No L-canceling confirmed in final game.

[Adi]

**** that. I'll save my money for Devil May Cry 4.

 

[slikvik]

**** that. I'll save my money for Devil May Cry 4.

lol, im getting a ps3 and tekken 6 now. no reason to get a wii for a pure party game

 

[Adi]

Yeah good call, Wii has been so lackluster lately and I was hoping that Brawl would be a good reason to have the console. Maybe if we're lucky they won't screw up Mario Kart -.-

 

[Tristan_win]

Waiting...dashdancing too! ****! What's left? Instead of making a thread about just one technical skill maybe we should make a thread listing what's left.

 

[AcidJazz]

My friend is playing. First impression... "ITS SOOOO SLOW"

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Actually, Dash Dancing is still in the game.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qROesVhZ1JY

Around 2:00-2:05

 

[Heavyarms2050]

but how do you explain some the matches posted on youtube L-cancel seem to exist. For example, i saw a match where CF did his knee and when landed, he had no lag whatsoever. But later in match, when he did his knee again and landed, there noticeable lag.

 

[Adi]

Hmm, why would M2K say that it wasn't then. Perhaps you can only pivot within the first few opening frames?

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Hmm, why would M2K say that it wasn't then. Perhaps you can only pivot within the first few opening frames?

No, you can fully dash dance.

This has been confirmed since E For All. It works just like it did in Melee. (Minus the Ink Drop)

 

[Buddha]

so, someone wanna help me out here? except for WD, any of these CONFIRMED by those who actually HAVE the game???

(Video references would be preferable)

Wavedashing = out
L-canceling (pressing L/R/Z) = out
Other forms of Lag-canceling = TBD
Dashdancing = ?
SHL / Land-cancelling B moves = ?
Reverse Neutral B = ?
Float-Cancelling = ?

 

[Adi]

Again, why would M2K say it does not exist. He obviously has the capability to do it, is it limited to certain characters, or certain frames? That is the question I am asking.

but how do you explain some the matches posted on youtube L-cancel seem to exist. For example, i saw a match where CF did his knee and when landed, he had no lag whatsoever. But later in match, when he did his knee again and landed, there noticeable lag.

Link to the vid, my bet is that by the time he reached the ground his attack was already over.

 

[slikvik]

Again, why would M2K say it does not exist. He obviously has the capability to do it, is it limited to certain characters, or certain frames? That is the question I am asking.



Link to the vid, my bet is that by the time he reached the ground his attack was already over.

Actually m2k got his info from xelic, who has the game

 

[Buddha]

so, someone wanna help me out here? except for WD, any of these CONFIRMED by those who actually HAVE the game???

(Video references would be preferable)

Wavedashing = out
L-canceling (pressing L/R/Z) = out
Other forms of Lag-canceling = TBD
Dashdancing = ?
SHL / Land-cancelling B moves = ?
Reverse Neutral B = ?
Float-Cancelling = ?

okay, EDIT: DD confirmed

Wavedashing = out
L-canceling (pressing L/R/Z) = out
Other forms of Lag-canceling = TBD
Dashdancing = IN
SHL / Land-cancelling B moves = ?
Reverse Neutral B = ?
Float-Cancelling = ?

 

[Angrylobster]

okay, EDIT: DD confirmed

Wavedashing = out
L-canceling (pressing L/R/Z) = out
Other forms of Lag-canceling = TBD
Dashdancing = IN
SHL / Land-cancelling B moves = ?
Reverse Neutral B = ?
Float-Cancelling = ?

I've been hearing float-canceling still exists. At least in the demo versions, not sure if they took it out in the final product or not

 

[Adi]

Yeah I believe Float Cancelling exists, however if L-cancelling is out and float-cancelling is in that is a horrible thing because of how overpowering Peach players will be towards other characters.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Yeah I believe Float Cancelling exists, however if L-cancelling is out and float-cancelling is in that is a horrible thing because of how overpowering Peach players will be towards other characters.

*Coughmetaknightascounterpickcough*

 

[Adi]

The prospect of everyone playing as Meta and Peach isn't much more appealing then just Peach -.-.

 

[Heavyarms2050]

Again, why would M2K say it does not exist. He obviously has the capability to do it, is it limited to certain characters, or certain frames? That is the question I am asking.



Link to the vid, my bet is that by the time he reached the ground his attack was already over.

quite opposite, between 4:30-4:32, he short jumps there were no lag whatsoever when he landed. His second knee is 4:59-5:01 much higher when he executed it, there noticeable

 

[Adi]

Once again could I see the link?

 

[Heavyarms2050]

oopps sorry forgot the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGcvQqUFN7U

 

[WastingPenguins]

At 4:30 he simply didn't fast fall, which is vital if you want to sweetspot that move, at least in Melee. At 5:00 he knees right before touching the ground and suffers lag.

 

[Adi]

Yup, you're never going to hit anyone with a knee like that first one.

 

[S2]

The good Japanese players have this by now correct?

Are they actively searching for stuff? Given how fast they reported from the demo, you'd think thye'd be discussing this on 2Ch.

Besides, I'm tired of watching terrible players on Youtube. Its frustratin.