Pokedex Entry 4: Marth

[Toby.]

Typh/Magik Care to elaborate? Marth out ranges everything except bair, deals more damage than ivy at max range and can DS out of a lot of our stuff.

I'd like ivy to be as good as charizard here but i just cant see it

Edit: steeler beat me to it.

 

[Adriel]

Squartle is not useless against Marth on stages like Battlefield; just gotta control the stage and he's a little bit more than useless.

But I agree that this is one of Pokemon Trainer's hardest match-ups.

 

[Steeler]

does squirtle land on the bf platforms after an air release?

 

[adumbrodeus]

ivysaur vs. marth is actually really good for ivysaur

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.

approaching razor leaf *****

*jab walks*

WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?!

and you can bullet seed out of most/all of his "combos"

What Combos, Marth beats you with spacing and the fact that you either telegraph or are very punishable on every move.

and you can edgeguard him reaaaaally well with up-b tricks

On the other hand...

*hangs on to ledge and watches as ivysaur vainly tries to up-b onto the ledge*



PS I'm sorry, in a bit of a silly mood right now.

 

[Adriel]

does squirtle land on the bf platforms after an air release?

yes.

10poketrainers

 

[Darknid]

Well I guess I was wrong, I thought Charizard outranged marth. I'm so used to Marth just being an average threat from facing DK but I imagine it's a nightmare when you don't outrange him, I thought Zard did and that's why I thought Zard had an advantage.

 

[Magik0722]

Well here was my match from the last tournament i went to, tell me what you think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnKHzDT08X8&feature=channel_page

 

[Canvasofgrey]

There was a lot of rolling on Ivysaur. Kind of sucks that IVysaur's roll isn't good.

Otherwise nice spacing on Bair and good chain on Bulletseeds around the end.

 

[Toby.]

The marth player wasn't very familiar with how to edguard ivysaur. It made it appear as though he didn't have much experiene with the matchup. I'll watch it again anyways.

 

[Magik0722]

Well alot of people dont know the PT matchup, which is the reason i main him

 

[Phiddlesticks]

Well alot of people dont know the PT matchup, which is the reason i main him

I thought the reason you mained Pokemon Trainer was so that you could demonstrate your mastery of Ivysaur's moveset, including your elegant use of Bullet Seed, Razor Leaf, bair, and uh... Bullet Seed.

This post was brought to you by Phiddle "What do you mean I need to post videos to back up my claims?" sticks

 

[Toby.]

Well alot of people dont know the PT matchup, which is the reason i main him

Yes but my point was that it doesn't make sense to claim that Ivy does well vs marth, with the proof being a vid of a person who didn't know the matchup. You probably have valid reasons for your position, but pointing out that few people know how to fight PT doesn't really make the matchup magically better

 

[Retro Gaming]

This is how I feel about Marth:

Charizard and Ivysaur are both at a disadvantage. I feel that Ivysaur does better versus Marths that like to use a lot of Fair and other aerials, and that Charizard does better versus Marths who prefer Dancing Blade and Dtilt.

I still think Squirtle has little to no chance versus Marth.

 

[Steeler]

i think squirtle would be great

without the grab release -o-

 

[Fearmy]

Fair has a nice hitbox, actually it'll make it nearly impossible to approach marth with air game with squirtle out.