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[Chrono.]

Considering it's one of the flagship weapons of the series, it's hilarious how bad Oblivion is in KH1.

Oathkeeper isn't much better but at least it doesn't actively nerf you.

Edrick better have an alt that makes him look like Goku for the glory of memes.

I feel like at the very least his trailer will say something like "The Hero is designed by legendary comic artist Akira Toriyama, best known for the Dragon Ball series." We could probably see some cheeky nod in a screen shot or something.

Like Erdrick posing with a Rayquaza.

 

[Z25]

One things for sure if hero is in the data with stuff like their weight and if they have a flurry attack, then I think we get hem next direct.

Also if the full fighter pass rumor is real what do you guys think?

Something worth noting is that everyone at game explain is team fully real. Even Derrick. Considering they had a hard no on the grinch leak and wouldn’t even bother; this tells me they likely know something very crucial to that rumor that we don’t.

 

[Chrono.]

One things for sure if hero is in the data with stuff like their weight and if they have a flurry attack, then I think we get hem next direct.

Also if the full fighter pass rumor is real what do you guys think?

Something worth noting is that everyone at game explain is team fully real. Even Derrick. Considering they had a hard no on the grinch leak and wouldn’t even bother; this tells me they likely know something very crucial to that rumor that we don’t.

I mean... they're probably team real because the datamine is out there and it's hard to argue against Brave meaning DQ Hero.

It's almost as black and white as the Roy and Ryu leak.

The Grinch only had circumstantial evidence going for it and the longer it went on the weaker it got.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Apparently I'm a decent , he's easier for me to play than Young Link

Toon Link above all other Links

 

[Z25]

I mean... they're probably team real because the datamine is out there and it's hard to argue against Brave meaning DQ Hero.

It's almost as black and white as the Roy and Ryu leak.

The Grinch only had circumstantial evidence going for it and the longer it went on the weaker it got.

I’m not talking team real for dragon quest. They all agree the datamine is real. I’m talking the leak they discussed with the test of the fighter pass supposedly based on this guy that got 3 different game announcements and joker right before any of them happen.

For reference the list is:

Spoiler

Erdrick, ryu habussea, Steve with an Alex and master chief pallete, and doom slayer. They figured that with the datamine and the rest of the right info plus the rest of dlc characters being legacy characters, have made them team real on that leak too.

 

[Chrono.]

Sora has a Brave Form so it's him obviously.

 

[Coricus]

I’m not talking team real for dragon quest. They all agree the datamine is real. I’m talking the leak they discussed with the test of the fighter pass supposedly based on this guy that got 3 different game announcements and joker right before any of them happen.

For reference the list is:

Spoiler

Erdrick, ryu habussea, Steve with an Alex and master chief pallete, and doom slayer. They figured that with the datamine and the rest of the right info plus the rest of dlc characters being legacy characters, have made them team real on that leak too.

Honestly, was that even the same leak though?

Because I'm pretty darn sure the earliest Erdrick chatter was just him and Joker and the rest of all this bull was just channers hitching their wagon to it.

And I'm not the type to instantly dismiss leaks because they come from chans, but. . .no. If Joker started a month ago, and considering Piranha Plant isn't out until February I have no real reason to doubt that, Erdrick is probably little better than code. The remaining three characters probably aren't much more than concept art being passed around to their respective companies right now, I doubt if Nintendo wants "surprises" that they're leaving sticky notes on every door with the Fighter Pass characters listed off on them, which is basically what the whole thing leaking would kind of imply right now.

 

[Chrono.]

I doubt if Nintendo wants "surprises" that they're leaving sticky notes on every door with the Fighter Pass characters listed off on them, which is basically what the whole thing leaking would kind of imply right now.

Just like the Box leak amirite?

 

[Coricus]

Just like the Box leak amirite?

I know this is supposed to be a "gotcha" moment, and I did kinda sorta quietly doubt the Box Leak,

But at least in that case all the characters were already decided on for months before that even got passed around. And that had freely available official materials backing it up, which Erdrick does (in a capacity that kind of implies that he's earlier on than the other characters in the code) but none of these other tagalongs have going for them. Like, maybe I'm just tired and crotchety at this hour, but are we acting like we've never seen ride-hitching leaks before? Because Erdrick was bouncing around for a WHILE before the rest of this came up.

It's like looking at a discarded pair of pants with a bunch of burrs on it and going "Wow, look at the spiky trim on these pants!"

*EDIT* Like, there was a reason I kept my mouth shut on the Box Leak while I pretty openly thought the Grinch was bull, and it's the same reason I'll readily accept Erdrick being a thing now that there's actual code to show for it while every other character gets a hard PRESS X TO DOUBT from me

*EDIT 2* IDK I'm just tired of everyone eating up every super fake looking Smash Leak like it's dinner, telling everyone else who speculates characters outside the leak to shut the hell up, then ending up inevitably wrong and acting super shocked and angry about being "lied to" by NINTENDO as opposed to the leakers. And watch we're gonna get a Gen 8 Pokemon leaked off a slip of paper in a few months and THAT'S gonna be called fake as hell right up until said Pokemon gets announced. Because of course.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

JESUS NOW THE RPG KAMEN RIDER BEING CALLED BRAVE MAKES SENSE HIS FIRST FORM IS EVEN A DRAGON QUEST REFERENCE **** I'M DUMB

 

[Z25]

Honestly, was that even the same leak though?

Because I'm pretty darn sure the earliest Erdrick chatter was just him and Joker and the rest of all this bull was just channers hitching their wagon to it.

And I'm not the type to instantly dismiss leaks because they come from chans, but. . .no. If Joker started a month ago, and considering Piranha Plant isn't out until February I have no real reason to doubt that, Erdrick is probably little better than code. The remaining three characters probably aren't much more than concept art being passed around to their respective companies right now, I doubt if Nintendo wants "surprises" that they're leaving sticky notes on every door with the Fighter Pass characters listed off on them, which is basically what the whole thing leaking would kind of imply right now.

This is what is being seen as real by GX:
https://gearnuke.com/new-super-smash-bros-ultimate-lea/


It seemingly the oldest list with joker, sure eldrick could have been here based on previous speculation but they could just as easily have real info. It got persona five r stuff right, joker, and seemingly erdrick.

Add onto the fact they also list some skin details for characters. Which implies concept art has been put out there.

We pretty much 90 percent know that DLC was planned early in development and if everyone is third party it had to be done alongside the base game which depending on how you view Sakurai a statements this could be the case.( I believe it is but people kind of debate it)

So far it has two things right and seemingly a third. All we need to see really is edrick with these pallete swaps and stage stuff and I’d say it’s likely real.

Nintendo’s not great with keeping things under wraps. So someone knowing the whole fighter isn’t totally unlikely imo. These characters are all decided so multiple companies would know about them.

 

[Aurane]

If we can't have Goku, then I guess Eldrick will do. Take what you can get. Quite frankly, I wanted neither of them.

 

[Z25]

-brave is thought to be a mistranslation of hero from Japanese:

-she’s in.
I want to be tracer.

Your reaction if this happened?

 

[Coricus]

This is what is being seen as real by GX:
https://gearnuke.com/new-super-smash-bros-ultimate-lea/


It seemingly the oldest list with joker, sure eldrick could have been here based on previous speculation but they could just as easily have real info. It got persona five r stuff right, joker, and seemingly erdrick.

Add onto the fact they also list some skin details for characters. Which implies concept art has been put out there.

We pretty much 90 percent know that DLC was planned early in development and if everyone is third party it had to be done alongside the base game which depending on how you view Sakurai a statements this could be the case.( I believe it is but people kind of debate it)

So far it has two things right and seemingly a third. All we need to see really is edrick with these pallete swaps and stage stuff and I’d say it’s likely real.

Nintendo’s not great with keeping things under wraps. So someone knowing the whole fighter isn’t totally unlikely imo. These characters are all decided so multiple companies would know about them.

The fact that the first thing I see on that page is the news platform touting their coverage of a super fake as hell leak with Erdrick and Steve in it. . .does not inspire particular confidence in my buying into all this. And Sakurai stated that the characters were decided on super recently when he said it (which was almost when Ultimate was out) and everything else he's said so far has seemed to pan out despite the fandom insisting otherwise, so . . .also not buying that.

Like, if it came down to the companies negotiated with that are bouncing around, that I can maybe see backed up for a while longer. Sega, Squeenix, Microsoft, Bethesda, etc. Bethesda was already clearly buttered up to hell and in talks before the time frame where the DLC was solidified judging by one interview, and if you can get in the loop on Microsoft being talked to Steve is clear common sense if you've already called Microsoft unless you're this fandom which has goggles made of Jinjo buttcheeks glued to everyone's collective faces.

But I sat through gosh knows how many posts of Chrom and Chorus-Freaking-Whocaresiftheactualtranslationischoirboysamirite being confirmed for Smash 4 and saying a list is guaranteed accurate because it's working off information that was valid at some point is -STILL- a tire fire.

And I can see Steve in. Hell, I even could theoretically see Doomguy in, although considering Nintendo's already off their rocker as it is I would have expected them to shoot higher. Just taken as a whole the leak smells of fish to me and the more people insist otherwise without game data to pull up the more I get flashbacks to the last dozen leaks we've had.

 

[Z25]

The fact that the first thing I see on that page is the news platform touting their coverage of a super fake as hell leak with Erdrick and Steve in it. . .does not inspire particular confidence in my buying into all this. And Sakurai stated that the characters were decided on super recently when he said it (which was almost when Ultimate was out) and everything else he's said so far has seemed to pan out despite the fandom insisting otherwise, so . . .also not buying that.

Like, if it came down to the companies negotiated with that are bouncing around, that I can maybe see backed up for a while longer. Sega, Squeenix, Microsoft, Bethesda, etc. Bethesda was already clearly buttered up to hell and in talks before the time frame where the DLC was solidified judging by one interview, and if you can get in the loop on Microsoft being talked to Steve is clear common sense if you've already called Microsoft unless you're this fandom which has goggles made of Jinjo buttcheeks glued to everyone's collective faces.

But I sat through gosh knows how many posts of Chrom and Chorus-Freaking-Whocaresiftheactualtranslationischoirboysamirite being confirmed for Smash 4 and saying a list is guaranteed accurate because it's working off information that was valid at some point is -STILL- a tire fire.

And I can see Steve in. Hell, I even could theoretically see Doomguy in, although considering Nintendo's already off their rocker as it is I would have expected them to shoot higher. Just taken as a whole the leak smells of fish to me and the more people insist otherwise without game data to pull up the more I get flashbacks to the last dozen leaks we've had.

That’s fair enough. I’m not saying it’s fully real but it seems plausible to me.

I honestly can’t but Nintendo didn’t have dlc planned out though. Maybe not worked on but I think that list was made alongside the base roster.

It would explain verges wrong info because everyone has been telling us square has a rep coming. It would explain the Steve talk pre dlc as well. Nintendo also told us dlc wasn’t coming to smash 4 until they revealed mewtwo. But we know from the ersb leak that mewtwo has gameplay sent to them at that point or pictures at least. The leaker has a ? Next to mewtwo imply they knew he had to be coming.

Considering that and the fact that nintendo likes to work in dlc early say support isn’t coming yet for a game and then drop something out of nowhere, it’s not a stretch to me that dlc was long planned out.

My biggest problem with this rumor is that doom slayer would be announced at E3 when the gap till February 2020 the estimated time of fighters being fully released, would be a pretty big gap.

Sure it could be a stretch date in case things need to be delayed but that’s honestly a big gap imo that they shouldn’t need if doom slayer and Steve were being announced at E3. Especially since after joker I can’t every other fighter not have a full blown trailer as their first announcement.

 

[Jojalole]

-brave is thought to be a mistranslation of hero from Japanese:

-she’s in.
I want to be tracer.

Your reaction if this happened?

That would save the DLC pack 1 for me lol. I like Joker, but man I couldn't care less about the other 4 if true. An Overwatch character however would be super hype for me, and I don't know why it didn't cross my mind until now hahaha. Incredibly unlikely to happen, but I'd sure love it.

And if these end up being the true characters for DLC I really hope now that a DLC pack 2 happens, maybe focusing a bit on Nintendo characters instead of a third party fest.

 

[redfeatherraven]

unless you're this fandom which has goggles made of Jinjo buttcheeks glued to everyone's collective faces.

Jinjo.

Whee.



Also it took me a while to realize this was a Banjo Kazooie knock because I couldn't stop laughing long enough to figure it out.

 

[Chrono.]

Even though I think Brave is probably a DQ hero I don't really buy that one leak.

Why would Master Chief be a costume for Steve when Miis are right there? Why would Nintendo of Japan go for Doomguy when Doom is virtually non existent there? Also the whole "Steve was gonna be in the main game but got pushed back for DLC" makes no sense given Joker only just started development. Nothing about Hayabusa jumps out at me so I'll leave him alone.

The list seems plausible, but I'm not ready to believe it.

 

[Mythra]

Even though I think Brave is probably a DQ hero I don't really buy that one leak.

Why would Master Chief be a costume for Steve when Miis are right there?

To showcase the creative elements of Minecraft with "blocky cool outfits"

Why would Nintendo of Japan go for Doomguy when Doom is virtually non existent there?

It would be a real unexpected choice because of that.

Also the whole "Steve was gonna be in the main game but got pushed back for DLC" makes no sense given Joker only just started development.

Yeah, that's a point I hope it kills the leak, I mean, it would suck Steve taking a DLC spot despite being planned earlier just for commercial purposes.

Nothing about Hayabusa jumps out at me so I'll leave him alone.
The list seems plausible, but I'm not ready to believe it.

Basically the only one dude I want to happen lol
Specially if we get this song

 

[redfeatherraven]

Y'all making it hard to quip.

Red's thoughts on the leak are as follows:

- Still not thrilled about Erdrick but as I've stated Ultimate has a way of surprising me with how much I enjoy characters I'm not hyped over. Benefit of the doubt till he's in my hands.
- Steve I've long considered plausible from Microsoft.
- Long considered Doomguy too from Bethesda.
- Ryu Hayubusa sounds like someone's thrown a Hail Mary for their wet dream pick or a poison pill intended to deter leakers.
- Sakurai's already made it clear that we should not be expecting who we get by throwing out Joker, who before the Game Awards I only ever saw brought up as Alpharad's wet dream pick.
- Therefore maybe these incredibly obvious guesses should all be disregarded till we got proper data.

And that's all this discussion gets till I see assets or a moveset. The thirst is real and the patience is limited.

Instead I'm going to deluge you with my dumb goings-on.

Like how I bought a Leap Motion for my Vive and sat there shaving the cable until it fit in the headset.

Whittled that ****** like a redneck on a squeaky front porch.

That's what my night's been.

 

[Idon]

- Ryu Hayubusa sounds like someone's thrown a Hail Mary for their wet dream pick or a poison pill intended to deter leakers.

Yes, exactly like Incineroar.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Yes, exactly like Incineroar.

And Joker.

Doesn't change my stance.

 

[Aurane]

I want to be tracer.

Your reaction if this happened?

I'm already tracer so it doesn't matter.

 

[Chrono.]

If Hayabusa makes it in then all the major NES platforming icons would be playable in the same game. Insanity.

Mario, Mega Man, Simon Belmont and Ryu Hayabusa. The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (the apocalypse being all the broken controllers they probably caused back in the day.)

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I may sound like a broken record since this isn't exactly the first time I'm saying this, but I really, truly do not like discussing rumors and leaks anymore.

For starters, there's not much I personally can add to the discussion of leaks. Not that I believe, anyway. I neither feel like I can add much to the topic, nor do I really want to partake in it in the first place at this point. Several leaks in the past led to a lot of **** and rage brewing between tons of people in the fanbase, and the same thing has occurred with much more recent "leaks" that Ultimate has seen. The Grinch leak in particular was freaking toxic, and even after it turned out to be a hoax in the end, the arguing between the apparently divided groups of believers and skeptics didn't exactly calm down. The sheer abundance of fake leaks that came up over the course of the year hasn't helped in forming my opinion on them, either. Not at all.

In short, I'm just really, thoroughly exhausted of seeing leaks, for several different reasons. So, I might as well finally make a promise like to this to myself: from here on out, I'm gonna do what I can to just ignore leaks and rumors altogether, and this may be one of the very last times that I comment on them, at least on this site. Unless we get one that claims Tetra or Spyro's going to be playable, I might make exceptions for those two characters. That's it. I don't really care anymore. But hey, that's just me. My personal ramblings and negative opinions on leaks (legitimate or otherwise) don't make any difference to the grand scheme of things.

 

[Mythra]

It's 2am and Im waiting for the angry cartel dude to return and scream at an empty house so Imma post my wishlist and predictions to entratain me.


What the simpleton wants:

-The Indie pick: Reimu Hakurei
-Retro dude: Ryu Hayabusa
-Patrick rips off his coat: Phoenix Wright
-Literal Wet Dream: Pythra


What Mythrastadamus sees:

-Edrick
-Steve
-Neku Sakuraba
-2Butt

 

[Chrono.]

What Mythrastadamus sees:

-Edrick
-Steve
-Neku Sakuraba
-2Butt

Pls be right.

or change it to Sora that works too

 

[KingofPhantoms]

On an unrelated note, guess who I've finally unlocked tonight...

Time to have some fun...

 

[Coricus]

So I'm making Pit of the Day, not entirely sure how to tie it into the Splatfest when I just

Spoiler: World of Light Spoilers

"Or would you two prefer 'Framly?'" #Splatoon #PitOfTheDay #SmashBrosUltimate #SmashUltimate #SSB #SSBU #Splatoon2 #NintendoSwitch pic.twitter.com/DVLF7IwqbB

— Coricus (@Coricus_SSB) January 4, 2019

Every time I imagine something like this my day just gets a little bit better yes

 

[redfeatherraven]

-2Butt

That ain't right.

I checked, she only has one.

 

[Mythra]

That ain't right.

I checked, she only has one.

Exchangeable robot parts: a hard one for battle and a soft squishy one to appreciate the wonders of life.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Exchangeable robot parts: a hard one for battle and a soft squishy one to appreciate the wonders of life.

Detachable butts both intrigue and frighten me.

 

[praline]

-brave is thought to be a mistranslation of hero from Japanese:

-she’s in.
I want to be tracer.

Your reaction if this happened?

I delete Smash off my Switch immediately afterwards

 

[Idon]

I may sound like a broken record since this isn't exactly the first time I'm saying this, but I really, truly do not like discussing rumors and leaks anymore.

For starters, there's not much I personally can add to the discussion of leaks. Not that I believe, anyway. I neither feel like I can add much to the topic, nor do I really want to partake in it in the first place at this point. Several leaks in the past led to a lot of **** and rage brewing between tons of people in the fanbase, and the same thing has occurred with much more recent "leaks" that Ultimate has seen. The Grinch leak in particular was freaking toxic, and even after it turned out to be a hoax in the end, the arguing between the apparently divided groups of believers and skeptics didn't exactly calm down. The sheer abundance of fake leaks that came up over the course of the year hasn't helped in forming my opinion on them, either. Not at all.

In short, I'm just really, thoroughly exhausted of seeing leaks, for several different reasons. So, I might as well finally make a promise like to this to myself: from here on out, I'm gonna do what I can to just ignore leaks and rumors altogether, and this may be one of the very last times that I comment on them, at least on this site. Unless we get one that claims Tetra or Spyro's going to be playable, I might make exceptions for those two characters. That's it. I don't really care anymore. But hey, that's just me. My personal ramblings and negative opinions on leaks (legitimate or otherwise) don't make any difference to the grand scheme of things.

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of leaks either. I'd much rather rave on and on about the characters I actually like then believe are realistically viable from Nintendo and Sakurai's specific point of view and/or what leak from the literal hundreds will turn out to be the winner.

Buuuuuuuut, I am bored and I've got not much better to do.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'm going to be 50/50 on Hayabusa, Steve and Doomguy. They all have the potential to be cool and I do see Sakurai adding them. On the other hand, we've had enough of good lists with fakes added in for whatever reason

 

[Deleted member]

I'm going to be 50/50 on Hayabusa, Steve and Doomguy. They all have the potential to be cool and I do see Sakurai adding them. On the other hand, we've had enough of good lists with fakes added in for whatever reason

Everyone is leakbait

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Everyone is leakbait

Incineroar being considered leakbait honestly makes me laugh my ass off, even to this day

 

[Deleted member]

Incineroar being considered leakbait honestly makes me laugh my *** off, even to this day

It wasn't just him, plenty of people in the Square thread thought Erdrick was one as well. Expect it to change to "Steve is leakbait" once Erdrick is revealed.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It wasn't just him, plenty of people in the Square thread thought Erdrick was one as well. Expect it to change to "Steve is leakbait" once Erdrick is revealed.

Tbf Verge claimed an SE rep would be the first dlc character shown which didn't happen so I can at least understand that

 

[redfeatherraven]

Tbf Verge claimed an SE rep would be the first dlc character shown which didn't happen so I can at least understand that

If his info was good, Erdrick may just have been the furthest along in development.

Joker wasn't in a playable state by the time of the Game Awards - hence the animated teaser - but he may have been revealed first to throw Vergeben faithful off the trail. For Erd, we may get gameplay footage instead.

That's a lot of devil's advocating and straw grasping for a cause I ain't much for, but I guess it'd at least explain some things.