asob4
Smash Champion
rainbow cruise is the bane of my existence
delfino is 50-50
frigate really isn't that bad :/
delfino is 50-50
frigate really isn't that bad :/
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Spiked! =]you could always go to the side of the stage like pokemon trainer does... he has this game figured out, he is unhittable XD
I see a lot about how people should rate a match ups for Pokemon Trainer.so definitely don't average the matchups, it's all about how all 3 work together here.
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Wait wut? Grabbing a plucking Olimar in the beginning? lol. It takes .6 seconds to get ready to throw them. Charizard will only be half way across the stage before I'm chucking them.Going for a grab against a plucking Pikmin with Zard is good.. if you notice they have the tendency to go for the 3 at the start of the match nearly all the time. Maybe this works against the mass of Olimar players but I pluck one to bait someone in to rushing in for something dumb and grab them myself.
I'd like to hear your thoughts.Protoman10 said:Not too sure but I do have experience against good squirtles if you qould like my input. Chillin (beat him in a firendly SO HARD! and MexiMadness not too known but great none the less.
Ivysaur's U-Smash is one of the strongest in the game.As you know, I've played a bunch of matches with steeler just now. About 20ish? There wasn't too much lag either. Just occasionally. He kept beating me in the beginning,(I don't play online like ever. no johns. lol) but by the end, we went about even. It doesn't matter though. It was online. I had never sat down to play that many matches with a PT before. I enjoyed it. ;P
Ivysaur-
I'm not sure about this matchup. All the ivysaurs I've played against before weren't as good as steeler's. I'm thinking it's about even.
So, from what I could tell, Olimar outcamps ivysaur, but not by much though. In the beginning, it can be hard to get a pikmin past the leaves, but if you do, you've won the camp war. you've GOT to jump over the leaves and then throw. You can't just stand there like I see some people do. Once you latch one, he has to stop hurling his leaves in order to kill the pikmin, and since he doesn't have very many options to kill them with, you can just keep chucking them at the fella. Thus he has to come to you.
Up close, he's got many options to space with: ftilt, (his best) leaves, dtilt,(if you get too close) and bair.(hard to get past) for all of them, you just have to shield through them. Ftilt lasts FOREVER though, and the timing is similar to GaW turtle. bair is like GaW's turtle, but you've got to run in and shield it. If you get to close while shielding, he'll probably follow up with ftilt, so just shield both, and THEN grab. The bair doesn't have lag.
Killing- He's vulnerable from below b/c his dair is laggy and slow, so try to juggle from there. Just watch out for his bulletseed, b/c it's a beast. (underrated might I add) I'm still not sure which way to DI. Upsmashes work well b/c of the combination of his floatyness and his dair.
He can kill you pretty easily also though. He's got fsmash, upair, fair, and upsmash,(sometimes) They all kill well, especially the latter. He'll use it to punish all dodges in general. Just wait for it to end and grab the sucka. It's got surprising range as well.
What is this "Worm" of wich you speak of?P.S. It's a pity-Olimar's 'Worm' can out-prioritise Pit's Angel Ring...but not Ivysaur's Razor Leaf.