On Angels

[Zook]

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I was enjoying a bonfire with my girlfriend today when, out of the blue, my girlfriend says, "Do you believe in angels?"

I hesitated for a second. Did I hear that right? Angels? This is my first girlfriend. We've been together for almost 2 years now, and that was easily the most awkward moment I've ever had with her.

"No," I said, chuckling. "Why?"

She quickly muttered "Oh" and went quiet. I asked her if she did, and she answered in the affirmative. Said she... talked to them.

My girlfriend said she has talked to angels.

I wanted to laugh, but instead I just felt sick. The kind of sick you get when you see your 9th grade report card and hide it away from your parents. That sick when you're an awkward kid and you ask a girl out. Nauseous.

She asked me if I thought she was crazy. "A little!" I said in an awkward, I'm-trying-to-make-light-of-this-situation way.

"You're the only person I know who doesn't believe in angels," she said with a strange smile on her face. She then tells me that all her friends believe in angels, as does her family.

Then she asks me if I believe I have a guardian angel. "Uh... No." She says that her grandmother (died a while back) is hers.

After that shes asked me if I believe in anything. "Ghosts?" "No." "Heaven or Hell?" "Nope." "I know you don't believe in God," she said, referring to my Flying Spaghetti Monster car emblem. I told her I did believe in aliens. She laughed, we made a few jokes about that, then went on with the rest of the day.

Afterward, she asked me if I was weirded out. "Of course not," I lied, smiling.

I wish I had the heart to tell her my true feelings. It weirded me out, alright. It is crazy. Talking to angels? ****ing guardian angels? That's silly. Ridiculous. Stupid.

She seemed pretty upset when I said I didn't agree with her beliefs, so I didn't bother to question hers.

****ing angels. I can't get over it. Can't wait to see the first comment that boils down to "You have one crazy girlfriend bro :trollface:"

I'm not sure how I feel about all this. It's crazy. Is angel belief still common today or something? Have you "talked" to angels? (Put quotes around that because it's impossible, of course, as angels don't exist.) Am I over reacting? What should I do?

Angels.

 

[Mota]

Of course angels exist.

To some extent you could replace "Angel" with Religion/Jesus or something..."Is angel/religion/Jesus belief still common today or something?".
How do you feel about people who believe in religions? On second thought it's prob best if we don't go there.

People have their faiths and beliefs in things that may seem unbelievable and lacking in evidence. Best just to accept it and never bring it up again

 

[Flutter NiTE]

I think your over reacting. So your girlfriend has faith in a religious idol, I don't see what the issue is.

 

[Patinator]

That's the thing about relationships, Zooky boy. Typically you aren't going to find someone exactly like you... you've got to make the decision to try your luck with another person, or just ignore it and deal with it.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

I don't see anything wrong with it. Do you get that worked up when people tell you they believe in God?

 

[Falconv1.0]

Well, a belief in Angels goes with a belief in Christianity, man. For the record, religious beliefs don't exactly prove how intelligent a person is. It can tell you other things about them for sure, I myself don't exactly care for religion, but it doesn't automatically equal dumb.

One important thing though is whether or not she thinks they all have wings. If she does, SHE'S FULL OF ****ING **** AND HAS NO IDEA WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Well, a belief in Angels goes with a belief in Christianity, man. For the record, religious beliefs don't exactly prove how intelligent a person is. It can tell you other things about them for sure, I myself don't exactly care for religion, but it doesn't automatically equal dumb.

One important thing though is whether or not she thinks they all have wings. If she does, SHE'S FULL OF ****ING **** AND HAS NO IDEA WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.

Yeah I gotta agree a lot with the bolded. For some reason some people tend to think that because someone is religious they're automatically inferior as an intellectual, which is kind of a ridiculous idea.

 

[Zook]

I don't see anything wrong with it. Do you get that worked up when people tell you they believe in God?

No, it just caught me off guard. After 2 years of dating someone, I would have thought I would have known about this now. I feel like she was hiding it or something :/ I suppose that fueled the fire of my shock.

We've discussed our beliefs before and she never mentioned it. She said she was nonreligious.

 

[MuraRengan]

Overreacting would be an understatement. Your reaction and tone in this topic show not concern, but intolerance for such a belief. You're, I'm guessing, and atheist, that's cool, but when discussing spiritual and theological topics with other people, it's best not to be vindictive no matter how convinced you are of your own beliefs. Just in this topic you asked, "Is belief in angels still common." That's such a silly question. The majority of the world is still largely religious, it's not as if belief in God just magically went away in the last couple years. I'm more concerned for your mindset than your girlfriend's honestly.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

No, it just caught me off guard. After 2 years of dating someone, I would have thought I would have known about this now. I feel like she was hiding it or something :/ I suppose that fueled the fire of my shock.

We've discussed our beliefs before and she never mentioned it. She said she was nonreligious.

Oh, I gotcha. Seems weird that you wouldn't know for 2 years but then she tells you out of the blue at a random time.

 

[El Nino]

Hey, at least it wasn't Scientology.

But really, I know people who believe in Astrology. And Tarot cards. I find that kind of thing silly, but hey, maybe people just have different ways of interpreting the things that happen to them in life.

I think you kind of missed out on a chance to be emotionally supportive. If she believes that her grandmother is her guardian angel, then she was obviously affected by her passing. You may not agree with her belief, but since she wasn't trying to convert you or anything, you can still support her, you know?

 

[Super_Sonic8677]

A semi-angry rant about Angels? lmao.

Well given how you wrote this I'm guessing your gf "hid" this from you because she figured how you would react would be unfavorable or bad, being you have been together for two years and all.

She's not crazy I promise or at least there's not enough evidence in your blog to prove that she is. Non-religious can mean only that one doesn't go to a church of some kind. If you don't share in her beliefs and she knows this or assumes it, why would she talk about it? It'd just be awkward for her at best or get blown up in her face at worst. (If you're so inclined which I hope you're not..over this lol)

Doesn't sound like concern to me either. That's not a very nice way to talk about somebody you've been with for two years. The redicule and scorn in your tone of writing is apparent. This was a good time to be suportive as El Nino said. Not "holier than thou" in your "superior" Atheisticness. Yes I made a new word. That's the attitude I'm getting from this blog.

Take things with a more open mind and even if you don't share the belief she has, when it's familiy related like her grandmother that should have been a cue for you to be understanding and even suportive. Night time, bonfire, especially if it was just the two of you this was an opportunity that you missed out on.

You don't believe in heaven or hell so why does it matter if she entertains the notion that angels exist? When she dies she'll find out. It's not going to hurt her or you or anyone else.

Over reacted? Yes.
What should you do? Grow up a little bit and don't worry so much about the little details like how we would as an overall atheistic board react to this blog.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

The reason why she hid it from you is more important than what she hid from you.

Confront her with your feelings and stay focused on whats important.

 

[link2702]

i figured that this was gonnna be some way to bash pit mains....


i leave disapointed.

 

[john!]

girls are irrational. you're irrational too, you just don't realize it. i say accept her beliefs and move on.

 

[Falconv1.0]

Wait, she says she's nonreligious but she believes in Angels?

That is one of the stupidest things I've heard of in my life. You don't just make **** up to feel good about life, might as well believe giant testicles watch us from space planning out our lives.

 

[§witch]

Dump her if you're going to be a **** about it. Otherwise, shut up.

 

[rhan]

girls are irrational. you're irrational too, you just don't realize it. i say accept her beliefs and move on.

This x1000000000000

Wait, she says she's nonreligious but she believes in Angels?

That is one of the stupidest things I've heard of in my life. You don't just make **** up to feel good about life, might as well believe giant testicles watch us from space planning out our lives.

Not being Religious and believing in something are two different things.. lololol

You can believe in one thing and it doesn't have to be in a religious way. Everyone's minds work in different ways and portray everything differently then others. When she sees angels they could be spirits of pass ancestors or some ****.

Spirituality also doesn't mean anything religious either.

 

[El Nino]

Wait, she says she's nonreligious but she believes in Angels?

That is one of the stupidest things I've heard of in my life. You don't just make **** up to feel good about life, might as well believe giant testicles watch us from space planning out our lives.

Hey, don't insult the Holy Sky Testicle like that.

But, well, like rhan said, religion and spirituality are two different things. If someone doesn't follow practices specific to an organized religion (going to church/temple, observing religious holidays), they might call themselves nonreligious, even if they believe in ghosts or fate or whatever. "Angel" is a term that is so commonly used that it has taken on nonreligious meaning, regardless of its origin.

 

[Melomaniacal]

I think you are over reacting a tiny, tiny bit, but more importantly I think most people here are severely under reacting to the claim that she literally talks to angels. That doesn't sound healthy, and I would get a little suspicious of anyone if they told me something like that.

 

[Falconv1.0]

Not being Religious and believing in something are two different things.. lololol

I know that. It's still ********.

 

[Super_Sonic8677]

I think you are over reacting a tiny, tiny bit, but more importantly I think most people here are severely under reacting to the claim that she literally talks to angels. That doesn't sound healthy, and I would get a little suspicious of anyone if they told me something like that.

Probably means she talks to her Grandma who she deems as an angel. I'd say it just means her Grandma's death took a serious toll on her. Which Zook could have helped with. But didn't.

 

[MuraRengan]

"Angel" is a term that is so commonly used that it has taken on nonreligious meaning, regardless of its origin.

The media may have evolved the term angel into a non-religious term, but I don't think it's possible for a person to truly believe in angels without it being the Christian notion of angels, unless they're just ignorant.

 

[Zook]

I'm not sure how I could have comforted her about her grandmother's death when she died before my girlfriend even knew her. What would you have liked me to do? Lied?

The whole "do people believe in angels" thing was a silly, ignorant question and I apologize for it.

It makes me a little angry that a lot of you seem to think that I got pissed off at my girlfriend for this. I didn't tell her "Oh, you're a crazy *****, blah blah blah religion is silly blah blah be atheist with me" or anything like that. I was sensitive to her during the subject, and made sure to be polite to her belief. So much for being able to vent online

 

[Super_Sonic8677]

Well then..I at least appologize. I posted as I saw it. But just because ones views something a certain way does not mean that is truely how it is or was. If what I said does not apply to you, then pay it no heed. It DID seem like you did though that's all.

And now that we know the "when" which changes alot, what melomaniacal said now comes into play.

 

[El Nino]

What would you have liked me to do? Lied?

Is this your first serious relationship?

It makes me a little angry that a lot of you seem to think that I got pissed off at my girlfriend for this. I didn't tell her "Oh, you're a crazy *****, blah blah blah religion is silly blah blah be atheist with me" or anything like that. I was sensitive to her during the subject, and made sure to be polite to her belief. So much for being able to vent online

I didn't read it as you getting mad at her, but I think because of the way you wrote your blog, it wasn't clear if the tone you expressed here was the same tone you showed to her.