Olimar Kirby

[Urser]

So since it is revealed that Pikmin are essential to Olimar's moves. Does this mean Kirby will also produce Pikmin so he can use his standard 'B' move as Olimar Kirby?

 

[LaniusShrike]

Yeah, I was wondering that too. I'm guessing the neutral B move just won't have anything to do with the pikmin? Otherwise it just seems like Olimar would be one of the best enemies to swallow if he supplies soldiers to Kirby.

Regardless- Kirby with Olimar's helmet will be awesome. Astronaut Kirby!

 

[DeChTu]

Regardless- Kirby with Olimar's helmet will be awesome. Astronaut Kirby!

I just hope they don't cop out and just give him the antenna with the spark. Because Astronaut Kirby WOULD definitely own.

 

[Super Drybones]

Kirby should have pnik pikmin

 

[MK-Ultra]

Kirby should have pnik pikmin

So, so true...

 

[Blue_Kirby]

Here's a question for you guys.

I've been thinking about the whole Olimar thing and I know this is a long shot but.

What if he had the power to suck up pikmin as well as Olimar himself? If we use the idea that every pikmin b standard move has a differant effect it could work. Besides there is just something awesome about kirby with the flower on his head.

 

[Ryuujiin]

Now that we know Olimar's B move is picking Pikmin out of the ground, what do you think Kirby'll do with it? Would Kirby just pluck out some kind of pikmin too? How would he use them?

 

[Lord Viper]

Now that we know Olimar's B move is picking Pikmin out of the ground, what do you think Kirby'll do with it? Would Kirby just pluck out some kind of pikmin too? How would he use them?

I was thinking it would make better use whey he do some Smash attacks or throws.

 

[DstyCube]

I wonder if Kirby can copy individual pikmin? They gave all the little nice stats that each color of pikmin grant, maybe Kirby would gain those abilities too if he can copy them?

 

[CK20XX]

This... well... at a glance, this seems like it might be Kirby's only useless B move. Without Olimar's other B moves, how can Kirby use Pikmin? He can't throw them (Forward + B), make a chain with them (Up +B), or call them to his side (Down + B). But perhaps they'll act as decoys and be semi-independent. In the Pikmin games, you can have Pikmin attack by leading them to an enemy, not just by throwing them... but that sounds like it might be a little cheap in Smash Bros.

Hm...

 

[Williampettysan]

No, he will just use them for smash attacks and some arieals... They work exactly the same as Olimar... Just you can't throw them ect...

 

[DstyCube]

I agree that he would just use them to enhance his normal attacks. But if he does, could this mean that when Kirby copies opponents he can gain some of their normal attacks too?

 

[Xarias]

Did you guys ever think that Olimar can still literally DO his smashes and other attacks, but without his Pikmin, he'll have so little range and power, its worthless. Its not like they can make you UNABLE to insert the command for a Smash attack, they have to have SOMETHING happen.

The way I see it working is, say Olimar's Forward Smash is a big swinging punch. Without a Pikmin, his stubby arms aren't gonna do much, but if he grabs, say, a red Pikmin, then suddenly the attack has more reach, and a fire element, as well as above average damage. After the attack, the red Pikmin is either dead, or returns to the back of the line. Then he does another Smash attack, and he grabs a yellow Pikmin, adding even more reach, an electric property, and average damage. It cycles.

When Kirby uses the Pikmin Pluck to get Pikmin following him, it works in a slightly different way. Kirby does a Forward Smash, and his attack gains whatever properties the current Pikmin gives. So Kirby would burn his opponent and deal more damage if a red Pikmin were next, and he'd kick out farther, and shock his opponent if a yellow Pikmin were next.

An alternate way of looking at it is, maybe Kirby doesn't suck up OLIMAR, but the Pikmin themselves! All of his attacks could gain the properties of whichever Pikmin he absorbs.

 

[Williampettysan]

Sakurai said Olimar can't do a Smash attack without them.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Kirby will most likely NOT use them with his smash attacks...seeing as they are OLIMAR'S smash attacks that use the Pikmin...and that's the only smash attacks he has

 

[Xarias]

Sakurai said Olimar can't do a Smash attack without them.

Well an attack with pitiful range and power can't really be called a SMASH attack, can it?

So if Olimar just 'can't perform' a Smash attack without Pikmin, then what happens when you input the commands for a Smash attack on your controller? Something has to happen.

 

[DstyCube]

So what would be the point of copying Olimar's move if you can't actually use it?

*Edit*

Well an attack with pitiful range and power can't really be called a SMASH attack, can it?

So if Olimar just 'can't perform' a Smash attack without Pikmin, then what happens when input the commands for a Smash attack on your controller? Something has to happen.

What happens if you try to grab a turnip with peach in mid-air? Nothing happens.

 

[solrac_krad]

My guess is that if he swallows Olimar, he can pluck the pikmin out of the ground and theyll follow himm around acting by themselves (atacking by their will), and maybe he can swallos pikim an gain some abilities, like fire breathing and fire inmunity or stuff like that, or just the color and their flower or leaf

 

[Xarias]

So what would be the point of copying Olimar's move if you can't actually use it?

*Edit*


What happens if you try to grab a turnip with peach in mid-air? Nothing happens.

That's not the same though. Standard moves are always capable of being performed, specials are, well, special.

 

[DstyCube]

The point I was trying to make was that something doesn't have to happen lol. I just don't like when people use absolutes because there's usually another possibility.

Okay, well if Sakurai says that Olimar can't do a smash attack if he doesn't have any pikmin, I'm gonna have to take his word for it since I haven't played Olimar, and he did create the game. But maybe something does happen? Maybe he could do an attack animation, but maybe it doesn't do any damage. Is that enough of a 'something' to happen if you try do a smash attack without any pikmin out?

 

[courte]

yeah wtf huh?? whats he gonna do?? my immediate guess is that he'd get the eyes and the hair w/ the anternae but after that... i am so confused I CAN"T WAIT!!

 

[lumberheartwood]

I think in this case, Kirby will actually have all of Olimar's movelist or else the Pikmin will scatter. This is probably the only character Kirby will fully be able to use all their moves. I think Olimar Kirby will be a combination of Olimar's moves with his float ability staying intact, as well as his taunts (and that taunt to toss the power away). It makes sense. Or else, it would be too chaotic.

Rumor around the net is that Kirby can suck items too. Does this mean he can suck in Pikmin too?...

 

[Xarias]

The point I was trying to make was that something doesn't have to happen lol. I just don't like when people use absolutes because there's usually another possibility.

Okay, well if Sakurai says that Olimar can't do a smash attack if he doesn't have any pikmin, I'm gonna have to take his word for it since I haven't played Olimar, and he did create the game. But maybe something does happen? Maybe he could do an attack animation, but maybe it doesn't do any damage. Is that enough of a 'something' to happen if you try do a smash attack without any pikmin out?

Yes. A whiff is better than no animations at all.

Besides, if there was no animations when you tried to do a Forward Smash, wouldn't you just end up running forward, maybe accidentally doing a dash attack?

 

[courte]

Kirby will most likely NOT use them with his smash attacks...seeing as they are OLIMAR'S smash attacks that use the Pikmin...and that's the only smash attacks he has

falcon punch fireball the list goes on

 

[Williampettysan]

The pikmin will just power up Kirby's moves. :o

But then again, the Blue one would do nothing........

 

[Xarias]

The pikmin will just power up Kirby's moves. :o

But then again, the Blue one would do nothing........

The blue would just give increased damage.

 

[tennisthehilife]

Maybe Kirby has a lessened version of Olimar, like picks and throws random color pikmin where they attach to opponents and constantly attack/drain their hp, but nothing more.

 

[Ca$hoholic]

I hope that kirby takes up the kirby and uses them with his smash attacks, if not then it just for show...

 

[DstyCube]

I hope that kirby takes up the pikmin and uses them with his smash attacks, if not then it just for show...

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[Urser]

I'm thinking that Kirby will pick up a Pikmin and then hold it in his hands. Then he can throw them as if they are a normal item. That'd be the best guess.

 

[Eldezar]

I think this will help to develop Kirby's character a bit more. It used to be all you did was suck in an enemy and get their B-move, but with Olimar it looks like he will be affected differently.

Someone said he sucks in Olimar and gets the B-move to pluck Pikmin from the ground. Well, he can't throw them or use them as grapple or anything like that, prolly not even change them or call back with a whistle, but there is nothing aying he can't grab them and implement them into his smash attacks.

And if it works this way, I think it will make Kirby more true to his original concept, where he copies more than just the basic move of an enemy, but a lot more of the bonuses as well. Sure he can suck in Link, but he doesn't become sword Kirby like he did with other sword characters in his original games. Or Pikachu and suddenly gaining more of an electrical burst to his attacks, he only got the one thunder jolt move.

Basically, if copying Olimar will do the above, I think he will help make Kirby more like he is in his original games, which I believe they are trying to do with every character, and I like that.

 

[Tomato Kirby]

I just hope the ability is useful. I guess I will just otherwise use Star Shot if it does nothing. That would mean it is less useful than something like Falcon Punch, and that is bad.

 

[DrLuigi]

While Olimar can pick up to 6 Pikmin, then what does his B move do? Maybe it does another move that we don't know about let like an attack trumpet or something.

Kirby could just get 6 Pikmin and then use whatever happens then.

 

[t!MmY]

You know, even if all Kirby can do with Olimar's hat is pull up Pikmin to follow him around and nothing else... that's still pretty cool.

 

[Deserter]

maybe he plucks them like peach turnips and is then able to throw them like teh turnips?

 

[DrLuigi]

After looking at the picture again,

it looks like Olimar picks the Pikmin out with some force. So maybe it does some damage too

 

[Formula1]

Kirby... What a good question

Olimar kirby plucks out pikmin
-Uses Hammer to bat them at people (maybe)

Otherwise yeah they're just freindlies that attck close enemies

 

[Prinkachu]

meybe they act as an armor? when someone is about to attack Kirby the Pikmin jumps and take the attack himself! maybe it would be a bit broken...

 

[shinzou]

I think the pikmin will act semi independant, because whats the point of having olimars down+b if they never separate from him...

 

[fluffy1021]

i hope so. and i think i heard kirby can suck up items now too. if this is true, i hope when he sucks them up, it isnt the same as sucking in a character. for example, if kirby sucks up a fireflower, i hope he doesnt just turn into bowser kirby or charazard kirby.