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There are English hacks for most, if not all of them, by this point. I'm working my way through Roy's title at the moment.
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My suggestions:Wat is poopularity
Edit: Ninja-corrected
We can try to compile them. We can start with the ones I put in my post a while back. I took off the ones that were said to be implausible (like Nurse and Sports Peach) because on unmatching hitboxes / hurtboxes as well as Team Recolors.
Luigi: Dr. Luigi
Bowser: Dark Bowser, Strikers Bowser, Wedding Bowser
Donkey Kong: Funky Kong's clothes, Strikers DK
Diddy Kong: Strikers Diddy, DK Jr's clothes
Link - First Link (SS Manga, red scarf), Hyrule Warriors Link
Zelda - OoT, SS
Sheik - OoT, SS
Ganondorf - OoT
Toon Link - ALttP Link / Classic Link
Samus - UAM 1, MP2 recolors, true Fusion Suit, true Dark Suit, true Gravity Suit, Phazon Suit, Light Suit, PED Suit, Dark Samus cosplay
ZSS - Zero Mission Ending, Civvies, Military Suit, Justin Bailey, 'Corrupted' Samus
Pit - Sacred Treasures, Classic Pit
Ice Climbers - Real Ice Climbers, Hoods Down
ROB - SNES ROB, Gamecube ROB, Wii ROB
Kirby - Grape, Charcoal, Orange, Snow... just recolors in general.
Meta Knight - Quickdraw Meta Knight, Galacta Knight cosplay, Meta Knight unmasked
King Dedede - Penguin colored, Masked Dedede
Olimar - Alph, brittany and Charlie-like recolors
Captain Falcon - Classic Captain Falcon
Pikachu - Christmas Hat, Sparky Hair, Shiny Pikachu, Raichu recolor, Team Rocket Hat
Ivysaur - Bulbasaur
Charizard - Ridley colored, Dragonite colored, Dry Charizard
Lucario - Sir Aaron's Clothes, Lucaryu
Mewtwo - Cloaked Mewtwo, Shiny Mewtwo in Armor, Shiny Mewtwo in cloak
Jigglypuff - Christmas Hat, Nurse Joy Hat, Officer Jenny Hat
Marth - Smash 4 Marth, Awakening Marth
Ike - TOO MANY IKES, Vanguard Ike is the one I remember most.
Roy - Awakening Roy, Eliwood recolor
Ness - Robot Ness, Jeff's school uniform, Poo's martial arts gi, Ninten's clothes
Lucas - DCMC shirt
Mr. Game and Watch - Orange, Purple, White, Silver, Gold, and other recolors
Snake - Big Boss, Naked Snake
Sonic - Golden Sonic, Silver Sonic, Orange Sonic, Purple Sonic
I'd say Bulbasaur being the same character is debatable. That's like saying Super Sonic isn't actually Sonic. Besides, their builds are the same and the change in size they go through is negligible enough to be ignored for the purposes of the costume, I'd think. Having said that, you're all free to edit this list yourselves. That's why I made it, so that people in the thread can build from it. It's just a base list for us to fine-tune. I'll go ahead and make those changes, though.My suggestions:
Add:
JIggs' Green Focus Sash (Without the extra bones, still possible.)
Charizard - Gen II Shiny
(All PT Pokemon) - "Clones" from First Movie
PIkachu - Melee Fedora, Pichu's Green Melee alt.
Bowser - Meowser, Bowletta
Snake - Old Snake
Helmetless Falcon
Conductor Toon Link
Remove:
Bulbasaur - Not the same character.
Smash 4 Marth
"Cosplay" Galacta Knight
Clearly the size of the character changes, and that the model would have to follow suit. It's not debatable in those terms.I'd say Bulbasaur being the same character is debatable.
*Bulbasaur wins*I'd say Bulbasaur being the same character is debatable. That's like saying Super Sonic isn't actually Sonic. Besides, their builds are the same and the change in size they go through is negligible enough to be ignored for the purposes of the costume, I'd think.
Just in time...Ice Climbers don't need an alt, really.
I feel like a lot of characters don't need alts, just colors.
Ice Climbers, Charizard, Ivysaur, Squirtle, Olimar, Mr. G&W, and Kirby.
Everyone else has reasonable alt concepts that would be better than more colors.
But seriously Ice Climbers with their hoods down?
I'd like them with their hoods down... and Chzrm3 was in support of it, too. In fact, I think he's the one who came up with it.Ice Climbers don't need an alt, really.
I feel like a lot of characters don't need alts, just colors.
Ice Climbers, Charizard, Ivysaur, Squirtle, Olimar, Mr. G&W, and Kirby.
Everyone else has reasonable alt concepts that would be better than more colors.
But seriously Ice Climbers with their hoods down?
Point taken with the name thing.*Bulbasaur wins*
And the winner is...
Ivysaur!
I'll edit it some more.
Added some of the Tocksknock hacks since they're basically confirmed.
Also I added a new idea for Ice Climbers.
Add:Luigi: Dr. Luigi, Dreamy Luigi
Bowser: Dark Bowser, Strikers Bowser, Wedding Bowser, Bowletta, Meowser, SMB1 Box Art Bowser, King Koopa (Super Show)
Donkey Kong: Funky Kong's clothes, Strikers DK
Diddy Kong: Strikers Diddy, DK Jr's clothes, Kiddy's PJs.
Yoshi: Pirate Yoshi
Link - First Link (SS Manga, red scarf), Hyrule Warriors Link, NES Art Link.
Zelda - OoT, SS
Sheik - OoT, SS
Ganondorf - OoT
Toon Link - ALttP Link / Classic Link
Samus - UAM 1, MP2 recolors, true Fusion Suit, true Dark Suit, true Gravity Suit, Phazon Suit, Light Suit, PED Suit, Dark Samus cosplay
ZSS - Zero Mission Ending, Super Metroid Ending, Civvies, Military Suit, Justin Bailey, 'Corrupted' Samus
Pit - Sacred Treasures, Classic/Melee Pit
Ice Climbers - Real Ice Climbers, Hoods Down, Summertime Ice Climbers.
ROB - SNES ROB, Gamecube ROB, Wii ROB, N64 ROB
Kirby - Grape, Charcoal, Orange, Snow... just recolors in general. Quickdraw Kirby.
Meta Knight - Quickdraw Meta Knight, Meta Knight unmasked, Super Star Ultra Meta Knight (different hat? someone find this.)
King Dedede - Quickdraw Dedede, Penguin colored, Masked Dedede, Classic Dedede.
Olimar - Alph, Brittany and Charlie-like recolors
Captain Falcon - Classic Captain Falcon, Pikmin Suit
Pikachu - Christmas Hat, Sparky Hair, Shiny Pikachu, Raichu recolor, Team Rocket Hat
Ivysaur - Ivytwo
Charizard - Ridley colored, Dragonite colored, Dry Charizard, Gen II Shiny Charizard
Lucario - Sir Aaron's Clothes, Lucaryu
Mewtwo - Cloaked Mewtwo, Shiny Mewtwo in Armor, Shiny Mewtwo in cloak
Jigglypuff - Christmas Hat, Nurse Joy Hat, Officer Jenny Hat, Melee Focus Sash, El Globo, Bigglypuff
Marth - Awakening Marth
Ike - Lord Ike, Vanguard Ike
Roy - Awakening Roy, Eliwood recolor
Ness - Robot Ness, Jeff's school uniform, Poo's martial arts gi, Ninten's clothes
Lucas - DCMC shirt
Mr. Game and Watch - Orange, Purple, White, Silver, Gold, and other recolors
Snake - Big Boss, Naked Snake, Old Snake
Sonic - Silver Sonic, Orange Sonic, Purple Sonic, Excalibur Sonic.
Brilliant idea, but the cloak is probably impossible to work with.Add:
Famicom Disguise (for Capt. Falcon)
That's an interesting idea but I don't think it would look very good.OoT Link in Hero's Shade armor (not a skeleton)
Keep the Skeleton.That's an interesting idea but I don't think it would look very good.
Done.Add:
Famicom Disguise (for Capt. Falcon)
NES Meta Knight
Monocrome Sonic (from Sonic the Fighters)
OoT Link in Hero's Shade armor (not a skeleton)
Legacy Sonic
Rename:
Silver Sonic (it makes me think of Sonic 2's penultimate boss, which is also named 'Silver Sonic', even if you're trying to say it's a Silver-the-Hedgehog-colored Sonic)
Shiny Pikachu (its Red slot is supposed to be its modern shiny coloration, I believe you're refering to its classic shiny coloration?)
Remove:
Purple Sonic; it's already in P:M
YES YES YESMeta Knight, King Dedede, and maybe Kirby, if possible, from the Kirby on the Draw sub-game in Kirby Super Star Ultra.
You guys can add to the list yourselvesMeta Knight, King Dedede, and maybe Kirby, if possible, from the Kirby on the Draw sub-game in Kirby Super Star Ultra.
Actually Path of Radiance is Americanized and so is the first game (rather it has a DS remake).PATHOFRADIANCEISTHEBESTTITLE.
I plan to play it eventually, PATHOFRADIANCEISTHEBESTTITLE. although I'd like to start from the first game and work my way up, and... PATHOFRADIANCEISTHEBESTTITLE. well, it's still in Japanese only as far as I'm aware. I don't like playing games out of order. PATHOFRADIANCEISTHEBESTTITLE.
Yeah the first one looks better. Plus, the original in-game Link looked weird because his eyes weren't shaped like in the artwork.It's me or Ganondorf face in OoT 3D looks better than regular OoT/Melee?
OoT 3D Dorf:
Classic OoT/Melee:
Plus, no more ridiculously pointy nose.
Yeah OoT 3D Ganon looks so much better, his forehead looks normal, his whole face looks great, and not weird like Melee Dorf.Yeah the first one looks better. Plus, the original in-game Link looked weird because his eyes weren't shaped like in the artwork.
OoT 3D Link has eyes that make him look like his artwork / Melee Link. I'm sure the PMBR will give Ganon an OoT 3D skin instead of just straight up using Melee's.
I believe that importing 3DS models is not possible yet, but that won't stop the PM guys to give us an outstanding OoT Dorf.Well TBF, Melee Ganondorf was based on spaceworld, rather then OoT. You can see it in the cape/short hair combo and the sword he uses.
But I do agree, I'd like PMBR to import OoT3D Dorf rather then SpaceDorf.
I'm calling him that from now on. LET'S GO SPACEDORF
Some people think that classic sonic would work. If this is supposed to be a list of all the good ones, then at least keep the most popular sonic alt.We forgot to add PM Unlocked's Evil Lucario, so I'mma go ahead and do that. Also added a couple of other ideas. I took off Classic Sonic because their builds don't match up enough to work properly.
Luigi: Dr. Luigi, Dreamy Luigi
Peach: Nurse Peach (with extended dress)
Bowser: Dark Bowser, Strikers Bowser, Wedding Bowser, Bowletta, Meowser, SMB1 Box Art Bowser, King Koopa (Super Show)
Donkey Kong - Funky Kong's Clothes, Strikers DK, Donkey Kong Jr., Swanky Kong's Clothes
Diddy Kong - Strikers Diddy, DK Jr's Clothes, Kiddy's PJs, Funky Kong's Clothes, Lanky Kong's Clothes
Yoshi: Pirate Yoshi, Brown Yoshi
Link - First Link (SS Manga, red scarf), Hyrule Warriors Link, NES Art Link, Hero's Shade (either as a skeleton or as OoT Link wearing his armor)
Zelda - OoT, SS
Sheik - OoT, SS
Ganondorf - OoT, OoT3D
Toon Link - ALttP Link / Classic Link, Conductor Link, Young Link's Clothes
Samus - UAM 1, MP2 recolors, true Fusion Suit, true Dark Suit, true Gravity Suit, Phazon Suit, Light Suit, PED Suit, Dark Samus cosplay
ZSS - Zero Mission Ending, Super Metroid Ending, Civvies, Military Suit, Justin Bailey, 'Corrupted' Samus
Pit - Sacred Treasures, Classic/Melee Pit
Ice Climbers - Real Ice Climbers, Hoods Down, Summertime Ice Climbers, Autumn Ice Climbers, Spring Ice Climbers, Classic Ice Climbers
ROB - SNES ROB, Gamecube ROB, Wii ROB, N64 ROB, DS ROB
Kirby - Grape, Charcoal, Orange, Snow... just recolors in general. Quickdraw Kirby, Draw Kirby
Meta Knight - Quickdraw Meta Knight, Meta Knight unmasked, Super Star Ultra Meta Knight (different hat? someone find this.), NES Meta Knight, Draw Meta Knight, Dark Meta Knight Cosplay, Galactica Knight Cosplay
King Dedede - Quickdraw Dedede, Penguin colored, Masked Dedede, Classic Dedede, Draw Dedede, N64 Dedede, Toy Dedede (Kirby's Toybox)
Olimar - Alph, Brittany and Charlie-like recolors, Bad Ending Pikmin Olimar
Captain Falcon - Classic Captain Falcon, Pikmin Suit, Famicom Disguise, Super Falcon Suit, GX Captain Falcon
Pikachu - Christmas Hat, Sparky Hair, Classic Shiny Pikachu, Raichu recolor, Team Rocket Hat, Pichu Backpack, Melee Fedora, Ninja Mask
Squirtle - Clone Squirtle
Ivysaur - Clone Ivysaur
Charizard - Clone Charizard, Ridley colored, Dragonite colored, Dry Charizard, Gen II Shiny Charizard
Lucario - Sir Aaron's Clothes, Lucaryu, Evil Lucario
Mewtwo - Cloaked Mewtwo, Shiny Mewtwo in Armor, Shiny Mewtwo in cloak
Jigglypuff - Christmas Hat, Nurse Joy Hat, Officer Jenny Hat, Melee Focus Sash, El Globo, Bigglypuff
Marth - Awakening Marth, Classic (Pantless) Marth, Shadow Dragon Marth, Mystery of the Emblem Marth, Great Lord Lucina Cosplay, Lucina Mask
Ike - Lord Ike, Vanguard Ike, Hero Ike, Awakening Ike
Roy - Awakening Roy, Eliwood recolor
Ness - Robot Ness, Jeff's school uniform, Poo's martial arts gi, Ninten's clothes, Ghost Ness
Lucas - DCMC shirt, Pajamas Lucas
Mr. Game and Watch - Orange, Purple, White, Silver, Gold, and other recolors
Snake - Big Boss, Naked Snake, Old Snake, Liquid Snake, Tuxedo Snake
Sonic - Silver-Colored Sonic, Orange-Colored Sonic, Monochrome Sonic, Legacy Sonic, Excalibur Sonic, Race Gear Sonic, Sonic Boom Sonic
It's not just about the alts that are most popular, although that's a part of it, but they also have to be feasible. Classic Sonic's a lot shorter and chubbier than the one in Brawl, so their bones and the build of their bodies don't match up. PMBR already said they won't do things like that. That's why I didn't add Sports Peach, because she doesn't have a dress, and that's also why Nurse Peach specifically says that her dress would be lengthened for the purpose of the costume. We can keep him on, though, if you could think of a way to feasibly make him work without any size mods or bone edits.Some people think that classic sonic would work. If this is supposed to be a list of all the good ones, then at least keep the most popular sonic alt.
I don't want to start a fight but... I disagree. I won't reply to anything else on the subject because there have been too many painful arguments about it already.It's not just about the alts that are most popular, although that's a part of it, but they also have to be feasible. Classic Sonic's a lot shorter and chubbier than the one in Brawl, so their bones and the build of their bodies don't match up. PMBR already said they won't do things like that. That's why I didn't add Sports Peach, because she doesn't have a dress, and that's also why Nurse Peach specifically says that her dress would be lengthened for the purpose of the costume.
Already there.Masked Dedede.
Yeah. Actually, I could imagine him outright wearing clothes styled like Duster's, althoughWe need more Lucas recolors. How about Kumatora and Duster themed Lucas recolors?
I''m pretty sure I mentioned this in the subreddit before, but I'll say it here.Some people think that classic sonic would work. If this is supposed to be a list of all the good ones, then at least keep the most popular sonic alt.
Thanks much for the input, Nanobuds. I hadn't thought of Draw / Quickdraw Kirby's hat interfering with his copy abilities, though I suppose it should have been obvious in hindsight, same with cloaked Mewtwo. I'll update the list to remove them.*reads list*
Quickdraw Kirby won't work, because of the hat getting in the way of the copy abilities n stuff.
Also, cloaked Mewtwo won't work either... we can't add more bones for the cloak, so the cloak will be pretty stiff and awkwardly clip with the tail.
Just some concepts to remember when creating a list.
I''m pretty sure I mentioned this in the subreddit before, but I'll say it here.
Classic Sonic will not work. If we shorten the spines, then there goes the hitbox rule. Also, he's a lot fatter than Brawl Sonic. This will cause MANY animations to clip through the body, which will just be annoying and aesthetically displeasing, as well as affect the hurtboxes a tiny bit.
Also, having them the same height just wouldn't feel right.
Fire Peach is already a throwback to Super Mario Bros. 1 Peach, so it'd be redundant unless you REALLY wanted her to be a redhead.What about a retro recolor for Peach? Like how she looked in Super Mario Bros, with red hair and a white dress. You could alter the design on the dress too, if we're being picky, so you could theoretically have a Melee Peach.
I'm feelin that Melee style dress though, and with that a TRUE Daisy recolor with darker skin, brown hair, flowery designed dress like Melee's, etc.Fire Peach is already a throwback to Super Mario Bros. 1 Peach, so it'd be redundant unless you REALLY wanted her to be a redhead.
Its like when your parents would read your christmas list in November when you were a wee little lad, and start listing off reasons you cant have any of the stuff :C*reads list*
Quickdraw Kirby won't work, because of the hat getting in the way of the copy abilities n stuff.
Also, cloaked Mewtwo won't work either... we can't add more bones for the cloak, so the cloak will be pretty stiff and awkwardly clip with the tail.
Just some concepts to remember when creating a list.
I''m pretty sure I mentioned this in the subreddit before, but I'll say it here.
Classic Sonic will not work. If we shorten the spines, then there goes the hitbox rule. Also, he's a lot fatter than Brawl Sonic. This will cause MANY animations to clip through the body, which will just be annoying and aesthetically displeasing, as well as affect the hurtboxes a tiny bit.
Also, having them the same height just wouldn't feel right.
Thanks much for the input, Nanobuds. I hadn't thought of Draw / Quickdraw Kirby's hat interfering with his copy abilities, though I suppose it should have been obvious in hindsight, same with cloaked Mewtwo. I'll update the list to remove them.
man, what am I, chopped liver?Also guys, Kirby can't have an alt costume because I'm sure it would mess with his hats in weird ways.