Other M move changes

[BerryBomber]

At 2:13, they say Samus will now have moves redisgned from Other M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQD1yJinzeQ

With what we know so far, what does everyone think about the Other M move changes?
(Missiles and charge shot seem to remain the same. There is a picture of morph ball dropping a bomb on the website, so im assuming morph mode will not be implemented)

Personally I think in terms of Super Smash, this is a pretty cool decision. Her melee effectiveness will surely rise while keeping her specials in tact.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

They said she looks like Other M. They never said anything about her moves being taken from Other M.

 

[BerryBomber]

Hmm, your right. Well she certainly seemed different in the main trailer, idk...

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

In the developer direct video they show her use a roundhouse kick i dont remember her using before, although i could be wrong.

 

[Knight Dude]

She doesn't seem too different, so that's good. But that roundhouse kick looks cool. I wonder if that really is new or if I'm just forgetting her moveset at the moment.

 

[DakotaBonez]

Is it a roundhouse kick or just her back tilt from brawl?

 

[standardtoaster]

In the developer direct video they show her use a roundhouse kick i dont remember her using before, although i could be wrong.

it's the same ftilt she's had in the last 3 smash games. all it has now is that trail graphic

 

[Swamp Sensei]

In the developer direct video they show her use a roundhouse kick i dont remember her using before, although i could be wrong.

That's her forward tilt.

 

[Knight Dude]

Huh, Well I need to start using Samus a bit more again.

 

[LaniusShrike]

The only moves that she could really bring from Other M would be changing her throws to be more like the Finishing moves that Other M Samus used... climbing on top of enemies and charging a blast into her enemies' skulls? Yeah, okay.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

That's her forward tilt.

huh, guess i had forgotten it since brawl

 

[IsmaR]

This should all be kept in the Samus discussion thread/forum. Off the top of my head, her F-Smash is now explode-y, her Final Smash looks more Phazon-y, she seems slightly faster/more acrobatic to reflect Other M, and her Charge Shot seems more Metroid-Prime-y.

 

[.EXE]

Other than her F smash not much seems to be changed about her.

 

[choknater]

yeah her fsmash was buffed hardcore. much faster and has that explosion hitbox similar to mario's

 

[ChozoBoy]

I'd give her the Lethal Strike as a down-throw.
http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Lethal_Strike

 

[Ridley_Prime]

As a bonus, she would only be able to do the Lethal Strike on Ridley if he's in like his Other M fight when he's weakened, while Ridley would only be able to do the wall drag thing on Samus players.

 

[Z1GMA]

They better keep her Zair like it was in Brawl.

 

[Igneous42]

The only moves that she could really bring from Other M would be changing her throws to be more like the Finishing moves that Other M Samus used... climbing on top of enemies and charging a blast into her enemies' skulls? Yeah, okay.

She could also not use certain moves unless the player is named Adam, that'd be a pretty good Other M reference.

Joking aside Other M is the worst, I greatly dislike that they are using her Other M look and hope very much there will be alt costumes so I don't have to use it.

 

[Z1GMA]

I'd give her the Lethal Strike as a down-throw.

Dude... It'd be even more awesomeish if it dealt damage depending on Samus' Charge Shot Level.

Dthrow: Lethal Strike
With no charge - 5% damage, low knockback up and slightly away.
With a Max Charge - 18% damage, medium/high knockback up and sligthly away. (Not as powerful as her standard B, for balancing- reasons)

Keep in mind that D3's Bthrow does 16% damage in Brawl (I hope it gets nerfed so that this throw appears to be more fantastic).
After the throw, Samus' Charge Level returns to 0%.

 

[TheAccursedHunter01]

Could it work if Samus' new running grab was the initiator for a Lethal Strike? What I mean by this is that when you are about to perform a Lethal Strike on an enemy in Other M, Samus' back boosters activate and launches herself at her enemy and somewhat in a running/lunging motion. I'm not sure exactly how that would work since you would need to then keep them in your grasp so you can hit them and perform one of four throws. Once, again, not sure how that would work but it sound like it could.

 

[Yoichi Hiruma]

Adam codecs?

 

[Bowserlick]

There could be an event match where Samus's specials are shut off. And are only authorized after a certain amount of time or after the enemy takes a certain amount of damage.

 

[TheAccursedHunter01]

There could be an event match where Samus's specials are shut off. And are only authorized after a certain amount of time or after the enemy takes a certain amount of damage.

That's not a bad idea. The Authorization thing isn't really a bad idea all together, but it was used horribly in Other M. I think i would work better in a sequel to Fusion. Since after Fusion, Samus is a renegade or at least is not nearly as trustworthy to the Federation. On her next assignment from them, She could only be allowed to use certain abilities until she is told by unless something bad happens in relation to the plot or Samus just wants to regain her good standing with the Feds. There would be at least one moment where Samus goes "**** you I do what I want" and activates one of her abilities anyway. Only real idea I have on that front.

 

[ph00tbag]

I'd like to see her get the Sense Move as a roll.

Because **** the roll she has.

It'd also be nice if she had morph ball as a crawl.

 

[LiteTheIronMan]

yes. I hope to god Other M combat mechanics become a part of her buffed moveset

 

[NitrusVirus]

All of Samus' new special moves make her say "The baby"

 

[Protom]

I'd like to see her get the Sense Move as a roll.

Because **** the roll she has.

It'd also be nice if she had morph ball as a crawl.

Y CANT METROID CRAWL?

 

[NitrusVirus]

Y CANT METROID CRAWL?

METROID IS MY FAVORITE BOUNTY HUNTER SHES SO STRONG AND I LIKE ZELDA TOO BECAUSE HE SAVES THE PRINCESS ALL THE TIME

 

[Protom]

METROID IS MY FAVORITE BOUNTY HUNTER HES SO STRONG AND I LIKE ZELDA TOO BECAUSE HE SAVES THE PRINCESS ALL THE TIME

Fixed

 

[Big-Cat]

(Missiles and charge shot seem to remain the same. There is a picture of morph ball dropping a bomb on the website, so im assuming morph mode will not be implemented)

It was too early to exactly tell at that time. Based of what we know with Peach, they're still changing moves up so she might be getting a morph ball mode, but we could not tell from that snapshot.

 

[Sonicguy726]

She could also not use certain moves unless the player is named Adam, that'd be a pretty good Other M reference.

Joking aside Other M is the worst, I greatly dislike that they are using her Other M look and hope very much there will be alt costumes so I don't have to use it.

I don't think it matters how good the game was, the other M design is probably the best it's alot less bulky than usual

 

[NamelessHunter]

I don't think it matters how good the game was, the other M design is probably the best it's alot less bulky than usual

The bulky shoulder pads are too iconic. Other M only really removed the bulk to make samus look like a woman, not for anything related to "functionality." Her smash64 design is entirely based off super metroid, and they haven't derailed far from that design since then. They might as well just stick with it.

I am not biased by my hatred for Other M. I swear I'm not.

 

[Zulyar]

I've never played other m but when i saw the suit i was like what is that? i must say i prefer the old looks from 64 melee and brawl more, though i am looking forward to a buffed samus, then again even though she probably gets a bit faster and her F smash boosted (in range for sure atleast cuz of the fire). it still depends on how strong the rest of the cast is compared to her, she hasnt really been at the top of the foodchain in smash.

 

[UnSaxon51]

I never had a problem with the art style of Other M. I was actually really excited for it.
Then I heard about the control scheme and I was like... "Wait, what?"


And then I heard about the story. And to this day it is the only Metroid game I haven't played.

 

[KoRLumen]

Honestly, the suit was the only thing I liked about Other M.

That, and the Lethal Strikes. Damn, pulling them off felt so good.

Oh, and the Shinespark, too.

The switching perspectives thing was super clumsy though. And the story =_=

 

[KingChaos]

Samus to me to be perfect only needs a few changes. Needs to be a less floaty and have more kill power. I''m diggin the buffed up fsmash that should work out quite nicely. I hope they change her throws to something like the lethal strike that would be awesome. Also her dodge roll needs to be changed to something quicker. I like the morph ball crawl idea that could work wonders on characters like falco with all that laser spam. One more thing I can think of to restore her to the glory she deserves is morph ball bombs need to explode on contact again not just a timer. As long as they did those things and kept her brawl zair she would be perfected!..imo.

 

[KoRLumen]

Samus to me to be perfect only needs a few changes. Needs to be a less floaty and have more kill power. I''m diggin the buffed up fsmash that should work out quite nicely. I hope they change her throws to something like the lethal strike that would be awesome. Also her dodge roll needs to be changed to something quicker. I like the morph ball crawl idea that could work wonders on characters like falco with all that laser spam. One more thing I can think of to restore her to the glory she deserves is morph ball bombs need to explode on contact again not just a timer. As long as they did those things and kept her brawl zair she would be perfected!..imo.

Imagine if her screwattack functioned like it did in the Metroid games. Samus goddess tier.

In all seriousness, though, I would also buff her super missiles, as somebody else had mentioned. And put back the good ole SWD.

 

[UltimateWario]

It's not an Other M move change, but **** Other M. Seriously.

Anyway, it'd be cool if the Super Missiles could get buffed to their Prime effectiveness without it being broken. Like, holding the Super Missile special for a second would cause the front of the Missile to emerge from her Cannon, charge momentarily, then streak forward and do that cool "explosion then implosion then disperse" animation. Maybe they'd have much less range and require much better timing, but have good kill power? Obviously, Samus would be open to attack while charging it.

 

[Zuby]

I liked Other M, but I'll confess that it's actually the only Metroid game I've played, apart from a couple of minutes each of the original and Prime. Not that it didn't have flaws, but those are well documented and there's no point in me raising them here.

If they wanted to include more Other M in Samus' moveset they could always give her the Space Jump as a recovery. With Kirby, Jigglypuff, Meta Knight, Pit, King Dedede and Charizard all getting multi jumps, what's one more?

Multi-lock super missiles? Would need to give it a charge time and slow recovery to keep it reasonable, but it's doable.

Power bomb could be fun.

Or they could take the easy way and just change the colour of the grapple beam.

 

[KoRLumen]

Power Bomb would be mental lol.

I'd like to see her use Sensemove to side-dodge. Much quicker and flashier.