PLZ Critique my Falco

[Driz]

I'm a NEWB I understand I'm not looking for flames I'm looking for advice. Plz be harsh but you don't need to tell me I suck because I'm new to serious smash and I already know that. Plz I'm looking for help and I know you guys on the Falco forums are great at that so just asking for the same respect I've tried to give you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v81bDpKt10A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYeHTLJ7LQQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BThSaPVYg4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlMmB0kxY_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkMOQ0G2M-Y

Thanks for any advice you can give me!! Hope to improve my Falco soon!

EDIT :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErT5Fh4EJsc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RjWTWj5reU&mode=related&search=

 

[Artistry]

[just kidding...] You also make good use of wavedashing out of the way to punish the opponent. One thing you should work on is trying to get in the shine to pillar. I didn't see you attempting to shine very much, even when the opportunity was wide open. That's a very big part of Falco's game. Watch some other Falco videos. I think DaShizWiz is a very good Falco to watch; he's very technical. [just kidding] ...and work on pillaring. Try to shffl in your dair a bit more.

When you were edge guarding, you tended to use fsmash. Try using dsmash. It comes out faster and has more priority over the edge. You could also try grabbing the ledge, dropping off and jumping to bair. You did make good use of short hop to dair on the edge of the stage, as well as edgehog to roll.

You should also work a bit on your approach. Don't always try approaching directly. Use mindgames to trick your opponent so that they create an opening for you. You got shield grabbed a lot. Try a shffled dair through their shield to the other side of them so you won't get grabbed, then try to shine them up. If it doesn't work, shffl dair again and shine until it works and pillar! Although that isn't really mindgames, it works. Mindgames would be rushing toward an opponent and wavedashing back, then wavedashing back in after they attack/dodge/etc. to punish. Also, try to do like the Sheik in one of your battles. When you attack and they tech one way, follow their tech and punish by grabbing, shining, smashing, etc.

Out of 10 I give your falco a 6.5. Good work and keep it up.

 

[captainlukey]

hey umm could you upload to goog vids please i cant even watch them... and im looking forward to it....

 

[xelad1]

OMG YOU NOOB THESE VIDEOS ARE TERRIBLE FLAME FLAME FLAME.... now that we have that out of the way:

Personally I actually thought your SHL needed work unline what moo said. I saw you ground laser numerous times and personally I prefer to SHL a LOT more. I'm not saying you have to laser camp but its sooooo **** useful for setups, go back and forth between shl and rshl is a good mindgame for falco too since he doesn't have a very good dash dance game. Your laser approaches were pretty one track minded which is a good way to get punished. Watch how well PC Chris and forward use lasers in their matches I learned a lot from watching them. Also you do need to use your shine more to set up combos like moo said and yeah thats about it......... like many beginning falcos your tech skill is probably the greatest part of your game that is lacking, just practice more but your falco seems to be coming along nicely.

Oh yeah and nice dragonforce song for the first vid lol.

 

[Wilhelmsan]

Your SHL is good, very consistent. You should tone down your SHL game just a bit and work on pillaring.

Wrong. And therefore also wrong.

If anything I would say work on your SHL game...hate to break it to you, but yours is not spectacular at this point. I promise though, if you can nail Falco's laser game, you've got the match vs anyone save peach and fox. Here are some things to think about:

-Your SHL was rather inconsistent. Several times I saw you land and fire a laser while standing. Falco's laser should optimally be about half his height off the ground and going at a quick pace.

-Learn to be mobile with SHL. This is so important to Falco's gameplay, because while SHL is the best approach in the game hands down...you can't really expect it to be that way in your game if you're not moving with it.

Falco's jump takes longer than many characters. When you dash-jump, this long "jumpcancel" results in a quarter-wavedash. This becomes useful for moving forward while shooting.

Dash, jump, release control stick, press B, fastfall.

This is my basic SHL approach. What's neat about this process is that you can modify some of the parts to be 'extra' unpredictable .

Replace Dash with Dashdance, and suddenly you have a dashdancing falco that can shoot lasers in either direction at any time. While this is actually very useful in teams, where you can be surrounded, we're critiquing your 1v1 videos and gameplay. So no, don't shoot lasers away from your opponent.

Which brings me to my next point. Sometimes I saw you facing the wrong direction with your SHL. It's okay, I still do that sometimes. What you can do to abate the problem is land the first accidental SHL into a dashdance, then you can continue when you're facing the right direction. Or you could Bair, or you could...and so on and so forth.

Working with lots of SHL has really helped me break the habit of fulljumping too much (which can easily get you killed by good players). Just practice and play with confidence.

and work on spacing also.

 

[Driz]

I do realize I need to be more consistent with the laser because I do fire while on the ground sometimes and although not to often I do get punished for it! I thaught I could move well with while shooting the laser but maybe just not using the rshl enough (still working on it). And Captain I didn't put the vids up so I can ask the person who did. Once again thanks for the advice on SHL but if anyone else has some other help plz tell me!

OMG YOU NOOB THESE VIDEOS ARE TERRIBLE FLAME FLAME FLAME.... now that we have that out of the way:

LOL I shoulda seen that one coming!

 

[Wilhelmsan]

as far as consistency goes, you don't have to be able to SHL for 5 minutes or anything. You just need to be able to quickly pull out 3 or 4 shots while you advance on your opponent. Falco is bloody amazing at giving his opponents very little time to think, so take advantage of this.

 

[invertigo]

agreed with wilhelmsan, you messed up alot of lasers and didnt use them in times that you could have. also watch your rolling. i noticed you did 2 rolls often to retreat when a rshl would have been far more efficient as well as quicker. aside from that you just need basic tech improement and experience (move choices, spacing).

 

[Driz]

I'm cutting down the rolls and still working on RSHL but I'm getting there. As I said I don't really have much experience so I'm working on going to more tournies and such to improve. Overall though I see what more or less everyone who posted said and understand what I'm doing wrong so now its a matter of fixing it and working into my gameplay. Pracitce, not a game just Practice !

 

[Grand Mango]

Driz, I didn't watch those videos, but I believe you were the Falco player who played Birdman's DK this most recent Saturday and lost.

If I have the right person, then one thing I noticed you didn't do very well was time your dair correctly when you hit their shield because you were constantly getting shield grabbed. Also, I think that once Birdman was at a semi high %, your focus became the Fsmash, many smashers can see right through this and punish you, don't make your game so linear by making Fsmash your only finishing move, it's really easy to be countered. I also don't think you actually connected one shine combo on him either.

These are just things I noticed while you were playing on Saturday.

 

[Artistry]

Sorry for the bad advice. I still think the rest besides the lasers was good advice though.

I was tired, so sue me. >_>

 

[Driz]

Yea I lost the match vs Birdman which I was pissed about because I felt stupid for those ones not that Birdmans not good but because I was playing crappy. And yea was not l-cancleing my dair correctly as I said I was nervous and wasn't really playing like I should but it's something I hope more tournies will cure and then wont make those pressure mistakes as much and as for fsmash I spam it a little too much whihc is something I'm trying to break so hopefully will get that down.

 

[Druggedfox]

In my opinion it would help if u played a little more technically, and by that i mean better comboing, and play like a \"textbook\" falco. An example of that taken to an extreme was bombsoldier, he doesnt have a very developed style but he makes very few technical errors. Im not saying be like him exactly, just more than u do now. When you get hit off the stage do u DI up? I dont think so but i dont want to be wrong, but that is usually the best way to DI. Lastly something very useful against marth is the light shield edgehog becasue if the marth gets back to the stage you can always do a ledgehopped bair to knock him off again.

 

[Deleted member]

work on your lasers, shine, pillar, combos and spacing

 

[Rapid_Assassin]

LOL @ Driz putting up the videos in the order in which he did the best in. He didn't even put up the first Zelda match, but had to put the vid of my craptacular Peach first. It's like saying "Hey guys, this is the one to watch!"

On a more serious note, I'd say work on your SHL, as others have mentioned. If you get it perfect, it's a guaranteed way to piss some people off (meaning, you're doing something right).

 

[Driz]

Ok I added 2 new vids! I actually shine combo a little in these but not great because although I can waveshine combo my friend when practicing when playing in an actually match its not my first though and in the 2nd vid I have 2 nice edge techs which I can do quite often but dont get too many oppurtunities

I want so suggestions on my full jumping as well as my fsmashing (too much??) No more comments about shield rolling I greately appreciate them and have been working on it. For any other suggestions such as shair more often go ahead and add them but I do notice some stuff but post what you think I need to improve, Thanks Again

and Emmy just because I felt those vids were the best showing of my playing wasn't just because I won but because I felt I sucked the least in those, Thanks for the Vids!

 

[d_shep04]

you got a good game. but you should fast fall your shl more. that's more effective

 

[180OP]

Ok some points.
1)You falco is good and you have lots of potential

2)SH lasering is good, but try not to laser while you are on the ground. I dont think you intended to but it happens. practice SH lasering so it doesnt happen. The point of the lasering is not to chip damage from your foe, it is to demobilize their movements, prevent their attacks and attacking them in their half second stun. and make sure you dont jump so far while laser that you are in front of your opponent.

3)You focus too much on Foward Smashing, even when your opponent has low %. He will exchange teh hit and punish you.
4)When you start a combo with someone, finish it, dont start there after get 2-3 hits. chase the guy.
5)I dont recall seeing any bair attacks. Falco's bair has a lot of priority and it's strong.

 

[Driz]

I played alot better at the tourney in Framingham yesterday but I gotta do some more up-tilts realized how much priority they have and use for combo starters. Besides that I'm just tweaking all the other stuff I mentioned!

 

[captainlukey]

i jsut watched the vids..... your falco vids are probly even worse than mine.... havent seen the new ones but...
still better to have vids up then not i guess....
no offense man but that was pretty crap....

 

[Junpappy]

i jsut watched the vids..... your falco vids are probly even worse than mine.... havent seen the new ones but...
still better to have vids up then not i guess....
no offense man but that was pretty crap....

This is a critique thread...not a lets spam/flame and get it closed thread.

You need to work on SHL'ing faster and more consistently like everyone already mentioned.

 

[Rapid_Assassin]

i jsut watched the vids..... your falco vids are probly even worse than mine.... havent seen the new ones but...
still better to have vids up then not i guess....
no offense man but that was pretty crap....

Let's see some of your vids then. I can probably point out 100's of things wrong with your playing, seeing how you're not PC Chris or Forward. So unless you have something that's either nice or constructive to say, don't say anything at all.

He's trying to learn and get better. So what if it's not amazing. He's certainly not the worst Falco I've ever seen.

 

[captainlukey]

i know...... just tellin the truth tho... thats my opinion
and my vid that i have up currently isnt much better and he knows this....
me and driz know each other a little bit... and im not flamin him... just leavvin a similar message to what he left me... check if you dont believe... and i havnt seen the new vids...

 

[180OP]

i know...... just tellin the truth tho... thats my opinion
and my vid that i have up currently isnt much better and he knows this....
me and driz know each other a little bit... and im not flamin him... just leavvin a similar message to what he left me... check if you dont believe... and i havnt seen the new vids...

Give some constructive points rather than just saying he sucks.
And just saying that he sucks because he said that you suck...is kind of lame. Why would you even bother to waste your time like this?

 

[invertigo]

too much rollng!!!!!

 

[Driz]

Lukey I can forgive you and my exact quote was
"You suck *** man that was the wort falco I have EVER seen!!!! LOL JK"

I was just kidding and said that "JK"
and as for sucking I believe I admited that these vids of me did suck but if you had seen me in the Framingham tourney then you could definately tell I improved I don't roll as much and still working on the SHL and l-canceling but it's definately getting there

I don't ave any new vids but hopefully I can start making my own vids so I don't have to go to tourneys to do so!

 

[Pat/Pro]

Driz is the man guys. He just started on the tourney scene and wants to get better....give him some real criticism. Next tourney this summer ill play some more matches with you. I would say just sit in training mode and work on your L canceling a little more. Try doing it when you hit someones shield and when you dont so you get more used to the difference. Falco is a character in which you have to make sure your technical skills are still sharp. Your getting better at it i could tell but your not there yet. Also like I said get used to working in the up tilt. I have never seen you use it but it has some insane priority and as a fox player I can say that falcos can give me trouble with it. Dont overuse it but just remember its there. There are some other things that I think you need to learn but perfecting the intermediate stuff first is always better than trying to learn that and high level techniques at the same time. That method of training worked for me as I went from placing not much higher than you are now to someone who usually cashes at tourneys in around a month and a half of serious training. Just take it in steps and dont jump around work on one or two things at a time and dont be afraid to lose when trying them out, its the only way you can get better. Alot of things in your game will get better with more tournaments like getting used to the speed of better players.

 

[captainlukey]

im just playing drizm....
your falco is getting better i must admit.... i even saw a couple of shine comboz....
keep up the good stuff....
there is only one real critisicm i have and its already been mentioned... just the shl thing....
and i dont really mean to be nasty man....
can you forgive me?

 

[invertigo]

stop before bwill hears us!

but yeah stop rolling :D

 

[burningherbs]

I watched your match against Emmy, Adat, and Pat/Pro, and the thing that stood out the most for me is botched fast falls in general (including full jumped aerials). I think if you fast falled more consistently, then it will feel easier for you to combo/start combos. I hope this helps...

 

[Driz]

Thanks for the added advice I still hope for more but as for Lukey you already are forgiven and get some recent vids up so I can critique you adn Pat I hope to be at the next tourney so I can get some practice with you!

 

[captainlukey]

ill try then.... and any luck with the goog vid link...?
i wanna see the newer vids that are up.... i kinda liked watching the first few... dont know why that is...

 

[Driz]

no luck ona goog link

 

[Rapid_Assassin]

I'm getting some on Google.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5013586129396116064

 

[Bunstable]

What I think? Well I'd say you're pretty good. I always wanted to play vs other people but I never had the chance because there is no tournament in my town... I think I have some chances to beat you by 20%

 

[Repryx]

How Long have you been playing?

 

[Creo]

Driz I don't know if this has been said because I only read first page and I am not trying to be repeititive but I notice you miss a lot of your grabs and you try and run to grab them. Falco has some extensive lag due to the run grab so I suggest JC them so it cancels the running lag and will be just like a standing still grab.

PS-Don't feel bad. You at least have a competitive scene. The people around me(only two)refuse to use advanced techniques so I need to get competitive as well. I haven't ever been to a tournament but await it. I was gonna attend when one of those Framingham ones once but my ride crashed and I am kind of young to drive. I don't know the point of this post but just thought people would like to know.

 

[Bunstable]

I always wanted to play in tournament... -_- it's so sad... Stupid small town./

 

[Driz]

Kinda funny that poss kept going !, anways I haven't been as crazy practicing smah as didwen I first was learning but I cancombo quite welland I'd say my gameplay is much moother although because of lack ofcompetition I can't play much. SO I've gotten much better and hopefully soon can get avid or 2 up here!

 

[Rapid_Assassin]

LOL I find it funny that people are still commenting on these matches. Must be my internet popularity..