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Considering how many legitimately obscure characters are spirits even 8 seems kinda low tbh (also where's my boy Grit?). How the hell did AW get shafted so hard this game?
I mean 8 is the amount Golden Sun had so I thought a similar amount would be justified.
Honestly wish the Spirit team did more research and/or had more knowledgeable people on that team. Because it was really grating what they did.
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We actually floated this idea on Andy's channel in the Assist Alliance Discord server but it was just kinda dropped.
I know. It was because of that lack of content that lead to me getting my hopes up for Andy in this Fighters Pass (assuming there was an AW in development) but in hindsight, I can say it was wishful thinking and grasping at straws™® .
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Is it? I mean with the Landmaster gone I can't think of anything similar to that aside from Samus' FS but that's very different from a Megatank going ballistic on everyone on stage.
How would that work tho? I mean I love the concept but how would you be able to shift between FS' or have a set FS?
But still, I think Atlus would do a pretty good job with the IP.
Of these choices, I like Camelot, Alpha Dream, Next Level, Retro, and Capcom. All of them have done games similar in scope and visual style to the AWs, and I think they could nail the quirky sensibilities of the series (especially I'd say AlphaDream and the two Western studios).So here's a question for all of you guys. Had this on my mind the other day and though it would make for interesting discussion.
A common talking point in why people think a new Advance Wars can't happen is because of "Intelligent Systems not wanting to do two turn-based strategy games" and "would rather do other genre's instead". All that jazz even though i'm highly skeptical of that given we've seen plenty of studio's who've managed two series in the same genre just fine and no comment from IntSys even suggests this.
But lets say hypothetically Advance Wars did get revived but instead, it came from a different development studio. Out of all these studio's, which ones do you think would...
A) Handle the series best?
B) Would make it reach levels it's never seen before?
Granted we don't know if any of these studio's even want to do a TBS game at all but lets say they were willing to take on Advance Wars.
Nintendo Studio's
Monolith Soft: This might seem odd to some but I honestly think the Wars IP could be done justice in Monolith's hands. I mean Wars isn't too far off from being an RPG and all so it might be something up their alley. Of course that would mean a new AW in the artstyle of XC2 which i'm not exactly thrilled about lol. Regardless, this is something I would be interested in seeing.
Camelot: Imagine both Advance Wars and Golden Sun being done by the same studio? Camelot is renowned for their work on the Shining Force series so it wouldn't be as much of a stretch. Personally speaking tho, I wouldn't want this if only to get Camelot working on a new Golden Sun instead lol.
Retro Studio's: They've handled plenty of Nintendo IP before that originated in Japan (DK & Metroid games). I'm sure they could do well with this IP although it might be difficult in between DK/Metroid releases.
Next Level Games: Another western choice for this like Retro. They could take fun, creative liberties like they did with Mario Strikers.
Alpha Dream: I suppose Alpha having AW would make their IP lineup mirror that of IntSys. Both with their respective Mario RPG series and their own TBS series. I wonder if that's something they could do or be interested in?
Game Freak: This is a very oddball choice. It's not something I would be thrilled about especially after the Sword & Shield controversy but man if they somehow got a Pokemon X Advance Wars crossover that would do wonders for the Wars series!
Third Party Studio's
Platinum Games: This might be something up their alley. They're a really creative studio and maybe they could take this franchise to levels not seen before?
Chucklefish: Well this is a no-brainer after Wargroove. If there was one third-party studio I could say with confidence who could take this IP, CF would do this franchise the justice it deserves.
Ubisoft: Mario Rabbids Batle Kingdom anyone? Kinda funny given AW was an inspiration for the devs. I would be interested in Ubisofts take on the franchise if that ever did happen.
Capcom: I actually think this would work great. Capcom has worked on Nintendo IP before (think back to the Oracle/Minish Cap Zelda games). Also, Ace Attorney is a very "Advance Wars" like game in terms of it's setting & tone so if a new AW was made in the style of AA that would be amazing.
Bandai Namco: Another idea that I don't think is particularly likely especially with Smash stuff and what have you. Still, it's an idea I guess.
Atlus: I would throw this idea out there but it's more likely that it gets passed over in favor of more Persona games similar to poor Shin Megami Tensai.
I actually wasn't aware who Double Fine was until I researched them. Apparently, they're owned by Microsoft which could make things tricky even despite the growing relationship between Nintendo & Microsoft.
Oh, I'm so sorry. I should have been more clear. What I was trying to ask was, due to Smash Ultimate having this... I guess, 'ideology' that ALL FS attacks must be more streamlined and 'to the point' (which has resulted in things like Giga Bowser, Super Sonic, Giga Mac, and Wario-Man no longer being controllable like playable characters, Fox, Falco, and Wolf retiring their Landmasters, etc.), does anyone have any idea as to what kind of FS Andy could use, that keeps in line with Smash Ultimate's take on FS attacks, while still keeping to the 'spirit' of the Wars games and what Andy can do?
I feel ya! As much as I want a new Advance Wars by anyone, I don't want anything to get in the way of Camelot & Golden Sun so that's for the better. Monolith I believe could do the series justice and it has the manpower to make it happen.
I don't believe so but like I said, Advance Wars isn't too far off from being an RPG and given Nintendo's "AW needs character relationships to succeed" thing, it would get even closer to that kind of game. Of course, balancing that with Xenoblade might be a challenge but like, they're a really big studio that could diversify having a different genre that's not too far off from what they usually do. Maybe get some staff from IntSys in an advisory role to aid in development and they're good.
I see.
I have a bit of a... controversial idea. Of the Nintendo studios you mentioned, only two of them are actually owned by Nintendo (Monolith and Retro). All the others (including IS, for that matter) are only affiliated with Nintendo, though no one would blame you for thinking otherwise.So here's a question for all of you guys. Had this on my mind the other day and though it would make for interesting discussion.
A common talking point in why people think a new Advance Wars can't happen is because of "Intelligent Systems not wanting to do two turn-based strategy games" and "would rather do other genre's instead". All that jazz even though i'm highly skeptical of that given we've seen plenty of studio's who've managed two series in the same genre just fine and no comment from IntSys even suggests this.
But lets say hypothetically Advance Wars did get revived but instead, it came from a different development studio. Out of all these studio's, which ones do you think would...
A) Handle the series best?
B) Would make it reach levels it's never seen before?
Granted we don't know if any of these studio's even want to do a TBS game at all but lets say they were willing to take on Advance Wars.
Nintendo Studio's
Monolith Soft: This might seem odd to some but I honestly think the Wars IP could be done justice in Monolith's hands. I mean Wars isn't too far off from being an RPG and all so it might be something up their alley. Of course that would mean a new AW in the artstyle of XC2 which i'm not exactly thrilled about lol. Regardless, this is something I would be interested in seeing.
Camelot: Imagine both Advance Wars and Golden Sun being done by the same studio? Camelot is renowned for their work on the Shining Force series so it wouldn't be as much of a stretch. Personally speaking tho, I wouldn't want this if only to get Camelot working on a new Golden Sun instead lol.
Retro Studio's: They've handled plenty of Nintendo IP before that originated in Japan (DK & Metroid games). I'm sure they could do well with this IP although it might be difficult in between DK/Metroid releases.
Next Level Games: Another western choice for this like Retro. They could take fun, creative liberties like they did with Mario Strikers.
Alpha Dream: I suppose Alpha having AW would make their IP lineup mirror that of IntSys. Both with their respective Mario RPG series and their own TBS series. I wonder if that's something they could do or be interested in?
Game Freak: This is a very oddball choice. It's not something I would be thrilled about especially after the Sword & Shield controversy but man if they somehow got a Pokemon X Advance Wars crossover that would do wonders for the Wars series!
Third Party Studio's
Platinum Games: This might be something up their alley. They're a really creative studio and maybe they could take this franchise to levels not seen before?
Chucklefish: Well this is a no-brainer after Wargroove. If there was one third-party studio I could say with confidence who could take this IP, CF would do this franchise the justice it deserves.
Ubisoft: Mario Rabbids Batle Kingdom anyone? Kinda funny given AW was an inspiration for the devs. I would be interested in Ubisofts take on the franchise if that ever did happen.
Capcom: I actually think this would work great. Capcom has worked on Nintendo IP before (think back to the Oracle/Minish Cap Zelda games). Also, Ace Attorney is a very "Advance Wars" like game in terms of it's setting & tone so if a new AW was made in the style of AA that would be amazing.
Bandai Namco: Another idea that I don't think is particularly likely especially with Smash stuff and what have you. Still, it's an idea I guess.
Atlus: I would throw this idea out there but it's more likely that it gets passed over in favor of more Persona games similar to poor Shin Megami Tensai.
I mean, I almost figured that IntSys was really close to being a 1st party series already with the amount of Nintendo employees that have worked on Advance Wars. And of course, WarioWare being co-developed by Nintendo in-house.
I couldn't find anything on them being owned in any capacity, so either they're just affiliates, or I'm not looking in the right places.
They're second-party studio's by name but they might as well be first party given that they make games exclusively for Nintendo platforms. I'm not sure if that's exactly how it would go down but if a buyout of IntSys/Camelot lead to the return of both AW & GS then I want to see it happen, regardless of how unlikely that is.
I actually had no idea IntSys used to be located in Nintendo's building. And for that matter, I thought IntSys was Nintendo-owned outright given that they collaborate with Nintendo in-house so much on most of their projects.
I think full-sized units might be too much to program for Andy but like, I would really like it if they used the sprites from the battle animation instead of the overworld ones used as the Assist Trophy in Brawl/Smash 4. It wouldn't look out of place at all and looks aesthetically better than the AT units or creating new designs for the units instead.
It's not like it would change a lot, but yeah if it means more of that great variety in IS' works, I'm for it.
At this juncture, Advance Wars fans would accept literally anything. Coming from experience.
Yeah, IntSys might as well be a 1st party studio already. Nothing much would really change about them in the way their business model works. All it means is more capital which means a better possibility for Advance Wars,
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and two other Discord users for helping make this happen. You guys are the best!I was just speaking to how desperate a lot of AW fans (myself included) are for anything for this franchise. So much so that I would actually pop-off for a Federation Force-esque spin-off because i'm that desperate for anything haha.
Nah, those points are easily refutable when IS already did another strategy game (Codename STEAM).
The big problem I have with this situation is Nintendo never does that. I mean, they never give a "second party IP" to another company in order to do a new game. Only exceptions are Glory of Heracles, which Nintendo bought the IP and give it to PAON to do a new game, and Famicom Tentei Club, that apparently was done by Tose and now another company does the remake (and TOSE is special, so I wouldn't count it tbf)
I would definitely add Koei Tecmo. They were the responsible of Pokémon Conquest (apart from FE:TH), are the responsible of Romance of Three Kingdoms saga (AFAIK it's a strategy game) and they have a lot of manpower. Maybe the graphics wouldn't be top, but they could give an interest point of view regarding the plot and mechanics.Third Party Studio's
Platinum Games: This might be something up their alley. They're a really creative studio and maybe they could take this franchise to levels not seen before?
Chucklefish: Well this is a no-brainer after Wargroove. If there was one third-party studio I could say with confidence who could take this IP, CF would do this franchise the justice it deserves.
Ubisoft: Mario Rabbids Batle Kingdom anyone? Kinda funny given AW was an inspiration for the devs. I would be interested in Ubisofts take on the franchise if that ever did happen.
Capcom: I actually think this would work great. Capcom has worked on Nintendo IP before (think back to the Oracle/Minish Cap Zelda games). Also, Ace Attorney is a very "Advance Wars" like game in terms of it's setting & tone so if a new AW was made in the style of AA that would be amazing.
Bandai Namco: Another idea that I don't think is particularly likely especially with Smash stuff and what have you. Still, it's an idea I guess.
Atlus: I would throw this idea out there but it's more likely that it gets passed over in favor of more Persona games similar to poor Shin Megami Tensai.
Basically, IS already does whatever they want xD
Maybe Nintendo has some stakes of some of them, but in the end they're 3rd parties that only work with Nintendo.
I just wanted to say that Codename STEAM is kind of a different genre than the top-down, turn based strategy one AW and FE are. Of course, AW is purely-tactical compared to FE's RPG mechanics so it has enough to make itself different. All it needs to come back, at least according to Nintendo producer Hitoshi Yamagami is it for to have relationship mechanics or whatever. Using 3H's engine, I think they might finally be able to get around this reservation by having the CO fight alongside the units or maybe even multiple CO's I think. Or even like, a military academy setting where nations form strategic alliances and all. I know 3H kind of has this gimmick but this was an idea I had before 3H was a thing. And it would be more visually distinct with the emphasis on forming strong ties with nations and CO's having stronger ties with another as a result.
