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Peach can wavedash! (In Brawl) (Video should work now)

SleepyK

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At you understand with time comes change. But Honestly speaking Peach is that bad. I think she's middle tier or something. I've done well with Peach so far. The only person that I know gives me or Peach a very hard time is Pokemon trainer, Squirtle especially. I get caught in everything.
Well, sure, but your experiences don't change other people's, or the core game mechanics.
The vast majority of players who win agree that peach isn't a very good character.

If you think she's middle tier, good for you.
Don't make it out to be fact, or some holy crusade that you're on.

You were saying how you disliked how people were so set in their arguments that they couldn't see past them - you were trying to force your opinion on to us when we were just presenting our points.

relaaax.
 

randomae

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Well, sure, but your experiences don't change other people's, or the core game mechanics.
The vast majority of players who win agree that peach isn't a very good character.

If you think she's middle tier, good for you.
Don't make it out to be fact, or some holy crusade that you're on.

You were saying how you disliked how people were so set in their arguments that they couldn't see past them - you were trying to force your opinion on to us when we were just presenting our points.

relaaax.
He just wants people to stop being idiots. You don't see people going in captain falcons thread saying that the cap'n is a homo.... ok bad example.. Point is if you have nothing to contribute GTFO!
 

SleepyK

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If anything, his super-heated argument that has little to do with the character itself made him look like an idiot. DoH and Cort, both very experienced peach users, just posted what they discovered and what is generally agreed upon. Master Peach just went on to talk about... well... how much he likes peach. That's not a very solid point if he's trying to prove that peach is anything better than potentially low-mid tier. Granted, in his experience, peach serves him well, but that doesn't prove anything.

Also, if you want to put pictures in your sig, you have to host them somewhere else, like photobucket, and post the link like this


there's also an option if you use the advanced post thingy.
 

randomae

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Also, if you want to put pictures in your sig, you have to host them somewhere else, like photobucket, and post the link like this


there's also an option if you use the advanced post thingy.
I already tried that. At the bottom of my screen it notates some options that i am not allowed as of yet. Is there a certain point after you sign up here that you get that "privilage"? lol

Also i disagree with that cort was saying. If he thinks that peach will be of no use ever then he is forgetting that in the beginning or melee people didn't know what (insert cool peach advanced technique here) was. Now that she was nerfed along with every other character he wants to hate on peach for fun. Like i said before if people don't want to contribute like they used to then they don't belong here. That is the end of this conversation.

Note: any further argument will just be stupid. (so don't ANYONE argue) ; )
 

Master Peach

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If anything, his super-heated argument that has little to do with the character itself made him look like an idiot. DoH and Cort, both very experienced peach users, just posted what they discovered and what is generally agreed upon. Master Peach just went on to talk about... well... how much he likes peach. That's not a very solid point if he's trying to prove that peach is anything better than potentially low-mid tier. Granted, in his experience, peach serves him well, but that doesn't prove anything.

Also, if you want to put pictures in your sig, you have to host them somewhere else, like photobucket, and post the link like this


there's also an option if you use the advanced post thingy.
Let me honestly say During this argument I was never angry to the point where my head comes of. I'm just really annoyed is all.

Another thing, I'm am not posting this because I love Peach. As I've said, Peach works for me, I like her character, she fits my playing style. That's all.

Lastly I'm not forcing my opinion on you, that's just how your taking it. All I'm saying is that We're here trying to find strategies for s character to make her better and then we're invaded by People that don't agree with us, and all they ever say is Peach suck. C.F sucks to but you don't see me in the C.F Area talking about that nonstop. This keeps happening. Why are people trying to start a war with us. We never did anything to you. If you have nothing to contribute go somewhere where you can. Stop spamming our forum please. That's all I want. I never came here with the intention to argue. I'm just sick of the spam. Take it somewhere else.
 

SleepyK

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okay, so DoH pointed out that this tactic doesn't change much, and then you got all upset.
You have to accept and acknowledge your character's strengths and flaws before you can improve on them instead of pushing them aside as things to be disregarded due to future potential.

You're not some social clique ; we're all smashers here. you've got to calm down about it. If you didn't have the intention to argue, there was no real need to in the first place.

And yeah, i guess you gotta get some more posts, randomae.

Cort is definitely not hating on peach for fun... that doesn't even make sense, lol.
 

randomae

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okay, so DoH pointed out that this tactic doesn't change much, and then you got all upset.
You have to accept and acknowledge your character's strengths and flaws before you can improve on them instead of pushing them aside as things to be disregarded due to future potential.

You're not some social clique ; we're all smashers here. you've got to calm down about it. If you didn't have the intention to argue, there was no real need to in the first place.

And yeah, i guess you gotta get some more posts, randomae.

Cort is definitely not hating on peach for fun... that doesn't even make sense, lol.
no one wants to stop arguing.. :urg:
 

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C.F sucks to but you don't see me in the C.F Area talking about that nonstop.
Because the CF players have already come to terms with that and are finding ways around it?

Maybe?

Would you wanna go ahead and show me where I was ever personally disrespectful to anyone in my discussion on the Peach boards?
Uh yeah when you posted saying you didn't see the game I won as Peach you disrespected me and gave me great shame i tell ya huwhat
 

SleepyK

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lol, jupiter, that's where uhhh, Tsquared is, isn't it?

Falco seems worse to me, and i mained falco in melee.

he's different, but no longer top tier.
 

Master Peach

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okay, so DoH pointed out that this tactic doesn't change much, and then you got all upset.
You have to accept and acknowledge your character's strengths and flaws before you can improve on them instead of pushing them aside as things to be disregarded due to future potential.

You're not some social clique ; we're all smashers here. you've got to calm down about it. If you didn't have the intention to argue, there was no real need to in the first place.

And yeah, i guess you gotta get some more posts, randomae.

Cort is definitely not hating on peach for fun... that doesn't even make sense, lol.
Ok my friend let's look at DoH's Post shall we?

This isn't gamebreaking enough to affect tiers. She's still a terrible character.

You guys get excited over nothing.


No one used M2 in melee because he was terrible. High level tournaments generally had representation from a few space animals, a couple of marths and peaches, and a climbers and a falcon...and rarely, a jigglypuff. everything else was garbage and couldn't compete. Just because peach can awkwardly space herself doesn't mean she'll move up, because she still can't kill and her recovery is nerfed.
As you can see from DoH's Post I highlighting the problem Areas in that Post in Bold.

1) DoH comes in and already makes a judgment on Peach on where she'll stand on the Tier List. In the Beginning of this No one was concerned about this. All they thought about was how they could apply it to their gameplay or would it be even useful.

2) Terrible, Horrible, suck, ****, garbage, etc. Almost every Peach player here is tired of hearing that all the time. The same word repeats and repeats and repeats. We're not hear to put down anyone. So why is he here saying something that is irrelevant and we heard before. Is he trying to tell us his opinion or a fact. I'm confused by the way he's saying it.

3) If he was here to help us he would tell us about Peach's flaws and how we can improve them to make her better. People always come here and say something negative that can't help us get any better with Peach. And for that fact they Don't want to help us because they always say crap. If they really wanted to help us they would stop with the negative comments say something useful about Peach's flaws so we can improve.

The one person I know that has helped us a lot is Yuna (What Yuna really!? I thought all he said about Peach we're bad things.) Because Yuna was so persistent to say all these negative thing about Peach NikoK Dark.Pch and some others worked on their game to make Peach better and prove him wrong.Yuna has help us greatly even though all his stuff was Negative.

All people are doing now is saying nonsense and Poisoning our forum. And then people want us to calm down because we're trying to defend our forum. This needs to stop. We want peach to get better and we can't do that if People won't help. So after this. If I find any Post that isn't relevant for the betterment of Peach in this Area I'm gonna report it. This thread use to be a area for the possibility of Spacing with Peach, But now it's battle scared for all nonsense and crap.
 

SleepyK

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Ok my friend let's look at DoH's Post shall we?



As you can see from DoH's Post I highlighting the problem Areas in that Post in Bold.

1) DoH comes in and already makes a judgment on Peach on where she'll stand on the Tier List. In the Beginning of this No one was concerned about this. All they thought about was how they could apply it to their gameplay or would it be even useful.

2) Terrible, Horrible, suck, ****, garbage, etc. Almost every Peach player here is tired of hearing that all the time. The same word repeats and repeats and repeats. We're not hear to put down anyone. So why is he here saying something that is irrelevant and we heard before. Is he trying to tell us his opinion or a fact. I'm confused by the way he's saying it.

3) If he was here to help us he would tell us about Peach's flaws and how we can improve them to make her better. People always come here and say something negative that can't help us get any better with Peach. And for that fact they Don't want to help us because they always say crap. If they really wanted to help us they would stop with the negative comments say something useful about Peach's flaws so we can improve.

The one person I know that has helped us a lot is Yuna (What Yuna really!? I thought all he said about Peach we're bad things.) Because Yuna was so persistent to say all these negative thing about Peach NikoK Dark.Pch and some others worked on their game to make Peach better and prove him wrong.Yuna has help us greatly even though all his stuff was Negative.

All people are doing now is saying nonsense and Poisoning our forum. And then people want us to calm down because we're trying to defend our forum. This needs to stop. We want peach to get better and we can't do that if People won't help. So after this. If I find any Post that isn't relevant for the betterment of Peach in this Area I'm gonna report it. This thread use to be a area for the possibility of Spacing with Peach, But now it's battle scared for all nonsense and crap.
*sigh*, you've also made a ...
aw, you know what, nevermind. Arguing obviously won't work since you're dead set in your opinions to the degree of near obsession. whatevs. people like you are poisoning our forum with your overly serious attitudes, generalizations, snapping at people, and general thickheadedness.

Yeah, did you play any melee, randomae? or halo? lol. I hear jupiter is really nice.
 

randomae

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i played melee. i never played competitively unless it was with friends. i turned to the internet to win our last tournament and realized i had alot to learn. lol i owned everybody at out little friendly tournament though.
 

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*sigh*, you've also made a ...
aw, you know what, nevermind. Arguing obviously won't work since you're dead set in your opinions to the degree of near obsession. whatevs. people like you are poisoning our forum with your overly serious attitudes, generalizations, snapping at people, and general thickheadedness.

Yeah, did you play any melee, randomae? or halo? lol. I hear jupiter is really nice.
No really it's fine. I just wanted to finish with that statement. And Whatever you think of me is fine. I don't really care. People on smashboards say a lot of things. You guys were talking about something right. Something to do with Melee correct?
 

randomae

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masterpeach: i want to play you sometime

yea i was saying that i learned my peach from reading on here and from the videos of xif. he had my favorite style.
 

Master Peach

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masterpeach: i want to play you sometime

yea i was saying that i learned my peach from reading on here and from the videos of xif. he had my favorite style.
Yeah. I want to play a lot of People here, but I have no Wifi connection which Sucks. :urg:

I'll play you when I get a Wifi connector.

I learned how to play Peach from Multiple Peach's. Mike G, XIF, and some other Peaches from Tourneys. Dark.Pch showed me some stuff to. I say my Peach is Fairly strong. I wish I had more time to make her better before Brawl came out. I got better in every tourney I entered.
 

SleepyK

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Lol, Mike G and Xif, GA peaches represent~

even though xif was FL~
and Mike G was NY~

I've had to play Xif at almost every tourney i've been to, lol ;-;

You guys have seen the Xif vs Mike G matches that i uploaded, right :D?
 

randomae

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Lol, Mike G and Xif, GA peaches represent~

even though xif was FL~
and Mike G was NY~

I've had to play Xif at almost every tourney i've been to, lol ;-;

You guys have seen the Xif vs Mike G matches that i uploaded, right :D?
yea those are sick. they both are just so good its incredible.
 

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Dark.Pch, what have you been placing in NYC weeklies? Didn't you get deadlast last time? Woops.
One tourny nearly a Month ago Cort. And thats the only one I been in. And getting use to peach cause she is a pain to use and win with. I'm much better now and I'm going to a weeklie 2morrow to give this another shot.

Now if you wanna be a jerk and attack me like you did here, then be my guest. Its just a video game. So your cold remarks to me wont bring a single tear to my eye. What I am sick and tired of is hearing the same **** over and over. "peach is nerfed, cant do **** in tournaments, yadda yadda" Hearing this crap over and over. Give it a rest already.

So go ahead Cort. Keep attacking me. I dont know what I did to you but go on. If your really a jerk throw more stuff like that at me. This you say that remark cause I stated I was the best brawl Peach in N.Y? let me fix this for you. Peach around here (in the five boroughs, say I'm the Best Peach they played thus far. But also said that statement would need to be put to the test at a weeklie. So I'm gonna give it a shot.

So any cold remarks When I done nothing to you? Go ahead Cort. embarrass me some more. And to think I was on your side with understanding your point while stating mines. Seriously, was that needed man?
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oneangrysquirrel = " Vanz (lols NY's only real good peach)"

Your an idiot. try harder to make me feel like crap, cause its not working. Play me and I'll show you your place. I deal with many losers like you and I had to just beat the **** out of them. And now they dont say ****. I be more than happy to shut your azz up.
 

mcnichoj

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Don't feel like reading whole topic right now, but does anyone have any combo vids up with this short-float?
 

randomae

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Does anybody know a way to upload that picture to show the whole picture? Or does anybody know how to shrink it while keeping some quality (paint was no good)?
 

SleepyK

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get rid of that line of text above your picture. that should do it, i think..
 

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ok Finally someone makes sense. I understand what your saying, and appreciate your input on this.

Even though you may feel that Peach isn't good any more you still have to remember this the only the beginning. If will take a lot of time and determination to make peach better. I think she has the potential to be better than want everyone thinks. Is that so wrong? I'm not saying Peach god, I'm not saying Peach can win every tourney she enters, But you guys are coming here and trying to put us down when we're trying to rise up. We are full of optimism and strength, and we are putting that towards Peach and her development. Peach is going through an evolution, and We are guiding her through it.

Another thing to take into account is that it takes a lot of time to develop and strengthen a character weaknesses. We have only begun and we can only get better. Peach might not be able to win the first few tourneys but with time comes improvement. Later on down the road you may see Peach winning a couple of tourneys. That's my hope for the future.

I really can't stand it when People like Cort who think they know everything Even the future! (sarcasm) Comes on here and tries to tell us what's what. We know our limitations and we're trying to improve upon them. I don't think it's against the law to do so.

Oh and to guy who said I watch Peach Porn,

1) Grow up
2) Your a perv just for bringing that up.
3) Your post is spam and is being reported.

Thank you for your time.
soo... you do watch peach porn?
 

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One tourny nearly a Month ago Cort. And thats the only one I been in. And getting use to peach cause she is a pain to use and win with. I'm much better now and I'm going to a weeklie 2morrow to give this another shot.

Now if you wanna be a jerk and attack me like you did here, then be my guest. Its just a video game. So your cold remarks to me wont bring a single tear to my eye. What I am sick and tired of is hearing the same **** over and over. "peach is nerfed, cant do **** in tournaments, yadda yadda" Hearing this crap over and over. Give it a rest already.

So go ahead Cort. Keep attacking me. I dont know what I did to you but go on. If your really a jerk throw more stuff like that at me. This you say that remark cause I stated I was the best brawl Peach in N.Y? let me fix this for you. Peach around here (in the five boroughs, say I'm the Best Peach they played thus far. But also said that statement would need to be put to the test at a weeklie. So I'm gonna give it a shot.

So any cold remarks When I done nothing to you? Go ahead Cort. embarrass me some more. And to think I was on your side with understanding your point while stating mines. Seriously, was that needed man?
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oneangrysquirrel = " Vanz (lols NY's only real good peach)"

Your an idiot. try harder to make me feel like crap, cause its not working. Play me and I'll show you your place. I deal with many losers like you and I had to just beat the **** out of them. And now they dont say ****. I be more than happy to shut your azz up.
How am I attacking you? I heard you placed dead last at a Brawl weekly and obviously you used Peach, how is using fact in a discussion about how good Peach is an attack? What if you placed 2nd to last, would that still be attacking you?

You know you can't really expect to know what you're talking about with characters, turn around and then place horribly at tournaments using them. I'm using evidence of tournament results in this discussion and if you think that's attacking you well... get over it. That or stop placing horribly at tournaments, step it uppppp....
 

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What I quoted of you I felt as an attack to me, everything else I did not care about. Come one now. Anyone would have took that as lashing at someone If you said that to them, and the way you said it too.
 
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