Platform Cancelled Ice Blocks. . . . (wobbles?)

[Dogysamich]

So, after searching and looking, I can find posts that sorta describe how to do it, but I'm not seeing an exact how to do it.

Lil help?

 

[mathis4dorkz]

im with you on this one. no idea ethierrr

 

[Wobbles]

Alright, here goes

Before I tell you the steps, here are a few things to keep in mind.

1) The firing of an ice-block almost functions like a DJC, in that it changes the momentum of your jump. However, what it does is it almost functions like a jump of its own and gives you a set amount of height, then drops you. In short, if you fire it while you're still rising, it changes the height of your jump.

2) If you land before the ice-block comes out fully, it materializes but doesn't fire. It won't hit anybody, but you DO get hitboxes from your hammer swing.

3) To platform cancel, you need horizontal momentum; if that momentum carries you to the edge of the platform, it will stop your lag by replacing it with a new animation. If you go backwards, you just fall off the platform and so there is no more landing lag. If you go forwards, it will be replaced by the "Oh crap I'm falling" ledge balancing thing. We need a name for that, btw. I vote for OSACA, which stands for "'Oh ****, a cliff' animation."

4) When you fire iceblocks early in your jump, you retain a fair amount of horizontal momentum.

Alright, glad we got that covered.

So, to platform cancel an iceblock, you need to position yourself beneath the platform. Next, you do a dashing full jump. Somewhere in there, depending on the height of the platform, you hit B to fire your ice-block. If you do it right, you will go forward firing the ice-block then land on the edge of the platform and have no lag. If you go backwards you will slide off, if you go forwards you will experience the OSACA animation and you will have to hit forward to run off the platform.

You can also do this by sitting on a platform and wavedashing into an ice-block. This is, IMO, a lot harder to do because it requires you to time the wavedash perfectly and the iceblock perfectly as well as space yourself on the platform exactly right. Laaaame. Note that you don't experience OSACA doing a wavedash ice-block.

I hope that helps.

 

[Negative Zero]

Wow, thanks. It does.

 

[cemo]

Wobbles with the fancy ice block spamming.
So is this one of your patent pending ways to do a solo ice block chaser?

And I'm always impressed by the depth of your posts.

 

[Delphiki]

It's a bit odd that the OSACA ends your lag. I wonder why it doesn't do it for standard aerials....

 

[McCloudDash91]

hahaha..OSACA...thats good

I like this, ill get to practicing right away.


*runs off to practice*

 

[Wobbles]

Actually Delphiki, the OSACA does interrupt your normal aerial lag. It's the principle behind a platform cancel. The reason I bring it up at all is because there is a difference between platform cancelling while facing backwards or forwards. If you go forwards, OSACA kicks in. If you go backwards, you just slide off.

I actually like using it to combo GaW's back-air into stuff. You will rarely see this stuff coming into play for IC's.

 

[H4PPYHE4D]

so basically all this is, is spamming iceblocks?

 

[Lixivium]

so basically all this is, is spamming iceblocks?

That's one of the uses. The other, more situational use, is that you can fire an iceblock, platform cancel it, then run forwards out of the OSACA animation (I've always called it "teetering") and chase your own ice block without having to desynch first.

 

[Negative Zero]

So that's how Link does that up+B cancel in Perfect Control.

 

[mathis4dorkz]

here is chu's actual tip on how to do it.


Tip of the week !

Quad-Ice -
A technique used to shoot out 4 ice blockz in one single moment

How itz done ?
U have to be standing on a platform. Shoot an ice block AS ur wavedashing off the platform. When u wavedash off, itz cancelz the Ice Blockz, so you can Ice block again

And that iz the quad ice =D



wobbles MIGHT of been a little more detailed. lol

 

[Nintendude]

OSACA? How about "teetering animation" or even just teetering.

 

[cemo]

"oh **** a cliff" just kinda rolls off the tongue, though.

 

[McCloudDash91]

plus it's a hell of a lot more funny than teetering animation

easier to say too, hence Phen.

 

[Wobbles]

Oh, something that's worth mentioning is that OSACA de-syncs Nana. If you were to walk forward off the platform, she would fall and would not take any action. You can use the platform cancelled iceblocks to set up a de-sync.

One such way is as follows:

1) Dash and jump into your iceblock.
2) Platform cancel it.
3) Walk forward out of the OSACA and drop to the ground.
4) Right before you land, fire an iceblock.
5) Have Nana fire an iceblock of her own, or blizzard, or smash, or whatever. With really good timing and fast fingers you can get her to Nanapult out of this.

Yep yep.

 

[B4tt1enet]

is it possible to see a video of this being done? i think that'd help a lot

 

[Wobbles]

If somebody capable of making the video does it... >_>

 

[Reside]

Not sure if you searched and just didnt find anything, not sure how well the search function works (I rarely read these forums) but I posted this maybe four months ago,

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=92755

not sure if that wasn't what you were looking for but worth a post