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Pokemon trainer FAQ Read this ((CHU & Chillin vids added!)))

smashvillain18

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Nice thread you have here. Pokemon Trainer is going to be a beast. Nice FS; look forward to seeing the effects of changing pokemon ( if they breath hardwhen left on the field too long ). Gonna enjoy fighting as him, as well all the characters in brawl. Who knows who's gonna show up. Hopefully, we can all find a place to trade wii codes. If you want to, please save me as a friend and leave me your wii code in a note. I'll reply with my code.
 

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thanks! my wii code is posted. if you want to brawl me (my yoshi is hungry for combat! fresh meat!) add me on your wii. it's a good way to keep in touch
 

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Oi, it took a while, but I found and organized ITPs answers. Here :)

Question:

How did ivysaurs Up B work exactly? like, did the vines catapault him upwards or something?
Answer:
No, it grabs the edge, it's a tether recovery and it's pretty quick. On the ground, Up B is a whip, it does a splash sound effect, and seemed pretty good.
Question:
Is there really no stamina issues with PT? If that's the case, why bother mentioning it in the dojo unless it was a mistranslation.
Answer:
No noticable changes happend, however, there may be a subtle difference.
Questions:
I read that PT disappears on some stages (like the ones that move around, where it'd be impossible for him to exist). If so, where do the pokeballs go / come from when you press down-b? Finally, did you see any other alternative costumes for PT, or alt colors for the Pokes?
Answers:
Pokemon trainer has a red, blue , green, and original GB black & white coustmes. There are invincibility frames when switching Pokemon. I can't really answer the "where is the trainer" question, I only played him once and I was focusing on the pokemon. When he changes, the characters dissapear, it's more like there's nothing to hit, rather than "invincibility" frames. and it there's some lag afterwards, but nothing serious.
Questions:
* How easily did the pokémon get tired? After a few moves?
* Would you say Squirtle, Charizard or Ivysaur was your fav' to play as?
* Isn't it odd to change back and forth pokemon? I know there must be a set order to them, (If it wasn't mentioned on the dojo) But if you wanted to go from say Charizard ot Ivysaur, isn't that annoying?
Answers:
*I don't remember them getting tired at all.
*Charizard was my favourite, cause he always was one of my favourite pokemon too, squirtle was cute and fun. Ivysaur was, meh? Average or so.
*There is a set order, Squirtle-Ivysaur-Charizard. You start out as a random one of them? not sure if there's a way to determine it or not. And changing pokemon is horrible, the Trainer calls back the first pokemon, then throws a second pokeball, which lies there for a second or two, then opens and the pokemon comes out, resulting in a wide gap in which you basically have no character on the screen. It might help in stock matches, in time matches it's awful.
Question:
What are PT's taunts? And what is his Victory pose?
Answers:
I didn't use PT's taunts, you can't really taunt in a 4 player match...
He appears with the last pokemon used, and it even calls you by the name of that pokemon, and not as pokemon trainer. In my match it was fushigisou or whatever ivysaur's JP name is. I'm not sure they say the name, I am sure they show the pokemon and his name.
don't be dissapointed of they'd say "this game's winner is Pokemon Trainer" but show Charizard and the trainer and write Charizard on top of the screen.
Question:
Was Squirtle a really fast or Mario - like character? Did he have good standard and aerials? Of what you've seen and played, ofcourse.
Answer:
Squirtle reminds me more of Jigglypuff than Mario, and yes he was pretty fast. But his attacks were pretty weak, I remember killing with his Fsmash before switching though.
Question:
How are Charizard's attacks and specials?
Answer:
I don't remember specifics clearly enough to detail or describe his attacks, but his Up B ownz, his Neutral B sucks, I haven't tried/seen his forward B. I used his Fsmash and Usmash mainly, as well as Fair and Bair. but like I said, I don't recall well enough to describe, I've only played him once.
 

Dry Bones

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im thinking me and gerudo warrior are going to have to wait forever to get to play as Pokemon Trainer... man, it sucks being in Australia with no release date... =(

edit: wow, awesome work IsmaR =)
 

Gerudo Warrior

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you won the prize of epic win.

this FAQ hit jack pot!

EDIT - will will get it soon. but yeah..... it does suck like that but....... we got the harbor bridge! good to see an Aussie. i will vs you if you have Wifi.
 

Dry Bones

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haha yeah, the americans may get brawl first, but we at least have "mate" and the opera house!

i added your number, and uploaded mine to my profile =)
 

Pinoy

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thanks for the update, it answered a lot of my questions. Now i can go brag to kids at school how PT is gonna pwn everyone's @$$
 

Butters333

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I am just glad they have made such a unique character. MOST of the characters in the game have the same style give or take. Some of the ones that stood out already would be:

Mewtwo
Ness
Ice Climbers

These characters from Melee were def. not for beginners because of their unique abilities. Although once mastered they pwn hard. That's why I am looking forward to Olimar and P. Trainer. I hope they reveal another character along these lines, although it would be hard to get as unique as Olimar. Almost everyone I know is bashing him but I think it'll be sweet, plus it'll give more recognition to the Pikimin franchise.
 

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Awesome FAQ. Very well organized. Alot of good info in here. Pokémon Trainer is the character I will probably main. Especially since I heard Mewtwo may be out, Fox is a bit different and I dunno about jiggs. Plus I am a huge Pokémon fan.

Very well done.

I just wish they allowed people to take videos. I wanted to see the Pokémon in action.
 

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Woot, this is a great FAQ, glad to finally get info on Squirtle, and Im also glad theres no stamina thing, or not a noticable one. I'll be seconding PT, and most likely using Squirtle most.
 

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Question:
Is there really no stamina issues with PT? If that's the case, why bother mentioning it in the dojo unless it was a mistranslation?
Answer:
Maybe he just wanted us to use all 3 of the pokemon instead of just using 1
 

Gerudo Warrior

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thanks for the updates guys! Thanks to the mod who made this a sticky

@Polostick thanks for the contributing but that is opinion. I T.P has talked about stamina in the FAQ
 

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I hope we get more impressions. No Squirt ^B info. . .no Char B> info. Im sure someone used those moves and it should come up sometime soon.
(Plus I would like to know abit more detail on the over all moves, not just most B moves. It's funny. . . one calls Char slow and the other calls him Mid speed.:ohwell:)

And did they mean that theres a BLACK color and a white classic RBY color or just Black and white as one color?
 

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Black and white eh? Thats interesting. Did Charizard look like his shiny form then? And how interesting a black and white squirtle will look..
 

Pkaz01

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Sweet so squirtle isn't as bad as I thought, awesome! Also nice WC3 sig thread creator.
 

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Black and white as one color, I believe.
Ya, but are the POKEMON in B&W or just PT? They where never in B&W for the RBY games. If I remember correctly this is how they really looked. .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pocket_Monsters_Green.png

Im I the only one shocked at the leek of PT info? No one happened to use Chars B> or Squirt's B^. . . No one can remember the colors other than "they looked cool" (oh yeah, Brown Char. . looked cool too). . . no hard info on the stamina stats other than "there doesn't seem to be much of a effect and you can main one if you want" (What "effect" does it not have much of?).

Really, I would think this would be the char of focus but it seems like people just glance over him. We don't even know their smash attacks or tilts. . .just that "Char used his claws and tail/ Ivy used his body". I expected alot more from this. . .I guess we need Gimpy at every event. (-_-)
 

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Ya, but are the POKEMON in B&W or just PT? They where never in B&W for the RBY games. If I remember correctly this is how they really looked. .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pocket_Monsters_Green.png

Im I the only one shocked at the leek of PT info? No one happened to use Chars B> or Squirt's B^. . . No one can remember the colors other than "they looked cool" (oh yeah, Brown Char. . looked cool too). . . no hard info on the stamina stats other than "there doesn't seem to be much of a effect and you can main one if you want" (What "effect" does it not have much of?).

Really, I would think this would be the char of focus but it seems like people just glance over him. We don't even know their smash attacks or tilts. . .just that "Char used his claws and tail/ Ivy used his body". I expected alot more from this. . .I guess we need Gimpy at every event. (-_-)
XD Yeah. But hey, at least we got a lot more info then we had.

Black and white eh? Thats interesting. Did Charizard look like his shiny form then? And how interesting a black and white squirtle will look..
Brawl Central had a report of a Dark Charizard, so maybe.
 

blubomber17

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-_- We've established that...

****, a whole other month. This blows. At least we'll get some solid info in a week or two...
 

MysticKenji

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From Curbside_Prophet in the WHobby thread:

I don't mind at all if you repost this stuff. Feel free

Squirtle

B:water gun basic range attack chargeable not much else at this time

B> :withdraw very useful attack. allot like yoshis B > but ether squirtle cant be knocked out of it of he’s to short to hit for anyone to really hit him cuts right thru people had better control that yoshis


B^ : waterfall ok attack didn’t use it much. Thought I saw someone angle it down but I'm not completely sure

Has good air control.seems like he could have a decent air game in my opinion

moves quickly at least as fast as young link

A V smash :looked like he made a kinda water splash to ether side of him.

A > smash: withdraw into shell and lunged forward

squirtle was a fun character to use I had heard he wasn’t too good so I was worried I think off the bat
He seems like the lest useful but I think once you get his attacks down he could be a good control type character
also.his double jump is a little cartwheel and it looks like he’s some kind of awesome ninja.


Ivasaure

B: bullet seed will stop characters in the air in there tracks goes about the height of a link and a half

B > :razor leaf an average range attack doesn’t seem to go to far seemed less than links boomerang
one large leaf comes out .didn’t get to see if you could shoot them rapidly.still if you hoping for
Something resembling the razor leaf from the game boy games you’ll be disappointed

B ^ :vine whip on the ground it gives a quick continues whip goes for stunning opponents I had some trouble
Using it to recover if you in range (somewhere between young link and links hookshot) you move very
Quickly to the ledge but I haven’t found any other good moves if you to far away also could have
Problems with edgegarders

A: he kinda spins his leafy parts back and forth I saw that the longer you do it the longer the leafs get
I didn’t do it myself so I don’t know whether you hold A or tap it provides good cover for his sides

A > smash: he grabs the ground and pulls back like a slingshot the he’s shoots
Forward about the distance or pikachus smash
And gets pulled back to his starting position. His down smash looked similar

ivasuar is the middle ground of the three.very dependable I often found myself going back to him
His a attack consist mostly of leaf attacks head butts and other thing like that he’s seemed to get
Used just as much as charizard



charizard
B: flame thrower seem to work exactly like bowsers good for stopping attacks come from the front

B > : rock smash he picks up a rock and instantly head butts it didn’t really notice the damage it did
But it has decent knock back I used a few well timed ones to get Meta knight to back off.

B ^ : fly the attack looked more like the fire fox than fly charizard is engulfed in flames and he shoots off
Into the air it didn’t go to far maybe as far a Mario’s up B when he dose not connect maybe a little less.it doesn’t
have a charge up like firefox not sure if it caught people on fir but I think it did.

I counted at least three jumps didn’t get a chance to glide.didnt really need to the jumps and fly always got me back

A V : tail sweep slight knock up similar to mewtwo

A > smash: a head butt I didn’t connect with anyone so I’m not sure how good it is



charizard was my least used of the three .but I’m not big on heavy charactors.he seemed to win allot thought
I wish I had more time with him.
 

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argh, you beat me to it MysticKenji =)

still, exciting news hum? so far, it seems to me that Ivysaur looks the most promising out of the three, with hot competition from the zard
 

MysticKenji

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Yep ^_^

About swtiching and stamina:
I actually tried rapidly switching pokemon but it didnt seem to effect much perhaps i didnt do it enough .i didnt try not switching though also i saw no stamina bar I make a note to give it a shot again if the booth is there tomorrow.
PT in general:
* note some of my pokemon info got cut off Ill work on retyping it

All I just got back from whobby (long train ride below is all the info i gathered I only ogt to play 3 times (2 rounds each time) I put down some fact i found and uder that my impression

P.trainer

he will move to defult spot with his pokemon aka if there on the right side of the screen he will run to the right and so on

his victory/lost pose is with the last pokemon he used

his finale smash is pretty effective i got a nuber of ko's with it

finale smash can be done in mid air

as far as I saw he is on every stage including delphone plaza note he is not visible when stages move but he will always show up when they stop ie whenver they stoped at the


all in all I liked p.trainer he has a good spread of talent in his corner will defenatly be using him
 
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