Peach vs little mac?

[PKIvysaur]

If I am maining peach against mac, what is a good way to counter him other than literally spamming toadsheid and the peach bomber? Should I just stay in the air and have a turnip ready for the ko uppercut?

 

[ryuujinx]

Toad and peach bomber are both great tools against 90% of them that just mindlessly dash attack at you. For the rest that play more patient, throw some turnips, hover above his head and dair him. Dtilt > Nair (Or Dtilt > Fair at slightly higher%) once you get him to calm down.

Also shield into either grab or dsmash works on his sideb (Dsmash if he ends up behind you, grab if he's in front). You just need to force him to play a slower game that you control the pace or you'll get bodied hard.

For glory being on FD doesn't help that matter though. Wtb battlefield.

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Something I've noted - if your getting stuck in his Jab combo, try and move away and jump out of it. You can often drop down and Fair him as he gets stuck in the finishing part of the combo (this goes for all characters with these kind of jabs not just Little Mac). Doesn't always work but something to bear in mind.

I've found Floating Dairs work very well vs Little Mac. I would be very wary using Peach Bomber and ESPECIALLY Toad since missing one of these can mean death.

I approach this match up quite aggressively and go in for as many aerial combos/juggles as I can because I don't like keeping him alive any longer than I have to because of the KO punch and fighting him on the ground isn't favourable since he's faster. Get him offstage ASAP - your aim shouldn't be to KO him outright but rather put him in a position where he's either offstage or you can trap him into taking a hit to force him offstage. His recovery is exceptionally bad so once you get him offstage that's usually it for him.

 

[ryuujinx]

I would be very wary using Peach Bomber and ESPECIALLY Toad since missing one of these can mean death.

While true, you can on reaction toad his side+b which people love to spam, his dash attack you can't react to with toad, but you can shieldgrab him after for an easy punish. Peach bomber is pretty safe as long as you don't completely miss though, just make sure you don't spam it mindlessly and you should be fine.

 

[PKIvysaur]

Toad and peach bomber are both great tools against 90% of them that just mindlessly dash attack at you. For the rest that play more patient, throw some turnips, hover above his head and dair him. Dtilt > Nair (Or Dtilt > Fair at slightly higher%) once you get him to calm down.

Also shield into either grab or dsmash works on his sideb (Dsmash if he ends up behind you, grab if he's in front). You just need to force him to play a slower game that you control the pace or you'll get bodied hard.

For glory being on FD doesn't help that matter though. Wtb battlefield.

Hmmmm. Ill go with the dair stuff. Sounds promising

Something I've noted - if your getting stuck in his Jab combo, try and move away and jump out of it. You can often drop down and Fair him as he gets stuck in the finishing part of the combo (this goes for all characters with these kind of jabs not just Little Mac). Doesn't always work but something to bear in mind.

I've found Floating Dairs work very well vs Little Mac. I would be very wary using Peach Bomber and ESPECIALLY Toad since missing one of these can mean death.

I approach this match up quite aggressively and go in for as many aerial combos/juggles as I can because I don't like keeping him alive any longer than I have to because of the KO punch and fighting him on the ground isn't favourable since he's faster. Get him offstage ASAP - your aim shouldn't be to KO him outright but rather put him in a position where he's either offstage or you can trap him into taking a hit to force him offstage. His recovery is exceptionally bad so once you get him offstage that's usually it for him.

Great advice but what do I do agaianst hard core mac players?

 

[EdreesesPieces]

Just spam turnips. Keep edge canceling them, running to shield, then if he's close throw it out of shield. If he doesn't approach just throw it, wait for him to shield, and pressure with dairs.

Just spam dairs while floating. He can't approach Peach.

Always fight with the edge of the stage right behind you. Don't let him play in the center of the stage. Force him to approach by using turnips, then find a way to grab him and throw him off stage and gimp him. You're goal isn't to fight him, it's to grab him and throw him off stage.

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Great advice but what do I do agaianst hard core mac players?

Go with Edrees' advice and camp him out. Technically you don't have to approach if you have the lead.

By hardcore do you mean very very good Little Mac players?
If that's the case then it really comes to playing better than your opponent and being able to read their actions and punish accordingly - Little Mac is quick but you can still bait and punish like with any other match up.

 

[PKIvysaur]

Just spam turnips. Keep edge canceling them, running to shield, then if he's close throw it out of shield. If he doesn't approach just throw it, wait for him to shield, and pressure with dairs.

Just spam dairs while floating. He can't approach Peach.

Always fight with the edge of the stage right behind you. Don't let him play in the center of the stage. Force him to approach by using turnips, then find a way to grab him and throw him off stage and gimp him. You're goal isn't to fight him, it's to grab him and throw him off stage.

That makes sense. Thanks! I've managed to break alot of shields by down smashing, dairing, and peach bombering so thats a huge help on him

 

[Razmakazi]

Lil Mac is my current third, and he can def be camped, but he can't be hit very easily I feel. Like if you're floating then he can just stay away, and he's tiny so if you try to approach with float then dash attack or side b will hit you. So yeah, camping works. In FG I try to dash grab or dash attack when he approaches since one foxtrot for Mac covers 1/3rd of the stage; this gets him in the air/off the stage pretty much.