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Pac West Shoddy Tourney - Tournament Open! Choose your Pokemon!!!

Pink Reaper

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scizor is sporting like a 95% usage rate


i cant trust you
you have a pokemon-green name




updated first post with the rules

can someone explain to me the status of no self-ko clause?
and what happened to no hax items?

these are the only 2 rules i dont know about
No -Self KO clause is "If you are on your last pokemon, you can't use Explosion/Self-Destruct to just end the battle" however if you and your opponent are both on last poke, you actually CAN use Explosion/Self-Destruct and win.

Hax Items are King's Rock/Quick Claw/Focus Band etc. Items with a set percent chance of causing hax(Flinch/Go First/Survive Hit) If you're just asking about like, where they are, I think Shoddy just decided not to add them in so they didn't have to worry about them.
 

pockyD

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i think freeze clause is ****ing stupid

edit: until they create a move that has anything resembling a high freeze chance
 

Pink Reaper

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Have you ever actually played on Shoddy >_>

The amount of Freeze hax on shoddy is stupid, something is wrong with the RNG. I've frozen an opponent, had them unfreeze, hit me with an ice attack, freeze me, then I freeze another of their pokemon when I switch. Ice Beam for top tier.
 

pockyD

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if the rng is broken, then fix it; don't make a rule that avoids use of the rng altogether

does any pokemon have a higher chance to freeze than 20%?
 

Pink Reaper

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The only move with above a 10% chance of freezing is Tri-Attack and nothing with serene grace gets that, unless you switch a Trace Porygon2 into a Jirachi/Togekiss.

Edit: Jirachi/Togekiss being the only common pokemon that both have and use serene grace.
 

pockyD

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i thought tri-attack only had a 20% chance of status, 1/3 (6.7%?) for each

edit:

anyway, the point is you aren't going to continually try to ice beam a heatran or something hoping to freeze it

and porygon2 generally doesn't run tri-attack so "common" doesn't matter as we're clearly contriving a scenario
 

The Greater Leon

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k well im the boss so:

dont explode to tie cuz thats gay you shouldve lost

im fine with banning hax items simply because thats how i played 2 years ago

freeze clause: the big debate!
pink reaper has told me shoddy has a funky rng. but i think talking about rng's is DUMB in theory
ohhh man warriors are so gimp! i lost that arena because of the RNG
sounds like some johns
pokemon is a game of chance -____-

also i dont really care if we play with timers on or off

so atm im thinking no freeze clause
unless thats gonna make people not play
because the other alternative is we play with it on and me and pocky think its dumb

you cant freezeclause on wifi
 
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I'll join. All standard clauses minus freeze sounds legit. Your own fault for letting the freezing pokemon keep shooting ****.

The RNG is legit, there's nothing wrong with it. If you want to cry about it and be a nerd go ahead and check the source code.
 

Pink Reaper

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Bright Powder and Scope Lens aren't considered Hax Items since their effects are constant, they're usually allowed(It's also why "Items that raise evasion are not banned" is in the Evasion Clause). Also, on Shoddybattle, Yawn will go through if your opponent already has a sleeping pokemon, but whatever it hits wont fall asleep. Hypnosis, Spore, Sing, etc will all fail if you attempt to use them while your opponent has a sleeping pokemon, HOWEVER, it doesn't stop you from using it on an already sleeping opponent, so if you're slower than them and they wake up as you use it it will still go through.

There is no Hax Item Clause on shoddy just because it wont let you use items that are already considered banned.

Also, when starting a battle, make sure these clauses are off:

-Extended Game Clause
-Item Clause
-Random Battle
-Level Balance


There is also an additional clause on Shoddybattle called Strict Damage Clause. This clause makes it so you can never do more damage than your opponent has remaining health. The idea is that it a) more closely resembles the game and b) allows you to keep information like Boosting items secret for as long as possible. This clause is turned on during ladder matches, whether you want to make it a rule or not is up to you Brenden.
 

The Greater Leon

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ok, so:

All standard clauses minus freeze.

Bright Powder and Scope Lens allowed.

i read somewhere that technically using yawn while they have a guy whos a sleep breaks sleep clause. it probably wont be a problem.

Strict Damage Clause can be on. to be closer to the real game.
 

The Greater Leon

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when will everyone be available on sunday
me, after 5

ill probably post pools tonight, and you can play whenever

unless everyone wants to do it after 9 (will take an hour or 2)
 

JDM

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I'm free from like 1pm till like 7:30 tomorrow but I wanna watch the chargers game.
 

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I usually play best of 1 cause then people can hella cp your team. And pool B looks hella easy lol.
 

The Greater Leon

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I usually play best of 1 cause then people can hella cp your team. And pool B looks hella easy lol.
do best 2 of 3 with the exact same pokemon and items. you can switch your lead though

pools were random. the only people who actually play are suuwo and pink reaper (i was hoping they were different pools, i wouldve seeded them, so i got lucky). other than that the only ease factor should be who gimps themselves the most (derek is probably using 2 specific UU pokemon i wont say, and stab said hes using all nu)

luck of the draw. unless people agree and want me to seed pools

whats your shoddy name
 

The Greater Leon

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dont start yet

give me your feedback.

im really only waiting on pink reaper or suuwo to talk about:
extended clause

if their last pokemon is electrode and they explode and kill your last pokemon, who is the winner? will shoddy even allow that?

we can figure out later: finals to determine 3rd/4th

id like to have everyones shoddy name before we start, but its not a big deal

are you ok?
busta wulf
with the pools?

i dont even have a team yet
 

The Greater Leon

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**** em

extended clause remains on. i dont want any casual tears about gamesharking to get 4 berries.
if your last pokemon is electrode and you explode them you win because electrode ****ing *****
(think bowser suicide rule)

finals when we get there
tournament open
 

Pink Reaper

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Extended game clause is SUPER not used on Shoddy. It's only to allow Enigma Berry and Arceus into normal play.

Also, Self KO clause is either bugged or this is just how they wanted it for Shoddy: If you use a move like Explosion or Self-Destruct and it KO's your opponent, you take NO damage and win the match, assuming it was your opponents last pokemon.

I already posted it but here it is again. My name on Shoddy is JustWatching.
 

ConnorTheKid

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okay so I learned shoddy isn't even that fun to me sooooooo

just let everyone in my pool 2-0 me hah
 

The Greater Leon

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connor forfeits (after sloppy play all around then getting tossed <3)
pink reaper walks over me 2-0
pocky beats pink reaper 2-0
pocky beats me in a almost close 2-1

tournament ruins the fun, next time will be friendlies
 

bbb

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my aim is skelatoid rules for all that don't know, my team is mad garbs so get at me
 

kirbyraeg

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kirbyraeg on shoddy, tehspaceking on aim

my team is lol but this isn't serious anyway

i'll probably be on for most of today, probably free for this afternoon and tomorrow whenever

aim me for a game
 
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