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Who is asking? No fanbase is mature and they all complain about patches like this (especially when they are ninja patches). Adapting won't bring those lost ATs back nor will it make Nintendo not continue the path of cracking down on things not because they break the game, but because some scrub who can't even handle rolling complained or because it deviates from Sakurai's grand Smash plan.
See, this is what I'm talking about. You see no future for this game already just because of some changes that this patch brought? This is what it's called overreacting and it's silly when you exaggerate the consequences that this brought. You don't even know what kind of path Nintendo will continue with this updates nor how the future of the scene will unfold specially when it's off to a good start.
Lol calm down mommy, this game just isn't for me, they haven't let the meta game develop and I'm just uninterested. Don't get your panties in a bunch.
Oh don't worry, whether you ultimately decide to trade the game or not is of no concern to nobody else.
Removing DACUS, toss canceling, and Greninja's stuff is very telling of what kind of patches this game will get as long as Nintendo provides support. With that in mind, what's the point in adapting and exploring new options if next patch will kill it all? Do you enjoy an already simple game becoming even more simplified? Then sure, keep on playing. But not everyone enjoys that and no, that doesn't make them less of a person or a whiner. They just don't enjoy Smash 4's direction. Which was inevitable.
Not liking the clear direction a game is going is a stupid reason for giving up on a game? What is a good reason then?
Again, you are overreacting. I'm sure removing that stuff was kinda painful but disregarding it this early just shows how close-minded and (yes) whiny people get when they realize they have to find new ways to adapt. In the end it's very trivial, but hey people need to make a storm in a glass of water.
It's not about "hur I don't want to adapt". It's about the fact that if you adapt the way Sakurai and friends don't want you to, that method gets axed. It's the fact that not all ways of "adapting" to the game will keep you enjoying the game. And if you can't enjoy the game anymore, why play anymore?
The reasoning is that this game isn't for me. Might wanna check yourself.
What was the dramatic change that made the game feel less enjoyable to you? They nerfed the characters who were already proving to be strong and that as a whole helps entirely.
This
[citation needed]
Vectoring was a weaker DI, it did NOT stop combos, airdodging out of tumble is what interrupt combos, since most of them happen in the air.
This is really wrong. Not the definition of a glitch at all. And not what Sakurai has gone on record saying.
i love this so much god bless youoh boy it's patch from nintendo! i wonder what they did....
How the hell is it "disinformation"?
Trying to troll, just ignore their posts.
DI doesn't allow you to completely control the knock back you take, DI is for directional influence, never has DI allowed you to control knockback. Read StrongBad's article on it.
I know what it does, but it was proven that it is in fact weaker than regular DI and it didn't affect combos aside from a few strings, like Mario's utilt combo. Anyway, someone said that Vectoring is now out and DI is back again, but I can't find any confirmation about this . 3.
Sweet bait man. Here's a reply.
Because it's incorrect statements being purported as fact. Vectoring is still in the game, DI is not in the game, and almost every character received changes that are some combination of buffs and nerfs. It isn't just winning characters that got hit and it isn't just poor ones that got boons.
tl;drI honestly hate how they are removing all of these ATs from Smash 4.
The developers intended are limited and flawed, Smash Bros isn't why we play Smash, its because not only is a celebration of most Nintendo things, being able to have parties and pit Pit (lol) against the likes of Mewtwo (who is on the way), but its a competitive fighter with competitive, quirky, unique, unlimited gameplay, and let me elaborate on that.
Competitive: All of the Smash games except for Brawl all have competitive value. Most of the characters are very balanced amoungst the 3 games (64, Melee, Smash 4), they are all fast paced (even Smash 4, but not to the same degree), they all maintain the "rules" option to mend a competitive ruleset, they all have few viable stages, however those few are good and diverse enough to keep players content, and their are combos in the 3 games.
Quirky: The stuff like DKs or DDD's expressions for example, and the fact that it isn't violent like most games. Smash in general is a lighthearted game, and hopefully Japanese people like Sakurai continue to be the main category of people whom design Smash, because if over here in the USA (where i live) or Canada, etc. got a hold of Smash, then the entire project could potentially fall apart.
Unique: There is no official game like Smash... besides... THAT.. game...
ANYWAYS... from the non flat and linear stages, the ledge mechanics, the ATs and Exploits (which are in all games but are different for each), And most of all, the high-flying launch power combat, Smash doesn't have it all, and that's a good thing, Smash doesn't have, linear stages, lack of ledges, or poor ATs and Exploits, You don't need it all to be the best fighting game around.
Besides, where am i to find Mewtwo and Pit in
Street Fighter 428 Battle Of Champions XD Edition?
Unlimited: I am going to be honest, if Smash were just as the developers intended, it would be very boring, and i would probably be a casual gamer (i am currently competitive). As a programmer, i can obviously create and modify games, so i did a test you could call it. What i did, was i extracted Melee's code line for line, variable for variable, binary for binary, and uplifted all glitches and exploits from the game, any scrapped character files (no, not any scrapped character's files, scrapped character files, there is a difference the latter being an old Mario file for example.) i brought back as a clone character, i did this by reverse engineering a saved moveset file, all i did was undo the save, which is possible. This took about 1-3 years to complete, the result? a slow... yes, Melee, slow, boring, bland, linear, pathetic, pitiful, nauseating, TRASH, TRASH, TRASH!
The developer's intents are flawed, and the path they are taking now is ruining the game, Nintendo needs to add more ATs and Exploits into Smash 4, or this game could be worst than even Brawl.
That's too long for you? didn't you attend kindergarten?
No, it means that they are going to fix anything that hampers gameplay. Unbalanced techs that disrupt risk/reward balancing and the decision-making process in a way that limits gameplay potential are objective flaws that should be fixed.
Sorry for the double post, but I couldn't let this one slide.I honestly hate how they are removing all of these ATs from Smash 4.
The developers intended are limited and flawed, Smash Bros isn't why we play Smash, its because not only is a celebration of most Nintendo things, being able to have parties and pit Pit (lol) against the likes of Mewtwo (who is on the way), but its a competitive fighter with competitive, quirky, unique, unlimited gameplay, and let me elaborate on that.
Competitive: All of the Smash games except for Brawl all have competitive value. Most of the characters are very balanced amoungst the 3 games (64, Melee, Smash 4), they are all fast paced (even Smash 4, but not to the same degree), they all maintain the "rules" option to mend a competitive ruleset, they all have few viable stages, however those few are good and diverse enough to keep players content, and their are combos in the 3 games.
Quirky: The stuff like DKs or DDD's expressions for example, and the fact that it isn't violent like most games. Smash in general is a lighthearted game, and hopefully Japanese people like Sakurai continue to be the main category of people whom design Smash, because if over here in the USA (where i live) or Canada, etc. got a hold of Smash, then the entire project could potentially fall apart.
Unique: There is no official game like Smash... besides... THAT.. game...
ANYWAYS... from the non flat and linear stages, the ledge mechanics, the ATs and Exploits (which are in all games but are different for each), And most of all, the high-flying launch power combat, Smash doesn't have it all, and that's a good thing, Smash doesn't have, linear stages, lack of ledges, or poor ATs and Exploits, You don't need it all to be the best fighting game around.
Besides, where am i to find Mewtwo and Pit in
Street Fighter 428 Battle Of Champions XD Edition?
Unlimited: I am going to be honest, if Smash were just as the developers intended, it would be very boring, and i would probably be a casual gamer (i am currently competitive). As a programmer, i can obviously create and modify games, so i did a test you could call it. What i did, was i extracted Melee's code line for line, variable for variable, binary for binary, and uplifted all glitches and exploits from the game, any scrapped character files (no, not any scrapped character's files, scrapped character files, there is a difference the latter being an old Mario file for example.) i brought back as a clone character, i did this by reverse engineering a saved moveset file, all i did was undo the save, which is possible. This took about 1-3 years to complete, the result? a slow... yes, Melee, slow, boring, bland, linear, pathetic, pitiful, nauseating, TRASH, TRASH, TRASH!
The developer's intents are flawed, and the path they are taking now is ruining the game, Nintendo needs to add more ATs and Exploits into Smash 4, or this game could be worst than even Brawl.
i have no idea what you're trying to say
