+/- Of Brawl

[Brandenpunk1]

what are the 5 biggest +'s about the game, What are the 5 biggest -'s about the game? explain why they are your +'s and -'s.

 

[pirkid]

+Stage Creator
+Online WI-FI
+SSE
+Replays

+35 characters-

-Short 1-player modes
-Limited WI-FI
-Target Test not creative
-Glitches

The 35 character one is a bit of both. Yea, its a lot, but it could have beenb bigger.

 

[Wight]

oh god.. not another "your top ____ of brawl" threads.. this should be locked simply for spam sake..

 

[Foxy]

Thanks for this thread. It doesn't exactly replicate everything else. I like the idea.

Here we go:

+ Co-op modes (TT, HRC, SSE)
+ New characters (obviously)
+ Improvements made on old characters
+ Wi-Fi capabilities
+ Fantastic new stages

- 35 characters was a big disappointment
- Lack of variety in SSE
- Isaac's assist trophy uses Move... instead of Ragnarok or something more impressive
- L-canceling and Wavedashing should have been left in, even if it would have been Melee 2.0
- Geno did not make the game in ANY form

 

[captainfalconmute]

lol, i just remembered, i made the exact same thread a long while back

mine would be:

+ Stage Builder
+ Wi-fi
+ SSE
+ Sonic (hes just pure awesome)
+ The Soundtrack

- Target Test
- CLONES
- TOON LINK
- No Board The Platforms
- Lack of Stages (IMO)

 

[DMurr]

I'll just say that the thing that I dislike most about this game is Subspace Emissary. Sure, an extended Adventure Mode is cool.. but that's just the thing. This isn't an extended first player mode.. it's an entirely new game! I wanted a bigger, better multi player mode.. which is what the game's all about. I'm sure I'll love Subspace.. but I would've rather had a larger roster.

I love this roster though, it's really amusing. I wish that there was no clone Final Smashes though.. that's supposed to be unique to the character, IMO, and ...wow, three landmasters?!

 

[Smile Guy]

Well, I can't really officially judge until I've played the game ad nauseum myself, buuut...

+ Subspace Emissary
+ Number of Trophies, Stickers, ATs, etc
+ Stage Builder
+ Music
+ Downloadable Daily Content

- Lacklustre Roster (at least with the Secret Characters)
- Multi-Man, Target, Home-Run Game Modes are just more of the same (rather than new modes, etc)
- Popular/Most-Wanted Characters Getting Little to No Representation
- Poke Ball Pokemon have bad graphics (yeah, I'm running out of ideas)
- Clones Return WORSE THAN before.

In conclusion, the game is overwhelmingly good.

 

[iron blade]

+Pit
+Stage builder
+SSE
+Co-op
+WiFi

-'With Anyone' WiFi sucks
-People complaining about Brawl
-Glitches
-Olimar
-Toon Link

 

[Big-Cat]

+ New and exciting characters.
+ Good stages.
+ Good music.
+ More balanced characters.
+ Online Play

- Making Lucas and Ness semi-clones.
- SSE being very disappointing with a lousy story.
- Most requested characters are reduced to cameos or bosses.
- Disappointing roster.
- No Camera Mode

 

[ph00tbag]

+ Zero Suit Samus
+ Norfair
+ Frigate Orpheon
+ Metroid Prime Credits theme
+ Zero Suit Samus

- Tripping
- Wolf instead of Krystal
- The stupid voiceover in the MP credits theme
- Tripping
- Tripping

 

[Brandenpunk1]

Well because I started this thread I should give my take on it huh, well here go's:

+ Smash Balls- Ausome idea, really brings a good element to the game.
+ Stage Builder- Freakin ausome now I can make ANY type of stage I want.
+ Asist Trophys- Great Idea love the fact that you can get more nintendo characters in there without making the full fleshed characters
+ The 35 roster- ya i would have liked to have Krystal and Isaac in there but hey even without them its still a good roster.
+ WIFI - I dont have many friends that play smash, so it is good that i can play against other good players.

- You need friend codes to play a good match one that isnt 2min, 4 players, bunch of lame items.
- The fact that Fox, Falco, and Wolf all have the exact same Final smash.
- The ending of the SSE
- No krystal or Isaac
- mr. game and watch . . . dont like him

 

[Brandenpunk1]

oh god.. not another "your top ____ of brawl" threads.. this should be locked simply for spam sake..

Nope this thread is more deep than that buddy . . . the goal of the thread is to let people talk about to good and the bad of brawl. If you dont like the thread dont read it period.

 

[NessPaulaJeffPoo]

+Final Smashes
+SSE
+Everyone returned (sans Pichu. The others are at least in costume form)
+Stage Builder
+FANTASTIC music

-R.O.B.
-Coin Launcher was unnecessary
-The multiple delays in release
-The announcer's new voice
-Only one new girl rep

 

[Asuma]

+Stage Builder
+SSE
+CO OP modes
+AT's and FS's
+More characters

-Same FS's
-Not as many Bosses
-No board the platforms
-no unique target tests
-not as much AT's and Pokeballs

 

[ElectroBlade]

+ SSE
+ New characters
+ Stage Builder
+ Wifi
+ Amazing music

- No characters with amazing potential ((Krystal mainly))
- Snake
- No Geno
- ....
- ....
-

 

[Puddin Master]

+35 characters. The quality of the characters, not the quantity. The roster is great.
+SSE
+Online
+Co-op
+Great music

-Kind of cheesy announcer voice but it doesn't really matter.
-Not too many girl characters
-Only 5 target stages
-Online somewhat limited
-Ugh...Lucario
-

 

[Pheonix]

+ Stage Builder
+ Orchestrated Music
+ Subspace Emissary
+ Wi-fi
+ Snake and Sonic

- Only 35 Characters
- May be the last Smash Bros. with Sakurai
- Clones
- Limited Wi-fi
- Friend Codes

 

[Lynkx]

+ Two people can play Wi-Fi on one Wii
+ Expanded single player mode with Co-Op
+ Online capabilties
+ Completely diverse atmosphere, not "cold" like Melee
+ All the other, simpler stuff you can do, e.g., take a picture anytime, selection of different songs per stage

And another + ... Music

- Link's Final Smash... coulda been better
- 2 minute "with anyone", can't change the options
- The crowd. Same noise over and over!
- THREE landmasters
- The delay... curse you Nintendo of Europe!

 

[Shadow Calibur]

+ Orchestrated Music
+ Amazing roster, including Snake and Sonic
+ Full-fleged single-player Adventure Mode- the Subspace Emissary
+ Cooperative play
+ Stage Builder

- Online's a bit lacking...

Yeah, the pros seem to outweigh the cons here...

 

[Nowfist]

-Same FS's
-Not as many Bosses
-No board the platforms
-no unique target tests
-not as much AT's and Pokeballs

Your grammar here is pretty confusing.

My List:

+Unique and Original Story Mode
+Fantastic Music
+Unique Characters and Stages
+Good Variety in Modes ie. Stage Builder
+WiFi Gameplay

-SSE Plays similarly to Kirby SuperStar (I've seemed to notice this, not really a bad thing)
-A Few Clones have been implemented
-Not that many Past Stages and NO N64 stages
-Stage Builder seems pretty limited
-WiFi can be laggy at times

 

[MysticKenji]

+Stage Builder
+Online
+The Music

+Landmaster-
+35 characters-

-The number of ATs
-Tripping
-Lack of SSB64 stages

 

[Skalor]

I dont havent played it yet so ill probably post another in a week when my friend gets his japanese version.

+ 35 Characters (Technically 39, with like 2 clones?)
+ Wifi Enabled
+ Stage Builder
+ More character balance (My impression?)
+ SSE
+ Share Stages/Videos

- Wifi VERY RESTRICTED, in Random mode there should be options for Stock, Time Length, Items off, 1v1 etc I would have prefered this more than another character, even get rid of game modes like all star target test for this (seriously)
- Wifi random should have taunt text messages atleast!
- Link needed a upgrade not downgrade
- Few other characters needed upgrades like Yoshi, Bowser, Gannon?
- The few clones

 

[Yomanz]

+ New Characters
+ Wifi
+Co-op
+ Stages
+Music

- All these cancels that destroy the game.

 

[FenrirIII]

+Meta Knight
+SSE looks very fun
+Meta Knight
+Awesome music
+Did I mention Meta Knight?

-Krystal not playable
-Needs moar Meta Knight

 

[Ricard_the_dragoon]

+ R.O.B. is playable
+ Subspace Emissary
+ Music (everything about it)
+ Online Play
+ Stage Creator

- Ridley isn't playable
- Few bosses
- Not enough Landmasters
- Wifi Play is limited in Options
- Very Limited Stage Creator

 

[Maikeru17]

LOL@notenoughlandmasters<3

Mine:

+Brawl's aerial-battle capabilities
+Stage Creator
+"My" Music
+Seemingly more balanced roster
+Online VS mode

+35 Characters-

-Toon Link
-Toon Link
-Tripping
-No L-Canceling
-Poor "play with anyone" online mode

:D

 

[Thunderslf]

+35 characters, most, if not all of them look good
+41 stages, I like alot of 'em
+Snake and Sonic
+Less clones than Melee, and they look better
+Over 300 pieces of music
+The SSE being comparable to Kirby Super Star (Gameplay wise)
+The CGI cutscenes in the SSE
+WiFi
+Great graphics
+Stage creator
+Taking pictures when ever you want (Something I NEEDED in Melee)

-Ganondorf is still a clone
-Falco is still a clone
-The WiFi isn't as good as it could be
-Not enough Kirby stages
-Some dissapointing single player stuff, like the lack luster break the targets and lack of other single player modes

 

[Arteen]

+My Music
+New characters

+/- New stages, but not many that look appealing
+/- Stage creator is cool, but too limited
+/- Online is cool, but very limited

-They could have had a better selection of characters for the roster (No Isaac? Do we really need Lucas and Ness? Fox, Falco, and Wolf instead of Krystal? No new female characters besides Zamus, who hardly counts?)
-Isaac isn't playable, and all of its consequences (no stage, no other trophies, no stickers, only one song, no items, etc)
-Lame Break the Targets, Board the Platforms is still gone, no Trophy Tussles, and what happened to Race to the Finish?
-No N64 stages (Hyrule and Saffron specifically)
-Could have made characters more unique (3 Landmasters? 2 PK Starstorms? What's the point of Toon Link if he doesn't have any moves from his games, like the deku leaf or skull hammer?)

 

[Smash_Gigas]

1+) 2-Player Story Mode.
2+) Online.
3+) Suped-up Homerun Contest.
4+) Graphics.
5+) Stage Builder.

1-) Online's not that detailed.
2-) Roster doesn't meet expectations. (DON'T FLAME--It's just an opinion)
3-) N/A
4-) N/A
5-) N/A

 

[T.U.C.]

+ sse
+ stage builder
+ new characters
+co-op play
+wifi

- no online ranking
- no wavedash
- same FS
- some character are clone while they could have a good moveset (ww-link, ganon, luigi, nes and falco)
- no unique target tests

 

[Metallic_Igloo]

It's all postive

+ Stage Builder
+ Great Music
+ Chosing Music
+ Stages are good
+ Characters are ALL good choices, they just didn't make as many or the ones we wanted them to make.
+ Wifi
+ Subspace Emmissary
+ Bosses
+ Character Development (teaming up, bad guys, etc)
+ Co-op
+ Event Mode
+ Assist Trophies
+ Final Smashes
+ Trophies, Stickers
+ Creative character mechanics (Pikmin and Olimar, Samus and Zamus, etc.)
+ Large metagame potential
+ Downloadable Stages
+ Videos
+ Easier picture taking
+ Wifi uses is stages, pictures, etc.
+ More gameplay mechanics (Gliding, footstool jump)
+ Coin launcher
+ 3rd Party Characters and ATs
+ Cutscenes
+ Use of character, game, and nintendo history (Chronicle, classic characters)
+ Multiple controllers
+ Fully customizable controls
+ Graphics
+ Lots of Melee stages
+ Spectator
+ Better Home run and co-op
+ Somewhat better target (co-op)
+ Widescreen
+ Challenges Mode (very organized)
+ Lots of unlockables
+ Masterpieces
+ Nearly infinite playability
+ It's a Smash Game

really not big deal- some Final Smashes aren't creative
really not big deal- no leaderboards, ranking
really not big deal- No N64 stages
really not big deal- not many new items
really not big deal- no stock Wifi
really not big deal- only 5 letter names
really not big deal- not everyone comes back (yes I even would've rather had horrible clones like Pichu just so the roster is big than have some cut from the roster and for only some to come back)

 

[Aminar]

+Stage maker
+New CHaracters
+Pit
+Creative ideas
+It's Smash

-Infinites
-Final Smashes not being truly viable
-People whining before they have played it.
-Landmaster
-Cannot record matches then move to CPU.

 

[Aipom]

+ Assist Trophies
+ Game & Watch and ROB
+ awesome stages
+ Boss Battle Mode
+ Adventure Mode (awesome)

- 35 (I wanted 40)
- Waluigi not playable
- too few Retro characters
- could've bee more bosses
- wanted 2 Wario reps (Mona/Waluigi if he counts)

 

[Kr3w]

+ 35 roster (I have no problem with it)
+ Wi Fi
+ SSE
+ Great graphics
+ SONIC!!!

- Wi Fi With Anyone = Gay
- Long 12 digit friend codes..( Should have a "Add Friend" after playing someone on Wi Fi)
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[Super Drybones]

+ everything

-......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ganon still clone

 

[GiroNatsu]

+wifi
+all co-op stuff
+multiple types of control
+music
+roster choices

-lack of original moves for ganondorf
-no geno
-*see first negative
-*see third negative
-*see fourth negative
everything else is good

 

[tirkaro]

+stage builder
+SSE
+The music
+Online
+new techniques

-The roster sucks
-With anyone sucks
-The roster sucks
-Gameplay has been n00bified
-no N64 stages
-the roster also sucks

 

[Dark Aether]

+Stage Builder
+Sonic
+Final Smashes
+WIFI
+SONIC

-needs moar SONIC
-We have to wait 28 more days....

that's about it.

 

[RazeveX]

Inclusion of...

+ Metaknight
+ Metaknight
+ Metaknight
+ Metaknight
+ Chuck Norris Metaknight

Exclusion of...

- Megaman
- Master Chief
- Duke Nukem
- The ball from Pinball
- Chuck Norris Metaknight

 

[Norm]

+Stage Creator
+Online WI-FI
+SSE
+35 characters

-Short 1-player modes
-Limited WI-FI
-No Geno
-Glitches