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Official Knuckles Thread

Meta_Sonic64

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Now I do know that there has been multiple Knuckles threads here, but I've searched and didn't find an OFFICIAL Knuckles thread. I decided to make this one. Now I know that the odds of Knux getting in is quite slim, but who's to say Sakurai won't add another Sonic character (NOTE: you can make any arguments about not adding 2 characters from 1 3rd Party, but truth is, you are not Sakurai and it is his decision of whether he wants to or not) .


Knuckles "Knux" the Echidna:
Knuckles is a red, powerful echidna with sharp knuckles. He made his debut on February 2, 1994 via Sonic the Hedgehog 3. He is known to have dreadlocks and a crescent birthmark on his chest. Knuckles possesses mighty strength, ability to dig and glide, and 2 sharp knuckles on each of his fist and he is very gullible. Knuckles likes to be alone and takes everything seriously. Knuckles can be a little hot-headed over some things and seems to be easily frustrated(in which Sonic refers to him as "Knuckle-head") Knuckles lives on Angel Island, where his task since birth has been to protect the Master Emerald. Knuckles is Sonic's rival and in some cases they do have disagreements, which usually results in a battle that goes to no contest(either a disturbance or a truce). Even though they don't always see eye to eye, Knuckles and Sonic usually team up together for their troubles. Knuckles has appeared in several Sonic games as well as comics and anime. (NOTE: I may change or update this from time to time).

Stats
Speed- Knuckles is known to be slow, but not sloooooow. Knuckles will be a tad bit slower than Mario(correct me if I'm wrong)
Weight- Knuckles isn't really heavy and would weigh a little bit more than Sonic

Moveset
Throws
Z -(Grab)- Knuckles grabs the opponent with both hands
Z, A-(Punch)- Knuckles holds the opponent with one hand while punching with the other
Z, >-(Sock'em)-Knuckles lets go of his opponent, puts both fist together and socks the opponent in the face (think of Vegeta, it's similar to his attack)
Z, <-(Rolling Throw)- Knuckles takes his opponent and and does a backward somersault to throw his opponent
Z, v-(Beat Down)- Knuckles throws the opponent down and unleashes many punch to the stomach
Z,/\-(Throw)-Knuckles uses both hands, turns around and throws the opponent up

Normal Attacks (Ground)
A,A,A -(punch combo)- Knuckles does three consecutive punches
>A -(Punch)- A simple punch to the face.
vA -(Body Shot)- Knuckles punches the enemy in the stomach
/\A -(Uppercut)- Knuckles does a normal uppercut.
Dash A -(Spin Attack)- Knuckles will curl into a ball and hit the opponent(similar to Sonic, but weaker)

Normal Attacks (Air)
A -(Mid-air punch)- Knuckles does a plain punch, this time in mid-air.
>A -(Super punch)- Knuckles does a powerful punch(similar to Mario, but knocks the opponent back instead of down)
<A -(Backfist)- Knuckles hits and back punch and spins afterward(similar to C. Falcon)
vA -(Double fist slam)- Knuckles uses both his fist and slams down on an opponent(similar to DK)
/\A -(Skyward Punch)- Knuckles swings his fist up while spinning around

Smash Attacks
>A -(Might Punch)- Knuckles simply unleashes a powerful punch with high knockback ability
vA -(Sweeping punch)- Knuckles punches the opponent's legs
/\A -(Power Uppercut)- Knuckles kneels down and unleashes a powerful uppercut

Special Moves
B -(Fire Punch)-Knuckles will move forward a bit and unleash a flaming punch(has lag after performing, but can be comboed by hitting the B button 3 times max)

>B -(Shockwave)- Knuckles will punch the ground with so much force that it triggers a tremor, or fault-like attack along the ground, which hits the opponent(distance attack)

vB -(Drill Attack)- Knuckles will dig underground and will attack when he pops up(similar to MK's cape, in which you can dig in any direction you want for a certain period of time)

vB(air)-(Drill Claw)- Knuckles will spin with his claws pointing down in a spiral in a downward direction towards the ground(this attack may trap the opponent like MK's Triple Dash)

/\B -(Sky Uppercut)- Knuckles will unleash a powerful uppercut in a spiral

Other Abilities
Gliding-self explanatory(MK, Pit, and Charizard)
Wall Climbing-if Knux is added this could be a new feature

Final Smash
Master Emerald-Knuckles will call upon the Master Emerald, which will then float down from the top of the screen toward the ground and generate a huge bright light around it once it reaches the ground(explosion/Chaos Control, that looks similar to Vegeta's Final Explosion, but the energy is white) Knuckles will be invulnerable to the Master Emerald's Chaos Control.

Taunt
Knuckles will fold his arms and mumble something

Knuckles Alternate Costumes
Hyper Knuckles(Pink)- Knuckles Appear as Hyper Knuckles or in Pink recoloring
Sinbad the Sailor-Knuckles appears as Sinbad(from SSR)
Young Knuckles- Knuckles appear as he very first appeared in the Sonic cartoon, with his detective hat and etc.
Tikal or One of the Echidna People-Knuckles will appear as Tikal or one of his species from the past before the emerald incident(with tape on the dreadlocks and etc.)

Stage
Angel Island- Similar to the Battlefield stage. It has the Master Emerald in the background and the stage is over the ocean. Occasionally the Master Emerald will glow and disappear from it's position(Chaos Control) and the stage will fall down to the ocean. When the Master Emerald reappears, the stage will float back up into the sky into its original position above the ocean. The stage can change from day to night. Sometimes Chao will float above the stage and deliver items (like Shy Guys).
 

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I'd rather Knuckles over Sonic anyday in a game like this, but b/c he isn't the main character of the series it's basically impossible for him to be in instead of Sonic. He would make a great addition to the roster, with his fighting style and etc.
 

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uugghh one reason sakurai wouldnt put him in is that it would be bad buisness. plus saldy tails out prioritizes knuckles. and the over population rule for third parties is two is two many, this is a given.
 

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uugghh one reason sakurai wouldnt put him in is that it would be bad buisness. plus saldy tails out prioritizes knuckles. and the over population rule for third parties is two is two many, this is a given.
This doesn't necessarily mean that Sakurai wouldn't put in another Sonic character. And you mentioned that lousy fox of which I despise. I do get your points, but you can't stop someone from having hope. I know his chances are slim, but even if Knux is an AT I'll be happy, but I'd rather him be a PC. Does anyone like any of my ideas for Knux? I'd appreciate some compliments rather than negative comments :(
 

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Did you not read my first paragraph? And no Tails is not way better. What makes Tails so much better than Knuckles? Other than popularity and being a sidekick, what does Tails supposedly possess that would make him a better fit in Brawl than Knux?
I did, that IS the official Knuckles thread, just because you decided to post the title with the word official doesn't make it official, check the Character Index next time.
 

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Knux is pimp but he won't make it in Brawl.
Atleast you posted a compliment, but I do feel that he'll make it (even if he's not a PC).

I did, that IS the official Knuckles thread, just because you decided to post the title with the word official doesn't make it official, check the Character Index next time.
Doesn't look like an official Knux thread. It appears to only be a moveset thread.
 

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sorry, knuckles has a 7 divided by 0 chance of being in brawl. the reason being his friend Sonic. It's less than doubtful that TWO Sonic reps will be in brawl, Nintendo is much more creative.
 

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I would only want Knuckles as my 2nd choice after Tails, I wonder how they would implement the gliding ability if he was playable though because climbing wall would be a bit broken in some stages.
 

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I would really like to have Knuckles in Brawl, although his chances are dangerously low. He's been my favorite Sonic character since the beginning, and he's red.

Anyway, he probably won't be in because of the following:
1. Low chance that Sonic will have another PC.
2. I hate to admit it, but Tails would probably get in before him.
3. Extremely low chance Sonic will have three reps.

But who knows, Sakurai is unpredictable and random. I really hope he gets in, but his chances are slim to none.
 

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I would really like to have Knuckles in Brawl, although his chances are dangerously low. He's been my favorite Sonic character since the beginning, and he's red. Come on, who doesn't like red stuff?

Anyway, he probably won't be in because of the following:
1. Low chance that Sonic will have another PC.
2. I hate to admit it, but Tails would probably get in before him.
3. Extremely low chance Sonic will have three reps.

But who knows, Sakurai is unpredictable and random. I really hope he gets in, but his chances are slim to none.
Menstrual blood is red. And I can't say I'm a fan of that.

And although what I'm about to say is really off topic, this thread's pretty much dissolved into repeating the same points and counters over and over again.

The lack of Tails love (not just on this board, but in general) troubles me. At one point, Knuckles was my favorite character too. And I still quite like him. But I don't think many people give Tails enough credit for what he is. In a series where "badass" characters reign supreme, Tails represents a very underrated personality type. He's a soft-spoken character who isn't annoying or overly weak (Okay, I guess that's subjective, but compare him to a character like Amy or Cream. Yeah, I thought so). I think people often have too large a bias against the meeker characters, so in a series like Sonic, being so saturated with "cool" characters, Tails gets overlooked. There are just too many BAMFs to spread the love to.

I don't know. I'd just like to see Tails appreciated a little more. And for some reason this thread brought out the inner Tails fanboy in me.
 

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Menstrual blood is red. And I can't say I'm a fan of that.

And although what I'm about to say is really off topic, this thread's pretty much dissolved into repeating the same points and counters over and over again.

The lack of Tails love (not just on this board, but in general) troubles me. At one point, Knuckles was my favorite character too. And I still quite like him. But I don't think many people give Tails enough credit for what he is. In a series where "badass" characters reign supreme, Tails represents a very underrated personality type. He's a soft-spoken character who isn't annoying or overly weak (Okay, I guess that's subjective, but compare him to a character like Amy or Cream. Yeah, I thought so). I think people often have too large a bias against the meeker characters, so in a series like Sonic, being so saturated with "cool" characters, Tails gets overlooked. There are just too many BAMFs to spread the love to.

I don't know. I'd just like to see Tails appreciated a little more. And for some reason this thread brought out the inner Tails fanboy in me.
*Is disturbed*
*Edits post*
 

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*Is disturbed*
*Edits post*
Good man (er. . . woman?).

But in general yeah, red's nice. Bold. Worthy of a strong body part such as. . . well, you know (I need to stop doing this).
 

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Sadly, I don't Knuckles will make it, but I love the idea. I think you should give Knuckles a little more speed, he wasn't that slow in the games, he def weighs more than Sonic so good work there, the moves are fine, but I don't think youll get a way with wall climbing.

One gripe I have is that Knuckles FS should be Hyper Knuckles. I do like your final smash idea which is more original but I'm remembering being Hyper Knuckles and loving it.

My verison would be...
Final Smash Hyper Knuckles: Does NOT float around like Super Sonic, but...increased speed, faster to deliever attacks, strength increases thus attacks add signifcant damage, invincibile for however long its supposed to be, would shift between the red and pink colors like in the games...somewhat more classis of his ultimate form. Nonetheless, I like it.
 

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Thank you for your appreciation. Wall climbing won't be in, but it's a huge possibility. I mean there is swimming and plenty of other stuff. If something happens and Knux does get in, I'll be the happiest guy alive.
 

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Stats
Speed- Knuckles is known to be slow, but not sloooooow. Knuckles will be a tad bit slower than Mario(correct me if I'm wrong)
Weight- Knuckles isn't really heavy and would weigh a little bit more than Sonic

Moveset
Throws
Z -(Grab)- Knuckles grabs the opponent with both hands
Z, A-(Punch)- Knuckles holds the opponent with one hand while punching with the other
Z, >-(Sock'em)-Knuckles lets go of his opponent, puts both fist together and socks the opponent in the face (think of Vegeta, it's similar to his attack)
Z, <-(Rolling Throw)- Knuckles takes his opponent and and does a backward somersault to throw his opponent
Z, v-(Beat Down)- Knuckles throws the opponent down and unleashes many punch to the stomach
Z,/\-(Throw)-Knuckles uses both hands, turns around and throws the opponent up

Normal Attacks (Ground)
A,A,A -(punch combo)- Knuckles does three consecutive punches
>A -(Punch)- A simple punch to the face.
vA -(Body Shot)- Knuckles punches the enemy in the stomach
/\A -(Uppercut)- Knuckles does a normal uppercut.
Dash A -(Spin Attack)- Knuckles will curl into a ball and hit the opponent(similar to Sonic, but weaker)

Normal Attacks (Air)
A -(Mid-air punch)- Knuckles does a plain punch, this time in mid-air.
>A -(Super punch)- Knuckles does a powerful punch(similar to Mario, but knocks the opponent back instead of down)
<A -(Backfist)- Knuckles hits and back punch and spins afterward(similar to C. Falcon)
vA -(Double fist slam)- Knuckles uses both his fist and slams down on an opponent(similar to DK)
/\A -(Skyward Punch)- Knuckles swings his fist up while spinning around

Smash Attacks
>A -(Might Punch)- Knuckles simply unleashes a powerful punch with high knockback ability
vA -(Sweeping punch)- Knuckles punches the opponent's legs
/\A -(Power Uppercut)- Knuckles kneels down and unleashes a powerful uppercut

Special Moves
B -(Fire Punch)-Knuckles will move forward a bit and unleash a flaming punch(has lag after performing, but can be comboed by hitting the B button 3 times max)

>B -(Shockwave)- Knuckles will punch the ground with so much force that it triggers a tremor, or fault-like attack along the ground, which hits the opponent(distance attack)

vB -(Drill Attack)- Knuckles will dig underground and will attack when he pops up(similar to MK's cape, in which you can dig in any direction you want for a certain period of time)

vB(air)-(Drill Claw)- Knuckles will spin with his claws pointing down in a spiral in a downward direction towards the ground(this attack may trap the opponent like MK's Triple Dash)

/\B -(Sky Uppercut)- Knuckles will unleash a powerful uppercut in a spiral

Other Abilities
Gliding-self explanatory(MK, Pit, and Charizard)
Wall Climbing-if Knux is added this could be a new feature

Final Smash
Master Emerald-Knuckles will call upon the Master Emerald, which will then float down from the top of the screen toward the ground and generate a huge bright light around it once it reaches the ground(explosion/Chaos Control, that looks similar to Vegeta's Final Explosion, but the energy is white) Knuckles will be invulnerable to the Master Emerald's Chaos Control.

Taunt
Knuckles will fold his arms and mumble something

Knuckles Alternate Costumes
Hyper Knuckles(Pink)- Knuckles Appear as Hyper Knuckles or in Pink recoloring
Sinbad the Sailor-Knuckles appears as Sinbad(from SSR)
Young Knuckles- Knuckles appear as he very first appeared in the Sonic cartoon, with his detective hat and etc.
Tikal or One of the Echidna People-Knuckles will appear as Tikal or one of his species from the past before the emerald incident(with tape of the dreadlocks and etc.)

Stage
Angel Island- Similar to the Battlefield stage. It has the Master Emerald in the background and the stage is over the ocean. Occasionally the Master Emerald will glow and disappear from it's position(Chaos Control) and the stage will fall down to the ocean. When the Master Emerald reappears, the stage will float back up into the sky into its original position above the ocean. The stage can change from day to night. Sometimes Chao will float above the stage and deliver items (like Shy Guys).

wow! what a great moveset, I definetly would like to se him in Brawl, even though his chances are slim, so yea I approve of this thread, Knuckels for Brawl!!
 

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Thank you, and for those of you who are flaming me, atleast this thread isn't nonsense like some I've seen. I mean there's threads like Naruto for Brawl and etc. Atleast this one has a purpose in my mind.
 

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I've got to admit, I'm a support of Knux making it into Brawl in some form or another. While it'd be cool if he were indeed playable (it's not impossible, really), I'd gladly settle for him being an assist trophy, which seems fairly likely. Truthfully, I personally feel he holds sway over Tails in terms of making it into the game itself in any form. I mean, sure, Tails was introduced in the Sonic games way before that of Knuckles, but the latter is just so much cooler than the former that it makes little difference. Miles "Tails" Prower just seems like a crybaby emo of a turd when compared to the sheer awesomeness of Knuckles the Echidna. He just has so much more going for him.
 

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In the beginning, Tails was just a mere sidekick in Sonic 2 and 3, while hie role has grown in more recent games since sega. However, Knuckles had big roles in Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles and has continued to have large roles since then. Other than Tails ability to fly, he has no major powers. He's not super fast, he's not super strong, but he does have an aresenal of weapons and can turn into Turbo Tails. Knuckles has the ability to glide, cling to walls, transform to Hyper Knuckles, has more strength than Tails, which leads me to say that I want Knuckles over Tails. I like Tails, but he might seem dull in a game like SSBB.
 

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I love your stage choice!

But I prefer seeing the classic Master Emerald ALTAR (the one in Hidden Palace) which has atound 8 platforms. The new one is kinda dull..

This is kinda wishful thinking.. but it would be awesome to have a sidescrolling stage featuring the Flying Battery flying through the different locations in Floating Island. :p Angel Island, Hydrocity, Sandopolis, Lava Reef, Sky Sanctuary.. etc.

Final Smash SHOULD be Super Knuckles (if Sakurai is so into retro Sonic). Where he's not really fast, but his attacks would have one-hit-ko power.
 

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knuckles would be pretty good for an AT but personally I would preffer tails since he is more connected to sonic and more well known.
 

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I personally can't decide wether on having Tails or Knuckles after Sonic.

I mean, I'm happy with Sonic.. but if I was to decide on the second Sonic Rep.. I'd go insane...

I like Knuckles and Tails at the same level! (Just as long as Tails doesn't involve TOO many machines...)
 

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Tails chances of being at least an AT are consideribly higher and you're fooling yourself if you think the Sonic franchise is going to get more then one playable rep. Besides, if you ask me, what appeal Knuckles had died when Sonic Adventure came out.
 

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Tails chances of being at least an AT are consideribly higher and you're fooling yourself if you think the Sonic franchise is going to get more then one playable rep. Besides, if you ask me, what appeal Knuckles had died when Sonic Adventure came out.
Well I didn't ask you, and Knux still happens to be liked.
 

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Well I didn't ask you, and Knux still happens to be liked.
Actually, you asked everyone when you posted this thread.

Personally, I don't think the Sonic series needs another playable representative, and even if there was one, Tails would probably be it.
 

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That was harsh, Meta.

FATMANONICE has some truth in what he says..

Personally, I don't think Sakurai is much of a Sonic fan.. Just look at his update. It seemed a little bit forced, IMO.

Sure, he made the SNAKE update REALLY epic. "Snake vs Mario", all the Snake jokes... the moveset... the songs.. etc.

Sonic was practically thrown in there early to cut the impact of the new release date... >:(
 

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Actually, you asked everyone when you posted this thread.

Personally, I don't think the Sonic series needs another playable representative, and even if there was one, Tails would probably be it.
I never asked him about anything that has to do with Sonic Adventure now did I? The only thing Tails would be is a sticker, if there was a second rep it would be Knuckles, because he can actually stand out as a PC.
 
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