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Olimar Video Compendium

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Banjodorf

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Im sure they have healthy ones, like... Clif bars or something.

Wow what a tangent this has been.
Agreed. What a tangent.

Man, strange things happen amongst the posters of the Olimar boards...

More on topic and off-tangent, thats quite alot of videos you've amassed there IllidR. I remember when there were only 5 or 6 lol.

Alot of Olimar vs. Snake videos it seems...
 

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Rhyme I use Dazzle for capture, Adobe Premiere Pro 7 for editting, and virtual dub for encoding.
'K, thank you. Someone over at OBC mentioned that Vista may have trouble with Dazzle which explains why I couldn't get it to co-operate with me. If you think that the Adobe software is easy to use then I might give that a try...hoping to at least get a crew combo video out within the first year of having the game. =/
 

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Olimar Videos Worth Seeing

So, over the past week or so I actually went through and checked/watched every 1v1 video we have so far. Not only that but I tried to really watch each one, looking for points of interest and level of play. For instance while doing this is when i noticed echo's weird grab that i asked about in his guide thread, as well as noticed the trends of good positioning i wrote that book about in the olimer recovery thread.

Anyway, also taking into consideration quality of the recording, and details like computer players and items, I've got a ton of notes I'm gonna throw out there, take my opinion for whatever its worth. If i don't mention a particular video that you think is great, feel free to point it out/argue/flame me even if you feel the need. Likewise if i consider a video poor that you disagree with me on, its just my opinion state yours we'll talk about it. Also it took me a week to do, I may have missed a new video during that time, I just worked top to bottom.




Down
First, these video links no longer work:

Pokemon Trainer:
The 3rd video listed, supposedly at Final Destination (FD) is not there. Also, the 4th video is against sheik, not PKMNT.

Snake: The 6th video, Echo vs Knorr, is no longer up.

Wolf:The entire Tomato Soup vs Sniper series is down (videos 1-3).

Zelda: The 1st video, on Bridge, is down i'm 99% sure, it leads to ign so maybe its members only, but i think its just plain down.




Top Picks
These next videos are Top Picks in my opinion, they have great play/quality/competition etc In No Particular Order:

DSF vs Gimpy(MK)1 @Battle Field(BF): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47QIkWGPm7c
This is a perfect example of DSF's style of Olimar. Make sure to check the % of MK when he loses his second stock to an USmash. Of note also is his great positioning through this match. It is a hard fought match, though Gimpy had the opportunity to gimp DSF a couple time and did not.

DSF vs Champ(Fox): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYKR_tCNzfY
Another of DSF's hard fought games, it shows olimar survivability using good central positioning, and the struggles when on the outside. In particular DSF makes good use of upsmash in this fight, though he misses a few times a couple of the hits exemplify its KO ability and strength. Also good spacing between Olimar and his opponent is noticeable in this video.

Woker vs Anji(Link): http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=c3qmrB4DUI0
Again a good Olimar showing great positioning in the middle of the map. This video is also somewhat unique as neither Echo nor DSF make much use of UpB offensively the way Woker does. Woker however could make better/earlier use of Olimar KO moves to improve performance.

DSF vs Lucky(Marth) 2 @BF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjNH-zOCpt0
Again solid positioning and play out of DSF. Whats special here in particular is DSF's ground game mastery with Oli in this video, making great use of grab and FSmash's range. Some little things to see also was some good recovery against ledge hogging, and an example or attempt at using air dodge DI. Also this is a very difficult matchup for Olimar, perhaps Lucky isn't the best marth, but things could possibly be learned from this win.

Ninja Edd vs Diem(Lucas) @FD: http://youtube.com/watch?v=GLPgCa6imKM
A great example of pikmin spam and grab range, honestly that nearly sums up this Edd's strategy this game, apart from the times he decides to spam DSmash. This video shows fairly constant pressure from pikmin barrage, quickly racking up % or at least trading % with Lucas allowing for KOs. This is a solid example of a fundamental aspect of Olimar, even if the battle seems to be even, usually Olimar has put up more % than the other guy, trading with Oli rarely leaves Olimar with higher % overall.

Echo vs Lozr(Marth): http://youtube.com/watch?v=l47gyvqofpQ
Echo being himself in this video. Great ground play just as in DSF's match vs Lucky. It was in this video I noticed the weird grab Echo had, seemingly grabbing Loz from the ledge. This is a hard fought game against a tough opponent for Olimar, overall a great watch.

DSF vs Gimpy(MK) 2 and 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nPx9_ys9iI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSePZe3KUnk
These two videos, or really the entire winner finals series between DSF and Gimpy are great to watch, not necessarily just for DSF's Oli, but to understand the struggles P&O are going to face. You can literally see Gimpy find, and progressively exploit these weaknesses. These two videos in particular are a great example of the struggles Olimar mains are going to have to overcome.

Echo vs Karn(ROB) entire series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wTBB6vH0E0 (1st)
This entire set shows different specifics of, and in general, good Olimar play. This series in my mind at least is sorta what made Echo the figure he is today in the Olimer community here, and show the earliest excelling at Olimar specifics. These videos are as much a part of Olimar history as they are still some of the strongest examples of good Olimar play we have so far to learn from.




NOTABLE:
Next I have listed videos that are noted for specific reasons. Not quite all around great videos like above, but worth a look for specific reasons mentioned and general good play:


Echo vs Osiyo(MK): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc0Vy7BlMxI
This is the video example of purple pikmin throw to allow recovery. (So does Echo vs Karn(ROB)4) It also has good shield to USmash.

DSF vs Champ(Snake)3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Yc49GI7ZA
This is actually the 4th game of the series, but whats really important was the general good map control by DSF, through the entire match snake was mainly just recovering.

Me14k vs Kit(Snake) @FD: http://youtube.com/watch?v=xOnxUKgzBgs
A good show of pikmin throwing racking up damage, but also shows the hard lesson about needing to know and use Oli's KO moves.

Dan vs ROMEO(DeDeDe): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqfcA3a5fPo
In no way do we know everything there is to know about Olimar yet. This video is included here because of its interesting aggressive edge game tactics. Obviously not my idea of good positioning, but the only way to find new things is to try new things.




POOR:
Now for the bottom of the list, videos I'm not so sure should be kept on the thread.

Bowser:
1st Video Gimpy vs @ Summit: Perhaps their first time playing the game, weird map plus time spent getting used to characters in the start, and general low level play make this video =/
2nd Video @ FD: This is a CPU Olimar. I tried to watch it with an open mind, but really the comp simply did not impress me in any way.

Marth:
1st video Jimi vs Boxman @ FD: Poor play =/

Pokemon Trainer:
1st video on WarioWare: Was for a tv show, hosts are too busy talking to play, and stage is too busy to actually let them do much even if they were trying to.
2nd video @ FD: Again stomping a comp Olimar, not worth a viewers time as far as Olimar play goes.

Toon Link:
1st video @ Smashville: Poor play =/

Yoshi:
2nd video at FD: Again players first trying to get used to the characters, then very new/poor play follows.

Wolf:
4th video @ Custom Stage: The stage is pretty weird, a recreation of SSB64 Hyrule Temple. Items + Odd stage + video more showing the level than play = Not Worth Seeing for Olimar play.




Phew, so, there it is. The many other videos I didn't mention show a relatively average range of player ability and ideas, certainly worth watching if you have the time. If nothing else this hopefully gives people who cant see them all an idea of where to go for a start. Also removing the down videos at least, perhaps the poor ones also, will insure that any video listed is at least up and worth watching.


-True
 

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I didn't know Marth had a touch-screen and could be carried around in your pocket.
Well, you should pay more attention next time. He's quite the touch screen.

*looks around*
*crickets*
*shrugs*

But no really I just meant that it's comparable to how the iphone is considered the best and the one to beat.

Oh I'm making Pikmin sculptures by the way. Sure that was random and off-topic but I just wanted to share.
 

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TrueRedemption said:
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First, these video links no longer work:

Pokemon Trainer:
The 3rd video listed, supposedly at Final Destination (FD) is not there. Also, the 4th video is against sheik, not PKMNT.

Snake: The 6th video, Echo vs Knorr, is no longer up.

Wolf:The entire Tomato Soup vs Sniper series is down (videos 1-3).

Zelda: The 1st video, on Bridge, is down i'm 99% sure, it leads to ign so maybe its members only, but i think its just plain down.

-True
Thank you very much for this, I corrected/removed and non-functional videos up there. As for the Zelda one I was having trouble with it beforehand but I was hesitant to take if off because it was our only Zelda video we had, but alas, now it is removed for good.

Also, updated with all of the new videos.
 

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Wow... no interenet sucks, so much to read and upload after 5 days... sigh

Anyway... yeah I logged on and found quite a few pms all that say "WTF WHERES TEH COMBOS NUB!? I WANT YOUR OLIMAR" Or a much more dulled down version of that, I just like to spice things up.

1) Just got internet up at my place, Ill be compiling, rendering, adding, and finishing the video tomorrow, meaning Ill have it uploaded 1-2am on the 1st. (thanks myhustler hehe)

2) I only got like 16 pms so Ill post it for public viewing and send the link to whomever.

3) I just wanted to add a 3 so my post seemed more important...

Ill be working on my vid so I wont be posting much on the threads til its done. PM me if you want, Ill check those since they are forwarded to my email.
 

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I love theses videos. I watched them repeatedly just to see Olimar own. This thread is a win thread gj IllidR. Lol at commander blitzkrieg's location that video is so funny IMA FIRIN MAH LAZER!!!!!!!
 

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Hey guys. We just had a casual Brawl tourney here, and got videos of the entire thing. It's still being edited, but me and one other guy played Olimar pretty much the whole time. I'll post the videos when they're ready.

I won pretty well through the whole thing 'till I got taken down by Wolf >.<
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgJUsofOe-I this may be the video Commander B was talking about, if not its a worthy one to have up there just to explain what WAC is. Also IllidR there are HollaAtchaBoy's videos, not the best olimar play we've ever seen but an interesting new style/take on how to use Olimar, along with numerous attempted WACs in real game play. Those are organized in a playlist here: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=EC6E0830A32A0158 Forgive me for not doing the individual links: Characters(players) @stage organization, i'm sorta tired and have a lot more to cover for a midterm tomorrow.


-True
 

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Found a few new Olimar videos, so here we go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlPF9n70GPs Romo vs Tobias (ICs) @ Battlefield
At 0:25 Romo's UpB seemingly knocks nana off the stage and grabs the ledge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yKrf-EgD8w Romo vs Kal (Zelda) @ Pkmn Stadium
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esfZyifWKSU Romo vs Tobias (Samus) @ new starfox stage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY0nv60IBrk Romo vs Tobias (PT) @ new flipping samus stage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbG0aXZ-D3Q Romo vs Kal (Marth) @ Fire Emblem stage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_oq6k02jTU Romo vs Kal (Marth) @ new starfox stage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUkyurE5HJU Romo vs Kal (Marth) @ Yoshi seasons stage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zz_ljX4MjM Romo vs Hylian (Samus) @ Battlefield
At 1:07 notice the UpB doing Horizontal knockback for the kill?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlMOr63M0gQ Romo vs Hylian (Samus) @ Fire Emblem stage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1e0iSt-q_k Romo vs Hylian (Samus) @ FD
Notice when Romo rolls multiple times to approach samus. Does Olimar have a very good roll animation compared to other characters that we didn't notice?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMY8o70HxdI Romo vs Hylian (G&W) @ FD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJtWDfORAn4 Romo vs Tobias (Luigi) @ Yoshi seasons stage
This video is a week or so older than the rest, and Romo's game play reflects it some.


Overall they are some pretty good videos, the play isn't amazing with or against Olimar, but its definitely far from bad. For those of you who have been around the boards long enough I'm sure you'll recognize Hylian, a samus main who now has a good start on samus in Brawl.

Anyway, Romo demonstrates a new mixture of play styles, very reliant on Latch and FSmash. When not using one of these two moves, you'll find Romo uses UpB a lot offensively with mixed results. Also of note is at nearly any edge guarding opportunity Romo pushes for the spike, as well as always charging FSmash against people holding the ledge with some success.

So if nothing else its something to help pass this last week. Its been a while since we've had a good update of new videos, and most of these are great to watch, coming down to high %s on the last stock each. Enjoy!


-True
 

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I see I've got quite a bit of videos to update. I'll put them all up later in the day, I don't have much time right now.

Also, I ask with Brawl coming out in America soon to not post your Olimar videos right away, wait until after those first few matches with Olimar so you know what you're doing. =P
 

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IllidR I know this will be a pain but if you don't mind could you change my tag on the videos you have up to NC-Echo, just to avoid confussion.
 

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Yay Olimar. I can hardly wait to do all the stuff I've up until now only been able to watch.

I'm goin' Olimar at the GameStop tourny. eF Ike teH n00b killzor, I need to play my Olimar badly. D:
 

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Yay Olimar. I can hardly wait to do all the stuff I've up until now only been able to watch.

I'm goin' Olimar at the GameStop tourny. eF Ike teH n00b killzor, I need to play my Olimar badly. D:
Same, Olimar is going to be my GameStop tourney character, and I shall show those others what a Pikmin team will do.

Anyway, seeing as how I'm probably getting the game today I won't be updating this page for a couple of days, until I've played myself dry with Olimar and must take a break.
 

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Thanks True and IllidR for putting up my vids. I'll have you know that my camera is joining me at a Smashfest tonight where my (insanely) bettered Olimar will be playing and taking peoples' money.

WACs a plenty!
 

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I just posted a lot of new videos. I don't win all of them this time but thats because my friends have gotten a lot better. I recommend watching them if you have the time; I have improved a great deal. There are also a lot of examples of whistle armor. I hope you enjoy.

Pokemon Trainer (Projectiled) vs. Fox (Karn)
<--- not an Olimar match but probably Projectiled's best showing. Watch this video!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZH9h9_kk54


Olimar (NC-Echo) vs. Robot (Karn) 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiBp8ysQIX8

Olimar (NC-Echo) vs. Pokemon Trainer (Projectiled) 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1mvC5ZH4gg

Olimar (NC-Echo) vs. Pokemon Trainer (Projectiled) 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8afTloipCZ4

Olimar (NC-Echo) vs. Robot (Karn) 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDRWVcr5zQ0

Olimar (NC-Echo) vs. Fox (Karn)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A4l2UFsPKg

Olimar (NC-Echo) vs. Robot (Karn) 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZeri8Xq654

Olimar (NC-Echo) vs. Fox (Karn) 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srErEzuuuXs
 
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