Play p2p with LESS frames/ping TODAY!

[malva00]

So I heard this from SuPeRbOoMfAn who heard it from the great Fireblaster.

Steps to play p2p with 1 less frame​

1. Use Nov 1 p2p client cuz it's the best

2. Connect to the other person like normal

3. Host puts the smoothing box to "EXTRA" or "Always" if you guys get 4 frames or higher normally, "NONE" if you guys get 2 frames or less normally. (Not sure what's best for 3 frames)

4. As the game starts, press the "ping" button at the bottom once. Then you should have one frame less than normal. If you DON'T get one less frame, then try again and press the "ping" button rapidly. However, pressing it too many times can result in lag if the frames get too low.

UPDATE: I tried it with SheerMadness since we get 3 frames/97 ping normally, and we still got 3 frames after setting the box to "EXTRA" and pressing the "ping" button... setting the box to "Always" with a "ping" press resulted in 2 frames, but at an unplayable 55fps... this might be bad news if you wanna improve frames while already being on the borderline (97 ping is close to 4 frames).

UPDATE #2: I get 5 frames with this Japanese guy, couldn't go down to 4 with "EXTRA", but could get 4 with "Always". So try "Always" if "EXTRA" doesn't work

Post your experiences with this new technique here

 

[HoN3Y64]

Last
10lasts.

 

[blaze3927]

thatll pust east american players down to 7 frames must try it
wanna game malva? xD

 

[House]

Pressing the ping button to lower the delay is old story. Anyway, it works really well.

 

[smakis]

not exactly new, and doing this decreases my fps to 50 with anyone i'v tried doing it with : <

 

[Superstar]

Me and Boom are at the borderline of 3 frames, but we always get 4. If he ever wants to play a noob that hasn't played in like 2 months, I guess we can use this for 3 frames.

Despite it being apparently old, not all of us knew about it...I didn't...

 

[NixxxoN]

This method is fail because you get less frames but also you get less FPS than 60. There's simply no magical way to reduce your delay besides probably getting a better connection with more upload bandwidth.

 

[malva00]

Lol NixxxoN I did this with MATTS! we usually get 4 but we got 3 and we got 60fps

It's up to your connections. I tried with MEGU but it lagged. However, it worked with another Japanese player.

MATTS! has MATTS! quality internet it seems

If you go down 2 frames or more the FPS will drop 99.9% chance

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

so if this is old then why didn't anyone say anything?

 

[malva00]

Cuz Out of Continenters are Elitists when it comes to sharing information with North Americans jk

POST 2010!

 

[JaimeHR]

good stuff, but I'm not sure about nov 1 being the best p2p version, it usually lags a lot for me when I'm playing someone above 100ms but i will try this as well.

you can also get 0 ping if you press the PING button while starting the game, this is maybe only usefull if you play with people at 50ms or less xP.

 

[Lovage]

god dam Elitists

 

[DMoogle]

This method is fail because you get less frames but also you get less FPS than 60. There's simply no magical way to reduce your delay besides probably getting a better connection with more upload bandwidth.

It is not certain that your FPS will be reduced below 60, especially if you connection with someone is just on the margin, and delay has NOTHING to do with bandwidth (unless your bandwidth is outrageously low).

 

[malva00]

cookies to those who find the two hidden messages in my first post

 

[Blue Yoshi]

If you wanted to hide it better, you should have used grey font. Black font is still very easy to read. Unless that's not the hidden messages you are talking about.

Well either way, I'm hungry, so I'll see if I can win those cookies

ilikeicecreamwithlotsoftoppings

penguinsarethemostpreciousofallanimals

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[malva00]

lol I don't get it I can't read it when it's black only thing I can think of is different smashboards background or my monitor really sucks

NO COOKIES

 

[hamburglar]

lol I don't get it I can't read it when it's black only thing I can think of is different smashboards background or my monitor really sucks

NO COOKIES

yea i spent like 2 minutes looking for hidden messages that weren't the obvious two in black because i thought it was too easy.....lol i need to stop drinking so much

 

[Frogles]

This method is fail because you get less frames but also you get less FPS than 60. There's simply no magical way to reduce your delay besides probably getting a better connection with more upload bandwidth.

boom and i got 1 less frame today with 60 fps. seemed pretty magical to me.

 

[Blue Yoshi]

I'm using Revolution (the default one). Almost everyone else uses that one as well.

 

[NixxxoN]

It is not certain that your FPS will be reduced below 60, especially if you connection with someone is just on the margin, and delay has NOTHING to do with bandwidth (unless your bandwidth is outrageously low).

Well I think the quality of the connexion (maybe not only the bandwidth) has a lot to do with your ping/delay. The servers are a good example. Servers have a great connection with a massive bandwidth and you will get a much better ping connecting to G64 than connecting to a player who lives near G64's location.

 

[DMoogle]

Well I think the quality of the connexion (maybe not only the bandwidth) has a lot to do with your ping/delay. The servers are a good example. Servers have a great connection with a massive bandwidth and you will get a much better ping connecting to G64 than connecting to a player who lives near G64's location.

Um, no, you won't. At least, not because of that.

 

[NixxxoN]

Um, no, you won't. At least, not because of that.

In europe everyobody does get more ping on p2p than on server connections. No matter the location, you get less ping between you and a server rather than between you and another player. Its because of whatever, but its a reality, lol.
Maybe USA is 100% full of fiber optics and everything works better, who knows.

 

[M3tr01D]

That's because the player lives farther away then the server. G64 is pretty far east coast, aka close to europe.

 

[DMoogle]

In europe everyobody does get more ping on p2p than on server connections. No matter the location, you get less ping between you and a server rather than between you and another player. Its because of whatever, but its a reality, lol.
Maybe USA is 100% full of fiber optics and everything works better, who knows.

That would make sense if the server is in the center of everybody. For example, if one player is in Portugal and the other is in France, their individual pings are going to be much lower connecting to a server in Spain than if they connected to each other.

But if the player in France instead lives in Spain, and the server is in France, then that shouldn't be the case.

Connection types influence ping (e.g. wireless connections have relatively high latency), but even the word "bandwidth" should clue you in that it measures how much can be sent (for all practical purposes) at a time, not how quickly a data packet, once sent, reaches its destination.

More info: http://www.numion.com/faq/ping.html

 

[HoN3Y64]

Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream is pretty good.

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

Well I think the quality of the connexion (maybe not only the bandwidth) has a lot to do with your ping/delay. The servers are a good example. Servers have a great connection with a massive bandwidth and you will get a much better ping connecting to G64 than connecting to a player who lives near G64's location.

so how come I get more ping in g64 than anyone in east coast

 

[M3tr01D]

That would make sense if the server is in the center of everybody. For example, if one player is in Portugal and the other is in France, their individual pings are going to be much lower connecting to a server in Spain than if they connected to each other.

But if the player in France instead lives in Spain, and the server is in France, then that shouldn't be the case.

Connection types influence ping (e.g. wireless connections have relatively high latency), but even the word "bandwidth" should clue you in that it measures how much can be sent (for all practical purposes) at a time, not how quickly a data packet, once sent, reaches its destination.

More info: http://www.numion.com/faq/ping.html

I can get the same ping on a wireless G as I can with a 100Mbit ethernet. Wireless connections not being up to par for one individual task isn't really accurate anymore imo.

 

[dandan]

That would make sense if the server is in the center of everybody. For example, if one player is in Portugal and the other is in France, their individual pings are going to be much lower connecting to a server in Spain than if they connected to each other.

But if the player in France instead lives in Spain, and the server is in France, then that shouldn't be the case.[/url]

just a quick note but spain has some of the worst routing in history, and for some reason they can have the same pings to europe that i, in israel have to the us.

connection speed also depends on the quality of the routing, mainly on the quality of the routing really. like i can get 150 ms to spain because of their bad routing, but 140ms to NY because of the cross atlantic fiber.

 

[Untrust Us]

I can get the same ping on a wireless G as I can with a 100Mbit ethernet. Wireless connections not being up to par for one individual task isn't really accurate anymore imo.

That's true. I get 109 at Galaxy 64 with 100mbit ethernet but if I use my neighbor's 2 bar wireless internet signal, I get 82 ping. I think it has to do with your ISP's internet service and how good their infrastructure is.

 

[DMoogle]

I can get the same ping on a wireless G as I can with a 100Mbit ethernet. Wireless connections not being up to par for one individual task isn't really accurate anymore imo.

Yeah I don't have a lot of experience with wireless connections, I just assumed. Guess I was wrong about that. The point is still there though.

just a quick note but spain has some of the worst routing in history, and for some reason they can have the same pings to europe that i, in israel have to the us.

connection speed also depends on the quality of the routing, mainly on the quality of the routing really. like i can get 150 ms to spain because of their bad routing, but 140ms to NY because of the cross atlantic fiber.

It was kind of a dumbed-down, ceteris paribus example.

 

[NixxxoN]

lol, well maybe its spain (lol connections go through Great Britain before going to mid europe), but still

i get 65 ping with a Paris server, and i get 110 ping with a player near paris
I get 78 ping with a London server and i get 120+ ping with a player near london

And a lot of other examples like this. There's no exception.
Maybe the ISP's are the problem. Servers probably have higher priority @ latency.

 

[DMoogle]

You should run a traceroute for your connection with the server, then run one for your connection with the player, and compare them to see exactly what's going on.

 

[malva00]

Looks like my topic is a SUCCESS

*shakes hands with colleagues*

 

[dandan]

It was kind of a dumbed-down, ceteris paribus example.

I know, i just found it funny that out of all the countries in europe you randomly picked the one with the worst internet infrastructre for your example.

 

[Xivii]

Looks like my topic is a SUCCESS

*shakes hands with colleagues*

i c wut u did thar.

 

[Thino]

some West Coast player should try that with me , I may finally get 7 frames with them from AFRICA , LOL

 

[NixxxoN]

some West Coast player should try that with me , I may finally get 7 frames with them from AFRICA , LOL

Just curious, what u doing in africa if youre italian? ._.

 

[Thino]

Just curious, what u doing in africa if youre italian? ._.

im not italian lol , oh **** too bad I cant really play right now my new controller is ****ty , you gotta press buttons all the way for them to register its incredibly bad for shorthops lol

the analog stick is godly tho , so its a shame