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@ShinyLegendary Also, with learning languages...I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but learning languages that are a part of the same family tree first can help progress faster and maybe even help understand languages a little easier. An example is that Spanish and Italian are part of the Romantic family tree, so learning those languages before Asian, symbolic languages like Japanese might help you progress faster and easier in your learning. So, make sure you seriously consider the order in which you are learning languages. Just trying to help out and stuff. :)
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I want to learn Spanish ( I already know a lot of Spanish ), French, Korean, Japanese, Italian, Chinese and German.

Can you sort the order in which I should learn them please?

Thank you for the advice. :)
 

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I just realised my high school art teachers were absulote crap
Yes, that's why they were high school art teachers. #ShotsFired

So with that said, hey vaanrose vaanrose and any other artists here, know of any good methods or bools or something that can get someone to get the foundations of their skills rebuit in anyway.
Specifically what are your goals?
 

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I want to learn Spanish ( I already know a lot of Spanish ), French, Korean, Japanese, Italian, Chinese and German.

Can you sort the order in which I should learn them please?

Thank you for the advice. :)
Spanish, Italian, French, the asian languages, and then German would be my pick.

Edit: Actually, no. German before asian languages.
 
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All right.
I want to learn Spanish ( I already know a lot of Spanish ), French, Korean, Japanese, Italian, Chinese and German.

Can you sort the order in which I should learn them please?

Thank you for the advice. :)
French and Italian are already close to Spanish due to being Romantic languages.
 

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Every character can have a unique moveset, but why have Waluigi in the first place? :confused:

He isn't relevant to Mario and the sports attacks you gave him (Tennis ball, fake item box, arguably other aspects too such as the Piranha Plant) could just be given to Daisy.

Waluigi on his own doesn't have enough merit to warrant that unique moveset, in my opinion. He's a spinoff-exclusive character that has no important roles to himself.
Call him unimportant, but Waluigi is popular enough to easily eclipse 85% of the current Smash cast. And those moves can't be easily given to Daisy. For one reason: they're specifically built around the theme of trickery and unsportsmanlike conduct in this moveset, which doesn't fit Daisy at all.
 

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I could NEVER learn a second language. I don't know how people do it, I'm constantly forgetting words in the one language I know, lol.
 

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All right.
I want to learn Spanish ( I already know a lot of Spanish ), French, Korean, Japanese, Italian, Chinese and German.

Can you sort the order in which I should learn them please?

Thank you for the advice. :)
German is easy as hell, but Spanish will get you further.

Japanese is easier than Chinese, imo, but that's before you start getting into Kanji. Man, **** Kanji, lol. I've got like a fourth or fifth grade understanding of Japanese but once we got to Kanji I quit.
 

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I've actually been planning to start learning Japanese soon.

Going straight in for Expert Mode.
 

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Call him unimportant, but Waluigi is popular enough to easily eclipse 85% of the current Smash cast. And those moves can't be easily given to Daisy. For one reason: they're specifically built around the theme of trickery and unsportsmanlike conduct in this moveset, which doesn't fit Daisy at all.
Any Mario character is going to eclipse 85% of the cast. It doesn't mean they should be in, especially when a Toad and Paper Mario are still absent. Plus, I don't think any character has gotten in Smash solely through their popularity.

Also, Daisy could have variations of those moves, I didn't mean to imply she'd have the exact moves. She could use fake item boxes (or just item boxes/dice in general), she could use a tennis ball, and she could use a Piranha Plant. It wouldn't be in an unsportsmanlike conduct, but she could still use them and it'd still be in character. I think every spinoff Waluigi has been in, Daisy has been in as well.
 

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A little late but, despite being a huge fan and wanted him, Waluigi isn't going to be in it, not even DLC.

His fate was shown at E3 and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
 

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Well, I suppose mute would be more accurate.

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I am going to watch the Pokemon Anime first episode in French as a good brain candy.
I will tell you my reactions otherwise.
 

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A little late but, despite being a huge fan and wanted him, Waluigi isn't going to be in it, not even DLC.

His fate was shown at E3 and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
The assumption that an Assist Trophy can't be upgraded to playable for DLC has been and will always be a fan rule. Sakurai has literally never said anything about that sort of thing.
 

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All right.
I want to learn Spanish ( I already know a lot of Spanish ), French, Korean, Japanese, Italian, Chinese and German.

Can you sort the order in which I should learn them please?

Thank you for the advice. :)
Since you want to really learn Spanish first, go with that and become fluent in it since you are already in a solid place with it there.
After that, I would recommend Italian second, since the two languages have similar phonetics and even vocabulary.
Third would be French, since it is a romantic language like Spanish and Italian but is quite different concerning phonics.
German would be 4th. Not an Asian Symbolic language, but still its own beast compared to the core Romantic languages.
Fifth should probably be Korean, and this is because I want to deliberately place Chinese and Japanese together, and Korean is also easier for most native English speakers compared to Chinese and Japanese...at least that what my language "scholar" friends have told me.
Sixth is Chinese. Chinese is all Kanji, which will help you have a backbone with learning Japanese.
Japanese should be last, in my opinion. Japanese is potentially the hardest language for native English speakers, because it takes the Kanji from Chinese, but also changes up the symbols slightly in many regards, and also adds the Hiragana and Katakana alphabets as well. If you study Chinese before Japanese, you'll still have a basic understanding of the Kanji writing system...but Japanese is still very much so its own beast, and is in my humble opinion the hardest major/popular language to learn for English speakers, due to the different vocabulary rules, the thousands of characters you need to learn, and how native English speakers aren't typically used to writing symbols.

Good luck, again haha. I still have a lot to learn about languages, but I am doing my best and it is an interesting subject.
 
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A little late but, despite being a huge fan and wanted him, Waluigi isn't going to be in it, not even DLC.

His fate was shown at E3 and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
You never know dude. With the amount of support he got post-E3, I wouldn't be suprised if this was a one time occurrence.
 
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Since you want to really learn Spanish first, go with that and become fluent in it since you are already in a solid place with it there.
After that, I would recommend Italian second, since the two languages have similar phonetics and even vocabulary.
Third would be French, since it is a romantic language like Spanish and Italian but is quite different concerning phonics.
German would be 4th. Not an Asian Symbolic language, but still its own beast compared to the core Romantic languages.
Fifth should probably be Korean, and this is because I want to deliberately place Chinese and Japanese together, and Korean is also easier for most native English speakers compared to Chinese and Japanese...at least that what my language "scholar" friends have told me.
Sixth is Chinese. Chinese is all Kanji, which will help you have a backbone with learning Japanese.
Japanese should be last, in my opinion. Japanese is potentially the hardest language for native English speakers, because it takes the Kanji from Chinese, but also changes up the symbols slightly in many regards, and also adds the Hiragana and Katakana alphabets as well. If you study Chinese before Japanese, you'll still have a basic understanding of the Kanji writing system...but Japanese is still very much so its own beast, and is in my humble opinion the hardest major/popular language to learn for English speakers, due to the different vocabulary rules, the thousands of characters you need to learn, and how native English speakers aren't typically used to writing symbols.

Good luck, again haha. I still have a lot to learn about languages, but I am doing my best and it is an interesting subject.
I downloaded this app called Duolingo and I have seven courses.
I did the best in French apparently so I might start up with French first.
 

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Waluigi in Smash is the new pineapple on pizza.
Because neither would be that bad?

Except pineapple on pizza's problem is it's hatedom acting offended it exists and Waluigi's problem is a chunk of it's fandom diving into a psychotic victim complex, so not quite the same thing.
 

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I can speak two languages reasonably well (English and Irish), enough to get by in two others (French and German), and some basic Japanese and Spanish. Even then I can't imagine trying to add two more into the mix, unless they were really closely related (like Irish and Scottish Gaelic, for example).

All right.
I want to learn Spanish ( I already know a lot of Spanish ), French, Korean, Japanese, Italian, Chinese and German.

Can you sort the order in which I should learn them please?

Thank you for the advice. :)
If you already know some Spanish, then French and Italian will probably be next easiest to pick up, since they are closely related. German is related to English, so that can also be picked up relatively easily (as languages go).

That leaves Chinese, Japanese, and Korean, of which all three are unrelated to each other and all follow very different grammatical rules, though the latter two both borrow words and a writing system from Chinese (less so Korean, in the case of the writing system, though Hanja is still found in certain contexts so it will be useful to know). Japanese is probably the easier to learn, though, since it doesn't have any of the tonal stuff Chinese has, where pronouncing a vowel incorrectly could turn a compliment into a grave insult. The shared writing system probably doesn't reduce the load that much, since you will still have to relearn the pronunciations for each language, plus additional characters and/or writing systems (but at least you don't have to relearn how to write the actual symbols, and the meanings are usually similar too in most cases). I'm not sure about Korean, since I don't have much experience with it, but from what I've heard it's also generally seen as easier than Chinese.

I'd probably go Spanish > French/Italian > German > Japanese > Korean > Chinese, if I was doing this (which I wouldn't, but I'm not going to tell you what to do with your life).
 
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Any Mario character is going to eclipse 85% of the cast. It doesn't mean they should be in, especially when a Toad and Paper Mario are still absent. Plus, I don't think any character has gotten in Smash solely through their popularity.

Also, Daisy could have variations of those moves, I didn't mean to imply she'd have the exact moves. She could use fake item boxes (or just item boxes/dice in general), she could use a tennis ball, and she could use a Piranha Plant. It wouldn't be in an unsportsmanlike conduct, but she could still use them and it'd still be in character. I think every spinoff Waluigi has been in, Daisy has been in as well.
Hot take: Paper Mario should stay far away from Smash. I don't want another Mario when we already have two.

Ridley literally got in due to his western popularity. Sakurai said so.

My point was that with Daisy, they'd be random hodgepodge moves smacked together, while with Waluigi they'd have a cohesive theme. That's the difference between a good and a bad moveset: cohesion.
 

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I feel like characters wouldn't be made into an Assist if they didn't have something blocking their inclusion.

Like, as an Assist, they need a battle ready model and animations, they're obviously putting work in for that character to be an Assist. And I think that if that character stood an actual consideration for a playable status, then they wouldn't have been made into an Assist and their fate would be decided later.

But IDK that's just my personal thoughts
 

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I feel like characters wouldn't be made into an Assist if they didn't have something blocking their inclusion.

Like, as an Assist, they need a battle ready model and animations, they're obviously putting work in for that character to be an Assist. And I think that if that character stood an actual consideration for a playable status, then they wouldn't have been made into an Assist and their fate would be decided later.

But IDK that's just my personal thoughts
Little Mac though.
 

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The assumption that an Assist Trophy can't be upgraded to playable for DLC has been and will always be a fan rule. Sakurai has literally never said anything about that sort of thing.
Still don't have faith.

I have seen something of that sort before: Cartoon Network: Punch Time Explosion. In the 3DS version of the game, 4 characters (Johnny Bravo, Him, Aku, and Kevin E. Levin) were Assists Cubes (totally not Assist Trophies guiz). In the updated console version "XL" said characters were fully playable.

But pretty sure Sakurai hasn't attempted to check this game out or even heard of it to know such thing though.
 
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Spanish, French, Italian, German, Korean, Chinese and Japanese.
Also I saw an artist post these on Tumblr so now all of you get to be subjected to this because sharing.
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Hot take: Paper Mario should stay far away from Smash. I don't want another Mario when we already have two.

Ridley literally got in due to his western popularity. Sakurai said so.

My point was that with Daisy, they'd be random hodgepodge moves smacked together, while with Waluigi they'd have a cohesive theme. That's the difference between a good and a bad moveset: cohesion.
We have three Links, and Paper Mario has his own series of games (meaning a lot of potential), so honestly Paper Mario would be one of the best additions to the roster. And I say that as someone who vastly prefers Toad, it's either CT/Toad/Paper Mario for a new Mario character at this point, the rest aren't worth the resources.

Ridley had more to offer than just "popular char". He's the main villain of Metroid, which has been a series included since the original Smash Bros. Waluigi, on the other hand, doesn't have a status anywhere near Ridley at all as he's just shows up to play Golf and Tennis. Ridley definitely didn't get in just because "popularity!".

With Daisy, I don't see why you think they'd be smacked together. She's just as capable of using the moves as Waluigi and having her Up-Smash be the Dice or her Side-Smashes be a baseball bat wouldn't be out of place. It doesn't need a cohesive theme for it to work with Daisy. There's plenty of characters who have one-off moves. Peach for example uses the golf racket but IIRC nothing else from the spinoffs is in her moveset at all.
 
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