PM Arts and Alts Thread

[TimeSmash]

I wonder if it'd be infringing on Smash 4 if we colored Poke Balls differently, making them look like Ultra and Great Balls as well as Master Balls (Smash 4 risk) and other random balls like the Net Ball and infamous GS ball. To differentiate them from how Smash 4 is, it would just be a simple recolor/random assignment and not related to the actual Pokemon inside. It would be hilarious to see a Goldeen come out f a Master Ball anyways hahah

 

[Shin F.]

If it's even possible to have the textures be random, it's probably not worth the effort it would take to code it.

 

[TimeSmash]

True true, it's a smaller graphical thing as well so it's not like I would be torn about it. It's something that would be neat to be in, but if it's a hassle to code I'd be fine with it being put off or not at all.

Items having different graphics altogether is an interesting concept, however. While again a lower priority, it would make PM stand out more as its own game. Take for example how the Ray Gun has changed throughout the series

http://i.imgur.com/BqZVVd2.jpg

While in Melee it recevied more of a simple raphical update rather than aesthetic changes, when it to brawl and 4 however it changed drastically. It'd be great to see PM items have their own unique graphics, but again, it's a smaller and probably more taxing detail

 

[Nefnoj]

Man, why hasn't somebody made an eagle recolor for Falco yet? Or even a hawk recolor?

Y'know what, I think it'd be way cooler if Falco's feathers were of a similar color as his clothes for the Brawl alts.

White feathers for his blue alt, brown for his red, green for green, and maybe a dark-ish yellow for his classic recolor.

Kind of like - you know, like for every other anthropomorphic animal in the game.

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

I wonder if it'd be infringing on Smash 4 if we colored Poke Balls differently, making them look like Ultra and Great Balls as well as Master Balls (Smash 4 risk) and other random balls like the Net Ball and infamous GS ball. To differentiate them from how Smash 4 is, it would just be a simple recolor/random assignment and not related to the actual Pokemon inside. It would be hilarious to see a Goldeen come out f a Master Ball anyways hahah

I know several people, including myself, who wasted a Master Ball on some really common Pokemon as a kid.

 

[AceGamer]

I know several people, including myself, who wasted a Master Ball on some really common Pokemon as a kid.

Lol the key to solving that problem is to take a sec before selecting a ball so you don't waste your master ball. If you accidentally use it just turn off the game and hope you saved recently XD

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

Lol the key to solving that problem is to take a sec before selecting a ball so you don't waste your master ball. If you accidentally use it just turn off the game and hope you saved recently XD

I meant that we were dumb when we were kids and thought that common Pokemon were rare. A friend of mine used one on a sandshrew since he thought it was rare and it was his favorite, then he ran into like 10 more of them.

 

[Shin F.]

I meant that we were dumb when we were kids and thought that common Pokemon were rare. A friend of mine used one on a sandshrew since he thought it was rare and it was his favorite, then he ran into like 10 more of them.

I used it because I figured I'd be able to buy more at some point. I'd never looked online at any guides or anything and it was my very first time playing. Since they said the Master Ball was a prototype of a new invention, I figured it'd be in stores soon. xD Granted, it was Moltres I used it on so it wasn't a total waste, lol.

 

[CBO0tz]

Kind of like - you know, like for every other anthropomorphic animal in the game.

? I don't get what you mean, Fox only has 1 recolor that changes his fur color.. And I'm pretty sure that it's supposed to be a reference to Wolf..

True true, it's a smaller graphical thing as well so it's not like I would be torn about it. It's something that would be neat to be in, but if it's a hassle to code I'd be fine with it being put off or not at all.

Items having different graphics altogether is an interesting concept, however. While again a lower priority, it would make PM stand out more as its own game. Take for example how the Ray Gun has changed throughout the series

http://i.imgur.com/BqZVVd2.jpg

While in Melee it recevied more of a simple raphical update rather than aesthetic changes, when it to brawl and 4 however it changed drastically. It'd be great to see PM items have their own unique graphics, but again, it's a smaller and probably more taxing detail

I think a graphical update of the Melee Ray gun would be cool.
EDIT: Actually

Either of these would make for really cool original PM Rayguns. Only problem is the rays probably won't be the same size as the gun itself.
And wouldn't making shiny Pokes just be a matter of adding a new Pokemon to the list that can come out of a Pokeball?

 

[Nefnoj]

I know several people, including myself, who wasted a Master Ball on some really common Pokemon as a kid.

Yup. Don't even know why. As I'm currently playing Omega Ruby, I'm still saving it... That first shiny I find someday will be worth it.

? I don't get what you mean, Fox only has 1 recolor that changes his fur color.. And I'm pretty sure that it's supposed to be a reference to Wolf..

Oh weird, I thought Fox had more. I wasn't only referencing wolf, I also had in mind the Pokémon, specifically Pikachu, with his hat and skin colour changes.

 

[Sour Supreme]

Expect a cleaned up OP soon.

 

[GFooChombey]

I didn't realize how much I wanted this..

Edit: It also needs to make this sound when it's fired.

 

[Draco_The]

That would be very cool. We already have the SNES Super Scope after all.

That first shiny I find someday will be worth it.

Golbat and Pokérus in Emerald, electric dog thing from gen IV in Pearl through the use of the Pokéradar, Weedle (and the obvious Gyarados) in Soulsilver and a steel bug thing in Black 2

 

[TimeSmash]

Super Scope would be awesome!! It's also a candidate for that differently colored items thing

It makes me think what if we had more new items altogether?

 

[Nefnoj]

Super Scope would be awesome!! It's also a candidate for that differently colored items thing

It makes me think what if we had more new items altogether?

Parasol. Only.

Maybe red shell.

 

[TimeSmash]

I MEAN ZAPPER GUN NOT SUPER SCOPE

Nefnoj don't lie we know you want a Yellow Shell

 

[Nefnoj]

I MEAN ZAPPER GUN NOT SUPER SCOPE

Nefnoj don't lie we know you want a Yellow Shell

Hush. It's a secret to everybody.

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

I used it because I figured I'd be able to buy more at some point. I'd never looked online at any guides or anything and it was my very first time playing. Since they said the Master Ball was a prototype of a new invention, I figured it'd be in stores soon. xD Granted, it was Moltres I used it on so it wasn't a total waste, lol.

The internet wasn't much of a thing when I first played. At least nobody I knew had access to it.

Anyway, speaking of Pokemon, does anyone have any costume ideas for Jigglypuff? I never really see anyone talk about her, but that's probably because a lack of options. At most I've seen people ask for the headband from Melee if they can get it to work.

 

[AceGamer]

Lol nope not really, Puff hasn't had many different looks and has never had a trainer so we don't imagine it wearing any of the accessories the trainers had like Pikachu. Plus it's body shape isn't helping either X)

 

[Aura Guardian]

Assuming this place is still active and taking request. . .

Pikachu (This obviously needs to happen)-

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[Nefnoj]

Assuming this place is still active and taking request. . .

Pikachu (This obviously needs to happen)-

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Bro! Where've you been? Already a thing, go play Project M right now:

 

[Sour Supreme]

Assuming this place is still active and taking request. . .

Pikachu (This obviously needs to happen)-

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This isn't really a request thread.
It's just a place that we throw down ideas and possibilities for Alts, nothing is guaranteed.

 

[Shin F.]

The internet wasn't much of a thing when I first played. At least nobody I knew had access to it.

Anyway, speaking of Pokemon, does anyone have any costume ideas for Jigglypuff? I never really see anyone talk about her, but that's probably because a lack of options. At most I've seen people ask for the headband from Melee if they can get it to work.

The only suggestions I've seen given have just been new possible hats for her. Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny are my favorite suggestions.

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

The only suggestions I've seen given have just been new possible hats for her. Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny are my favorite suggestions.

I actually really like those ideas. I also just remembered the ancient Jiggs from the anime which could make a good palette swap.

Also, Pikachu needs some of his costumes from ORAS. Preferably the masked Pikachu.

 

[Shin F.]

I actually really like those ideas. I also just remembered the ancient Jiggs from the anime which could make a good palette swap.

Also, Pikachu needs some of his costumes from ORAS. Preferably the masked Pikachu.

Oh, right, Bigglypuff. That was suggested as well.

It's been a while since the suggestion list has been reposted. Even though it's in the OP, it might be a good idea to refresh our minds on what's already there.

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Mario -
- Already full on costumes, not getting any more.
- 3 Costume Slots left - Dr. Luigi, Dreamy Luigi, Dealer Luigi, Silver Luigi, Parade Luigi, Mario Party 2 Costumes (Pirate, Cowboy, Astronaut, Wizard Explorer)
- 2 Costume Slots left - Nurse Peach (with extended dress for hitboxes), SMB1 Peach / Retro Peach, Pauline Recolor, Melee Dress Style, Melee Daisy Alt, Sunshine Peach, Explorer Peach, Super Princess Peach, False Peach
- 3 Costume Slots left - Dark Bowser, Strikers Bowser, Wedding Bowser, Bowletta, SMB1 Box Art Bowser, King Koopa (Super Show), Meowser

Donkey Kong -
- 1 Costume Slot left - Funky Kong Cosplay, Strikers DK, Strikers Charged DK, Donkey Kong Jr. (Grown Up), Swanky Kong Cosplay, Rambi Glitch DK, Real Gorilla Colors, DK64 Recolors
- 4 Costume Slots left - Strikers Diddy, DK Jr's Clothes, Kiddy's Cosplay, Funky Kong Cosplay, Lanky Kong Cosplay, DK64 Recolors, Timber Cosplay

Yoshi -
- Already full on costumes, not getting any more.

Wario Ware -
- Already full on costumes, not getting any more.

Legend of Zelda -
- Now full on costumes, not getting any more.
- 3 Costume Slots left - OoT / Melee, SS, ALttP 1, ALttP 2 (cape bound to hair / dress bones), Four Swords Costume (Just the clothes/ hair), Puppet Zelda
- 3 Costume Slots left - OoT / Melee, Impa Cosplay, ALttP-inspired, Four Swords-inspired, Puppet Sheik, Hyrule Warriors Shiek
- Now full on costumes, not getting any more.
- 1 Costume Slot left - Classic Link, ALttP Link recolors, Conductor Link, Young Link's Clothes, Bunny Link, Minish Cap Tink

Metroid -
- 1 Costume Slot left - UAM 1 / Omega Suit, MP2 Samus + Recolors, true Fusion Suit, true Dark Suit, true Gravity Suit, Phazon Suit, Light Suit, PED Suit, Corrupted PED Suit, Dark Samus cosplay, Power Suit, Other M Samus, Unmasked Samus
- 1 Costume Slot left - Zero Mission Ending (Pic 2), Super Metroid Ending, Metroid Fusion Ending, Civvies, Military Suit, Justin Bailey, 'Corrupted' Samus, Classic ZSS, SJS ZSS, Classic ZSS, Justin Bailey

Retro -
- 3 Costume Slots left - Sacred Treasures, Classic/Melee Pit, Kid Icarus Uprising Fighter Armor
- 3 Costume Slots left - Real Ice Climbers, Hoods Down, Summertime Ice Climbers, Autumn Ice Climbers, Spring Ice Climbers, Classic Ice Climbers, Double Popo and Double Nana, Anime Ice Climbers, "Animal Pelt Climbers"
- 3 Costume Slots left - SNES ROB, Gamecube ROB, Wii ROB, N64 ROB, DS ROB, Nav-Com Cosplay (StarTropics), Atomic Purple recolor (Pic 2), Chibi-Robo Parts / Cosplay, Giga-Robo Parts / Cosplay
- 1 Costume Slot left - Orange, Purple, White, Silver, Gold, and other recolors, Chef G&W

Kirby -
- 2 Costume Slots left - Grape, Charcoal, Orange, Snow... just recolors in general. Dark Matter recolor, Yarn Recolor
- 2 Costume Slots left - Quickdraw Meta Knight, Meta Knight unmasked, Super Star Ultra Meta Knight (different hat? someone find this.), NES Meta Knight, Draw Meta Knight, Dark Meta Knight Cosplay, Galacta Knight Cosplay, 20th Anniversary Meta Knight
- 1 Costume Slot left - Quickdraw Dedede, Penguin colored, Masked Dedede, Classic Dedede, Draw Dedede, ToyDedede (Kirby's Toybox), Ninja Dojo Dedede, 20th Anniversary Dedede

Pikmin -
- 2 Costume Slots left - Alph, Brittany and Charlie-like recolors, Bad Ending Pikmin Olimar, Olimar's Son Cosplay

Star Fox -
- Already full on costumes, not getting any more.
- Already full on costumes, not getting any more.
- Now full on costumes, not getting any more.

F-Zero -
- 2 Costume Slots left - Classic Captain Falcon, Pikmin Suit, Famicom Disguise, Super Falcon Suit, GX Captain Falcon, Space Hunter Drake Redcrest Cosplay, Unmasked C. Falcon

Pokemon -
- 3 Costume Slots left - Christmas Hat, Sparky Hair, Classic Shiny Pikachu, Raichu recolor, Team Rocket Hat, Pichu Backpack, Melee Fedora, Ninja Mask, Red Orb Pikachu, Blue Orb Pikachu, Female Pikachu, Yellow's Hat, Ethan's Hat, Japan Mascot, Maid, Alpha Sapphire/Omega Ruby Costumes (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
- 2 Costume Slots left - Clone Squirtle, Fire Fighter, Sailor Squirtle
- 3 Costume Slots left - Clone Ivysaur (Based on Clone Venusaur or Clone Bulbasaur)
- 3 Costume Slots left - Clone Charizard, Dragonite colored, Dry Charizard, Gen II Shiny Charizard, Armored Charizard
- 2 Costume Slots left - Sir Aaron's Clothes (Possibly with cape bound to dreads, or without the cape if that doesn't work), Lucaryu, Evil Lucario (PM Unlocked image seems to be gone?)
- 2 Costume Slots left - Shiny Mewtwo in Armor, Pokemon Adventures Mewtwo, Shadow Mewtwo, Original Orange Mewtwo
- 3 Costume Slots left - Christmas Hat, Nurse Joy Hat, Officer Jenny Hat, El Globo, Bigglypuff, Classic Red/Blue Jigglypuff

Spoiler: Any Pokemon

Not doing images for these right now. Far too many. Maybe some other time.

-Other PC's hats, colored to match their game's title
-Costumes based on other Pokémon
-Colosseum accessories
-GBC's monochrome style

NPC Hats:
-Villainous Teams hats
-Elesa's ear-things
-DJ Mary's headphones and glasses
-Lanette's glasses and bandanna. Iris's crown
-Kimono Sisters' obi and kanzashi
-Blaine's tie and shades (and 'stache)
-Surge's shades and tags
-Lorelei's opaque glasses
-Will's mask
-Riley's hat
-Marley's bow and collar
-One of Bianca's crazy hats
-Winona's helmet
-Maylene's bandages and gloves
-Crasher Wake's mask
-Lenora's headband
-Skyla's propeller
-Caitlin's Gen 4 ribbons
-Double the flowers on jigglypuff's costume so it more resemble Phoebe's
-Conquest's PC's' crazy horn-crowns
-Plenty of basic trainer classes

Fire Emblem -
- Now full on Costumes, not getting any more.
- 3 Costume Slots left - Awakening Roy (Pic 2), Eliwood recolor, Rutger Cosplay, Perceval Cosplay, Leif Cosplay
- Now full on Costumes, not getting any more.
Earthbound -
- Now full on Costumes, not getting any more.
- 3 Costume Slots left - DCMC shirt, Pajamas Lucas, Kumatora Recolor, Duster's clothes / recolor, Project M shirt, Mike Jones recolor (Pic 2), Pigmask Army Uniform

Third Party -
- 3 Costume Slots left - Big Boss / Naked Snake, Old Snake, Liquid Snake, Tuxedo Snake, Twin Snakes Solid Snake
- 2 Costume Slots left - Silver-Colored Sonic, Orange-Colored Sonic, Monochrome Sonic, Legacy Sonic, Excalibur Sonic, Sonic Boom Sonic, Riders Sonic, Sonic Riders Concept Art, Darkspine Sonic, Link Sonic, Soap Shoes, Sonic Rivals Bonus Race Suits, Santa Sonic, Jack-O-Lantern Sonic, SA2 Phantasy Star themed Suit, Alternate Phantasy Star Suit, Zonic the Zone Cop, Archie's Evil Sonic, Evil Sonic / Scourge (Pre-Master Emerald), Scourge, Stealth the Hedgehog (Spider-Man Sonic), Sonik (Super Hero Sonic), Roboticized Sonic, Sonic Simulator Robot, Gear's Apparel (World War Blue inspired Sonic outfit), Prelate Sonic (Based on Archie's Prelate concept).

Costumes which can or will not be done according to PMBR:
- Draw Kirby, Quickdraw Kirby, and anything else that will interfere with his hats.
- Mega Charizard X, Mega Charizard Y
- Mega Lucario
- Mega Mewtwo X, Mega Mewtwo Y
- Classic Sonic
-Excite Bike Jumpsuit
-Melee Focus Sash

Already full on costumes, not getting any more.

Spoiler: Old Suggestions

- Pirate Yoshi, Brown Yoshi,
- Adventure Wario (WL1 and VBWL), Dragon Wario, Jet Wario (WL1), Eagle Wario (VBWL), Bull Wario (WL1, works as a black alt.), Vampire Wario (WL3), Wicked Wario (MoD), Zombie Wario (WL2,3,4)
- SS, SS Manga Link, Hyrule Warriors Link, NES Art Link, Hero's Shade (either as a skeleton or as OoT Link wearing his armor), ALttP Link, Magic Armor, Zora Armor, Ordon Link, Wrestler Link, Classic Link, HW Soldier Link
- OoT / Melee, OoT3D, Wind Waker Recolor, Oracles Concept Art, Phantom Ganon
- Pirate Wolf recolors, Leon Cosplay
- Awakening Marth, Classic (Pantless) Marth, Shadow Dragon Marth, Mystery of the Emblem Marth, Great Lord Lucina Cosplay, Lucina Mask, Alm Recolor
- Lord Ike (Pic 2), Vanguard Ike (Pic 2), Hero Ike (Pic 2), Awakening Ike
- Robot Ness, Jeff's school uniform, Poo's martial arts gi, Ninten's clothes (Pic 2, Pic 3, Pic 4), Ghost Ness, Project M shirt

 

[TimeSmash]

Hmmmm, for Kirby, you could have what he looks like in the Rainbow Curse:

Goggles Kirby might be a possibility since it's not a hat per se and is more in the center of his body

Lastly, this could be an alt as well, but might be deemed to simple and possibly require havoc bones for... (Kirby Crystal Shards spoilers)

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the crystal

I supposed you could try to make his face more N64 like

 

[Draco_The]

Hats like R.O.B.'s or Samus' make it impossible to add any kind of accessory without having very obvious clipping issues, and things like Dreamland 3 crayon Kirby or the one you suggested are too similar to the default one.

 

[TimeSmash]

Hats like R.O.B.'s or Samus' make it impossible to add any kind of accessory without having very obvious clipping issues, and things like Dreamland 3 crayon Kirby or the one you suggested are too similar to the default one.

**** I didn't even think of them gahhh.

I mean Crayon Kirby might be different enough if done right because the textue is really clay-like and not as smooth as defauly Kirby. As a result, the eyes and little pink marks make his face look somewhat different as well.

Kirby does have really limitied options besides recolors, so I'd love to see something that just wasn't that, though it is quite difficult

Edit: WOW typos. Soz

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

I don't think we'll be seeing anything aside from palettes for Kirby. Someone mad a pretty cool yarn Kirby palette, and I'd love to see something similar in PM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDi-1yV992Y

 

[Shin F.]

I don't think we'll be seeing anything aside from palettes for Kirby. Someone mad a pretty cool yarn Kirby palette, and I'd love to see something similar in PM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDi-1yV992Y

I had an idea while back for Yarn Kirby. What if they made the majority of his textures transparent, and then used the same technique as Rim Lighting uses to give his model a Yarn texture that goes around his edges? If it works, it could make him actually look like he does in Kirby's Epic Yarn.

They already basically did it in the one you posted a video of, except they made it so his body has the texture from his art instead.

Of course, now that I think about it, that might make for poor visibility in a match.

 

[TimeSmash]

I just saw that Yarn Kirby on the Vault and it looks pretty well done. I just wonder what it would look like in hats because I only skimmed the video.

I guess visiblity would be stage dependent. I could see issues on the retextured Sunshine Hidden Stage.

CAN WE HAVE 3.6 ALREADY PLOX

 

[Shin F.]

I'd still like to see a modernized version of Ice Climbers like what Pit got for Brawl.

In fact, I'd like to see it so much, I figured I'd just do it myself.

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Based on:

Although I'd really love to see PMDT's take on the idea.

 

[Sour Supreme]

I'd still like to see a modernized version of Ice Climbers like what Pit got for Brawl.

In fact, I'd like to see it so much, I figured I'd just do it myself.

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Although I'd really love to see PMDT's take on the idea.

Of course I've already seen it, but once again, it's great Shin.

 

[CBO0tz]

I'd still like to see a modernized version of Ice Climbers like what Pit got for Brawl.

In fact, I'd like to see it so much, I figured I'd just do it myself.

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Although I'd really love to see PMDT's take on the idea.

That's brilliant

 

[arcticfox8]

That's brilliant

you decided to edit as soon as I went to quote
so i'll let you go
this time

shin is p great 10/10

 

[CBO0tz]

you decided to edit as soon as I went to quote
so i'll let you go
this time

shin is p great 10/10

You'll never catch me and my cynical comments

 

[Nefnoj]

This.

I'd still like to see a modernized version of Ice Climbers like what Pit got for Brawl.

In fact, I'd like to see it so much, I figured I'd just do it myself.

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Although I'd really love to see PMDT's take on the idea.

Just... Beautiful.

I think they might be a bit too similar to the standard costume in terms of colour though. You might want to change the fur shade/design or hammer or something.
I still want this though in addition to that... Three slots left, plenty of room for all!

What if Popo had the Condor,
while Nana had the Nitpicker?

And Popo could have the Seal Topi,
and Nana could have the Yeti Topi!

You'll never catch me and my cynical comments

Pst, what was it, CBO0tz ?

 

[CBO0tz]

This.

Just... Beautiful.

I think they might be a bit too similar to the standard costume in terms of colour though. You might want to change the fur shade/design or hammer or something.
I still want this though in addition to that... Three slots left, plenty of room for all!


Pst, what was it, CBO0tz ?

I thought that while the outfit was cool as hell, it would still seem kinda silly since IC's carry giant wooden mallets, but I guess I can't really complain about that.. They have to carry around those hammers as it's like their trademark.

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

That Dr.Mario thing with additional mega vitamins and the new sound is pretty cool. It would be one of those nice small touches.

 

[Shin F.]

I think they might be a bit too similar to the standard costume in terms of colour though. You might want to change the fur shade/design or hammer or something.

They're still meant to be, well, them. Just a slightly fancier them. Can't mess the iconic bits too much. It works if you're revamping their entire costume like with Bear Climbers, but I'm just making them look a bit more complex rather than completely revamping their everything. Kinda like a Brawl Link / Melee Link thing. For Ice Climbers, the colors are a part of their identity, just like how Pit's main colors were still white, gold and brown even after his Brawl upgrade.

That said, I'll be doing recolors, including a set meant to look like their NES colors, so there's that. I might make some fancier hammers if I can come up with a good idea for them, but they have to be the same size as the original still.

Edit: In case anyone wants a comparison. Even with the same color and hammer, they seem distinct enough to me. Maybe I'll make the shoulder pads darker or something to make them stand out more. Maybe a blue stripe down the center of the hammer could work.

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