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YOSHIDO

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I ve had this Idea for about 5 1/2 years about Brawl. Sure the core of the game for us will be the 1v1s. And team battles for some. Some will take only as far as free for all. But to me. I think there should be several modes of play.

I think that there should be like a Brawl universe of some sort. This could be a side game. A differnt mode of play. IT would act like the son of Advernture mode, and Maple story. U start out as fresh lv noob. But the more coins u get. And the more stars u get. Your able to buy better stuff. Customize ur own stuff. And start to lv your charcter to crazy extents. And u would probably be tweak many aspects of your charcter. U'd beable to unlock more powerfull versions of your attack. For exampl yoshis egg slpatter raidus is only abou the size Jiggly Puff. Some one high lv in this game would have one the size of bowser.

* Hmm MAybe you dont have to grow that much. But you should be able to tell the differnce between a lv 100 and say 10. It will still play like smash. Just with stats. Say like a lv 9 handicap vs a lv 3 handicap. When you fight it would act somethin like that. Characters might be able to get faster. Less traction. Hmm im still thinking about the whole Broken factor though. Cuss a fox with fast, powerful fox, with no traction would become like god tier. So there has to be a limit somewhere. Something like a lv cap.

Bosses/monsters
I like the whole monster aspect of adventure mode. In rpg mode. their could be bigger quicker, stronger monsters. With large amounts of hp. This is where u and your friends could team up in battles to take them down. And like all rpgs. The more monsters. The more experince.

*Say like the mushroom kingdome on adventure mode. You and some friends could go threw killing goombas and stuff. When you get to the yoshi platform. It would be all 4 of yall takin on the heard of yoshis.

Clans/dojo's.
I defintly think there should be crews and stuff. I like how in adventrue mode theres differnt areas. Differnt worlds. THis could be the same way. And you could pick a world for ur clan's headquarters to be in. U could buy the parts. And build the place. Kinda like a house or what not. Yall can even make up ur own symbol.

*In your own place You would be able to customize your own lv. And if you have enough coins you could start to add Traps, wire frames. Stage transformations. Colors. THe item drop rate for this lv. You could trade friend codes so others can play your lv.

Friend list/Sensor
ofcoarse there is going to be a friends list. But in Brawl. Wouldnt be great if you could log on. And just by looking at your friends symbol u could tell what there doin in a match. And darker the color of the symbol. the worse their doin. Then if their match allows it. You can go deeper in and spectate the match. It would depend on their matchs settings on whether you could talk or record, cheer.

Personal CPU's
you should be able to tweak and power up your own cpu's. I'd love it if the cpu could mirror your fighting style like it does in Soulcalibur 2 for the arcade. I think they should do that hear too. This would make it alot easier. to better yourself. And it would just staight funn. and proably in rpg mode. They could fight for you. This would make Training mode alot more useful.

Item Engineer
This would be a selection. Sort of like a mini game where you can make and customize your own wepons. It would work somethin like x+y+z+T. Say for instance the warp star drops you down. And the bunny hood makes your go faster. So If you add them to gether. . Pluss whatever type if effects. Say B(body) energy when added to any item effects your body.V(vehicle) this energy would make the item affect the itme you pick up. In this case the star would be sped up. More unpredictable. IF You had chosen B type. Then your character would be effected. They would be as fast as someone with bunny ears. But you would develope a rushin power.

Leave your thoughs and comments to make it better. And Please no comments about how stupid or how much time this idea takes. ITs not needed. I really dont care what you think. And it slows down discussion process.
 

YOSHIDO

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im not saying it will only be a mmo. Or when you have 1v1. You stats will be affected. It will be completely away from the game. It will be a branch off of it. A mode of play. LIke Adventure mode. Story mode and so on.
 

AS Juggernaut

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I'm sorry to say this, but I just think it would ruin the game. Brawl isn't the type of game where u have like buffs and can summon creatures. It was a nice suggestion, but I just don't see it workin out.
 

LaniusShrike

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Heh. While I think it'd be funny to see super upgraded versions of the characters (Gdorf's neutral B with small delay?), I can't see this being at all an actual option.
I think a good MMPORG has to have all range overhead gameplay- SSB's sidescrolling would be odd. Also, it would be weird changing the costumes and such of these classic Nintendo characters and... in general, really kind of a weird idea.

... though, it would be kind of interesting seeing a game where you can travel to tons of different Nintendo worlds. I guess it'd be like Kingdom hearts, really.
 

Keige

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I think it would work as a story mode. Guys, he's not talking about a brand new game, it's just like adventure mode but longer and more in depth. Sakurai did he was going to expand the single player this time, so all complaints about spending more time on multiplayer are stupid. This game is being released when it's ready.
I like the idea. It would be fun if it had offline co-op. You and your friends could enter a dungeon and go through ransacking the place together.
 

Sensai

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I like the idea of leveling up (kinda). I cannot freakin' even begin to imagine what Ganon's jab would end up like.

As for the idea, though, I'm against it. Not because I think it's a bad idea (it's alright), but because it just won't ever happen. Sakurai just won't make it into an MMO, nor give it any type of MMO qualities.
 

YOSHIDO

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what?... Not even a costume change. I would love change yoshi's costume. He'd be a reall dark red. Light orange pupils. I and i would customize his timbs myself. They would be like a bandana. Except black and white. SUre it would take a lil time. But I dont see what else they have to do. Except make a good game.
 

Keige

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Just make this mode offline with co-op and I think it's good enough to be it's own game. I played PSO co-op at my friend's house and it was kinda fun. But this would be better because it's Smash.
 

KirbyisKewl

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If its small enough it might fit into this game as single player, but maybe it could be a seperate game. Maybe a series like Brawl, This MMORPG, and some other type games (minigame centered games maybe) think SuperKartBrothers or like SuperGunbrothers or somethink along those lines. Like part of the same series with the same world, same people ect but based around the same events but with a different spin on it. Like Super Gun brothers could be around stopping Ridley and Metanight from destroying Peaches Castle while SuperKartbrothers could be about Bowser and King DeDe torturing Hyrule and you have to climb up the racing ranks to be number one and overthrow both of their minions, making them powerless. You could be any one of the Brawl characters but you would have to unlock them. Instead of beating them at a battle, you would race them, or have a shooting duel or compete in competitive minigames
 

YOSHIDO

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what the heck. U dont have to play it. Its not the whole game. Its a lil side mode. its just adventure mode but with depth. Most of yall act like it would be the whole game. And that it just wouldn't be nintendo or whatever at all. How can put this idea down. But yet your okay with ish like, giant mellee, invisble mode. Coin match. all that stuff is just for fun. event mode Just for fun. This would be. Just for fun. F Uuuuuu eternal
 

Tsukuyomi

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A Platform Jumping Fight Game is good enough... We don't need another crappy game like MapleStory...

Though custom costumes is a great idea... Could be bought with in-game money or real money (buying Virtual Console points???)
 

Sensai

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The whole 'Smash store' idea is being talked about in another topic. A few of you might wanna check it out.

Just figured I'd throw my 2 cents in.
 

Pit 42

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what the heck. U dont have to play it. Its not the whole game. Its a lil side mode. its just adventure mode but with depth. Most of yall act like it would be the whole game. And that it just wouldn't be nintendo or whatever at all. How can put this idea down. But yet your okay with ish like, giant mellee, invisble mode. Coin match. all that stuff is just for fun. event mode Just for fun. This would be. Just for fun. F Uuuuuu eternal
An MMORPG "side mode"? That doesn't really make sense. And besides, Even an MMORPG side mode would ruin the gameplay. Save the MMORPGs for World of Warcraft.
 

D.A.N.

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That just seems like a watered down MMO idea, with the Smash name on it. Not entirely sure it would work. Leveling and customization are a couple things that don't have any reason for being associated with Smash. Though the idea of maybe grouping with 3 other players and fighting some big bosses or something sounds fun, the rest doesn't. Not too hot of an idea.
 

Zeee

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MAPLE STORY PLAYER? nuff said.

anyway if your thinking of a mode that takes Stamina mode to another level then thats good
 

YOSHIDO

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i can kinda see about the time. But othere than that. I dont think it was a bad idead. I hope the put other mini games in the next smash. Sure we all love 1v1's and team battles. But it gets a lil old after the first decade of it. The reason why were here is because were competitve. The competive side of smash wont go down just because the mini games or somethin. U Dont u think there should be customizble modes or somethin. I had this idea to keep it new. Not sayin that we all wont be havin fun fighting each other. This doesnt have to be 100% when the game is released. THis is somethin do could do a lil update on every month or so. Again just somethin to keep it fun and interestin.
 

Keige

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4 people in a dungeon fighting enemies until a HUGE final boss sounds fun. Maybe they would change some of your moves to make it more cooperative. Like maybe Ness's down B would heal everyone when he absorbs a projectile. Maybe you could shoot stuff at it to heal him. You guys are taking this WAY too far. This is a good idea if it stays to just 10-15 dungeons and that many bosses. It doesn't really seem like it would take up too much time.
 

KirbyisKewl

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Keige, you are a genius. Like a mode where you just face Bosses, but you pick the boss and you can unlock more and even make 1-4 bosses fight together against you. Not a MMORPG, but as close as your gonna get in this same game. Maybe beating bosses unlock costumes. Like beating the first 5 gets you a bad outfit, but like beating 10, 15, 20 or something like that will let you change your moveset or something. That would be awesome. Or like teams 2v2 against the boss, but whoever does the most damage in whole battle wins. Dont change it into a MMORPG like changing moves, keep movesets and style of play. Like Master Hand/Crazy hand fights.
 

Wrench

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dude, bad idea. Adding on something that could altar the games appearance that much would turn people off. Putting in parts where its like an MMORPG would completely turn people off, especially if they added stats to your characters. That would enrage newer players who are online. I mean , didnt you guy see the thread of that guy freaking out over wavedashing? if someone had better stats that'd bring in even more complaints
 

Icetrash

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I'm usually all for MMORPG games but Brawl as one? HELLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO! The creator has got way more stuff to do than create a different mode of play.
 
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what the heck. U dont have to play it. Its not the whole game. Its a lil side mode.
Listen child,you obviouslt nevr looked into graphics design and video game development,so let me inform you of this.To make this "side game" you would requier a multitude of servers and a solid internet connection service.Currently Nintendo has Wi-Fi,standard wireless networking via ethernet.

the Nintendo Wi-Fi has an input in which only a certain mass of people may be allowed on a game at once,and they all connect into something similar to a large server.

Let's say that i have a 20 wat bulb,but the input of electricity from the socket was 60 wats

Though that time you turn it on,it would short cicuit itself due to the fact that it can only contain 40 volts of electricity(Not saying that this will happen due to packed servers),so the only logical reason would to be to get a bulb that can contain that set amount of electricity,and even still,it must fit in that specific socket.In this case Nintendo can't get the right bulb,because the one they need doesn't fit.(Bad example...i know v_v)

Basically what i am saying is that since Nintendo Wi-Fi doesn't run on servers,it wouldn't be able to contain the flood of characters,areas,individual stats.All of this data must be hosted on servers or else the data stream would me mixed up,and random occurences would happen such as DC's.

Game data doesn't come out of no where man.Nintendo Wi-Fi wasn't ment for in depth play due to the fact that you cannot host servers,and all accumulated players are random for the exception of recognized IP adresses(I.E. Friend code).

And don't even get me started on lag testing.....

its just adventure mode but with depth.
Yeah,it's just a few years,who cares.....

Most of yall act like it would be the whole game. And that it just wouldn't be nintendo or whatever at all. How can put this idea down. But yet your okay with ish like, giant mellee, invisble mode. Coin match.
If i recall,smash bros. was a game ment to have fun with,not level up.And those features you mention are FUN,and they only requiere small amounts of change in data.Giant melee,and Tiny melee,all you need to do is use the large rendered character models(which have had basically had their frames magnified about to 5x it's size).The same can be said for the small models.

All the modes requier little programing changes,and are very fun.And personally,coin match is my personal favorite.

all that stuff is just for fun. event mode Just for fun. This would be. Just for fun. F Uuuuuu eternal
Listen to my words my intellectual opposite,you have to understand what the game designers are going through.you can't wish for something and it will happen.

And i shall reiterate,your head doesn't belong up your anus....

When you get a face full of excriments,odly enough,when you speak,the smell is similar....
 

YOSHIDO

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THeir game designers. What else do they have to do. But make games. They take what 6 years to make the game. It better be more than just an upgrade. THey better do the upgrade and then some. I dont want just super smash bros. Melee with a couple of extras. Like Kei said. It will be done when its done. How can you say just keep it simple. What so it can come out tommrow. Realisticly its probably gonna come out at the end of the year. We hope for May. But if it doesnt. Theres not a thing anyone can do about it. So me and a couple of other smashers. Are gonna hope for what ever we want. Infact right now the only thing that gives me a lil sour taste is not having all the characters return. Trick.
 
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THeir game designers. What else do they have to do. But make games. They take what 6 years to make the game.
You relize that those people have lives right?And you relize that those 6 years of development could have amounted to an entire season of future game development.You want them to waste 6 years of development on a feature for you and some other idiot?They might as well throw there Yen away.

So you want Nintendo to lose money to satisfy your lust for a whored out MMORPG?

Go play WoW,and quit bing an idiot.

It better be more than just an upgrade. THey better do the upgrade and then some. I dont want just super smash bros. Melee with a couple of extras.
Brawl is going to be a completely diffirent game,and you assuming that it wont only justifies that your ignorence is on a higher level than I assumed.And we all know what assume means...Making an A S S-out of-U-and-ME.

So you want smash to no longer become a Fighting game,but a gay mock MMO?

Like Kei said. It will be done when its done. How can you say just keep it simple. What so it can come out tommrow. Realisticly its probably gonna come out at the end of the year.
Realisticaly.. IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!!

We hope for May. But if it doesnt. Theres not a thing anyone can do about it. So me and a couple of other smashers. Are gonna hope for what ever we want. Infact right now the only thing that gives me a lil sour taste is not having all the characters return. Trick.
May isn't going to happen,and that has been said numerous times.

you can hope all you want,but dreams don't come true,or do idiotic wishes,if that were the case,we would all be Hitler's bit'ches by now.

I would also like to ask you to use paragraphs in your mini-wall of text.
 

tirkaro

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with a few tweaks, this could be a pretty darn good idea.

I can see this as more of a multiplayer adventure mode. such as there is a small overworld in one area which is a gateway to other areas. like say the main overworld is the super mario world and there are a few paths here and there. one paths leads to hyrule castle, one path leads to planet zebes, one path to the congo jungle, etc. the areas act as large dungeons and there are various NPCs lying about that give you objectives. these objectives can perhaps range from finding another character in a "dungeon" or collecting as many certain objects as possible.
one thing I dont count on though, is leveling up. thats just impossible to implement. perhaps some bonus costumes here and there, but I dont think it would have anything too dramatic.
tis would be pretty cool though.
 

YOSHIDO

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You relize that those people have lives right?And you relize that those 6 years of development could have amounted to an entire season of future game development.You want them to waste 6 years of development on a feature for you and some other idiot?They might as well throw there Yen away.



So you want Nintendo to lose money to satisfy your lust for a whored out MMORPG?

Go play WoW,and quit bing an idiot. O knowwss not the money. Myamoto gotta stay fly.

Again we never said the whole smash game would be an mmorpg. A mode. read it.
I never said it wasnt going to be a fighting game. Read the whole statemnt. Didnt u notice the whole worde called MODE.



Brawl is going to be a completely diffirent game,and you assuming that it wont only justifies that your ignorence is on a higher level than I assumed.And we all know what assume means...Making an A S S-out of-U-and-ME.

Hmm thats what im saying. My idea. And others people ideas. Like the store. Were thinkin up things to be sure to make Brawl just ish on melee. Cmon now. No one wants to see what happend with Halo 2 happen to smash. Im not sayin its gonna be bad. We all are just thinkin of stuff to help out.

So you want smash to no longer become a Fighting game,but a gay mock MMO?



Realisticaly.. IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!!



May isn't going to happen,and that has been said numerous times.

you can hope all you want,but dreams don't come true,or do idiotic wishes,if that were the case,we would all be Hitler's bit'ches by now. K and? I kinda don't see any way for u to stop us from thinkin ideas.

I would also like to ask you to use paragraphs in your mini-wall of text.
What else are they goin do with the money. Cmon now. THis is one of Nintendo's biggest titles this gen. And its hard to see anything else that would top smash. We all know Smash has a great and long gameplay life. Why do you keep whining. U act like they shouldnt put as mutch as they possible can. While still making money. U act like they shouldnt make it the very best they can. Omg Teh time wasted. Who the heck cares about time. Im pretty sure nintendo isn't goin to rush themsevles. They could add one new clip in may and that would create enough hype until whenver.
 

Sensai

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U act like they shouldnt make it the very best they can.
No, he acts like he wants it to be the very best game it possibly can. Meaning, excluding any time-wasting, uneccessary modes.

I'd much rather have a much more in depth single player (hell, even like this. It doesn't matter. I have faith in them.) and a great multiplayer then have a decent single player, a great multiplayer, and a hurried through and rushed along MMORPG mode.
 

xeno

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All I saw was "Smas Bros." and "MMORPG". And I'm not going to read the rest. That's a terrible idea. Go grind your character to WOW, I hear they got a new expansion pack that adds 10 more life-wasting levels or something. Maybe you can get top-tier if you play enough..
 

NG7

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What else are they goin do with the money. Cmon now. THis is one of Nintendo's biggest titles this gen. And its hard to see anything else that would top smash. We all know Smash has a great and long gameplay life. Why do you keep whining. U act like they shouldnt put as mutch as they possible can. While still making money. U act like they shouldnt make it the very best they can. Omg Teh time wasted. Who the heck cares about time. Im pretty sure nintendo isn't goin to rush themsevles. They could add one new clip in may and that would create enough hype until whenver.
Like Eternal Phoenix said, this would take a large amount of resources. Smash is popular for its unique gameplay. An MMO Smash would not be able to compete with WoW and the likes. There's no point. If you want to unlock costumes why not keep that on the Wii instead of making it online?

What else are they going to do with their money? :urg: Oh dear. I won't answer that.

MMO Smash = fail.
 
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