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Nothing Special Mafia: Game Over! Who won?!

Cello_Marl

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@Kataefi: Right now, it's Xonar. I may not have addressed that "@Kataefi", but it's pretty obvious that's the only other person I've shown real interest in without coming to the conclusion that that person is town (i.e. Starshy).

I suppose he's a distant, distant third, but only by virtue of not having my explicit trust. I trust May, Starshy, and Macman, so that's enough.

Starshy for log, Macman for thinking I'm town for the reasons he chose (Milleresque play) and I trust a trusted Starshy's judgment, and May for her response to my hammer. There are other things too, but those were the turning points.
 

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Deadline has been set for March 15, 2010 5:00PM EST.

It's takes 4/7 to lynch!​

Day 2 Vote Count 5:


Cello_Marl: SummonerAU (:skull:)
Kataefi: §tarshy, Mayling, Cello_Marl (:skull: :skull: :skull:)
Macman: (0)
Mayling: (0)
§tarshy: (0)
SummonerAU: (0)
Xonar: (0)
Not Voting: Kataefi, Macman, Xonar (:skull: :skull: :skull:)
 

Cello_Marl

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EBWOP for #281: The second paragraph, replace the first "he's" you see with "Summoner is". I removed a line that said his name but didn't edit the rest.
 

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Xonar, I went silent because I stated my opinions last post. Cello had one thing right that I should mess up the day with continous scum hunting of Cello. I was waiting for people's reactions to things. Why did you unvote Cello? Please ELABORATE on your reason if it's something like 'because I got town vibes' etc
I unvoted Cello because, while I still don't like him, I don't want him dead... yet. I'm leaning more towards Kat now.

nah, somebody told me that Xonar gets a little annoyed at his name being pronouced Zonar or something. So it was just a little joke. If you didn't notice, I also did May.

...I didn't even know there was a multiquote feature...
...Andrew... :burst:

I was told that the X is pronounced as an X or something like that.

BACK TO THE GAME.
Ksoonahr. ****in' americans and aussies.

blah, blah, blah
I did notice Kat's buddying, but this post did it. I'm willing to lynch Kat today.

(inb4 'as soon as you're suspected of Kat's partner you are willing to lynch him, obvious buddying OLOLOLOL')

Btw Mac, I don't like the 'he's doing nothing' argument at all. If you break it down to bits NOBODY does anything. What I'm trying to do is get information by asking questions. This brings me to what I think is the base of the game.
The town has 2 powers, Voice and Vote. Often, vote is based on voice, and voice is based on information. Getting information allows you to use your powers the right way, instead of playing in an everlasting RVS.
 

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Because it was a ridiculous case mayling that could have Xonar replaced with _____ and it would still apply.

Also this:

I fail to see how Kataefi is suspicious for putting his vote on Kevom when he said that's what he was going to do, and said with no hidden agenda it was to see if Kevom would speak.
Thankyou very much. Now why the drastic turn? In your own words mayling.
Scum benefits from any town that they get lynched.
This, in light with you main suspicions of Xonar and Marc D1 tell me you've changed your strategy from D1 to D2 and the hop-on-Kat wagon whilst taking cover behind Cello and Starshy straight jack **** mayling and I don't like it.

Please address my points in that post btw :)
_

Alright:

Still not fond of you Starshy. Something just feels very wrong here but I'm thinking it could be the hydra and not you as scum. Basically you say stuff like this and this which I remember at the time thinking yeah this is a good direction to take - either do or don't and get it out of the way. And then town did do it and I agree I was the most vocal on this Day about it, but the drastic U-turn Starshy took made me uncomfortable - that and suddenly a really convenient aim log pops up and it looks too good to be true. But in all honesty Starshy is someone to look at later on in the game for me and not right now. I don't think Starshy is the play.

Xonar the shapeshifter and Summoner the people pleaser imo - I have good vibes from Summoner and I still do but I don't think you've stepped your foot in on anyone's business aggressively enough for my taste - maybe we just play differently. I think you pretty-up your posts quite nicely and it has this 'Summoner is so cool' aura about it. I don't think Summoner is the play today. XONAR... I was neutral on for a reason and a good one at that - really fails to make an impression in scumhunting and it's more a case of Xonar being the 'conveyor belt' of conversation in this game - someone says something, and you sort of make it drift along... short posts that really say nothing yet still manage to stay on topic. You've never really said something on your own accord imo and it's very reactive and I can't get much out of it. I'm going to bring up examples in the next post I do because I don't have enough time now as I'm writing this. I'm still neutral on you btw, even after the reread, but I have noticed that your posts are more filler than substantial, and they have been like this the entire game, sorry.

Grouped the above 2 together.

Gotta be quick btw - Cello goes back and forth - not liking how he clears Mayling because of her one response to his obscure hammer, and I guess I just haven't played enough games with him. L4Scum did taint me with a bad impression of Cello I'll be very honest. Seeing him so active and, better word, hyper, is fascinating to me.

MAYLING... scum. Your case is terrible horrible. You sailed nicely D1... first Moriarty's wagon, now of course you're disassociating yourself with it by nicely avoiding all my posts and bringing up a brand new case to argue with me about it. I still want a response to a certain post I made which I've made crystal clear previously, which you haven't addressed.

I like Mac. Reasons coming soon.
 

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Xonar explain to me how I was buddying you differently to everyone else in the game?
 

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@kat

Kataefi, other than you are scum buddies, care to share why you are so interested in prodding, poking, and lustful for Xonar's thoughts and feelings?

After all, in the last quote you say "Xonar is neutral to me right now. Summoner feels very townie." Why aren't you more interested in someone's thoughts that you feel are 1) scummy or 2) townie? Instead you prod and poke at the person you feel is neutral on your list.

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
Mainly that was bothering me.
 

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Xonar the shapeshifter and Summoner the people pleaser imo - I have good vibes from Summoner and I still do but I don't think you've stepped your foot in on anyone's business aggressively enough for my taste - maybe we just play differently. I think you pretty-up your posts quite nicely and it has this 'Summoner is so cool' aura about it. I don't think Summoner is the play today. XONAR... I was neutral on for a reason and a good one at that - really fails to make an impression in scumhunting and it's more a case of Xonar being the 'conveyor belt' of conversation in this game - someone says something, and you sort of make it drift along... short posts that really say nothing yet still manage to stay on topic. You've never really said something on your own accord imo and it's very reactive and I can't get much out of it. I'm going to bring up examples in the next post I do because I don't have enough time now as I'm writing this. I'm still neutral on you btw, even after the reread, but I have noticed that your posts are more filler than substantial, and they have been like this the entire game, sorry.
When it comes down to it, everything is reacting to things other people say here.
Also, link me some filler posts please. Beside the occasional joke and 286.
 

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Neutral = yes no maybe so i.e. slightly not contributing as much as they should in my eyes or playing it on the safe side etc.... i like it when I can look at someone's posts and think they could be town/scum or have a noticeable, strong presence.
I'm still neutral, so nothing changed. Why did you keep asking me questions if it wasn't helping?
 

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Thankyou very much. Now why the drastic turn? In your own words mayling.
It's called a reread, and Kevom and Marc flipping town, when they were mainly suspicious of you.

Kat, you don't really argue against my case at all. You only call it 1) a bad one. and 2) stupid cus you could replace Xonar's name with anyone else's.

It's also strange you keep calling Xonar neutral, neutral, even when you find scummy things about him.

Grouped the above 2 together.

MAYLING... scum. Your case is terrible horrible. You sailed nicely D1... first Moriarty's wagon, now of course you're disassociating yourself with it by nicely avoiding all my posts and bringing up a brand new case to argue with me about it. I still want a response to a certain post I made which I've made crystal clear previously, which you haven't addressed.

I like Mac. Reasons coming soon.
I don't disassociate myself with the wagon. I was the wagon. I was the one who started it. I didn't expect the hammer, no, but I do understand why as Cello, Cello's character, he would hammer.

Kill May and if he flips town go Kat?
I'm a girl.

Also, this was a really quick flip. Strange.
 

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I've expressed interest in lynching you for a while now. At least I never really liked you.
Lynch Kat and if he flips town we can go May, if people like going for Kat more. I'd be fine with both atm, but rather have May than Kat.
 

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@work:

xonar in response to your question explain this if you really think you're that special:
Neutral = yes no maybe so i.e. slightly not contributing as much as they should in my eyes or playing it on the safe side etc.... i like it when I can look at someone's posts and think they could be town/scum or have a noticeable, strong presence.

In all seriousness - I'm asking for Xonar's thoughts at a time when I considered him quiet. I've done this many times for Mac, I did this for the late Marc, I've requested Summoner's thoughts plenty of times, I've prodded and am still prodding Cello to answer my question, I've wanted Mayling to comment on my post #247 which she didn't fundamentally address, I've asked Starshy to comment on my rage paragraphs about his *****ing many times which he did and thanks. I'm pretty sure everyone here can attest to these things.
I think I'm pretty well justified in this case. I see no reason for you to feel convinced by Mayling's post all of a sudden and that you're special, especially because she's accusing you of being involved as much as she's accusing me here.

more to come
 

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in other words I want neutrals to stop fence sitting get stuck in so I can make a judgement

@Mayling: will comment in a bit
 

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@work:

xonar in response to your question explain this if you really think you're that special:

I think I'm pretty well justified in this case. I see no reason for you to feel convinced by Mayling's post all of a sudden and that you're special, especially because she's accusing you of being involved as much as she's accusing me here.

more to come
...wut?

I don't see her accusing me on buddying, at least not as much as you. Besides, me being accused of something by someone is hardly a reason for me not to agree with that person.

Neutral = yes no maybe so i.e. slightly not contributing as much as they should in my eyes or playing it on the safe side etc.... i like it when I can look at someone's posts and think they could be town/scum or have a noticeable, strong presence.

In all seriousness - I'm asking for Xonar's thoughts at a time when I considered him quiet. I've done this many times for Mac, I did this for the late Marc, I've requested Summoner's thoughts plenty of times, I've prodded and am still prodding Cello to answer my question, I've wanted Mayling to comment on my post #247 which she didn't fundamentally address, I've asked Starshy to comment on my rage paragraphs about his *****ing many times which he did and thanks. I'm pretty sure everyone here can attest to these things.
Problem with first paragraph is that scum is NEVER gonna post with you being able to say 'oh, he's town'. same counts for a townsperson. If you read a post and can read allignment just from that post, you're doing something wrong (being oh so gullible)
 

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Sorry i should have worded the last post I made much better. I didn't mean to say I'd be able to get a clearcut alignment on someone who isn't 'neutral' and judge them like that - just that these players have opinions and views that are easier to work with. That's also to address the bottom of your recent post Xonar as well.

Your opinions in the earlier stages of the game were just... well, nothing substantial! there wasn't much too them; I wanted to hear more about your thoughts and get you saying something that I would find easier to work with. But I've 'prodded' a lot of people for their thoughts, I really fail to see why you'd be 'special' enough to be isolated and picked out by Mayling in a bid to call me scummy. That's my beef atm really with this whole case.
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Also 5 days till deadline I don't want to be (or better put I can't afford to be) Day lynched please. At the core I'm getting ***** here for being vocal about moriarty's lynch, and now the new case of buddying up to specific players. Good setup scum. Town please reread all my posts!
 

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I'm iso'ing Starshy and I request (once again) for them to sign their post so that they can't blame inconsistensies on being another hydra head.
 

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cello kats actually giving me doubts. if youd rather go xonar or someone else then you should say so. i will say that im having serious trouble thinking of a scum team that doesnt include at least one person from kat/may/xonar

kat i dont get what youre saying about me in your last post. are you trying to say that you suspect that we shopped that aim log? your thoughts on me are reeking of too townie i think
 

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Your opinions in the earlier stages of the game were just... well, nothing substantial! there wasn't much too them; I wanted to hear more about your thoughts and get you saying something that I would find easier to work with. But I've 'prodded' a lot of people for their thoughts, I really fail to see why you'd be 'special' enough to be isolated and picked out by Mayling in a bid to call me scummy. That's my beef atm really with this whole case.
When is something substantial and when is something not? I think the responses to my posts were actually quite substantial, and were thus caused by me, I guess. Wouldn't that make my posts good?

http://www.smashboards.com/search.php?searchid=3270649 - Macman's Iso.
While he does post his stance every once in a while, that's pretty much everything. Is that substance?

http://www.smashboards.com/search.php?searchid=3270653 - Moriarty's Iso.
No substance at all, lol.

http://www.smashboards.com/search.php?searchid=3270655&pp=25 - Mayling's Iso.
No substance till a certain point, where her first post of substance actually is a case on Marc, the mislynch...
and her stances are silly
She starts off d2 by buddying with cello and defending him. then she hasn't really expressed that much

http://www.smashboards.com/search.php?searchid=3270685&pp=25&page=2 - Cello's iso
can't be arsed reading through this. just linked it here cause i had it open

Mr Starshy
http://www.smashboards.com/search.php?searchid=3270699&pp=25&page=2

gonna do that one later, gotta learn for a test.
starshy, like i asked, sign posts again plz.
 

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Yeah I'm disappointed at the way things are looking right now for me.

starshy... I never said anything about it being shopped. and yeah I do tend to doubt things - the log is 'too good to be true' in the sense that I'm not all of a sudden gonna paint the town red with how townie you are because it lol... what were you expecting? Also i'm not that doubtful... it's good to see you took a screenshot but then the question is why did you take it lol? What necessity does it bring to the game aside from showing us your rage? Also can't work out if the hydra mechanic is the thing that's making me think more suspiciously of you or not after my reread (I said this before).

sorry @work will post soon xonar i'll look at your post also Cello i haven't forgotten the one you made a while back
 

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i posted the screenshot to nip the aim convo thing in the bud. itd be a distraction otherwise

its also why were not signing posts

xonar like half of those links dont work i dont think they can
 

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@Starshy: I'm guessing you think Kat is being too blatant with his actions to actually be scum. I'm not having any doubts on Kat's scumminess right now. That said, I'm willing to lynch Xonar too. Not quite as rabidly, but enough to be happy with it. That reminds me, though; what made you think I was town? Also, the problem you have with May, is it her arguments or her intentions that have you on edge?

The end of Xonar's #286 was just a fundamentals lesson, and I see no use for it. The comments @Macman also irk me, as it comes off as an attempt to indirectly lower Macman.

Besides the points on Kat that May brought up (which I find great), Kat's vote on me came off when he realized that public opinion was not with him. It came across to me like scum striking gold; here they had a perfect scapegoat (in me), and they themselves prepared the pitchforks and torches. But, when the blame Cello for town's failure (from Xonar), and lynch him "oh god he said something retardedly scumtasical" (from Kat, in reference to my hammer reason) didn't work, they both backed off. If it weren't for the fact that May knows I'd know she'd know that I knew, and Marshy/Steel? apparently expects my shenanigans as a matter of course, and Macman got a town read from me (oh yeah, more on that at the end), the I'd probably be dead right now.

Kataefi said:
Cello I am impressed. Either I'm totally misreading you or you really are the pied piper!
Kataefi said:
This, in light with you main suspicions of Xonar and Marc D1 tell me you've changed your strategy from D1 to D2 and the hop-on-Kat wagon whilst taking cover behind Cello and Starshy straight jack **** mayling and I don't like it.
Nothing Kat said between these two quotes suggests that his opinion on me had changed. The first quote suggests that he thinks I'm scum. So...why would he suggest May was taking cover us, and by extension imply that we're townies? Moreover, how was May taking cover behind me at all? She was the second to vote for Kataefi toDay.

Kataefi said:
starshy... I never said anything about it being shopped. and yeah I do tend to doubt things - the log is 'too good to be true' in the sense that I'm not all of a sudden gonna paint the town red with how townie you are because it lol...
Yes, you did.

Kataefi said:
also Cello I think the aim log is fake or staged.
There is no earthly reason they would have created that log BEFORE I asked for it. And if they did it after, then it had to be shopped. Or faked by changing clock times. The important thing here is that you are attempting not just shifting your position, but pretending that you never took it in the first place.

@Xonar and Macman: Will you both argue about why you think I'm not acting like I was in Miller (for Xonar) and why I'm acting like I was in Miller (for Macman) and why you think it supports your thought that I'm scum (for Xonar) or town (for Macman)?

I feel like I'm missing something, but I don't know what.
 

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I've expressed interest in lynching you for a while now. At least I never really liked you.
Lynch Kat and if he flips town we can go May, if people like going for Kat more. I'd be fine with both atm, but rather have May than Kat.
Saying stuff like this makes me wanna go Xonar toDay, cus we could both very well be town and Xonar is setting up lynches.

I'll comment on the rest of the stuff later.
 

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Xonar the shapeshifter and Summoner the people pleaser imo - I have good vibes from Summoner and I still do but I don't think you've stepped your foot in on anyone's business aggressively enough for my taste - maybe we just play differently. I think you pretty-up your posts quite nicely and it has this 'Summoner is so cool' aura about it. I don't think Summoner is the play today. XONAR... I was neutral on for a reason and a good one at that - really fails to make an impression in scumhunting and it's more a case of Xonar being the 'conveyor belt' of conversation in this game - someone says something, and you sort of make it drift along... short posts that really say nothing yet still manage to stay on topic. You've never really said something on your own accord imo and it's very reactive and I can't get much out of it. I'm going to bring up examples in the next post I do because I don't have enough time now as I'm writing this. I'm still neutral on you btw, even after the reread, but I have noticed that your posts are more filler than substantial, and they have been like this the entire game, sorry.
This is basically what i've been tryna say about xonar.

And xonar is wrong [concerning how cello is behaving like millers hollow].

And mayling im suspect of you for most of the same reasons as xonar. I don't think you post as much filler as he does. But I don't know if thats makes you better or worse.
 

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also xonar its funny that you're referencing how few posts I have but yet I still seem to be saying alot more than you have been and you have one of the highest post counts, I think this says something, don't you?

also starshy, i'm very down to wagon xonar/mayling over kat.
 

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i posted the screenshot to nip the aim convo thing in the bud. itd be a distraction otherwise

its also why were not signing posts

xonar like half of those links dont work i dont think they can
Ohwell, you can view them by going to Dgames, clicking on the number of replies and then clicking on a number beside a persons name.


I also don't like how people are linking me with Kat's unvote. I was thinking that Cello wasn't the play, and Kat unvoted a few posts later. The reason I could see for this is that A) Kat is trying to buddy up to me to pull someone with him if he dies, B) Kat sees me unvote and sees how a Cello lynch isn't going to happen, thus unvotes or C) he doesn't suspect Cello anymore

cello said:
@Xonar and Macman: Will you both argue about why you think I'm not acting like I was in Miller (for Xonar) and why I'm acting like I was in Miller (for Macman) and why you think it supports your thought that I'm scum (for Xonar) or town (for Macman)?
I can't argue about it, it's just that I don't even remotely get the same vibes as I got from you in Miller's. That said, it doesn't mean that you are non-town per se, but in Miller you are pretty much a confirmed townie.

may said:
Saying stuff like this makes me wanna go Xonar toDay, cus we could both very well be town and Xonar is setting up lynches.
That way, everyone talking about their lynch pool could very well be setting up lynches too.

XONAR... I was neutral on for a reason and a good one at that - really fails to make an impression in scumhunting and it's more a case of Xonar being the 'conveyor belt' of conversation in this game - someone says something, and you sort of make it drift along... short posts that really say nothing yet still manage to stay on topic. You've never really said something on your own accord imo and it's very reactive and I can't get much out of it.
Fine, that's true. While I hate language johns, I do have to apply one here. I find it hard to be active yet keep a case going and pressure and stuff with the english going on. That said, I find it hard to keep a case going with the way people are defending this game.

also xonar its funny that you're referencing how few posts I have but yet I still seem to be saying alot more than you have been and you have one of the highest post counts, I think this says something, don't you?
You've been saying a lot more? You've been coming in every once in a while saying 'x should die, x is cleared'. Point made.

That said, I actually would feel most comfortable with lynching Mayling. Unvote, Vote: Mayling, with possibly going back to Mac if he starts going back to his lurking shizzle.
The problem I see with a Xonar lynch right now is that it won't give enough information. You can argue that I had enough interaction with Kat, but what if I flip Town?
 

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http://www.smashboards.com/search.php?searchid=3270655&pp=25 - Mayling's Iso.
No substance till a certain point, where her first post of substance actually is a case on Marc, the mislynch...
and her stances are silly
She starts off d2 by buddying with cello and defending him. then she hasn't really expressed that much.
You call my stance on you silly, but if someone is acting characteristically different than I've ever seen them, why would I not call attention to that?

It also should be pointed out you linked my "silly one-liner" when I had discussed it earlier (http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9736712&postcount=194)

That said, I actually would feel most comfortable with lynching Mayling. Unvote, Vote: Mayling, with possibly going back to Mac if he starts going back to his lurking shizzle.
The problem I see with a Xonar lynch right now is that it won't give enough information. You can argue that I had enough interaction with Kat, but what if I flip Town?
Other than the fact people weren't going for the lynch, what happened to your 'case' on cello? now you wanna go for me or Macman?

Besides the points on Kat that May brought up (which I find great), Kat's vote on me came off when he realized that public opinion was not with him. It came across to me like scum striking gold; here they had a perfect scapegoat (in me), and they themselves prepared the pitchforks and torches. But, when the blame Cello for town's failure (from Xonar), and lynch him "oh god he said something retardedly scumtasical" (from Kat, in reference to my hammer reason) didn't work, they both backed off. If it weren't for the fact that May knows I'd know she'd know that I knew, and Marshy/Steel? apparently expects my shenanigans as a matter of course, and Macman got a town read from me (oh yeah, more on that at the end), the I'd probably be dead right now.
I agree with pretty much all of this. especially if you look at Xonar pushing me/Macman cus the lynch on cello failed.

kat/xonar toDay pls
 

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My case on cello? My reason to vote him was because he hammered so early. I didn't forget it, but I think that right now the other people are more important. Pushing you and Mac cause the lynch on cello failed? Eh... what? To refresh your memory, I unvoted first because I moved it down my... errr... lynch list I guess? The fact that Kat unvoted afterwards made the lynch hopeless. Someone could've very well voted Cello in my place making the lynch more plausible.

Besides, after Mac's posting and me hoping he goes active again, I won't jump at Macman again. So it's pretty much just you.
 

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Deadline has been set for March 15, 2010 5:00PM EST.

It's takes 4/7 to lynch!​

Day 2 Vote Count 6:


Cello_Marl: SummonerAU (:skull:)
Kataefi: §tarshy, Mayling, Cello_Marl (:skull: :skull: :skull:)
Macman: (0)
Mayling: Xonar (:skull:)
§tarshy: (0)
SummonerAU: (0)
Xonar: (0)
Not Voting: Kataefi, Macman (:skull: :skull:)
 

Kataefi

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Cello can i just ask - what would your strategy be D3, if I'm lynched, and I flip town? Who would you immediately look to as scum and why? Also applies to Mayling.

Also now for your post #308:

What I find super funny

Besides the points on Kat that May brought up (which I find great)
If it weren't for the fact that May knows I'd know she'd know that I knew
I agree with Cello

which makes me all sort of nervous.
@Mayling: I just want to assume you are town, and am willing to indulge that at the slightest hint of towniness. I need to stop that.
Of which there are plenty more and lots of banter =) Hopefully by now you get the point of where I'm going with this.

Am I missing something? Lol... Like, I actually find it quite hypocritical that you find May's points GREAT in this respect and I'm the one accused of buddying up with Xonar. I understand you both are good friends but the principle still applies (May got it very wrong in l4scum) - What i'm proving here is that, May's points are fair points... but they're not great points, in the sense that they shouldn't have any intentions in exposing my 'accused scum' alignment this game when there is evidence of other people, and to a good extent herself, doing exactly the same thing.

With that said...

wut?

I've got my vote down, explained why it's there. What else do you want from me? I've made my stance on Marc, Xonar, and Kevom known, and placed my vote where I think it belongs.
Fundamentally this post reflected myself in D1... but this train of thinking by Mayling was totally ignored by you. Totally! Which supplements the above points I made, especially because you've hardly interacted with her on a scumhunting basis the whole game minus the occasional 'oh mayling what do you think of this?' and despite 90% of people finding her somewhat remotely suspicious for lurking and not elaborating, amongst many other things.
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And it's mighty convenient for you now that your case on me has developed into this 'I'm setting you up as scum', but in case you haven't noticed, I've been pretty consistent on you as early as D1, and I'm sure by this post it's clear I am still suspicious of you. So 'shifting this and that' cannot apply in the way you're intending.

My unvote on you is because Mayling is overtaking in terms of suspicion. NOTE: this doesn't mean I don't find you suspicious anymore :)

There is no earthly reason they would have created that log BEFORE I asked for it. And if they did it after, then it had to be shopped. Or faked by changing clock times. The important thing here is that you are attempting not just shifting your position, but pretending that you never took it in the first place.
This is fishing for trouble Cello - I don't care about the log because it shouldn't be treated as an alignment swinger. Also do explain the last sentence please I'm very intrigued.
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In a nutshell i'm seeing:

- Inconsistent treatment of players; 2 players say the same thing, one gets called out for it.
- Conjecture and possibilities. Cases that are very vague yet treated as decisive - 'I'm shifting my position in the game because there's the possibility I tried setting someone up', 'I prodded someone's thoughts because there's the possibility I'm buddying with them'.
- Pickpocketing points - the log is exhausted now.

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Also, as painful as this is to admit because i don't want to give you and Mayling more ammunition in my supposed 'buddying', but I really do agree with Xonar's first point about linking him with my unvote. It's like you're both in sync with trying to prove me connected to Xonar as much as possible and I don't like it, especially not this close to deadline. I'm also leaning slightly more as town with Xonar.

Summoner hasn't said anything recently he should really speak up now. I'm (gasp) interested in his thoughts. Also I'm going to do something if I'm still at L-1 and it gets much closer to the deadline.
 

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Also what is this major parroting thing here:
Xonar.

10Xonars.

Maybe you.
Note: Obviously can't like Mayling lynch

@Kataefi: Right now, it's Xonar. I may not have addressed that "@Kataefi", but it's pretty obvious that's the only other person I've shown real interest in without coming to the conclusion that that person is town (i.e. Starshy).
cello kats actually giving me doubts. if youd rather go xonar or someone else then you should say so. i will say that im having serious trouble thinking of a scum team that doesnt include at least one person from kat/may/xonar

kat i dont get what youre saying about me in your last post. are you trying to say that you suspect that we shopped that aim log? your
thoughts on me are reeking of too townie i think
Note: It wasn't this post, but it was one that actually outed suspicion.

also starshy, i'm very down to wagon xonar/mayling over kat.
That's pretty much everyone except for Kat/Summ. While I'm on the subject... Kat, you have no vote active atm, who do you want to lynch right now?
 

Mayling

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Kat, you say there is no difference between Cello/Me and you/Xonar.

There is a big difference.

I find Cello town.
From what I understand, he thinks I'm town.

Your poking and prodding and overenthusiastic obsession with Xonar? Your stance on him is _neutrality._
 

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Xonar said:
The problem I see with a Xonar lynch right now is that it won't give enough information. You can argue that I had enough interaction with Kat, but what if I flip Town?
This is silly. In Batmanfia, I'd pretty much done nothing D1, and hammered the same way I did here. If not for Kevin's buddying of me, there would have been virtually no ties between me and the other scum. Further, if I had been town, we'd have been significantly worse off with absolutely no information, and I'd be called Kirbyoshi 2.0. Or the beta version. Whatever. That was still no reason to not lynch me. Or you here.

@Kat: If you're town, I'd want to lynch Xonar.

@Xonar: If you're town, I'd want to lynch Kat.

Where'd Summoner go?

I don't remember if there was anything else I wanted to say, but I have to go to work now.
 
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