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Crimson King

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I skimmed through a new PSM mag, basically the controller is identically to the PS2 without Dual Shock, which honestly, I never really cared about. It was wireless, with the optional USB cable.

It makes sense however, since the controller worked well since the PS1.

I am looking forward to some great titles though by Sony. With Underworld Evolution being pushed as one of the first few Blu-Ray titles it'll be cool to see what will happen with that.

Price tag still is uninteresting to me. I just spent $2000 for a computer to play games basically, and I know people WILL pay more as it is. Those gamers typically pay more to play just one game too. Fact is, the price is really high due to inflation. Prices will raise, people will make more money, it all balances out.
 

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Yeah, I have just as much income as I did years ago. I still won't pay $600 for a console. Probably with no games. That will have an unknown online system.

Fact is, it's just arrogance.
 

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I hate when people try to use inflation to justify a $600 system. That's ********. The point is $600 is STILL expensive and your average person can't afford or rather not spend that much. I have a lot more money now than I did a few years ago and there is NO WAY in hell I am paying that much for a system.
 

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But people WILL buy it. They are a huge, multi-billion dollar business. Chances are they researched this, ALOT, before slamming a price on it.

Alot of people felt the same way when MMOs came out. "No one would pay a quarter of the games price a month to play it." That kinda was disproven quickly.
 

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According to an industry insider who talked with Kotaku (Kotaku is generally a reliable site, but again, industry insider, so yeah, this is a rumor), the PS3 kits at E3 were running at 2.8GHz so they wouldn't overheat and had 2 gigs of RAM in them.. A lot more than the PS3 will really have.
 

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They're losing LESS money. If it's as good as they say they should be able to sell it for $500 or $400 and profit off the games.
 

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Chill said:
That might be true if they were making money when selling at $600 rather than losing it.
Okay, then they're just ********.
 

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They're losing LESS money. If it's as good as they say they should be able to sell it for $500 or $400 and profit off the games.
:rolleyes: let's hope you never enter business.

the price is high. but you are getting something out of it (depending on if you want blu ray or not...). people have made their choice - this issue gets boring.

does anyone know if the ps3 can do 7 controllers at the same time? i remember reading this aaaages ago and i thought it was the best feature of the new machine. but i haven't seen anyone mention it recently...
 

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In the most recent GamePro magazine I recieved, they showed a picture of the back of both the smaller hard drive and the larger hard drive versions of the PS3. However, one thing was missing from the cheaper PS3 with less hard drive capacity that was obvious on the more expensive one: The High Def port. I guess if you don't want to invest the extra $100 for the big hard drive, you're also boned when it comes to HD.
 

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Paranoid_Android said:
In the most recent GamePro magazine I recieved, they showed a picture of the back of both the smaller hard drive and the larger hard drive versions of the PS3. However, one thing was missing from the cheaper PS3 with less hard drive capacity that was obvious on the more expensive one: The High Def port. I guess if you don't want to invest the extra $100 for the big hard drive, you're also boned when it comes to HD.
Yeah, the "core" PS3 is even more worse than the core 360. At least with the core 360, you can just slap in a HD and you're good to go, but since there are actual physical differences with the two PS3s, it's not a good deal.

Sony hasn't shown me anything to call home about... I love MGS4, but it's not worth $600+ to me.
 

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This is very sad. They redid a 1999 controller and it's even worse than it was. I mean, this is a level of Sony that has not been reached before. Not only are they stealing laterally, company to company, but they are stealing temporally from themselves.

No PS3. Sony is officially not cool enough for me to waste me money on.
 

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SnaKKer said:
Yeah, the "core" PS3 is even more worse than the core 360. At least with the core 360, you can just slap in a HD and you're good to go, but since there are actual physical differences with the two PS3s, it's not a good deal.

Sony hasn't shown me anything to call home about... I love MGS4, but it's not worth $600+ to me.

LOL the core 360 is TERRIBLE. The core PS3 is auctually buyable compared to the 360.





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This is very sad. They redid a 1999 controller and it's even worse than it was. I mean, this is a level of Sony that has not been reached before. Not only are they stealing laterally, company to company, but they are stealing temporally from themselves.

No PS3. Sony is officially not cool enough for me to waste me money on.

The PS3 controller is ALOT more precis than the pelican one so it probably doesnt affect the third party controller but when you have a more advanced motion sensing in it it probably doesn't work as well.
 

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Tell that to nintendo, and any number of third party companies.

The real reason there's no rumble, is because they lost a lawsuit.
 

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Killer Tree said:
LOL the core 360 is TERRIBLE. The core PS3 is auctually buyable compared to the 360.
So, buying a harddrive and perhaps a high-def video cable is worse than not being able to upgrade your harddrive, not being able to upgrade your core PS3 to display in Sony's "True High-Def" (1080p), not being able to watch blu-ray movies, etc?
 

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So, buying a harddrive and perhaps a high-def video cable is worse than not being able to upgrade your harddrive, not being able to upgrade your core PS3 to display in Sony's "True High-Def" (1080p), not being able to watch blu-ray movies, etc?
You can't upgrade some of the features like SD slots. The harddrive on both models can be upgraded. It can still render HD just not at its highest setting. You can still watch Blu-Ray movies on the 'core' PS3, etc.
 

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The blu-ray thing was a continuation of my other statement about 1080p resolution. Yeah, you can watch blu-ray movies, but you aren't seeing them in 1080p... which you know, is the biggest point of blu-ray, higher resolution.
 

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Predictions "over several years" are almost meaningless. It's just another opprotunity for them to blow thier own horn.
As for the "secret weapon" I'm rather skeptical. Only when I see it on a recognized site such as IGN will I believe it, and even then I will take it with a grain of salt. I think it's a lot smaller than it's hyped to be.
 

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Cashed said:
The blu-ray thing was a continuation of my other statement about 1080p resolution. Yeah, you can watch blu-ray movies, but you aren't seeing them in 1080p... which you know, is the biggest point of blu-ray, higher resolution.

So in other words, if your TV is under $10,000 you should get the PS3?
 

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PS3's Secret Weapon said:
The device includes a sensor, which sees a user (including their complete surroundings), and a digital component, or "brain" which learns and understands user movement within those surroundings.

Prime Sense’s interactive device can see, track and react to user movements outside the computer, all without change of environment or wearable equipment for the end user. The closed device is plug and play and platform independent.
That's fine for a input device, but then you need software that uses it. Even if the peripheral is available for the PS3's launch, there will be very little game support for it... just like only Warhawk uses the Tilt capability of the dualshake.

On the other hand, this is a 3rd party making this peripheral, so it will also be availiabe for other consoles.
 

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If you close one eye, you can't see distance. But if you're moving around, you can tell by the way shapes change how far away something is.

This is basically what the program does.
 

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Cashed said:
The blu-ray thing was a continuation of my other statement about 1080p resolution. Yeah, you can watch blu-ray movies, but you aren't seeing them in 1080p... which you know, is the biggest point of blu-ray, higher resolution.
I think the biggest point is more space to fit the game becaise I dont even think that the first generation games are even going to be in 1080p
 

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You quoted it twice, but did you even read my post? I was talking about blu-ray movies (which are in 1080p) and how the core PS3 can't display in 1080p.
 

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Finally this week, if you thought official Sony PSP accessories were pricey enough, then the PlayStation Signature range out next month in Japan certainly isn't for us lowly commoners. For example a watch with the word PlayStation on the face, so small you'd need your best monocle on to read it, goes for US$ 650. Then there's the ugly (check it out yourself just below!) Emilio Pucci PSP Case for US$ 299, and a remote control with headphones at US$ 115. The rest of their classy lineup includes a US$ 71 pouch and US$ 19 stand for the PSP, a wallet that'll take out US$ 102 of your cash, a US$ 178 Leather Notebook Cover, US$ 23 Ballpoint Pens, a US$ 31 Photo Frame, US$ 133 for a plain white Knitted Crew Neck Shirt, and finally US$ 18 for a PlayStation Wine Glass and US$ 37 for a PlayStation Cork Screw.
Good lord Sony
 

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Oh come on, those prices are insane. And who's going to buy a wineglass or cork screw with Playstation on it? That's just ********.
 

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"... the best thing would be a PS3 with controls like the Wii." - Hideo Kojima (Metal Gear Solid) http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2006/06/30/kojima-creates-more-ps3-analogies/

And a survey done asking developers what they thought of the PS3 by Ge-Maga magazine in Japan shows:
  • 90.29% of those surveyed disagreed with the PS3's price point.
  • 56.31% disagree with the multiple SKUs.
  • 55.82% think the console will not sell with its current announced lineup (what about Riiiiidge Raaaacer?).
  • While 48.54% are unfazed, 32.52% of those survey were less confident with the PS3 after its E3 showing.
  • 62.13% feel the PS3 won't reach its goal of 6 million units sold by March 2007.

The last one is true for sure, Sony alone won't be able to make 6 million of the things by March 2007.
 

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The last one is true for sure, Sony alone won't be able to make 6 million of the things by March 2007.
It'll probably be the same problem that Microsoft and the X360 had to deal with. When you're losing money on such a powerful (and hard to manufacture) piece of hardware, you're going to have shortages. Not only that, but I think Sony's angle this generation, with the PS3 at an unbearably high price point, and games looking to sell for $60-$80, Sony won't be able to sell that many consoles.

Unless Sony somehow shapes up, they'll turn out much worse with the PS3 than MS did with the X360. I mean, even after such a shaky start, MS' system is doing fantastic, and is going to have a stellar holiday season. Not only that, but they'll have a steady influx of games from a variety of talented developers all through the system's lifetime. Sony doesn't look like it'll turn out the same way at least for a couple of years after launch, if that. However, this is merely just speculation; Sony could change their momentum if they wanted to. All they have to do is stop trying to fight a "format war" and re-enter the "console war."

I think Nintendo has a much better chance at putting up high sales numbers for their console, especially in Japan. I don't see them failing to put out the number of consoles they said they would (6 million, just like Sony was saying), especially at such a cheap price.
 

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I think the Wii60 movement is steadily gaining power. You get the 2 consoles with, combined, the best price, controls, franchises, power per dollar, third parties, coverage, support, games, and all around coolness.
 
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