PDP and Nintendo partner up for Gamecube Classic Controller

[Empyrean]

EDIT: Hoping it looks something like this:

YES PLEASE!! An additional button would be pretty cool. Although I'd rather the C-stick stay the same.

 

[R0Y]

The WiiU just doesn't do wired controllers, chief. Nowhere to plug them into. You'd need a different WiiU hardware built to accomodate wired controllers. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Nope, if the Wii U had the firmware update for it, controllers plugged in via USB should be able to send data that way like PS3/PS4, Xbox 360/XB1. Nintendo doesn't do that.

 

[itsaxelol]

so, why havent we taken to twitter or an online petition about updating the wii u to allow wired controllers? if this really is going to be a big deal during tournaments. why dont we make an attempt before the game releases?

 

[LancerStaff]

The WiiU just doesn't do wired controllers, chief. Nowhere to plug them into. You'd need a different WiiU hardware built to accomodate wired controllers. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Only option I could see would be developing a USB-to-Multi-Tap add-on in conjunction with wired controllers, but I'm not sure how responsive the old multi-tap add-ons were for SNES and PS1... I only used one once for a multiplayer session of Final Doom or something for PS1, like, way back in 1997 or 1999 or something.

They've patched in support for a wired adapter for connecting to the internet, so support for a wired controller isn't impossible.

Anyway, it's a Classic Controller, not a Pro. So you'll have to plug into a Wiimote and have to lug it around. Don't even get me started on the Wiimote's battery life. Then there's potential for shorts in the cord, (Seems to be common in Classics, but I can't exactly prove it.) Wiimotes are sketchy when it comes to connecting, Classics don't support rumble, broken Wiimote ports...

Seems to be a ton of trouble for clinging to a decades old controller with a poor Dpad. I can understand not wanting to change controllers, but there's a much simpler option in the Pro Controller, and it's practically the same thing with a few extra buttons.

 

[Muster]

Seems to be a ton of trouble for clinging to a decades old controller with a poor Dpad. I can understand not wanting to change controllers, but there's a much simpler option in the Pro Controller, and it's practically the same thing with a few extra buttons.

Better than manually unscrewing the pro controllers' battery port so you can connect it to another console


Also, lol on the poor dpad. Not like we're going to be using it much in smash.

 

[TheNin10doUltra]

This is great

 

[Aninymouse]

Nope, if the Wii U had the firmware update for it, controllers plugged in via USB should be able to send data that way like PS3/PS4, Xbox 360/XB1. Nintendo doesn't do that.

The WiiU has, like, 2 USB ports, if I remember correctly. You'd need at least 4 ports or a multi-tap add-on, like I said.

 

[8-peacock-8]

The WiiU has, like, 2 USB ports, if I remember correctly. You'd need at least 4 ports or a multi-tap add-on, like I said.

Three actually. The third is on the back though so it might as well only have two as far as controllers are concerned.

Also, why four? I doubt very many people will use wired set up outside of tournaments.

 

[mimgrim]

Three actually. The third is on the back though so it might as well only have two as far as controllers are concerned.

Also, why four? I doubt very many people will use wired set up outside of tournaments.

It has 2 in the back as well as 2 in the front, actually.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Hey guys just a warning:

It's still not wired 100% (USB wired) and PDP, while a fantastic company, sometimes makes stuff that sucks.

Don't be fooled by the hype train that hard.

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

I think I'm fine with my classic and pro controller. If I pic one up it'll be because I like the character decals.

Three actually. The third is on the back though so it might as well only have two as far as controllers are concerned.

Also, why four? I doubt very many people will use wired set up outside of tournaments.

Teams.

 

[Deleted member]

THEY LISTENED, THANK YOU BASED NINTENDO.

And if it does suck, we could always try this beast. I've heard good things about it.

 

[ErenJager]

My wii u pro controller plugs into my wii u...
That's how it charges?

Am I missing something?

 

[mimgrim]

Hey guys just a warning:

It's still not wired 100% (USB wired) and PDP, while a fantastic company, sometimes makes stuff that sucks.

Don't be fooled by the hype train that hard.

The reason I think it will end up being well made is because Nintendo is actually publishing it, this effectively will make it a first party controller.

 

[Aninymouse]

Three actually. The third is on the back though so it might as well only have two as far as controllers are concerned.

Also, why four? I doubt very many people will use wired set up outside of tournaments.

Because I can't see Nintendo making a controller and pushing an OS update to cut a 4-player game in half. There are already more controller options for WiiU than any other console, as far as I know... Why would they create another exception to the paradigm? "Sorry, if you buy these controllers, you can only use up to two of them at a time"? That's not Nintendo's style.

Look, this is all grossly off-topic, anyway. We're way off in the weeds of a hypothetical reality in which a wired controller is being developed for WiiU. Such a thing does not exist. What are you guys going to do about it? Whine? Deal with it? Those are basically your options.

I think wired controllers would be nice, but that's just a pipe dream. There is no evidence such a thing will ever exist.

EDIT: @ mimgrim says there's 4 ports; 2 front, 2 back. My WiiU is miles away from me atm, so I had no way to check for myself. If he's right, then there's nothing stopping Nintendo from making a USB wired controller. But that still doesn't change the fact that they aren't making one right now.

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

My wii u pro controller plugs into my wii u...
That's how it charges?

Am I missing something?

That's only for charging from what I understand. It doesn't actually turn it into a wired controller.

 

[Snakeyes]

It would be awesome if this wasn't just a one-time thing for Smash. The shape of the GC controller and its asymmetrical analog setup is very comfortable, and I'd love to see PDP improve on the original design to bring the GC pad up to modern standards.

Just think about it: two bigger bumpers, tweaked triggers, a better D-pad, two clickable analogs and you've got the perfect controller.

 

[ErenJager]

That's only for charging from what I understand. It doesn't actually turn it into a wired controller.

I'm guessing wired vs wireless means a lag or delay?

 

[Morbi]

So it is seriously happening? I suppose that is good news, I was just going to get the Wii U Pro controller, but I might actually get this. I am still a little hesitant though; I would feel more comfortable if it was a 1st party controller.

 

[8-peacock-8]

The reason I think it will end up being well made is because Nintendo is actually publishing it, this effectively will make it a first party controller.

Agreed

It's still not wired 100% (USB wired)

I think we all know that. They do say that it acts as a Classic Controller.

THEY LISTENED, THANK YOU BASED NINTENDO.

And if it does suck, we could always try this beast. I've heard good things about it.

That's the one i have.

Teams.

There's competitive team battles? i didn't know that. I completely forgot that was a thing in Smash for some reason also. (Team battles)

EDITED what i said because saying "competitive Teams" and not "competitive team battles" makes me sound extremely stupid.

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

I'm guessing wired vs wireless means a lag or delay?

Yes but that's not the main problem. It also means interference form other wireless devices, which is not a good thing in a tournament setting, and it means that to switch consoles everyones gonna have to sync up their controller whenever they switch machines, and even though it's much easier to do now, it's still far more teidous than just plugging it in.

There's competitive teams? i didn't know that. I completely forgot that was a thing in Smash for some reason also. (Team battles)

I don't know if it's a big thing, but I'm pretty sure it's still a thing. Usually as a side event.

 

[mimgrim]

So it is seriously happening? I suppose that is good news, I was just going to get the Wii U Pro controller, but I might actually get this. I am still a little hesitant though; I would feel more comfortable if it was a 1st party controller.

It's being published by Nintendo.

That alone makes it first party lol.

 

[Morbi]

It's being published by Nintendo.

That alone makes it first party lol.

Was the Gamecube controller manufactured the same way? Did a third-party company actually create the controller for Nintendo to publish?

 

[mimgrim]

Was the Gamecube controller manufactured the same way? Did a third-party company actually create the controller for Nintendo to publish?

I don't think so.

But I would say since Nintendo is publishing it, PDPD will have more money to work with possibly and Nintendo could give parts and help with making it stable is a good possiblilty.

 

[RascalTheCharizard]

Classics don't support rumble

I've always considered rumble bad anyway. It's distracting. I'm surprised that anyone actually wants it.

 

[Snakeyes]

Speaking of the GC controller, I've always wanted to try out the prototype button layout:

Notice the B button's different shape? I have a feeling it would be even more comfortable than what we ended up getting.

 

[Morbi]

I don't think so.

But I would say since Nintendo is publishing it, PDPD will have more money to work with possibly and Nintendo could give parts and help with making it stable is a good possiblilty.

I suppose that is accurate enough, I feel more comfortable already.

 

[RascalTheCharizard]

Speaking of the GC controller, I've always wanted to try out the prototype button layout:

Notice the B button's different shape? I have a feeling it would be even more comfortable than what we ended up getting.

The B button is the same colour as the N64's controller. All my nostalgia.

Edit: So are A and Start lol

 

[ErenJager]

Yes but that's not the main problem. It also means interference form other wireless devices, which is not a good thing in a tournament setting, and it means that to switch consoles everyones gonna have to sync up their controller whenever they switch machines, and even though it's much easier to do now, it's still far more teidous than just plugging it in.

Oh so in other words, just another non-issue for filthy casuals like myself.

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

Oh so in other words, just another non-issue for filthy casuals like myself.

Lol yea basically. The only thing you probably need to worry about is if all the batteries mysteriously died at the same time.

 

[BluePikmin11]

This is pretty shocking to say the least, this is awesome, I might actually buy this if it's at retail.

 

[Johnknight1]

>Wireless only

Nope, not buying it.

I'll just buy unofficial USB port stuff to play the GameCube controller, or wait until such a USB wired port option is available for tournament play.

Until the unofficial fan made mods come, this is (mostly) worthless to me and all people who look to play in tournaments and with a giant group of people at a smash fest.

 

[Deleted member]

I didn't think this would actually happen, but now here we are, with a GC controller being made for Smash 4. Guess that shows me not to write something off as impossible. (and tons of other people who said we wouldn't get a Wii U GC controller, but that's for another time)

 

[Johnknight1]

i'm not sure why people are complaining about it, more options the better.

See: no wired play support. That's why we are disappointed.

I think people fail to understand that Wii U uses the latest Bluetooth technology (4.0) vs what Wii/PS3/360 used. I've owned my Wii U for a year and a half now and have never had an issue with input delay which seems to be people's concern.

Still a cause for concern because of frequency mix ups at tournaments with more than say 20 controllers, it gets worse with over 80 controllers, and we could have another Tekken EVO Grand Finals disaster on our hands at tournaments. And yes, it does still lag.

Here's the problem: it's still not a wired controller.

Zing, zing, zing. WE HAVE A WINNER!!!

The fact it can't be wired (as in goes into a USB port and has basically no lag and allows no frequency mix ups) and wireless like most/all the controllers on the PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, and Xbox One is a joke. A FREAKING JOKE!!!

It's 2014 Nintendo, not 2004.

Catch up with the times, and stop being a FailUre... U.

 

[ScottyWK]

I've never had an issue with wireless controllers mixing up frequencies or lagging, so I don't understand the big deal with wire/wired.

 

[Morbi]

I've never had an issue with wireless controllers mixing up frequencies or lagging, so I don't understand the big deal with wire/wired.

Not "lag" lag; input lag.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input_lag

It isn't really a big deal unless you are playing competitively to be honest.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

Well, I'm already very used with the Pro Controller and GamePad,.. not gonna buy, but is cool for the rest of people, I guess.

 

[Johnknight1]

I've never had an issue with wireless controllers mixing up frequencies or lagging, so I don't understand the big deal with wire/wired.

For any smashfest or tournament with say more than 20 players, it becomes a huge issue. That's why it matters to me and other smashfest and tournament players. We don't want that to happen. Quite frankly, a USB wired option fix is easy.

All the other consoles from the 360, X1, PS3, and PS4 on have this.

 

[RascalTheCharizard]

Not "lag" lag; input lag.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input_lag

It isn't really a big deal unless you are playing competitively to be honest.

It isn't a big deal for me, since I'm used to it. But I can see why this would be detrimental to most players.

 

[Morbi]

For any smashfest or tournament with say more than 20 players, it becomes a huge issue. That's why it matters to me and other smashfest and tournament players. We don't want that to happen. Quite frankly, a USB wired option fix is easy.

All the other consoles from the 360, X1, PS3, and PS4 on have this.

Precisely, it is the standard. The fix is very affordable and reasonable.

It isn't a big deal for me, since I'm used to it. But I can see why this would be detrimental to most players.

Same; the concern does really apply to me either.