Peach's New Up B - A curse and a blessing?

[Airgemini]

Yeah me too...Especially in battlefield...I hate then when you get to close to the ledge you dont grab it on that stage.

 

[RedMage8BT]

Battlefield had glitched edges. Plenty of times I would see people inexplicably "miss" the edges. That's why I never played on it.

 

[Rain(ame)]

Actually, I found out that in battlefield, that if you hold forward, you'll just not grab the ledge. Thus hence....being battlefielded....well part of it, xD. I wouldn't say that Peach's recovery was Broken, because it still had it's MANY drawbacks. The broken recovery was Samus'...but we're not here to get into that are we? lol. Anyhow, I think the nerf'd second jump MIGHT be a blessing for us. The Parasol, as stated before will help considerably. I didn't like not having range with that thing and JUST barely missing the edge. If it's stronger.....(Mike G combos anyone? lol) then it'll be a help. And now....to lighten the mood.

(Sorry about this, Ryoko, don't be mad at me. >_>)

LOL RYOKO WEARS A SKIRT!!!

I have seen your other thread about "freeze frames," and none of the reasons listed particularly blew up my skirt. But that's something for another topic.

 

[Shadow312]

Hm I do not see why people are worrying. After watching many vids, when Peach parasols she can still let go and fall down faster. [But not as fast as melee] But I don't think it makes a big differance. And considering her parasol goes much higher, thats a big buff.

 

[Airgemini]

How much higher does it go compared to melee?

 

[Joecool]

I've noticed that too. she does goes higher.

 

[The Hypnotist]

Items are easier to catch in general in Brawl, which will probably lead to me using less turnips. I guess the Side-B will replace it as my staple B move.

I'm really pissed off about them making the game easier. People accidently catching items isn't cool, it makes the turnips terrible in advanced play.

 

[ripman3]

technical points aside, i like the new look of the parasol.

only thing i don't like about the new peach from what i saw: the noise she makes when she uses her peach-bomber attack. It IMO is not an improvement.

 

[Rain(ame)]

Yeah, it did sound a lil' odd. I still say, though....at least for my conclusion, it might just be a decent trade-off.

 

[Airgemini]

I wonder why they even included Toad in her moveset for Brawl.....

 

[Masque]

I wonder why they even included Toad in her moveset for Brawl.....

Tradition, I'm afraid. I would have preferred a replacement for numerous reasons--namely so Toad's chances as a playable character wouldn't have been so strongly damaged--but I guess we just roll with Sakurai's proverbial punches.

 

[Airgemini]

Yeah I always liked Toad......Whatre the buffs to it? I forgot...Are there any?....And who knows MAYBE he might change that move with something else.

 

[Penguyen]

Yeah I always liked Toad......Whatre the buffs to it? I forgot...Are there any?....And who knows MAYBE he might change that move with something else.

I think it's executed faster. Someone also mentioned that the knockback is increased (saw it in some vid). But other than that nothing has changed...
Anyone willing to suggest improvements?

 

[Airgemini]

Besides the Toad nah...They should fix her double jump though...Its way to short IMO.

 

[.:~*Momo*~:.]

I like how high her parasol takes her in this game, in Melee it doesn't get her very far, so if I'm below the platform trying to recover and I can't use my double jump, I imagine this new Peach Parasol move will help out a lot. ^^;

I LOVE how her Peach Bomber move was revamped, I love the hearts and how much faster it is and such.

Though I imagine her Vegetable move will be a lot less useful this time around... and her Toad move looks like it'll be the same as in Melee... so I'll probably be using her parasol and bomber attacks most... as long as she doesn't fall TOO slowly with the parasol.

 

[Shadow312]

I like how high her parasol takes her in this game, in Melee it doesn't get her very far, so if I'm below the platform trying to recover and I can't use my double jump, I imagine this new Peach Parasol move will help out a lot. ^^;

I LOVE how her Peach Bomber move was revamped, I love the hearts and how much faster it is and such.

Though I imagine her Vegetable move will be a lot less useful this time around... and her Toad move looks like it'll be the same as in Melee... so I'll probably be using her parasol and bomber attacks most... as long as she doesn't fall TOO slowly with the parasol.

I saw her fall at average speed. It isn't bad at all.

Yea, her Peach bomber is going to rock. Much faster! I also believe the Toad has more knockback.

 

[.:~*Momo*~:.]

Yeah I saw her fall speed too and didn't think it was that bad, it doesn't look as slow as some people are saying... but I didn't play the game... so maybe I'm wrong.

And yeah I can't wait to finally put the Peach Bomber move to use! It wasn't that great in Melee but in Brawl from what I've read and saw it looks much more effective! ^.^

 

[iron blade]

Peach bomber looks slightly stronger now with less lag afterward. Her double jump did not deserve the nerf that it got. I'm glad that her fsmash got buffed, with a lot of added knockback. It sucks how her dsmash's godly range was significantly decreased though...

 

[Airgemini]

Yeah thats kinda funny, her dress is more widder and her Dsmash sucks lol............Hey cant you jump after you air dodge now in Brawl? It would go: double jump> airdodge ( you'll dodge upward because of new physics) > wall bomb(s)> to parasol for recovering.

 

[Penguyen]

I pmed eternal phoenix (he played at e for all) and apparently i dont think you can wall bomb in brawl (he said she just moves against it). The increased range, reduced lag and recoil got me a little too excited before i actually knew everything...

 

[Airgemini]

Oh that sucks......I know I've read that you can though.

 

[iron blade]

Yeah thats kinda funny, her dress is more widder and her Dsmash sucks lol............Hey cant you jump after you air dodge now in Brawl? It would go: double jump> airdodge ( you'll dodge upward because of new physics) > wall bomb(s)> to parasol for recovering.

Yes, no more free-fall animation after airdoges(!). Hmm... peach suddenly seems to have recovery potential, especially since you grab the ledge no matter which way you're facing now.

 

[Zindura]

While watching the E4All videos, I noticed something about her Up-B.

It has massive knockback for an Up-B when she opens the parasol.

Like, she got a KO with it on an opponent... and I think they were at 70% or so.

 

[Airgemini]

Yes, no more free-fall animation after airdoges(!). Hmm... peach suddenly seems to have recovery potential, especially since you grab the ledge no matter which way you're facing now.

Pits recovery is going to be so good....He has multi jumps (air dodge after each one) and his up B.

 

[iron blade]

Yea, her parasol has a lot of added knockback on the final hit. It also seems like you land almost all to all of the hits easier, like mario's upb.

 

[Penguyen]

Oh that sucks......I know I've read that you can though.

He wasn't sure so there's still hope. Besides it was a demo anything can happen

 

[Airgemini]

Yeah...... We should keep that i mind.

 

[Samochan]

Lol up b from shield just got a bit more useful if it has actual knockback. xD Albeit the freeze frames make it easy to di the last hit and it goes higher and slower fast fall, meaning easier to punish if avoided. Meh. In vertical recovery they want us to rely more on her parasol, which makes us vulnerable... hmph. I guess that's trying to nerf peach and make her balanced character cause she got many other buffs.

Peach's vertical combo ability and recovery was alreaby bad on ssbm, with the reduce in height on her second jump is just bad for me, cause I love to do uair combos and lots of djc'ing. I could foresee some nasty turnip tricks (stitch->aerial fc->recatch while doing aerial->stitch), but in brawl turnips get way less useful if everyone and their granma accidentally catch stitchfaces when they press a or z button a mile away.

 

[SmashChu]

Peach's parasol was always a recovery for me. I would sometimes use it to combo, but niot often. It's not a bad nerf. If it's recovery is better it will help her own as she is heavier now.

 

[iron blade]

She is heavier now? Good. She had good attacks in melee but her light weight didn't help her at all.

 

[Zindura]

You know, her double jump may not have been really "nerfed".

Peach is a floaty character to begin with, and everyone's floatier in Brawl. This means they won't fall so far below the stage while recovering horizontally. Vertical recovery probably won't be as big a component in this game as in Melee.

 

[Airgemini]

Well at least she'll be able to airdodge after the second jump and then do her parasol.

 

[iron blade]

This game does seem to be more about horizontal recovery. Melee was mainly focused on vertical recovery because you fell faster.

 

[Airgemini]

Yeah it does......