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NorCal Melee Power Rankings - Summer '15 Update - In Sickness and In Filth

NeighborhoodP

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Hahaha, Hyuga looks nothing like the online persona I imagined for him. Too bad I only got to play your Jiggs once.
 

KIngGerudo

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I say one more PR before brawl comes out, but thats just my opinion. good job Baysians at SCC and to the rest of the smashers from norcal who went. I envy you all.
 

The King

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**NEW RANKINGS AS OF 10/01/07**

This has been done without a panel, without "tourney results" and without having played the majority of norcal in over half a year. No Johns, place your trust in The King.

If you aren't on my list, it's probably because I haven't played you in friendlies in a while or I don't know how good you are anymore. Also, if you go around saying stuff like "I'm not even that good, I play DK" I'm probably going to be forced to take your word for it.

If there are ties it's because I'm not very confrontational and have grown less biased over the years.

Without Further Ado:

1. Isai
2. King's Jiggs
3. SS's Falcon
4. Bob$'s Marth
4. Zelgadis' Fox
4. Germ's Link
4. Bob$'s Doc
4. Lunin's Fox
4. Falcomist's Falco
4. Tang's Fox
11. Zhu's Falco
11. King's Marth
11. Germ's Sheik
11. Frotaz's Ganon
11. Hyuga's Jiggs
11. Foxroar
17. Sidefx
17. The Snap
17. Hella's Peach
17. Bob$'s Falcon
21. SS's Roy
21. Frotaz's Ganon
21. Recipherus
21. FTA
25. Nobody deserves to be put at the end of a list.

Notables (People below the list but worth being mentioned LOL nobody deserves to be in here):

Kawn KBalls KoF - doesn't want to be ranked but should be
Mexican - really isn't that good
Simna - doesn't exist because he doesn't smash with ppl who judge and rank him
SmackDave because he's famous and legendary even if overswarm didn't know who he is
Some other guys

Well I hoped you like my list, I didn't put much work into it, but it's the thought that counts! Until next time...

King Out
 

MEXICAN

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**NEW RANKINGS AS OF 10/01/07**

This has been done without a panel, without "tourney results" and without having played the majority of norcal in over half a year. No Johns, place your trust in The King.

If you aren't on my list, it's probably because I haven't played you in friendlies in a while or I don't know how good you are anymore. Also, if you go around saying stuff like "I'm not even that good, I play DK" I'm probably going to be forced to take your word for it.

If there are ties it's because I'm not very confrontational and have grown less biased over the years.

Without Further Ado:

1. Isai
2. King's Jiggs
3. SS's Falcon
4. Bob$'s Marth
4. Zelgadis' Fox
4. Germ's Link
4. Bob$'s Doc
4. Lunin's Fox
4. Falcomist's Falco
4. Tang's Fox
11. Zhu's Falco
11. King's Marth
11. Germ's Sheik
11. Frotaz's Ganon
11. Hyuga's Jiggs
11. Foxroar
17. Sidefx
17. The Snap
17. Hella's Peach
17. Bob$'s Falcon
21. SS's Roy
21. Frotaz's Ganon
21. Recipherus
21. FTA
25. Nobody deserves to be put at the end of a list.

Notables (People below the list but worth being mentioned LOL nobody deserves to be in here):

Kawn KBalls KoF - doesn't want to be ranked but should be
Mexican - really isn't that good
Simna - doesn't exist because he doesn't smash with ppl who judge and rank him
SmackDave because he's famous and legendary even if overswarm didn't know who he is
Some other guys

Well I hoped you like my list, I didn't put much work into it, but it's the thought that counts! Until next time...

King Out
Hahaha, yeah, i'm sorry. I'm really not that good, i use dk. I just hoped i could make it anyways without people actually realizing how much i suck at this game, but at least i made it as a notable! King made this list and King can't be wrong. Oh well, i'm just not that good
 

KIngGerudo

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**NEW RANKINGS AS OF 10/01/07**

This has been done without a panel, without "tourney results" and without having played the majority of norcal in over half a year. No Johns, place your trust in The King.

If you aren't on my list, it's probably because I haven't played you in friendlies in a while or I don't know how good you are anymore. Also, if you go around saying stuff like "I'm not even that good, I play DK" I'm probably going to be forced to take your word for it.

If there are ties it's because I'm not very confrontational and have grown less biased over the years.

Without Further Ado:

1. Isai
2. King's Jiggs
3. SS's Falcon
4. Bob$'s Marth
4. Zelgadis' Fox
4. Germ's Link
4. Bob$'s Doc
4. Lunin's Fox
4. Falcomist's Falco
4. Tang's Fox
11. Zhu's Falco
11. King's Marth
11. Germ's Sheik
11. Frotaz's Ganon
11. Hyuga's Jiggs
11. Foxroar
17. Sidefx
17. The Snap
17. Hella's Peach
17. Bob$'s Falcon
21. SS's Roy
21. Frotaz's Ganon
21. Recipherus
21. FTA
25. Nobody deserves to be put at the end of a list.

Notables (People below the list but worth being mentioned LOL nobody deserves to be in here):

Kawn KBalls KoF - doesn't want to be ranked but should be
Mexican - really isn't that good
Simna - doesn't exist because he doesn't smash with ppl who judge and rank him
SmackDave because he's famous and legendary even if overswarm didn't know who he is
Some other guys

Well I hoped you like my list, I didn't put much work into it, but it's the thought that counts! Until next time...

King Out
thread closed. this is awesome. i think Frotaz's number 11 and 21 need to be higher. i wish i was on that list. great none the less
 

MEXICAN

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yes mexican should be on the power rankings.
Haha, well not being on the power rankings and people seeing that i picked Donkey Kong as i sat down really helped make it easier for people to underestimate me at the tourney. I almost wanted to go up to all of them afterwards and be like "Dude! You just lost to a Donkey Kong player thats not even ranked in the top 20 in NorCal. How does that make you feel?" haha, but that would be just plain mean
 

jmic

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I'd be proud to be just in the top 50 after only having been in the competitive scene for less than a year.

But then again, there's a ****load of people better than me. =]

And yeah, I think one more PR before Brawl should do it.
 

tc1

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..well if you guys do decide to do one last ranking make sure some of the panelist are going to the next biweekly ^_-..
 

quak

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hey, maybe the last one could be like top 40 or something like that, make it real definite that it's the last official power rankings forever

plus it'll satisfy more ppl
 

choknater

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Will King and Zel be on the next ranking? lol. Since the last ranking King got 5th at 0c3 and Zel did well (17th, beat DSF) at SCC. *shrug* whatever
 

TheZhuKeeper

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Will King and Zel be on the next ranking? lol. Since the last ranking King got 5th at 0c3 and Zel did well (17th, beat DSF) at SCC. *shrug* whatever
**** that. hydrokirby should be at least top 10 because he beat m2k once in pools. i don't think ANYBODY in norcal has done that recently. but seriously, he deserves to be on the rankings before melee dies.

zel should definitely be on the rankings. we should keep king off the rankings. it'll serve as incentive for him to come back to **** us all =)

let's see... mexican should be ranked to keep ppl from saying **** like "i just lost to some unranked DK player 'that's not good' " LOL. meep should go up. falcomist should go up. dark mike / snap / foxroar should be either lower or removed as they haven't showed up in a while.

wheee.
 

ender

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I am fine with another ranking but just because brawl may be coming out doesnt mean we should do anything different. People are still going to play some form of smash and whoever is the best at the most popular form will be on the norcal list.
 

HyugaRicdeau

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Well we might do another rankings list and have it extended, but I think that people often forget that these rankings lists, in the end, are just for fun. We don't take it super seriously as panelists because there's no reason to, and neither should anyone else.

But it almost always seems like that a bunch of people who take the list too seriously always get all up ins when we make a new list. I'm fairly certain that a number of people will get butthurt when they find out that 5 people don't think they are 40th best in Norcal.

I think it's great if people want to use their rankings to get a good idea of where they stand in the community, and to use it to gauge their improvement. The list is essentially a compression of the past into a list, not a predictor or an estimation of the future.

BUT. I think a number of people get the wrong idea of what the list is all about. Only you can really ever know how good you are. Now, you can delude yourself or deprecate yourself, but you still are alone in your ability to know your capabilities. Being a certain spot on the list does not change that. The list is just a best guess based on how you've done against other people on or near the list. You aren't suddenly good or bad because of where you are on the list.

So my advice to everyone is:

Shut up. Think just about the match in front of you. Play because you like the game, and not to make a number on a list decrease. Conversely, don't look at a number and immediately decide how good someone ELSE is. Just. Play.
 

Mew2King

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lol @ one match in pools, he shined me in the beginning, i missed my jump and died at like 15%, and on my last stock i forgot he was at high enough % to tech the dair so i died again when he teched it, and it was out of 3 stock. No offense or anything but that's not a very good reason to base things off of esp when the other two matches weren't even semi close. Mango should probably be 2nd on this list right now, he's an active player that's been doing good recently. King has been inactive so I don't know what to say about him. Isai is also random.
 

choknater

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lol @ one match in pools, he shined me in the beginning, i missed my jump and died at like 15%, and on my last stock i forgot he was at high enough % to tech the dair so i died again when he teched it, and it was out of 3 stock. No offense or anything but that's not a very good reason to base things off of esp when the other two matches weren't even semi close. Mango should probably be 2nd on this list right now, he's an active player that's been doing good recently. King has been inactive so I don't know what to say about him. Isai is also random.
Mango lives in Socal.


To Zhu: Dark Mike moved to Socal.


lol @ Socal
 

TheZhuKeeper

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lol @ one match in pools, he shined me in the beginning, i missed my jump and died at like 15%, and on my last stock i forgot he was at high enough % to tech the dair so i died again when he teched it, and it was out of 3 stock. No offense or anything but that's not a very good reason to base things off of esp when the other two matches weren't even semi close. Mango should probably be 2nd on this list right now, he's an active player that's been doing good recently. King has been inactive so I don't know what to say about him. Isai is also random.
hehe m2k, we know that it's not an accurate way to judge him, but his win is just too fun to joke about it xD.

mango lives in socal by the way, not norcal. apparently cali is big enough to have two separate rankings.

choc: yep i know mike moved, that's why i said he should be lowered / removed. i'm gonna miss him =(
 

HyugaRicdeau

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I also forgot to mention:

To start 2008, I want to replace the rankings list with some kind of points-based list, where points are gotten by beating other people, like Chess ELO rankings for example. Before I get into it, I want to clarify that this is just an idea I've had. It's not a definite thing that it will happen, and I haven't had a formal discussion with other panelists/community members yet. It's just an idea.

Everybody would start out with the same Rating, and ratings would go up or down based on the rating of the people you beat/lose to. All new people that come into the community would start with a certain rating. Now, the only problem I can forsee with this is that out-of-region people won't have a Norcal rating. I haven't come up with a solution although I have a number of ideas.

I just wanted to post this to see what people's reactions would be to having a points list replace a panel list.
 

Zoap

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myko cares, deep down inside.

That sounds ok to me sheridan lol

I beat m2k in crews at oc2 when pc was telling him to hurry up cuz manacloud wouldnt let them eat till they finished the crew battle.

I guess Mexican is kinda good now, but remember he uses DK

Lord is good too, of course Falco is broken so that helps

I dont know why I post like this :)
 

MEXICAN

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Haha, i kinda liked the thought of beating some of the best smashers when i use DK and i'm not even good enough to be ranked at all. What would you think if you went up against a low tier character used by somebody that wasn't even ranked at all? You would think it was an easy battle, which people did, and paid for it. And I'm really not that good, i use DK. And Mew2king, no johns. hahaha, jk. I think that the FTA in general should be moved up. The FTA is greatly underestimated IMO, but thats just my opinion. GIANT PUNCH FTW!

*edit* and i took one round off of ChuDat and Taj in pools and Hugs in tournament, doesn't that count? And i beat some really good people like SilentWolf. BTW, the combo i did on him was sexy, Zoap and Zodiac Lucien were lucky enough to witness the sexiness. haha
 

Miztik

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Yeah ratings/rankings shouldn't even be cared about anymore.

Be like me, i only cared for a second or two and then alt-tabbed back to Maple [back then]

Now it's..hmm..yup. x]

Just go eat or something.
what are you talkin bout myko you still alt-tab back to maple lololololololololololololol

or did you quit maple? :confused:
 

Delphiki

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M2K's SDs ****ed me out of brackets. On that note, he (HK) beat Frotaz. I'll hold my tongue on the rest of my opinions.

On Mike: I think you guys should at least determine the place he would be if he stayed in Norcal. He seriously ***** at the last NCB he went to. FYI, he's coming back but nobody knows when.

I think the list should stay at 20, with a small list (at least 5) of people who are VERY close to being ranked, There are a bunch of players who have beaten ranked players several times and typically don't lose to unranked players that haven't beaten rankers. People like Lucien, Yen, Myko... there are more too but I'm sleepy. The list needs a catchy name too.

Also, choknater should be ranked, and would be by now if he could make it to more NCBs.
 
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