
horrible chars for comp play
You don see people straight up drop the things they love when they're wholesomely fun
I don really main them but you get the point
I think he was just joking.


Only reason I still play Smash 4 is because I rarely see my play group and this is the only way to get my Smash fix until the next time I see them.

Also I think the games I have the most laughs with are the ones I enjoy the most at a competitive level.
 

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No we don't actually
EDIT: oh, my name changed in just 7 hours, cool
Whoa whoa! We can change our names? D:

I took like an hour to pick this name because I was so sure I would be stuck with it.
It's a good name too, I didn't need to resort to underscores or numbers, but now it means so much less...
 
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Dude, you're going to get made fun of for liking anything that isn't popular opinion. It is way too early to say Smash 4 sucks because the one we have now is like a tease for the dessert to come (the controooooools), but even when we can play with other controllers people still won't like it, it's just not their playstyle. It's a much more mind based game than a techincal one
Seems to have some tech involved but either way I don't think saying it's a mind based game more than tech one actually means anything. They're not all at parallel or even relatable when it comes to 'proportionally' being factors in a game.
Melee isn't good because it has a balance of mind and tech. It has lots of tech to keep the mind part near infinite. They aren't parallel or related in any other way than the mechanics of the game allowing for the mental part of it to be fully functional. If you could do craycray shizz in Mario Kart, it would just open up the options to have a more flexible decision making spectrum within the game, but it's not more 'tech heavy' or 'mind heavy' or anything. There's both and one 'can' compliment the other, but not necessarily.
Even WoW or something. There's no mind to the 'building of a char' when the tech flushes out because they mechanics of the game (the tech) doesn't flexify the game when static things come into play like the stat numbers or whatever for optimizing. The gameplay itself isn't effected on a mental level by the mechanics of this.
Smash 4 has flexy-tech, but it's NOT more mind heavy because of lacking tech. Don't make that mistake.
Random notes...


Nixie you gotta be premium for that I think
 
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you okay dude? just don't give a **** about dumb **** like people's opinion of you liking a videogame
I'm cripplingly depressed and in desperate need of an intellectual escape. It's all I have left.

I prefer the mental focus of SSB4 above the technical focus because I enjoy things like chess and traditional martial arts more than what I honestly feel is more a chore than a skill.

What's wrong with you?
You can still have loads of fun competiting with it, and that's totally what all comp is for anyway. It's not gonna be functionally balanced when it comes to test of skill on a mental level at any decent peak so that won't be the focal point of why it's good for comps, but it's still great for fun/coolness/etc if you like it for all of that, and liking something is totally subjective and up to peoples own discretion.

I still gon play mario kart in competition with friends
But no way it should be something people put gambling into when the winner is closer to random than other games
Enjoy the game dammit and be happy lol

You're acting like you think some weird prejudice is overbearing when today's world is almost all about breaking prejudices because of how stupid they are.
Be happy and play
Or just die for daring to think but that's pretty craycray haha
My cousins last name is Saik (my moms maiden name)
Is your name Saik? Cause I've never met another person with the name Saik


oh btw look at my mains in the games
bottom tier
horrible chars for comp play
You don see people straight up drop the things they love when they're wholesomely fun
I don really main them but you get the point
No, Saik's not my real name. It's a pun; Saikyō is the Japanese word for "strongest" and the name of the self-taught quote unquote "fighting style" of Dan in Street Fighter.
 
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Whoa whoa! We can change our names? D:

I took like an hour to pick this name because I was so sure I would be stuck with it.
It's a good name too, I didn't need to resort to underscores or numbers, but now it means so much less...
if it makes you feel better, name changes are available to Premium users only
 

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Today I got hit on by a group of 15 year old girls. I don't know if I should feel okay about this or not.

Jail bait tiers too stronk

I don't like sm4sh that much. I realize now that past a casual level I don't like smash as a whole, I just fell in love with melee and it's movement options feeling so free a fluid. PM emulates this well. Sm4sh is a good game but it's not for me, for the same reasons I wouldn't enter a 64 tourney. I don't like the movement that much, it feels clunky.
Happened a month ago to me
I was confused and lost
 

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Today I got hit on by a group of 15 year old girls. I don't know if I should feel okay about this or not.

Jail bait tiers too stronk
My little sis goes to an all girls boarding school and I'm a handsome guy. Every freaking time I visited.

They haven't learned how to be subtle when flirting yet since most boys their age are oblivious anyway, so it's just adorable when they do it to you.
 
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We play smash, we can't get away without being made fun of, it just won't happen in this fgc. Our community is much better than the rest of the fgc when it comes to acceptance of people and games, but there will always be people who rag on you and your game.
Even sf4 has haters, super turbo and 3rd strike still have dedicated fan bases

The only games you could play without getting made fun of some how are probably ultra and GG when xrd comes out
You sure about that man I think it's 50/50 about game acceptance and I think it's sometimes worse with the smash community at times. IT's just with the FGC if you don't like a game you can easily find another game to play but the majority play SF4 and EVO dictates what games people play every year. Outside of smash I play 3d games and they all different and Soul Calibur and Tekken community don't get along at times mostly being made by the same company and IDK about DOA cause they are quiet as hell like mice after Tom Brady exposed alot of BS that made smash MLG stuff in the Brawl era look like child's play and VF players are mostly older and they just want people to play their game but VF has a big stigma of being one of the hardest if not the hardest FG's to learn.

And dude play Airdashers you can get possibly the closest movement and freedom you can get to melee when it comes to those games.
 
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Seems to have some tech involved but either way I don't think saying it's a mind based game more than tech one actually means anything. They're not all at parallel or even relatable when it comes to 'proportionally' being factors in a game.
Melee isn't good because it has a balance of mind and tech. It has lots of tech to keep the mind part near infinite. They aren't parallel or related in any other way than the mechanics of the game allowing for the mental part of it to be fully functional. If you could do craycray shizz in Mario Kart, it would just open up the options to have a more flexible decision making spectrum within the game, but it's not more 'tech heavy' or 'mind heavy' or anything. There's both and one 'can' compliment the other, but not necessarily.
Even WoW or something. There's no mind to the 'building of a char' when the tech flushes out because they mechanics of the game (the tech) doesn't flexify the game when static things come into play like the stat numbers or whatever for optimizing. The gameplay itself isn't effected on a mental level by the mechanics of this.
Smash 4 has flexy-tech, but it's NOT more mind heavy because of lacking tech. Don't make that mistake.
Random notes...


Nixie you gotta be premium for that I think
Yeah I know, I guess by "more of a mind game" I meant that there is more of this element than tech skill, which, like in Brawl, there is. So you're right
 

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Yeah I know, I guess by "more of a mind game" I meant that there is more of this element than tech skill, which, like in Brawl, there is. So you're right
No, Brawl really WAS random half the time.

4 takes out the random input delay that was in Brawl and the random elements of several attacks, even attacks that were randomized in Melee, so I don't see where 1FD's getting the "match decided by random chance" thing from.
 
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I came to smashboards looking to date sexy ladies.
Where are the ladies?


Speaking of... @ Strong Badam Strong Badam i was watching some match with infinity and D1 commentating last night and infinity was like, "Strong bad, you need a manicure." I died laughing
 

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Probably because I had a manicure before that tournament.



Get jealous
 
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No one of my own age has ever really flirted with me, if my memory is correct. It's always been older chicks.
 

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Yeah, I appreciate the sentiment. :p

I guess I just feel 4 is more mind heavy because I can focus on the match and not how much my hands hurt or how much I DON'T want to be playing as this character.
Did they include a light press shoulder trigger option?
 

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Soft Serve said:
I don't like the movement that much, it feels clunky.
Smash 4 is a good game
It's great
It's just not good for anything like a competition/tournament setting that's supposed to be a determination of developed abilities with the game with more on the line than anything but good laughs.
Eh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW7az41Xv_s

Give it time.

(I also have to wonder what on earth you think a competition is??? Every Smash game thus far is perfectly fine for a determination of developed abilities... or else someone should spell it out)

No, Brawl really WAS random half the time.

4 takes out the random input delay that was in Brawl and the random elements of several attacks, even attacks that were randomized in Melee, so I don't see where 1FD's getting the "match decided by random chance" thing from.
I guess half of Nario's wins were random??? Doesn't makes sense that he didn't drop a set at Apex... or 9B at SKTAR 3...

Why do the PM boards seem so prone to hyperbole?
 

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No, Brawl really WAS random half the time.

4 takes out the random input delay that was in Brawl and the random elements of several attacks, even attacks that were randomized in Melee, so I don't see where 1FD's getting the "match decided by random chance" thing from.
I'm just saying that Smash 4 in based more on the mind than tech, even in Brawl it was like that even though there were random elements.
 
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