Social NintenZone Social 6.0 - L'Arachel Edition, Apparently?

[KingofPhantoms]

Question to everyone: Do you think it's valid to pass on Smash Ultimate because one character is/isn't in?

Depends on how much your positive feelings outweigh your negative feelings, or vice versa. Whether it's a valid reason to skip the game or not is subjective, imo. I'll elaborate a bit more below:

I had a really bad encounter with a Mimikyu fan that made me hate it... a lot.
I wouldn't buy the game if it got in.

What I would do personally is rethink my stance on the character itself and put a situation like that in the past. It's not like the character is at fault for something one fan did.

Granted, I am aware that you never cared for Mimikyu to begin with, that's simply your opinion, which is perfectly fine, that goes without saying. But I would advise against harboring a strong, legitimate hatred against a fictional character just because of a few people, or, in this case, one person. Keeping it short, it's not healthy. And honestly, keeping it might just cause further problems down the line, it's definitely not benefiting you in any way.

If I let people affect my opinion on things that much, I would be staying the hell away from a lot of things that I actually really like. I would suggest rethinking your stance on all of this with a clear head before making a decision on whether or not to buy a video game over it. You're free to not like Mimikyu, but whether you'll refuse to buy the game over a character you don't like is your decision alone, and as others have mentioned, it's your money, so you get to decide what to do with it. No one gets to force you to buy a game you simply don't want, even if your reason for not wanting it in the first place is questionable.

 

[Metal Shop X]

There are no characters I hate to see in Smash tbh, they are some I be more skeptical at their inclusion, but in the end, I still be more happy for the peoples who supported them, at worse, I can choice to not play this character and be happy with what I already got. (I am still in the right timeline where Ridley is playable and Snake is back, right?)

Plus, if they have a fun moveset, hey, it's more variety for me.

 

[Deleted member]

Depends on how much your positive feelings outweigh your negative feelings, or vice versa. Whether it's a valid reason to skip the game or not is subjective, imo. I'll elaborate a bit more below:



What I would do personally is rethink my stance on the character itself and put a situation like that in the past. It's not like the character is at fault for something one fan did.

Granted, I am aware that you never cared for Mimikyu to begin with, that's simply your opinion, which is perfectly fine, that goes without saying. But I would advise against harboring a strong, legitimate hatred against a fictional character just because of a few people, or, in this case, one person. Keeping it short, it's not healthy. And honestly, keeping it might just cause further problems down the line, it's definitely not benefiting you in any way.

If I let people affect my opinion on things that much, I would be staying the hell away from a lot of things that I actually really like. I would suggest rethinking your stance on all of this with a clear head before making a decision on whether or not to buy a video game over it. You're free to not like Mimikyu, but whether you'll refuse to buy the game over a character you don't like is your decision alone, and as others have mentioned, it's your money, so you get to decide what to do with it. No one gets to force you to buy a game you simply don't want, even if your reason for not wanting it in the first place is questionable.

That's a good analysis.
I'm gonna try and think about it tomorrow, since I'm tired right now and therefore might not be able to think clearly. I appriciate your advice, so thank you.

 

[redfeatherraven]

"Oh, so apparently Morrowind is super venerated by some Elder Scrolls fans? Well that sounds a bit like genwunning but I might give it a shot. With my trackpad laptop don't expect me to pay more than the price of a pizza for it, though."

*Steam Summer Sale arrives, game 50% off*

"Ah thank you, that works."

I really need to get a desktop sometime, LOL. But if I'm only buying one gen 6 game every year or two at purge-sale prices it's at least not hilariously urgent. When TES 6 comes out though. . .well since I have no faith a Ratchet and Clank game that actually answers my plea of "GET ON WITH IT" will be out by then at this point, I'll probably need something to run it on and it won't be a Playstation system.

Resident genwunner here.

No but seriously. I don't put Morrowind on a pedestal, but I can speculate why people enjoy it despite the horrific amounts of jank it had. Might give you some idea of what to expect.

The biggest draw Morrowind still has is the setting. Vvardenfell is just starkly unlike anything else we've seen so far out of Elder Scrolls, or most anything else we had at the time. It's kind of alien and weird and just slightly uncanny, but still kind of grounded at the same time. It makes logical sense in context, but it's just off somehow and it's awesome for that. Don't know how to properly describe it, but you just look at Telvanni mushroom towers and bull netches and stilt striders and nod along the whole way.

Lore's pretty alright too. The interplay between the Aedra and Tribunal worship (the Nines are there but not especially prevalent) gives undertones to stories across the whole island and the way every faction is handled is just...I haven't really seen much like it since. We ain't talking masterwork, but it's about par with Skyrim's content, if not its delivery.

After that...eh. It's moddable in the extreme, and you'll want to mod it extremely. And the spell customization hands you a pile of game-breaking toys that Bethesda never had the balls to do again (RIP Levitate).

Morrowind is kinda like the Elder Scrolls' Melee. It improved on its predecessor and was uniquely awesome in a way that some people really, really, really liked - but then Bethesda went a different direction with the next release and they never quite got all the way back around to what Morrowind brought to the table. But the rest is nostalgia goggles. The game's reeeeeeally showing its age now.

If you like the setting, the lore, the story, then you might like it. If you like how sandbox-y it can be, you might like it. If those don't hook you, Skyrim did the rest better. Just my two.

I would consider picking up Oblivion too, but judging by what footage I've seen everyone in that game has a potato face that honestly makes me kind of uncomfortable looking at it LOL.

Two more two.

Firstly if Oblivion's faces weird you out you're going to want to hunt down some model improvement mods for Morrowind before you fire it up. Because Oblivion had potatoes, that's utterly true. But Morrowind had beef jerky. Look up Better Bodies, assuming that's still a thing. Will fix that right up.

Secondly, Oblivion...kind of feels like a watered down halfway point between Morrowind and Skyrim now, at least to me. Way I see it Skyrim had the best gameplay, Morrowind had the best setting, and Oblivion had...well...it got Patrick Stewart in the tutorial? I guess you could try it out to experience what that halfway point looks like, but I don't know if it's worth the cash, time or trouble. Up to you. There should be some kind of body replacer like BB available for it too, I just don't remember using one myself.

 

[Natz~]

Resident genwunner here.

No but seriously. I don't put Morrowind on a pedestal, but I can speculate why people enjoy it despite the horrific amounts of jank it had. Might give you some idea of what to expect.

The biggest draw Morrowind still has is the setting. Vvardenfell is just starkly unlike anything else we've seen so far out of Elder Scrolls, or most anything. It's kind of alien and weird and just slightly uncanny, and it's awesome for that. The interplay between the Aedra and Tribunal worship (the Nines are there but not especially prevalent) gives undertones to stories across the whole island and the way every faction is handled is just...I haven't really seen much like it since.

After that...eh. It's moddable in the extreme, and you'll want to mod it extremely. And the spell customization hands you a pile of game-breaking toys that Bethesda never had the balls to do again (RIP Levitate).

Morrowind is kinda like the Elder Scrolls' Melee. It improved on its predecessor and was uniquely awesome in a way that some people really, really, really liked - but then Bethesda went a different direction with the next release and they never quite got all the way back around to what Morrowind brought to the table. But the rest is nostalgia goggles. The game's reeeeeeally showing its age now.

If you like the setting, the lore, the story, then you might like it. If you like how sandbox-y it can be, you might like it. If those don't hook you, Skyrim did the rest better. Just my two.


Two more two.

Firstly if Oblivion's faces weird you out you're going to want to hunt down some model improvement mods for Morrowind before you fire it up. Because Oblivion had potatoes, that's utterly true. But Morrowind had beef jerky. Look up Better Bodies, assuming that's still a thing. Will fix that right up.

Secondly, Oblivion...kind of feels like a watered down halfway point between Morrowind and Skyrim now, at least to me. Way I see it Skyrim had the best gameplay, Morrowind had the best setting, and Oblivion had...well...it got Patrick Stewart in the tutorial? I guess you could try it out to experience what that halfway point looks like, but I don't know if it's worth the cash, time or trouble. Up to you. There should be some kind of body replacer like BB available for it too, I just don't remember using one myself.

morrowind is modable to hell? huh news to me

though i'm not really that much of a mod user so thats why

but hey thats neat though hoenstly i like oblivion more than morrrowind

do agree skyrims the best to play and my personal favorite, and morrowind is great story wise, do see reason for oblivion still

 

[Dr. Jojo Phantasma]

if layton is announced, I would kill to buy the game

If he isnt, I will still buy it because My baby Villager is still in no matter how much I dont care for the purple dragon

OMG Yusukeeeeeeee.

 

[redfeatherraven]

morrowind is modable to hell? huh news to me

though i'm not really that much of a mod user so thats why

but hey thats neat though hoenstly i like oblivion more than morrrowind

do agree skyrims the best to play and my personal favorite, and morrowind is great story wise, do see reason for oblivion still

Oh geez. So, so moddable. And so simple about it I actually began to make some, though I never finished.

But yeah. If you don't mod the games, gameplay-wise it's linear improvement from ES III to IV to V. Vanilla-wise, Oblivion played worlds better than Morrowind. It's just hard to recommend it for gameplay reasons when Skyrim's on the table, since Skyrim did almost everything better than either of the others in that department.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

wait, People are serious about EU banning memes?

i think this was a joke, a really stupid joke

 

[Natz~]

Oh geez. So, so moddable. And so simple about it I actually began to make some, though I never finished.

But yeah. If you don't mod the games, gameplay-wise it's linear improvement from ES III to IV to V. Vanilla-wise, Oblivion played worlds better than Morrowind. It's just hard to recommend it for gameplay reasons when Skyrim's on the table, since Skyrim did almost everything better than either of the others in that department.

oh ya completely, sorry katts just a vanilla fan still like my mods but i don't like, abuse or search crazy for them

 

[ChikoLad]

At the end of the day, the question asked was "is it valid to not buy the game because of X reason?".

Frankly though, you don't need a reason to not buy a game. Again, it's your money. You only need a reason to justify why you SHOULD spend money on something, and pretty much any reason is valid there because, once again, it's your money.

Like I've seen people literally say they bought Xenoblade Chronicles 2 "for the waifus". Not for the gameplay or the story or the characterization or the world. Just no other reason other than they thought Pyra was sexy or whatever...and as weird as that is, it's still a valid reason to buy the game.

We can debate about such and such a reason being petty all we want but it doesn't really matter because even if someone doesn't buy the game, they will spend the money that would have been spent on the game on something they know they will enjoy and don't have to be talked into buying. They're not missing out on enjoyment because they will simply get enjoyment from whatever else they buy instead.

Personally I do think it's kinda silly to not want Smash over a character being in the game. But that doesn't really matter because I'm not paying for your copy.

There aren't any characters I would be upset over being in the game. Closest thing is that I would be disappointed if Rex & Pyra/Mythra were playable, and Rex had no other Blades. Because IMO they're the blandest characters in the game, and the Aegis Sword is a very similar weapon to the Monado so it would be difficult to differentiate Rex's normals from Shulk, but there are too many differences between the two for Rex to be an Echo Fighter of Shulk. That's why I would prefer either Rex have a Blade switching mechanic with at least one other Blade, or just give me any of the other playable Drivers. Nia is obviously my preference, but any of the others would be better reps than Rex & Pyra, and would have more unique normals to boot.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

OMG Yusukeeeeeeee.

Yep, Yusuke, The #1 best boy os P5

 

[vaanrose]

I bought the Bayonetta and Corrin dlc despite hating both those characters passionately, ain't nobody gonna stop me from buying the next Smash.

 

[redfeatherraven]

oh ya completely, sorry katts just a vanilla fan still like my mods but i don't like, abuse or search crazy for them

Yeeeeeeah.

I was kind of a modding fiend.

I did some things.

I did a lot of probably questionable things.

 

[Natz~]

Yeeeeeeah.

I was kind of a modding fiend.

I did some things.

I did a lot of probably questionable things.

know it lol

my sis is a modding fiend, to the point she can only enjoy some games if she mods them

and i don't doubt that either, we all done questionable things with our games dude, its a human thing :V

 

[Deleted member]

Sorry for asking this question, but does anyone play TTR?
If so... friend me! I will PM you.

 

[redfeatherraven]

know it lol

my sis is a modding fiend, to the point she can only enjoy some games if she mods them

and i don't doubt that either, we all done questionable things with our games dude, its a human thing :V

Feel that. I kind of liked Skyrim vanilla, myself, but I probably couldn't return to Morrowind without mods in tow.

and i don't doubt that either, we all done questionable things with our games dude, its a human thing :V

I've done...more questionable things than most.

Hey, speaking of questionable things:

vaanrose , when'd this come about?

 

[vaanrose]

I want to mod Smash Ultimate far more than I actually want to play it.

 

[Deleted member]

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vaanrose , when'd this come about?

The current mafia game he is playing in.

 

[Natz~]

Feel that. I kind of liked Skyrim vanilla, myself, but I probably couldn't return to Morrowind without mods in tow.


I've done...more questionable things than most.

understandable

and ya in all honesty dude, we all got skeletons in the closet, ya really aren't alone

Hey, speaking of questionable things:

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vaanrose , when'd this come about?

shinys mario mafia

 

[ChikoLad]

I want to mod Smash Ultimate far more than I actually want to play it.

This tbh lol.

I'd also go even further and say that for almost any game I want or currently enjoy on Switch, I want to emulate it far more than I want to play it on Switch.

It will be a while before we get to that point though.

 

[Androobie]

I’d totally be on the modding hype train, but I’m not talking any chances. I’m scared of getting banned, to be honest.

 

[redfeatherraven]

understandable

and ya in all honesty dude, we all got skeletons in the closet, ya really aren't alone

I know, I know, but there's skeletons in the closet -



- and then there's holy **** how do we shut the door.

 

[Deleted member]

There's not a single character in all of media that I despise more than Daisy but she sure as hell isn't gonna stop me from buying Ultimate.

 

[Natz~]

I know, I know, but there's skeletons in the closet -

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- and then there's holy **** how do we shut the door.

oh quite easily, thats why we use coffins and and graves :V

at least thats what i do when the closet becomes full

 

[Deleted member]

At the end of the day, the question asked was "is it valid to not buy the game because of X reason?".

Frankly though, you don't need a reason to not buy a game. Again, it's your money. You only need a reason to justify why you SHOULD spend money on something, and pretty much any reason is valid there because, once again, it's your money.

Like I've seen people literally say they bought Xenoblade Chronicles 2 "for the waifus". Not for the gameplay or the story or the characterization or the world. Just no other reason other than they thought Pyra was sexy or whatever...and as weird as that is, it's still a valid reason to buy the game.

We can debate about such and such a reason being petty all we want but it doesn't really matter because even if someone doesn't buy the game, they will spend the money that would have been spent on the game on something they know they will enjoy and don't have to be talked into buying. They're not missing out on enjoyment because they will simply get enjoyment from whatever else they buy instead.

Personally I do think it's kinda silly to not want Smash over a character being in the game. But that doesn't really matter because I'm not paying for your copy.

There aren't any characters I would be upset over being in the game. Closest thing is that I would be disappointed if Rex & Pyra/Mythra were playable, and Rex had no other Blades. Because IMO they're the blandest characters in the game, and the Aegis Sword is a very similar weapon to the Monado so it would be difficult to differentiate Rex's normals from Shulk, but there are too many differences between the two for Rex to be an Echo Fighter of Shulk. That's why I would prefer either Rex have a Blade switching mechanic with at least one other Blade, or just give me any of the other playable Drivers. Nia is obviously my preference, but any of the others would be better reps than Rex & Pyra, and would have more unique normals to boot.

The thing is that's actually looking at the situation at face value and not the actual problem at hand. In reality what he was trying to figure out was if his feelings deserved criticism or not, because he felt unsure about it hence why he asked. It's better to handle his actual problem, which is this bit of immaturity because it'll make him a better person overall and less likely to be controlled in these situations by others emotions.

I think everyone knows it's up to the individual on how they spend their money, but at the same time, this was more than just that.

 

[redfeatherraven]

oh quite easily, thats why we use coffins and and graves :V

at least thats what i do when the closet becomes full

I ain't got enough yard for that though.

 

[praline]

Gods the more I watch Brooklyn Nine-Nine the more I love this show.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Goodbye Nintenzone.

It's been fun, but I can't keep doing this misunderstood ****.

I'm tired of getting negative posts thrown my way for even just joking.

Sometimes I understand how people misunderstand me. Others? Nope.

It's been fun. You guys were always (mostly) great.

Much love,

Alex/Fisher/Roger Smith/Good God All Those Other Damn Names I had.

 

[Deleted member]

Goodbye Nintenzone.

It's been fun, but I can't keep doing this misunderstood ****.

I'm tired of getting negative posts thrown my way for even just joking.

Sometimes I understand how people misunderstand me. Others? Nope.

It's been fun. You guys were always (mostly) great.

Much love,

Alex/Fisher/Roger Smith/Good God All Those Other Damn Names I had.

So you are leaving NintenZone?
Understandable. Do not let the jerks discourage you though!
I will miss you!
I hope your future turns out to be good!

 

[Chrono.]

@ XC2 players:

Is PoppiBuster even worth getting?

 

[Natz~]

I ain't got enough yard for that though.

yay~ i'm liked ^-^

ah damn thats a problem, maybe ya could float them down a creek or use a prak to burry them, or maybe an empty plot of land in nowere that ya can remember

Goodbye Nintenzone.

It's been fun, but I can't keep doing this misunderstood ****.

I'm tired of getting negative posts thrown my way for even just joking.

Sometimes I understand how people misunderstand me. Others? Nope.

It's been fun. You guys were always (mostly) great.

Much love,

Alex/Fisher/Roger Smith/Good God All Those Other Damn Names I had.

muh? um...no clue what happened but alright...see ya roger

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

There's not a single character in all of media that I despise more than Daisy but she sure as hell isn't gonna stop me from buying Ultimate.

"HI IM DAISY!!!!"

 

[One winged Devil]

There's not a single character in all of media that I despise more than Daisy but she sure as hell isn't gonna stop me from buying Ultimate.

Explain why and I might let you live long enough to have children.

 

[praline]

Goodbye Nintenzone.

It's been fun, but I can't keep doing this misunderstood ****.

I'm tired of getting negative posts thrown my way for even just joking.

Sometimes I understand how people misunderstand me. Others? Nope.

It's been fun. You guys were always (mostly) great.

Much love,

Alex/Fisher/Roger Smith/Good God All Those Other Damn Names I had.

Awww... well cya I guess.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Explain why and I might let you live long enough to have children.

Assuming Shoe can get laid in the first place

 

[ChikoLad]

@ XC2 players:

Is PoppiBuster even worth getting?

Poppibuster goes really well on Rex if you want to make him a tank.

Their Affinity Chart has one of the worst nodes in the game though.

Spoiler

View 70 Heart-to-Hearts in total or something like that.

Problem is, there isn't even that many in the base game. But it does count duplicate viewings on a NG+ run, so it's required to play NG+ to get this node filled, unless they add more Heart-to-Hearts in future updates.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Damn, I need a new switch name

 

[Chrono.]

Poppibuster goes really well on Rex if you want to make him a tank.

Their Affinity Chart has one of the worst nodes in the game though.

Spoiler

View 70 Heart-to-Hearts in total or something like that.

Problem is, there isn't even that many in the base game. But it does count duplicate viewings on a NG+ run, so it's required to play NG+ to get this node filled, unless they add more Heart-to-Hearts in future updates.

That blows.

I probably won't bother for now and focus on getting Zeke and Catalyst again before going on Challenge Mode.

 

[ChikoLad]

"The train headed for Station Square will be departing soon."

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[redfeatherraven]

ah damn thats a problem, maybe ya could float them down a creek or use a prak to burry them, or maybe an empty plot of land in nowere that ya can remember

I'm basically as close to city slicker as you can get, we ain't got nothing till the riverfront.