Paper Mario Mafia: Day 4 finally ends! Luigi wins!

[#HBC | J]

Merlon, Town Fortune Teller.

It's needs a bit of an explanation especially with my play but I got info because of it because its a different variation of Fortune Teller.

 

[Pierce7d]

Proceed to explain.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

 

[Pierce7d]

Marshy/Frozen, if it's not too much trouble from your phone, tell me what an ordinary fortune teller is supposed to be.

 

[#HBC | J]

Well basically I crumbed that I was BP the entire game so I was able to avoid the NK and able to do more investigations. I basically get to guess who I think will die during the night so N1 I picked Adumb because it was obvious he was going to die from the way Seph was waving the gun at him all D1.

Then if I guess right, I am able to get an investigative or protecting ability. I choose investigative and I got a DayCop ability which I used on Bardull to clear him from any shenanigans that could happen later in the game if someone tried to bring up D1 w.r.t. him and left a crumb of Bardull being my strongest town read to Marshy within that Tier-list post that relates to the players and also moreso in my first post of the day with Marshy/Bardull being obv-town.

Then last night I visited Seph to guess his fortune and he did end up dying. Reason I choose him is that he was obviously never going to die during the day phase of the game and was just way too obv-town. Kary had also alluded that he was going to be protecting one of Fmarsh/Bardull/Pierce so it would make sense to go after the one person Kary had ended up leaving out and also mafia wouldn't waste a NK on Kary just because he has a PR in my mind.

I guessed right and got a protective out of it. (One-shot BP to be exact)

When I saw in my role pm that I could get a protective out of my guesses, I immediately started crumbing BP and made myself a mafia's worst nightmare to target because it would be too much of a risk to test a bluff on a BP crumber when I was getting pretty blatant with it after a while.

 

[#HBC | J]

I knew it, in a different sense.

Here's also a crumb about knowing Seph was the one to die haha. ;P

 

[#HBC | J]

We should probably do a mass-claim at this point, what harm could it bring?

 

[Pierce7d]

Marshy, do you believe that?

 

[Pierce7d]

I have been crumbing every other post. If people don't know what my role is by now, then they don't deserve to know, ROFL.

 

[#HBC | J]

*Wasn't following along*

Haha, time to go look then.

 

[Pierce7d]

J, you should be able to tell just from this last page what my role is.

 

[#HBC | J]

Tracker or Watcher?

 

[Pierce7d]

Yes. I thought you might be the cop, so I checked you last night. And you visited Seph, and he died.

 

[Pierce7d]

I didn't really feel like guessing on all of our "we're going to hit these guys anyways" when I could potentially clear a power-townie. But then you visited Seph, and he died, so I can't clear you. I would've checked Marshy, but I can't target him while he's being Jailed I assume.

 

[#HBC | J]

See, I think my role was made to make up for the fact of a Mafia Ninja, because I have to be seen visiting the dead bodies in order to be right and Mafia Ninja can never be seen.

It's quite alright, Pierce. I know what you mean by feeling you had a Bingo on me. ;P But you essentially just cleared yourself in this entire mix-up so that's a plus haha.

 

[Pierce7d]

As it stands, there's obviously no way I can clear you now, and your spot in Lylo is compromised, though I'm gladly willing to keep you around a few more days.
Marshy, unless you've got a brillant power role, I'm gonna have to request that jailing.
J, if you're not full of ****, you'll WIFOM between me and Kary tonight, if we believe Kary.

 

[#HBC | J]

Plus you were semi-right, I was a sort of cop. ;P

 

[Pierce7d]

Considering your crumbs, I'd much sooner think cop before inventing "Fortune Teller"

 

[Pierce7d]

One question. Why didn't you egg on Seph to shoot Adumb to get a cleaner hit on your role? Were you that confident in Seph being one-shot vig and shooting Adumb?

 

[#HBC | J]

Haha, yeah, though I have been so many PRs in my days, this time I decided to be fun. I think I also made a Dungeons and Dragons mafia reference somewhere where I was a Fortune Teller in that game but no one in this game was in that game so it really was just a crumb for me. xD

See, that's the beauty of this FT thing, if I hit the person who is targetted, and they still don't die, I do get my FT because I guessed who was supposed to die correctly.

 

[#HBC | J]

One question. Why didn't you egg on Seph to shoot Adumb to get a cleaner hit on your role? Were you that confident in Seph being one-shot vig and shooting Adumb?

It was pretty obvious haha. I actually had debated on FT'ing one of Adumb/Bardull but then I recalled the deal Marshy+Seph had made and went with that. Seph wouldn't go back on his deal to Marshy, plus I know the guy extremely well outside of Mafia.

I wasn't confident in Seph being a one-shot, I was confident on him shooting though.

 

[Rajam]

Bardull. For the third time. Why? I want actual reasons, because everytime I've asked, you've ignored me, which makes me feel like its OMGUS.

@Marshy and Adum: Also why? J doesn't need to be asked because he's been an idiot about me the whole ****in game. Marshy, I know its not your style, but seriously, reasons. And adum, you should know better than that, or maybe you aren't as good at this game as I remember.

As for why I continue to like Bardull as a play, yes, my vote on him occured very soon after Seph asked me to switch. You will also recall it happened right after this:

Vote: Kary

John is the hardest player to read in Mafia history because he's always anti-town. He tries to contribute, but it ends up making him look suspicious because the content isn't really helpful. I did kind of like his vote on me however, although he does state that he's mindlessly voting for me since me mentions he doesn't remember making his RVS vote...so that detracts from any pressure the vote could have given. (John, you voted for Rajam in RVS, btw.) Ever since AT, I've pretty much always wanted John vigged. My sentiments don't change now...sorry John.

I repeat, I DO NOT LIKE THIS POST. Gives me bad feelings, which combined with earlier hollowness and uselessness, made me want to vote him. Getting Seph to shut up about it was a nice bonus.

As for said hollowness and uselessness, I know I did a read for it, maybe I didn't do an in depth post. Ill go either find it or make one now.

Ronike suddenly calls on J with all this rage from nowhere. It bothers me also that Ronike only demanded reasons from marshy (town read) but not from J and adumb (the last one confirmed scum). Note also that Ronike kinda "insulted" both J and adumb (as persons rather than players), but not marshy, neither BarDulL or Seph.

This quote also, in conjunction with the next one: (these two posts are consecutive)

Didn't post it, will have to make it. Also will have to wait for computer to finish rendering game for company, so I prolly wont start for a half hour or so, as it takes up a lot of processing power, which makes searches and page flipping a pain.

But, as for "flipping" my opinion on Bardull and Seph, Bar, I was never wholly comfortable with your play. Like you as a person, sure. But as a player? I stated from the start that I was somewhat uncomfortable with you. Then once I went back to read more carefully, I noticed you had posted less helpful content than Seph. Much less. Most of it was going after Kary for the joke (iirc, recall I cant easily check atm), buddying up with me and OS (especially OS, holy crap, I'll get the posts later), and other such nonsense. Kept it to myself until the post I quoted above, then I was just done with you, so I voted you, coincidentally getting an annoying Seph off my back.

As for Seph, yes I disliked him. As a person. And when you dislike a person, that colors your reads a lot easier than liking them. At least for me. Then I went back and did a read to maybe build a case. And I realized, despite being annoying and short about it, he was actually being very pro-town and posting a good bit of content. Thus I realized my dislike for him was on a personal level, and that I liked him as a player.

Will post more specifics on Dull later.

Makes me feel even better about BarDulL. The coloured part in which Ronike compares BarDulL's "contributions" with Seph is what convinces me of BarDulL-not-mafia. I think that if BarDulL were Ronike's scummate, Ronike would be much more comfortable to just simply call on BarDulL for not contributing, without contrasting with anyone, because he would know it's an actual scummy attribute, but the necessity to compare BarDulL with Seph's contributions makes me strongly think that it was because Ronike needed that "extra help" coming from the comparison to increase the strength of his point.

vote: J

I strongly consider the rest of the players town / not-mafia: marshy, BarDulL, Pierce, Chibo. Kary's claim is consistent with the crumb and hence John and J are left. I also strongly consider Seph's point that if adumb was sent to make N1's NKill then the remaining scum is likely someone "strong". J fits, John doesn't. With the lack of claims D1 I think this theory gains strenth too.

J, I want to know what clears John

 

[Pierce7d]

ugh, I hate when people claim roles that contain powers that are just subsets of Mafia powers. Mafia are bulletproof (except to Seph, LOL) and already know who is town.

Big props to you Seph, played a great game, and shot some scum dead.

LOL that means Adumb really did get double killed. Get ***** bro.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

j...why would you use it on john and not like rajam? man what the **** bro

so wait j you dont have a protection you are just bulletproof tonight?

pierce i dunno why youd get the protection tonight. you outed your role and wouldnt get to use it anyway. but whatever we can discuss this more later

 

[frozenmarsh751]

use it on bardull*

 

[#HBC | J]

No, I have a one-shot BP from now on.

Fmarsh, I pretty much used the same logic as Pierce and I find it funny we are cut from a similar cloth.

@Pierce: I really can't help what I claim haha.

Rajam, what exactly can I respond to that besides the "John" thing?

 

[#HBC | J]

Oh for those who have not caught on yet,

I still have one card up my sleeve, I'm saving for now.

I just gotta say I don't wanna reveal this now because it may change how the lynches go. I left one final crumb in toDay's Day phase.

 

[#HBC | J]

Bardull, can you please gimme a show and tell on your little thing you found on John? You first, then me please.

 

[#HBC | J]

Pierce, I still wanna know why John should go before Rajam.

 

[Pierce7d]

Oh yeah, jailer is not doc. Aight, scratch that. Mafia have no choice but to kill me tonight, so unless we lynch them toDay, then they will shoot me toNight. At this stage in the game, it very difficult for the remaining scum to live if I get to watch one of the few uncleared players not named J/Marshy/Bardull/Pierce and we also lynch someone dead.

If you're actually bulletproof, that means you watch me, then you watch Kary. If they hit Kary first, it's basically game over by process of elimination.

That also means that a jailed mafia cannot do a NK correct? So that clears Marshy, correct?

 

[Pierce7d]

J/Marshy/Bardull/Pierce/Kary

If we're believe those claims of Kary and J

 

[Pierce7d]

Also, John should go because he's more annoying, and Rajam seems to be doing Rajam hunting. Who has a reason that John should stay?

 

[frozenmarsh751]

whoa what the ****

pierce are you watcher and watched john or what?

 

[#HBC | J]

I have my reasons. I actually have more reason to keep John around then others.

Pierce, re-read my posts. There are two people who should be switched for the time being.

 

[BarDulL]

Bardull, can you please gimme a show and tell on your little thing you found on John? You first, then me please.

To be honest, I thought I remembered John saying "Sang is NOT going to be lynched today," but he actually said "Sang is NOT going to be quicklynched today," then continued to elaborate later on that he WAS ok with her lynch.

I have a question for you. Why did you want me to explain what I found first, considering I'm uber godly Town? Also, when did you claim to have used your day cop ability?

 

[frozenmarsh751]

watched seph*

i keep saying johns name for no reason

 

[BarDulL]

To be honest, I thought I remembered John saying "Sang is NOT going to be lynched today," but he actually said "Sang is NOT going to be quicklynched today," then continued to elaborate later on that he WAS ok with her lynch.

I have a question for you. Why did you want me to explain what I found first, considering I'm uber godly Town? Also, when did you claim to have used your day cop ability?

To rephrase that second question, what time exactly did you use your daycop ability?

 

[#HBC | J]

Alright, I will explain that to you either after John's post something or after Pierce posts after re-reading my posts.

I claimed to have used it during D2. I can go find a post that I am referencing after John-and/or-Pierce.

 

[BarDulL]

Alright, I will explain that to you either after John's post something or after Pierce posts after re-reading my posts.

I claimed to have used it during D2. I can go find a post that I am referencing after John-and/or-Pierce.

Interesting.

 

[#HBC | J]

Bardull, one more question, you are a town-bro correct?