Door Key Pig
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Twilight Princess Zelda
In Brawl, Sheik was specifically given a (scrapped?) Twilight Princess design to match the rest of the Zelda cast minus of course Toon Link. And they both kept these designs in Smash 4, perhaps only being separated because of 3DS limitations in transforming characters, right? And when it comes to Ultimate, she not only retains the ponytail of this TP design, spruced up with some BotW wear, but the Palutena's Guidance specifically refers to her with familiarity in relation to the previous PG of Smash 4, in which she was still TP Zelda. And these specifically clarified about incarnations, saying Link was a different incarnation to the one Pit fought before and Zelda was the one from ALttP.
Smash 4:
Sheik
Pit: I wish I knew Sheik's true identity.
Palutena: It is one of the great mysteries of our time.
Viridi: Are you guys for real? You can't be serious.
Palutena: Compared to the other fighters, Sheik moves very quickly. Don't get overwhelmed by Sheik's speed, especially one-on-one.
Ultimate:
Pit: It's Sheik!
Palutena: Sheik appears to be wearing a traditional Sheikah outfit this time around.
Viridi: Ooh! So exotic! That armor is right up my alley. I wonder if it comes in a children's small...
Pit: I always get nervous when Sheik gets close. If I make one wrong move, I'll get pummeled with a flurry of quick attacks!
Palutena: His attacks may be fast, but they aren't very strong. That's why he'll try to end the fight quickly. He's also very light, so focus on launching Sheik at lower damage percentages.
Viridi: And he doesn't have much reach, so keep your distance until you're ready to rush him with your Upperdash Arm.
Pit: Good advice! But... you guys do know Sheik is just Zelda, right? In disguise? Wait, is there a new timeline?!
A decision was also made to also keep Zelda and Sheik separate like in Smash 4, although maybe they only saw that appropriate exclusively for the Pokemon Trainer anyway. It also begs the question if this is OoT Sheik, why she lacks her original design faithful to that game unlike Ganondorf. She has that in Hyrule Warriors, after all. She also lacks her voice actress from Melee, but also from her TP Brawl/Smash 4 appearance because it was the same actress.
Ocarina of Time Zelda
The only canonical "Sheik" there is. Even in Smash games where she clearly bares TP design elements, she is still described in the trophies and hints within the context of that appearance. Yes there has been a "non-canonical" Sheik in Smash Bros before, but the only thing linking to that currently is design in her ponytail and the stretch of the aforementioned PG reference, so she can at worst, be viewed as the original OoT Zelda in the highest capacity since Melee and at best, simply seen as that incarnation instead because "who cares about those two tiny TP things". With the TP design connection no longer being special when she also takes elements from BotW oddly, she can be seen as her joining the other Zelda character Ultimate redesigns with a new voice actress; alongside not having a technical reason to keep her and Zelda separate anymore YET perhaps going for different takes on both Zelda and Sheik (and giving each Zelda character their "proper" look with Link being his recent BotW look, Zelda being a design related to the recent ALBW and Ganondorf being his classic design), perhaps this is an iteration representing the original Sheik alongside the ALttP Zelda that just happened to be decked out with the cooler looking BotW/TP design elements as mentioned in the section below. Also should mention how in Ultimate, she actually gets masculine pronouns perhaps to better suit her canon character than before.
Breath of the Wild Zelda even though that doesn't make sense because Sakurai explicitly pointed out that BotW Zelda wasn't suited for fighting and that's why ALttP Zelda is in the game, also she's totally the ALttP Zelda and not the LBW Zelda because of her Palutena's Guidance, even if her design takes from both
She strangely is adorned with the Breath of the Wild Sheikh kit that's based off of her. This could merely be for aesthetically pleasing reasons or that happening to be the most modern Zelda look reference for the Sheikh clothing, making an updated, modern Sheik look in accordance with her TP look's ponytail, instead of just taking from the OoT look like with Ganondorf. THAT thus being Sheik's "definitive" look for this "Smash ULTIMATE" game instead. Something I should note though is that while Zelda couldn't be her BotW incarnation because she was unsuited for fighting, it's odd that Sheik on the other hand, DOES have BotW influence in her design, as if they were BOTH going to be BoTW-based to match Link, and then after changing course with Zelda's direction they just kept Sheik as she was in that idea for whatever reason. After all, we have reason to believe there was a "Toon Sheik" planned for Brawl despite Sheik never appearing in those Toon games, so why not for a game where she at least has clothing based off of her?
The Link to the Past Zelda featured in this game even though it's unprecedented for THAT Zelda to have a Sheik form, but oh wait I just said they can totally make Sheiks for any Zelda in the last section, whoops
Uh, they happen to share the same voice actress in this game for whatever reason that came from the ALBW portrayal for this Zelda. Maybe just to keep parity, though.
Ambiguous/general, like the mysterious character herself
Other answer (please list below)
I don't even play Zelda games, this just bugs me.
In Brawl, Sheik was specifically given a (scrapped?) Twilight Princess design to match the rest of the Zelda cast minus of course Toon Link. And they both kept these designs in Smash 4, perhaps only being separated because of 3DS limitations in transforming characters, right? And when it comes to Ultimate, she not only retains the ponytail of this TP design, spruced up with some BotW wear, but the Palutena's Guidance specifically refers to her with familiarity in relation to the previous PG of Smash 4, in which she was still TP Zelda. And these specifically clarified about incarnations, saying Link was a different incarnation to the one Pit fought before and Zelda was the one from ALttP.
Smash 4:
Sheik
Pit: I wish I knew Sheik's true identity.
Palutena: It is one of the great mysteries of our time.
Viridi: Are you guys for real? You can't be serious.
Palutena: Compared to the other fighters, Sheik moves very quickly. Don't get overwhelmed by Sheik's speed, especially one-on-one.
Ultimate:
Pit: It's Sheik!
Palutena: Sheik appears to be wearing a traditional Sheikah outfit this time around.
Viridi: Ooh! So exotic! That armor is right up my alley. I wonder if it comes in a children's small...
Pit: I always get nervous when Sheik gets close. If I make one wrong move, I'll get pummeled with a flurry of quick attacks!
Palutena: His attacks may be fast, but they aren't very strong. That's why he'll try to end the fight quickly. He's also very light, so focus on launching Sheik at lower damage percentages.
Viridi: And he doesn't have much reach, so keep your distance until you're ready to rush him with your Upperdash Arm.
Pit: Good advice! But... you guys do know Sheik is just Zelda, right? In disguise? Wait, is there a new timeline?!
A decision was also made to also keep Zelda and Sheik separate like in Smash 4, although maybe they only saw that appropriate exclusively for the Pokemon Trainer anyway. It also begs the question if this is OoT Sheik, why she lacks her original design faithful to that game unlike Ganondorf. She has that in Hyrule Warriors, after all. She also lacks her voice actress from Melee, but also from her TP Brawl/Smash 4 appearance because it was the same actress.
Ocarina of Time Zelda
The only canonical "Sheik" there is. Even in Smash games where she clearly bares TP design elements, she is still described in the trophies and hints within the context of that appearance. Yes there has been a "non-canonical" Sheik in Smash Bros before, but the only thing linking to that currently is design in her ponytail and the stretch of the aforementioned PG reference, so she can at worst, be viewed as the original OoT Zelda in the highest capacity since Melee and at best, simply seen as that incarnation instead because "who cares about those two tiny TP things". With the TP design connection no longer being special when she also takes elements from BotW oddly, she can be seen as her joining the other Zelda character Ultimate redesigns with a new voice actress; alongside not having a technical reason to keep her and Zelda separate anymore YET perhaps going for different takes on both Zelda and Sheik (and giving each Zelda character their "proper" look with Link being his recent BotW look, Zelda being a design related to the recent ALBW and Ganondorf being his classic design), perhaps this is an iteration representing the original Sheik alongside the ALttP Zelda that just happened to be decked out with the cooler looking BotW/TP design elements as mentioned in the section below. Also should mention how in Ultimate, she actually gets masculine pronouns perhaps to better suit her canon character than before.
Breath of the Wild Zelda even though that doesn't make sense because Sakurai explicitly pointed out that BotW Zelda wasn't suited for fighting and that's why ALttP Zelda is in the game, also she's totally the ALttP Zelda and not the LBW Zelda because of her Palutena's Guidance, even if her design takes from both
She strangely is adorned with the Breath of the Wild Sheikh kit that's based off of her. This could merely be for aesthetically pleasing reasons or that happening to be the most modern Zelda look reference for the Sheikh clothing, making an updated, modern Sheik look in accordance with her TP look's ponytail, instead of just taking from the OoT look like with Ganondorf. THAT thus being Sheik's "definitive" look for this "Smash ULTIMATE" game instead. Something I should note though is that while Zelda couldn't be her BotW incarnation because she was unsuited for fighting, it's odd that Sheik on the other hand, DOES have BotW influence in her design, as if they were BOTH going to be BoTW-based to match Link, and then after changing course with Zelda's direction they just kept Sheik as she was in that idea for whatever reason. After all, we have reason to believe there was a "Toon Sheik" planned for Brawl despite Sheik never appearing in those Toon games, so why not for a game where she at least has clothing based off of her?
The Link to the Past Zelda featured in this game even though it's unprecedented for THAT Zelda to have a Sheik form, but oh wait I just said they can totally make Sheiks for any Zelda in the last section, whoops
Uh, they happen to share the same voice actress in this game for whatever reason that came from the ALBW portrayal for this Zelda. Maybe just to keep parity, though.
Ambiguous/general, like the mysterious character herself
Other answer (please list below)
I don't even play Zelda games, this just bugs me.