Official "I need help with ___"

[Red Exodus]

Free for all. It's impossible to play and use skill in them for me. I can WD well with 1 person on the stage, with 3 people, I can barely shffl. I hate FFAs so much.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

FFA=Free For All - A 3 or 4 player game with no teams.

I'm guessing Red is a Samus mainer, and (no offense) isn't that good now. Maybe he was good at one point but something happened?... I don't know let's have Red Exodus explain.

 

[Creo]

Ahh yes Free For All's(I am tired so don't complain). I do have less skill because I have to watch out for everyone so mindgames don't work as well. I can partially agree with you. Also, it gets annyoing to SHL with Falco both ways. SHL, jump, turn in air, SHL and so on. Much more accurate with one on ones. But, I am not horrible at them and can play good still just not great.

 

[Red Exodus]

Well, Samus is one of my many mains. I main, in some order of best to worse:

1) Mario
2) Marth
3) Fox (my original main since 2002)
4) ICs
5) Samus
6) Capt Falcon
7) Ganondorf (don't suck with him at all, but I'd say from here down is where it gets weak)
8) Yoshi
9) Bowser

The biggest problem in FFA is people who just attack anybody, it just turns the whole thing into a a mess of rolling and smash attacks.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

Wow a Bowser main, I'm impressed. Bowser's fun to play as, but not so much to main.
My mains are, in order of best to worst:

1) Falco
2) Marth
3) Shiek
4) Ganondorf
5) Link
6) Jigglypuff
7) Fox
8) Mario/Doc
9) Yoshi

 

[Creo]

Here is my order:
Falco
Falco
Falco
Falco
and you get the rest I take it.

 

[-Wolfy-]

Yeah. Whenever we do free for alls in our crew, doesn't matter the skill of the player. It's either a c-stick, or a move like the knee rumble.

Mains:
Marth
GaW
Kirby
Falco/Fox
Bowser
Yoshi
Peach
Ness

 

[Red Exodus]

Cool a G&W main, I've never watched a video of a good G&W player but it must be tough handing a character you can't L-cancel with, plus his shield sucks.

 

[-Wolfy-]

It's like maining Bowser, matches can be won, you have to being really on your game to beat anyone good. I used to be the typical, every top tier player as my mains kind of player, but I've been experimenting with the lower tiers. I think bombsoldier has a vid or two as GaW. If iI can remember any other good vids of GaW I'll get back to you.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

I don't main G&W anymore but I used to. If you know what you're doing he's not that bad of a character. But this was before I discovered Falco and Shiek, then Marth and L-cancelling.
If your opponent is in the air and you fAir them (that cake/cynderblock/shoebox move) it can be devestating. And even the rest of his A attacks are strong and can combo well. And the lack of L-cancelled aerial moves is made up for with the fact that they are all more than decent attacks.

 

[-Wolfy-]

Great tilts, good ground game, only go to the air for KO moves really. You'll get juggled and abused.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

He's really not that bad, I don't see why people hate him so much.

The tiers are so biased, judgemental, and mind-controlling to the masses. It's like MTV for Smashers.

 

[Creo]

I don't care about the tiers...If you put dedication and practice with a character, you will get good no matter the tier.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

Well yes you'll get good, but you won't always be as good as some other high tier characters in the metagame.


I have one word for you:
Mewtwo

 

[Creo]

What about him? Is there anything special?

 

[~rh]

I would like to know this as well.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

Well, he's the worst character by far. That's it. He's bottom of the bottom tier, Taj is the only pro I've seen who can play him well, and will pretty much always be ***** by someone a tier higher than him.

EDIT: and he isn't even Taj's best. He's one of his mains, but he comes in under two others. Marth and Fox (I think).

 

[Creo]

I actually find Mewtwo to be pretty decent. My character statistics, I don't like Pichu at all. I think he sucks the most and should be the bottome of the tier...not Mewtwo.

 

[~rh]

I agree with the Pichu statement. At least Mewtwo's not another character water-downed.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

I wouldn't say any of the clones are watered down. At most I'd say they're like Coke and Pepsi. Some people like one and some people like the other more.

And yes, Mewtwo is original. I hope they bring him back but buff him exponentially. He deserves to be a good character. He has so much potential unused.

 

[-Wolfy-]

Mewtwo can win matches, most people just aren't good with him. I'd take a Pichu with my mewtwo anyday.

 

[Univern72]

I don't live anywhere near my friends and it's really difficult to play against them constantly for practice. Are bots worth practicing against, do I have to just nag my friends to come play, or is there another special way to practice?

 

[petre]

its useful to play lvl 1s in VS. mode to practice techs, such as shuffling and wavedashing. but this is just to improve your consistency in performing these and linking them together quickly and such. its better to practice with humans, because they will learn, and they can tell you what youre doing wrong.

 

[JMRboosties]

Event 31 Help

I am convinced that there is a glitch on playing Event 31 through a second time. There are too many people on this board that I've seen have the same exact trouble as I do. They beat the Event 31 with ease their first play-through, only to have it become impossible no matter how well they do in their second try. Is there any known data besides all of these complaints to confirm that it is in fact a glitch? And if so, how do I solve this problem?

 

[petre]

umm...i have no idea what youre talking about. i read your post, and i was compelled to go play that event again to see if id have any trouble. i beat it on my first try with 8 kills.

i dont think theres a glitch.

 

[Linkster47]

I use DK on event match 31. I can't remember very much about the first time I played it but I don't think it was harder than it is know. My strategy is to wait by the side of the stage and throw them off of it. I mostly use shield grabs and a few dash grabs here and there. I did it just know and got 10 kills.

I also don't think there is a glitch.

 

[-Wolfy-]

I don't recall which event 31 is, can someone refresh my memory? My wii is outside by the pool >_>

And JMR, Don't train on lvl 9's. You'll develope bad habits, plus they powershield everything, they make ridiculous grabs that noone could time, and also, they do stupid stuff over and over(I.E face a lvl 9 ganon and double jump above him, i almost guarantee he'll up-b)

 

[Linkster47]

It's the one where you have to verse Mario and Luigi with a character of your choice. It is a two minute time battle on Mushroom kingdom. Your high score is based on kill total. I think they're not on a team, but they gang up on you like in trophy tussle

Edit: Oh no... my stupid MS paint signiture popped up, I hate that thing...

 

[-Wolfy-]

Ahh I liked that one. Once upon a time I was much better with jiggs, and I just sleepered them. But since I've been hosting tournaments now, I've lost a few memory cards and have had to go threw it all again, and i'd say don't try and do it well, jsut try and do it. use marth and jsut smahs attack them to death with his "long *** sword". you've got much more reach than they do that way. youhave to finish events in a way that you'd be embarassed to play your friends with. All smash attacks.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

@WGWOLVERINE:
You're right, practicing against lvl9 opponents is retarted. But I was curious... what do you practice against? I've always fought lvl9s and I think it's only made me better, powershields and all.

 

[-Wolfy-]

I've been blessed with the fact that I've got 3 friends across the street who play, 1 not far away that is always down to paly, and a brother who is usually up for a few matches, so I tend to get a much play with people as I can. Because techniques are useless if you can't hit a person with them, and you need to use mind games to hit a person. Lvl 9 are like those chess players that play super computers. Until I see a super computer at a tournament, I'm not goingto train on them. Honestly, when I've got noone to play with and I'm really itching to go, I do some tournaments with the computers lvl's set to random.

EDIT: I'm not saying people shouldn't face 9's. I think there are some goods and some bads about them, but at the end of the day you have to choose your own way to train.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

@WGWOLVERINE:
You're right, practicing against lvl9 opponents is retarted. But I was curious... what do you practice against? I've always fought lvl9s and I think it's only made me better, powershields and all.

 

[-Wolfy-]

lol. deja vu. I can fight repost fire with repost fire :
I've been blessed with the fact that I've got 3 friends across the street who play, 1 not far away that is always down to paly, and a brother who is usually up for a few matches, so I tend to get a much play with people as I can. Because techniques are useless if you can't hit a person with them, and you need to use mind games to hit a person. Lvl 9 are like those chess players that play super computers. Until I see a super computer at a tournament, I'm not goingto train on them. Honestly, when I've got noone to play with and I'm really itching to go, I do some tournaments with the computers lvl's set to random.

EDIT: I'm not saying people shouldn't face 9's. I think there are some goods and some bads about them, but at the end of the day you have to choose your own way to train.

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[YoshiKongBarkley3000]

I need help in L canceling better i don't know when to exactly L cancel.

 

[capncone]

I need help in L canceling better i don't know when to exactly L cancel.

You just have to practice.

 

[petre]

you press L/R/Z within 20 frames (1/3 of a second) before hitting the ground.

 

[Mars—]

i know this is gonna sound weird, but i have a serious problem. When i play people in smash bros, i get really nervous and sometimes the controller slips out of my hand because of all the sweat. I tried playing with some cotton gloves, but then i can't feel the buttons so well. I ordered some talc powder from ebay and maybe that will help but it might get inisde my controller. I am stuck. Someone please help!

 

[-Wolfy-]

lol, my friend acutally had the same problem, and he got this weird wireless gameshark brand controller, and it has like contoured grips, might be something to look into.

 

[petre]

solution: play so many people that its as natural as sleeping. and unless you have a very serious problem where you are too nervous to fall asleep, then it should work, and you wont be nervous anymore.

also, play some friendly matches, or even mess around in some FFAs or something. dont start off serious.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

There's also a cheaper solution than going out and buying a rubber-gripped controller, which is a good idea and all, but just try holding the controller tighter, and everytime you have a second to rest, either after KOing an opponent or being KOed yourself, just wipe your hands on your pants or shirt. Everyone gets sweaty hands, even the pros. *CORRECTION* especially the pros.

Lol, thanks for that post though. It was just silly enough to brighten up my day. And good for you to not be ashamed of who you are: A dedicated Smasher.