Plank should be banned from the community, period.

[Stealing is Stealing.]

As players, it is our responsibility to ensure we have rides to and from the tournament, adequate housing, money for sustenance, the state of mind to put on the best show we can, respect for one another, respect for the equipment, and respect for the venue. This was achieved in spades at pound 5. As players, it is not our responsibility to ensure we rent rooms from a hotel. It is not our responsibility to make sure the tournament generates enough money to cover costs.

It is the duty of the director to make sure the tournament's date ensures a maximum attendance, the venue can hold its fair share of players, and costs would be covered.

Plank had a duty as a player, and a TO to ensure that the prizes were payed out. This, above all else, rings the truest. If Plank was unable to cover the fees associated with hosting a tournament, he could have easily appealed to the community for assistance. I know for a fact that plenty of people, myself included, would have helped in any way that we could.

Instead of this, he slyly and roguishly took money that was never his to begin with. The venue fee is what he was using to pay out. The entry fee is a fee we tournament goers pay to be allowed to enter the tournament. This money is used to pay out the prizes to the top placing individuals. If the money doesn't come completely and specifically form the entry fee, then the tournament organizer must declare this as such on the advertisement.

In this case, Plank took thousands of dollars from people who earned it. Selfishly, Plank thought of his debt before anyone else. Think about how much money players from Europe spent to get here. Armada flew here from another country, payed for housing, and spent excessive amounts of money on food. Should he be entitled to the sweat of his brow? (If you haven't played this game, shame on you.)

So, instead of Plank asking for help, and saving face, he stole from us. And not just the people who placed. He stole from every player who has ever watched a stream. Every player who has ever gone to a tournament. Because when you put the doubt in people's minds of whether or not they should trust a new tournament organizer, then you're hurting us all.

Personally, I find it appalling that you're all willing to look past it. I've forgiven Plank, for it's the noble thing to do; however that doesn't mean I have to trust, like, or respect him. These things, I will never again.

 

[KageMurphy]

Planks been to like.... 10 events since Pound 5? Lol, stop hatin. Thats my boy, we throwing money down like a rich white girls bar tab.

 

[Stealing is Stealing.]

If he's your friend, he's your friend. I'm not trying to deter you from liking him. My point is that he's a thief and a liar in this community. If he was a thief outside of the Smash community, he'd likely be sued or thrown in jail.

He should be committed to Smash Jail: Banned.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Wow, I realize the guy owes 'debt' to the Smash community, mainly from Pound 5, would it be justification doing so? I mean, is the guy still running these kind of tourneys?

 

[Jonas]

What are we, the ****ing URC, handing out red cards? Just let the individual TOs decide whether he should be able to attend or not.

 

[ksizl4life]

completely agree. I'm still upset most of the people who earned their money gave up on actually getting it but hey what can they do?

plank has gone unpunished. something must be done.

Gaga

 

[Stealing is Stealing.]

What are we, the ****ing URC, handing out red cards? Just let the individual TOs decide whether he should be able to attend or not.

Because a lot of the TOs around the country are more random than you. They may not realize that this guy completely screwed people out of what is close to TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. If MLG didn't pay that, you'd be ranting and raving all over the place.

Don't forget: At one point, Plank was a prominent player, who has strong connections. Those people can still make a TO feel like **** if he's banned. People need to know that the support to ban him is there. People need to know that if you STEAL from this community, you're ****ing done. Plain and simple.

How dare he spend 10k of player's money, then without paying ANY of it back, start using that money to win more of OUR MONEY.

 

[Destiny Warrior]

What is with the sudden surge in Plank threads <_<

 

[Stealing is Stealing.]

The sudden surge is that SOME TO's are looking past that he stole ten thousand dollars.

 

[King Funk]

How about giving Plank a chance to redeem himself, but only if he pays the Pound V winners?

Whether he does it slowly/progressively or instantly doesn't matter, but as long as he does it it'd be all good no?

 

[Jonas]

He didn't steal from "the community," he stole from the people who attended P5. "The community" doesn't have the power to ban people from tournaments because (thankfully) we aren't run by some kind of government like the Brawl community is, so it's 100% the TOs' call to make.

If a TO allows Plank to attend a tournament and "the community" doesn't like that, they can just voice their opinion about it by staying away. Simple as that.

 

[ksizl4life]

exactly what guy with flower avatar says

if plank gets away with this with no problem, whats stopping other TO's from doing the same? i mean

Random TO: hey no ones getting in trouble for what plank did and he stole 10k! why not just steal 1k. shouldnt be a problem at all right?

Leniency towards this will be grave for the future, bank on it.

@king funk: it's been 8 months and he already stated he doesnt owe anyone anything..

 

[Jonas]

It DID have consequences. Plank's name as a TO is ruined and nobody is ever going to attend one of his tournaments again, in case he decides to host one.

 

[Stealing is Stealing.]

How about giving Plank a chance to redeem himself, but only if he pays the Pound V winners?

Whether he does it slowly/progressively or instantly doesn't matter, but as long as he does it it'd be all good no?

I'm sure he's going to issue out 10,000 dollars to play a game he wasn't good at to begin with.

I'd be fine to allow him back if he at least started paying the money back, but to quote him verbatim: "i don't owe any of you people anything LMAO"

He didn't steal from "the community," he stole from the people who attended P5. "The community" doesn't have the power to ban people from tournaments because (thankfully) we aren't run by some kind of government like the Brawl community is, so it's 100% the TOs' call to make.

If a TO allows Plank to attend a tournament and "the community" doesn't like that, they can just voice their opinion about it by staying away. Simple as that.

Jonas, I can't imagine your tune would be as high pitched and dandy if he took that money from you. But as you're a player who has never really competed at top level, it's hard to express the true nature of this crime.

If you can't understand that he stole more than just money, then you've no place to debate.

 

[Jonas]

Look, I'm not trying to defend the guy. I'm trying to defend individual TOs' rights to allow him to attend their tournaments if they decide he's a good guy afterall.

It's pointless trying to view it from the P5 top players' point of view, because nobody is forcing them to attend tournaments where Plank is allowed. As I said, they can just stay away if they don't like the way the tournament is run.

 

[Stealing is Stealing.]

Why should players like PP and Armada be put into incredibly uncomfortable situations, all because a thief thinks his eight month break from Smash has been proper repentance?

The TOs are being disrespectful to the players who haven't wronged the community, specifically by allowing someone who may have made their life in this community that much worse. You're guilty of such by advocating such behavior.

 

[Mic_128]

The TOs are being disrespectful to the players who haven't wronged the community, specifically by allowing someone who may have made their life in this community that much worse. You're guilty of such by advocating such behavior.

Whereas by constantly bringing this up, constantly pointing it out, rubbing it in, you're making someone's life in the community worse. Perhaps we should ban you, Mr "I'm too much of a coward to use my real account"

No threads about individual users. And if you have an issue with who TO's let enter their tournaments, take it up with them instead of attempting to run a public smear campaign.