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CT Chia

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the differences are so miniscule really
like the only difference between dm's tourney and unity was pictochat (which is being discussed currently, and who knows, could be gone by the time your tournament comes around), coaching (which is kind of a moot point), and the lgl, which was very similar anyway.
 

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The Unity ruleset is nearly the same as the original being used. I keep saying this.

We spoke about this earlier Yes! You didn't like that all infinites were legal because of IC's infinite but as I said that infinite has always been allowed. Picto may be taken off soon.

Inui's stagelist is as boring as my feet. Still love his tournies though. Tbh if Inui did try to create the "most fair" stage list he shouldn't have both Rainbow and Brinstar on.
 

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I still don't get the whole Rainbow Brinstar debate because I think Delfino is just as advantageous for MK as Brinstar or Rainbow are in almost every matchup MK ***** with BrinstarCruise anyway
 

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I saw you post about that recently. I don't think Delphino is that bad vs MK at all. When the stage is moving it is the most annoying vs mk but most of the transformations are fine vs mk imo. Just gotta really deal with the gay sharking. I also don't like the ledges but only cause I'm Falco.

Moves/combos usually done on the floor of Brinstar become near impossible to do because the floor of Brinstar is uneven, has those blocks, and randomly stops players near the blocks. Then lava comes up forcing ground characters to jump around or go on small platforms. I just think that stage is too arial based.

RC isn't that bad imo but that stage is still kinda ******** with its possible early kills, wall locks, and silly left side of the stage. It just seems so far different from the other starters and cps that I'm a little suprised that its allowed over other possible cps (jungle, norfair, others).
 

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Rainbow/Brinstar limit many character's recovery/mobility respectively, while MK destroys everything on both stages. Delfino does not limit either aspect.

Also, DDD ***** all of the characters he has infinites on. There's no need to make the matches 100:0.
 

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I will agree with you on the infinites. I only agreed to it earlier because Esam tricked me into thinking that everyone can get out of all DDD the infinites.

He words things in ways that make the wrong seem right (Eazy 2.0??)
 

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I saw you post about that recently. I don't think Delphino is that bad vs MK at all. When the stage is moving it is the most annoying vs mk but most of the transformations are fine vs mk imo. Just gotta really deal with the gay sharking. I also don't like the ledges but only cause I'm Falco.

Moves/combos usually done on the floor of Brinstar become near impossible to do because the floor of Brinstar is uneven, has those blocks, and randomly stops players near the blocks. Then lava comes up forcing ground characters to jump around or go on small platforms. I just think that stage is too arial based.

RC isn't that bad imo but that stage is still kinda ******** with its possible early kills, wall locks, and silly left side of the stage. It just seems so far different from the other starters and cps that I'm a little suprised that its allowed over other possible cps (jungle, norfair, others).
Rainbow/Brinstar limit many character's recovery/mobility respectively, while MK destroys everything on both stages. Delfino does not limit either aspect.

Also, DDD ***** all of the characters he has infinites on. There's no need to make the matches 100:0.
Similar to what Yes said about Rainbow and Brinstar is how it limits mobility and such, which is sort of the case for Delfino and MK in a way. The stage's transformations are incredibly varied. Some have tons of ledges, some have none, some are flat, some are awkwardly sloped, some have low kill zones, some have high, etc. While some characters can take advantage of one or two options, MK is so versatile that he basically feels at home on every transformation. Beyond that water is prevalent on multiple transforms (which is always awesome for him), and a transparent stage 50% of the time for ultimate sharking. The one transformation that might be cool against him (the FD like one) has water on both sides with not that large size blastzones making it awesome for MK again lol.

As for DDD, so if you want to fix those matchups, why don't you give Ganondorf the punch time rule? Punch time is where if you are playing as Ganondorf (or Falcon sometimes), you can yell out PUNCH TIME! 3 times per match. When you do, your opponent must let you ganon punch him. It's a rule that makes matches more fun and makes his matchups not exactly 100-0. So why not?
 

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I know what punch time is.

Chibo I hope that's now what you guys talk about in your backroom, since there's other characters who *might* be able to beat DDD if there's no infinites/small steps allowed.
 

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lol thats definitely not how we talk back there at all honestly. I don't even remember the last time anyone said (lol).
 

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Bottom line is, you want to allow some infinites but not others with no real solid reasoning. Implying like DDD doesn't already **** Mario or Marth doesn't already **** Ness. And yet plenty of people say DDD isn't viable because of how badly he loses to characters like MK Olimar Falco Pika etc etc
It's like a double edged sword
So DDD needs a CP for those characters but DK shouldn't need a CP for DDD?
If you want to fix certain matchups, you need rules to fix them all. If you want to play a game where everything can be changed to make everyone viable, play Brawl+ or Project M. We're playing the game we were provided with.
 

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I like not being mindless :( like I really can't sit there and have that mindset without thinking "wtf?"

Edit: Like I could support those rules, but it'd be like punching a baby or listening to Rebecca Black...
 

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Well the biggest problems imo seem to be Picto and all Infinites being allowed, which isn't a big stretch at all and both are currently being thoroughly discussed as we speak.

I think its fine and anyone who thinks its crazy likes to pee in their mouth 3 times a day.
 

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Seriously, how can you say "well if it's in the game, it's okay!" when THE GUY WHO MADE THE GAME said it was made to be uncompetitive?
 

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I agree with your post Yes but Chibo never said "well if it's in the game, it's okay!"

Also I love your new avy Chibo.
 

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Way to say absolutely nothing lol.
Its hard to say anything back to nothing. You made up something as if Chibo said it, wtf you expect me to say lol.

In the end you can just run whatever ruleset you like. Being stickied and featured really only matters for bigger established tournies anyway. If multiple OOR players show interest than you may be in some trouble. Tbh the only NJ/NY tournies that the Unity ruleset can pose a problem to are Inui's tournies, KTARs, and Polybrawls statistically.

Being featured on aib is still semicool since you don't have to be a huge tourney to be on it (I believe)

What matters the most is making the players who attend happy imo.
 

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Its hard to say anything back to nothing. You made up something as if Chibo said it, wtf you expect me to say lol.
We're playing the game we were provided with.
When I'm not trolling, I don't lie.

And as I've said before, being forced to do anything FOR A VIDEOGAME, by a secret club, is stupid. I'll just hit up mad threads and make a blog that I can get mods to recommend.
 

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I keep seeing that sig that says I'm ugly and worthless and for a while I thought you were just posting that over and over.

You sick ****.
 

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Your sig is too long Chibo, I reported you to Chibosempai.
When I'm not trolling, I don't lie.

And as I've said before, being forced to do anything FOR A VIDEOGAME, by a secret club, is stupid. I'll just hit up mad threads and make a blog that I can get mods to recommend.
No one is being forced to do anything though.

Being stickied and featured are overated imo. It won't double attendance or anything.

I'm just being honest to you.
 

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Do so if you'd like, but atm I firmly believe that being stickied or featured won't make much of a difference. Of course there will be some level of difference, but not enough.

I never took down the evidence of this but I've seen it many times. There are much more important factors that go into getting attendance than being stickied or featured.
 

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@ Love: Personally, no. I think I officially hate Capcom fighting games now. But I had fun times with that one. If its $30 or lower than you should get it if you really want it. If you had a PS3 or 360 MVC3 would of course be a better option.
 
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