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[Blargg888]

...But at what cost?

Not much, probably just your soul.

 

[Pazzo.]

Everytime you make a new themed clothing in Pocket Camp, Animal Crossing Switch gets delayed one day.

 

[Deleted member]

Or, there is the slippery slope of making fictional content that resembles real world events and conflicts and clashings of ideals, letting players be the ones to make those political decisions in-game, and how the media would jump on this to stir up controversy.

The examples you listed aren't really the kind of "politics" I meant.

Slippery slope of what? Adding positive values to content? And you can't let the players always decide what happens in the story, not every game needs to be Mass Effect. Just like with movies, tv shows, anime, there are messages to be told.

Naruto's story is one big ass political statement on peace and acceptance of people no matter their origins. Now imagine if you just said "nah, slippery slope blahblahblah they are just trying to stir up controversy". Guess what? When the writing made a very clear Nuclear Weapons parallel (tailed beasts with Pein), no one gave a ****.

And even if controversy were started, what's wrong with that? Sometimes you gotta fight battles to improve the world, it's just how it is.

Whether or not to use nuclear weapons is not a political issue. It's an environmental issue.

What? Are you afraid of the concept of politics or something lol? This is absolutely a political issue because it really matters what side of the fence you're on to make judgments based on when to use such weapons.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

SOMEONE FINALLY RELEASED THE THEME OF THE TRUE FINAL BOSS OF ARMS!!!!

Spoiler

 

[Starlight_Lily]

Whether or not to use nuclear weapons is not a political issue. It's an environmental issue.

Yeah, well tell that to Republicans in the USA. And Environmental issues are usually tied to political issues man.

 

[Schnee117]

Whether or not to use nuclear weapons is not a political issue. It's an environmental issue.

I don't think I've seen such a gross display of ignorance in a while.
The act of using Nuclear weapons is extremely political because you are bombing another country. That affects international relations which is an important part of politics.

Incidentally Environmental Issues are political as well. It's the politicians' jobs to enact policies that help to protect the environment so we can actually live on this planet.

 

[allison]

what if creators start trying to say something with their work? this seems really risky...

 

[Schnee117]

what if creators start trying to say something with their work? this seems really risky...

That Thor Ragnarok really stirred up controversy by making comments on Colonialism huh? And can you believe they had Thanos go on about overpopulation and a lack of resources in Infinity War? That's gonna cause so much controversy.

/s

 

[Starlight_Lily]

what if creators start trying to say something with their work? this seems really risky...

Isn't that pretty much every story though? In away even Mario can be read as pro-monarchy, though it does lean heavily into be nice to your citizens, most from Peach's perspective and Bowser's, since his character is one that has man derive loyalty from him caring about the troops, not scaring them into it.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

That Thor Ragnarok really stirred up controversy by making comments on Colonialism huh? And can you believe they had Thanos go on about overpopulation and a lack of resources in Infinity War? That's gonna cause so much controversy.

/s

The fact there is controversy for the movie not having enough gay characters and claiming to be rasist, id say its no longer a joke

 

[Deleted member]

The fact there is controversy for the movie not having enough gay characters and claiming to be rasist, id say its no longer a joke

The issue isn't "not enough gay characters", it's how the gay character is represented. Also, if the dude is racist, dude needs to be called out on it.

 

[Chrono.]

What was the X cliff hanger anyway? Also did Zero have a cliffhanger ending?

X8 ended with Axl getting infected with some sort of virus... thing.

Zero actually did have a proper ending, which led to ZX. Unfortunately, well, ZXA had the mother of all cliffhangers.

Star Force was fine, it ended in a way you could see it as a series finale but one that could also come back. Similar to Battle Network 3.

 

[Schnee117]

The fact there is controversy for the movie not having enough gay characters and claiming to be rasist, id say its no longer a joke

You're gonna have to show me because I've not seen anything about that in regards to Infinity War.
I only know Thor got some well deserved flak for cutting scenes that showed that Valkyrie was Bi.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Did I just ****ing see "Capitalism is flawed and shouldn't go too far" get called "Not political"? Y'know, the main villain in Robocop is a corporation guy in a fancy suit who wants his product on the market, exploits his position to escape the law and says "YOU ARE A PRODUCT!" to Robocop. If that's not enough then there's the random 'commercials' with war messages in kid games and ****. Oh, and the fact Murphy could have been allowed to recover from his injuries and go home to his loving family if the big corporations didn't deem that as unprofitable

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

You're gonna have to show me because I've not seen anything about that in regards to Infinity War.
I only know Thor got some well deserved flak for cutting scenes that showed that Valkyrie was Bi.

there is one site( probably not creditable considering it legit called "The Black Persona Guide to Avengers Infinity War") called The Root where the first sintence about the premise is "Avengers: Infinity War is a documentary about the Trump administration and how white people want to run the world"
and for the "Not enough LGBT characters" (also dont know if this creditable, sorry)
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Oh ****.
Swery65 refollowed me on twitter

 

[praline]

Celine Dion made a song for Deadpool 2. This is incredible.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Celine Dion made a song for Deadpool 2. This is incredible.

If it's for Deadpool, I'm betting it's a parody of that one Titanic song

 

[Cutie Gwen]

there is one site( probably not creditable considering it legit called "The Black Persona Guide to Avengers Infinity War") called The Root where the first sintence about the premise is "Avengers: Infinity War is a documentary about the Trump administration and how white people want to run the world"
and for the "Not enough LGBT characters" (also dont know if this creditable, sorry)
---
Oh ****.
Swery65 refallowed me on twitter

Well there aren't really LGBT characters in the MCU off the top of my head and Marvel went out of their way to cut scenes from Thor Ragnarok that heavily implied Valkyrie's bisexuality and then they claimed a bi character in Black Panther who has a girlfriend in the comics is straight. So tell me how those complaints aren't justified

 

[ChikoLad]

Slippery slope of what? Adding positive values to content? And you can't let the players always decide what happens in the story, not every game needs to be Mass Effect. Just like with movies, tv shows, anime, there are messages to be told.

Naruto's story is one big *** political statement on peace and acceptance of people no matter their origins. Now imagine if you just said "nah, slippery slope blahblahblah they are just trying to stir up controversy". Guess what? When the writing made a very clear Nuclear Weapons parallel (tailed beasts with Pein), no one gave a ****.

And even if controversy were started, what's wrong with that? Sometimes you gotta fight battles to improve the world, it's just how it is.



What? Are you afraid of the concept of politics or something lol? This is absolutely a political issue because it really matters what side of the fence you're on to make judgments based on when to use such weapons.

Nice to see people see completely different posts than what I actually type.

I'm not afraid of the concept of politics. For the third time, I shall say - if it were up to just me, there would be way more video games that are actually about politics. There would be games where you, playing as some sort of national leader, make decisions based on various factors that effect the path your nation takes, the welfare of your people, whether or not you end up at war, and so on and so forth. And in order to keep players who like more traditional game mechanics like FPS gameplay or whatever (or even just standard RTS gameplay), you play as a soldier in the battles and carry out directives that you assigned when playing as the leader when it came to actual battle. This is what I consider a game about politics, a game where both the game mechanics and the storyline are deeply immersed in politics. Having a game with a single level where a nuke goes off or something and you see the devastation of it isn't a game about politics, especially since nukes are more an environmental thing. Call of Duty is first and foremost an action thriller.

Yesterday, people asked why games encourage messages of peace and make you feel bad about violence despite the fact all you do in those games is kill people in extremely flashy and violent ways. I simply answered that question - violence sells, and most devs don't want to touch politics on a deeper level with a ten foot pole, be it out of fear, or disinterest in the subject, especially in today's society where people are more sensitive. Regardless of whether or not you like this answer, the truth remains that big time publishers care about money first and foremost, and dealing with sensitive and current topics that can easily offend people is a high risk maneuveur. And when it comes to younger, newer indie devs, while there's less risk in it for them, they probably want to build up some pedigree and experience before they tackle something like that.

Also citing Naruto, of all things, as an example of politics in fiction, isn't a good way to make your case. Naruto is an action show made for Japanese kids and young teenagers. It's political elements are miniscule. If you must reference an anime, something like Code Geass would be a much more apt example, since the narrative and character motivations are all deeply entrenched in politics. It is literally a show about politics.

Also, the fact that you people are getting so riled up about me simply stating the reasons why we don't see much fiction involving politics, especially video games, is really just proving my point. I don't even agree with these reasons. I think devs shouldn't shy away from games deeply entrenched in politics. But they do have their reasons, and that's why we don't see it that often. People are sensitive. If me simply pointing that out is making you angry, you're the reason we won't be seeing many games actually give you the genuine choice between killing enemies and not killing them and weighing the moral integrity, strategic value and tactical value in committing that act, and other such decisions a person with the power to influence the political development of a nation might have to make.

I don't think I've seen such a gross display of ignorance in a while.
The act of using Nuclear weapons is extremely political because you are bombing another country. That affects international relations which is an important part of politics.

Incidentally Environmental Issues are political as well. It's the politicians' jobs to enact policies that help to protect the environment so we can actually live on this planet.

If by "effects international relations" you mean "completely wipes out the people of a nation so there is no nation to relate to", then sure.

That's why I don't consider it a political issue. That's selling it short. If the decision on whether or not to nuke a country was entrenched in politics, we'd see a lot more of them being developed and being launched. Thankfully, we have not reached that point where nukes are a political issue.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Nice to see people see completely different posts than what I actually type.

I'm not afraid of the concept of politics. For the third time, I shall say - if it were up to just me, there would be way more video games that are actually about politics. There would be games where you, playing as some sort of national leader, make decisions based on various factors that effect the path your nation takes, the welfare of your people, whether or not you end up at war, and so on and so forth. And in order to keep players who like more traditional game mechanics like FPS gameplay or whatever (or even just standard RTS gameplay), you play as a soldier in the battles and carry out directives that you assigned when playing as the leader when it came to actual battle. This is what I consider a game about politics, a game where both the game mechanics and the storyline are deeply immersed in politics. Having a game with a single level where a nuke goes off or something and you see the devastation of it isn't a game about politics, especially since nukes are more an environmental thing. Call of Duty is first and foremost an action thriller.

Yesterday, people asked why games encourage messages of peace and make you feel bad about violence despite the fact all you do in those games is kill people in extremely flashy and violent ways. I simply answered that question - violence sells, and most devs don't want to touch politics on a deeper level with a ten foot pole, be it out of fear, or disinterest in the subject, especially in today's society where people are more sensitive. Regardless of whether or not you like this answer, the truth remains that big time publishers care about money first and foremost, and dealing with sensitive and current topics that can easily offend people is a high risk maneuveur. And when it comes to younger, newer indie devs, while there's less risk in it for them, they probably want to build up some pedigree and experience before they tackle something like that.

Also citing Naruto, of all things, as an example of politics in fiction, isn't a good way to make your case. Naruto is an action show made for Japanese kids and young teenagers. It's political elements are miniscule. If you must reference an anime, something like Code Geass would be a much more apt example, since the narrative and character motivations are all deeply entrenched in politics. It is literally a show about politics.

Also, the fact that you people are getting so riled up about me simply stating the reasons why we don't see much fiction involving politics, especially video games, is really just proving my point. I don't even agree with these reasons. I think devs shouldn't shy away from games deeply entrenched in politics. But they do have their reasons, and that's why we don't see it that often. People are sensitive. If me simply pointing that out is making you angry, you're the reason we won't be seeing many games actually give you the genuine choice between killing enemies and not killing them and weighing the moral integrity, strategic value and tactical value in committing that act, and other such decisions a person with the power to influence the political development of a nation might have to make.



If by "effects international relations" you mean "completely wipes out the people of a nation so there is no nation to relate to", then sure.

That's why I don't consider it a political issue. That's selling it short. If the decision on whether or not to nuke a country was entrenched in politics, we'd see a lot more of them being developed and being launched. Thankfully, we have not reached that point where nukes are a political issue.

Oh my god you need to explain this galaxy brain take of how nukes aren't political because I refuse to believe someone's that ****ing braindead even if I know it's the same person who said "The Pacman amiibo is unpopular, y'know, like Hitler" or the cis dude who said "Don't speak for others Ms. Transwoman who said Catherine is transphobic! Erica is positively received by trans people". Nukes are bombs and kill innocent people because not everyone in a country is the enemy and have such powerful effects on the environment that Hiroshima and Nagasaki still have unsafe places. And the fact THEY CAN END UP DESTROYING THE ****ING PLANET. What did we do to deserve these dumbass takes?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

wasnt there a legit genocide of Japanese people in CodeGeass? That **** was nuts

 

[Cutie Gwen]

wasnt there a legit genocide of Japanese people in CodeGeass? That **** was nuts

Code Geass also has an episode of Lelouch and his entire school chasing for some ***** in promise of lewd activities
inb4 people see this post and are unaware of comedic hyperbole

 

[Opossum]

Oh my god you need to explain this galaxy brain take of how nukes aren't political because I refuse to believe someone's that ****ing braindead even if I know it's the same person who said "The Pacman amiibo is unpopular, y'know, like Hitler" or the cis dude who said "Don't speak for others Ms. Transwoman who said Catherine is transphobic! Erica is positively received by trans people". Nukes are bombs and kill innocent people because not everyone in a country is the enemy and have such powerful effects on the environment that Hiroshima and Nagasaki still have unsafe places. And the fact THEY CAN END UP DESTROYING THE ****ING PLANET. What did we do to deserve these ******* takes?

You're completely misunderstanding what he's saying and being an ass about it.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

You're completely misunderstanding what he's saying and being an *** about it.

I'm well aware I'm being an ass about it but after a while seeing multiple hot takes from the same dude I lose my patience. Yes I know this doesn't excuse my petty behaviour

 

[Schnee117]

"Avengers: Infinity War is a documentary about the Trump administration and how white people want to run the world"
and for the "Not enough LGBT characters" (also dont know if this creditable, sorry)

Calling them controversial would seem to be an exaggeration seeing as there's no huge ****storm for either of those.
The former isn't exactly wrong and the latter is correct. There's no Valkyrie in the film at all, even then as I said, her Bi scene in Ragnarok was cut. Ayo is in the film for all of a few seconds, but again her Bi stuff got cut from BP. Beyond that? There aren't really any LGBT characters presented in the film.

If by "effects international relations" you mean "completely wipes out the people of a nation so there is no nation to relate to", then sure.

That's why I don't consider it a political issue. That's selling it short. If the decision on whether or not to nuke a country was entrenched in politics, we'd see a lot more of them being developed and being launched. Thankfully, we have not reached that point where nukes are a political issue.

You forget about other nations. You don't nuke in a vacuum. Everyone else is still there to denounce you and impose sanctions.

The decision is inherently political. There is no arguing against this at all. Nuclear Weapons were, are and always shall be a politcal issue. Did you completely ****ing forget about the Cold War?

If you insist on looking like such a complete fool then please, continue. I won't entertain your sheer ignorance and stupidity though

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Celine Dion made a song for Deadpool 2. This is incredible.

If it's for Deadpool, I'm betting it's a parody of that one Titanic song

this almost makes me wanna go see Deadpool 2

 

[Opossum]

I'm well aware I'm being an *** about it but after a while seeing multiple hot takes from the same dude I lose my patience. Yes I know this doesn't excuse my petty behaviour

And if you don't fix that in yourself it's a piss-poor reflection of you as a person. You're not some hero for it, Gwen.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Calling them controversial would seem to be an exaggeration seeing as there's no huge ****storm for either of those.
The former isn't exactly wrong and the latter is correct. There's no Valkyrie in the film at all, even then as I said, her Bi scene in Ragnarok was cut. Ayo is in the film for all of a few seconds, but again her Bi stuff got cut from BP. Beyond that? There aren't really any LGBT characters presented in the film.

Dont get how people see IW as racist tbqh but they were just things I saw flaoting around. Thanks for being polite about that pff

guess it doesnt help i kinda skipped Black Panther( i just read the plot since I wasnt gonna see it anytime soon) and Thor

 

[Cutie Gwen]

And if you don't fix that in yourself it's a piss-poor reflection of you as a person. You're not some hero for it, Gwen.

It doesn't mean I'm wrong though, just that I'm being rude about it. I've finally gotten enough confidence to call **** out everywhere and I will call **** out in other places. While sure, I can do that with more tact and I may do that in the future, what good does that do to me here? My entire reputation on this site is "****posting toku weeb who's brash as ****"

Dont get how people see IW as racist tbqh but they were just things I saw flaoting around. Thanks for being polite about that pff

guess it doesnt help i kinda skipped Black Panther( i just read the plot since I wasnt gonna see it anytime soon) and Thor

Wait you're complaining about people who have complaints about a few movies you didn't actually bother to see?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Wait you're complaining about people who have complaints about a few movies you didn't actually bother to see?

both were about IW, if you saw I was talking about IW this whole time, maybe you didnt, im sure you didnt

in any case, I was talking about the complaints people had about IW, Not BP, Not Thor, IW

 

[Starlight_Lily]

X8 ended with Axl getting infected with some sort of virus... thing.

Zero actually did have a proper ending, which led to ZX. Unfortunately, well, ZXA had the mother of all cliffhangers.

Star Force was fine, it ended in a way you could see it as a series finale but one that could also come back. Similar to Battle Network 3.

Oh, okay. So was the virus implied to be Sigma?

 

[Opossum]

It doesn't mean I'm wrong though, just that I'm being rude about it. I've finally gotten enough confidence to call **** out everywhere and I will call **** out in other places. While sure, I can do that with more tact and I may do that in the future, what good does that do to me here? My entire reputation on this site is "****posting toku weeb who's brash as ****"

Wait you're complaining about people who have complaints about a few movies you didn't actually bother to see?

But the whole thing is you AREN'T RIGHT. Nuclear weapons very much go beyond political boundaries. There's dozens of psychological studies about that very thing. There's a specific word for the point of no return when it comes to nuclear warfare, but I'm forgetting it at the moment. The whole reason that warmonger dictators, even at their worst, don't resort to them. They know it's a no-win situation.

Once again you're arguing about something you know nothing about. And being known as brash isn't a good thing. It's no different from the dumb ***es who think Trump is great just because he "speaks his mind." You're literally no different from the very thing you claim to hate. You know what I see, Gwen? Someone who used to be a friend going down a bad path and refuses to so much as acknowledge a viewpoint counter to her own, because she thinks her shtick allows her to get away with it.

Clean up your act, Gwen.

 

[ChikoLad]

wasnt there a legit genocide of Japanese people in CodeGeass? That **** was nuts

Yep, on more than one occasion, and even the Britanian Empire deemed it as beyond politics. The Britanian Empire in Code Geass is a ruthless nation that conquers other nations, but even they run by a policy of "killing is done in moderation". Killing everyone is just madness.

Nuking is just inherently beyond politics because actually committing a nuclear genocide is never a good thing for political relations. It either makes other nations your enemy, or it wipes them from existence, which might in turn create rebellion among the few who survive. That's what I mean when I say it's not a political issue.

Now, bluffing a launch of a nuke, or manipulating information to make other countries believe you have one in your possession, is a political move. It gets people to talk with you and makes them more likely to meet your demands, though I still wouldn't consider that a good move in the long run since your relations are being cultivated out of fear and not out of genuine trust and shared goals. But regardless of how I feel about it, one can't deny there is strategic merit in nuke bluffing.

Actually launching that nuke though? There is no strategic, political merit to doing so. You destroy the people who you could have political relations with. You destroy the land they live on, so even if conquest is your goal, you can't cultivate their land. And then everyone else hates you.

If a nation's leaders are unironically considering launching a nuke on another country, that nation is nation ruled not by politicians, but by anarchist madmen.

The reasons why we as people oppose nukes is both humanitarian and environmental, not political. Saying it's political is, like I said, selling the issue short. None of us are thinking of politics when a nation threatens a nuke, or when it goes off. We are thinking of the lives that will be lost, and even for those that survive somehow, the land that they live on can no longer be cultivated and it's natural beauty is lost to us.

Granted, this may well be just me being overly semantic, but this is how I feel on the issue.

I'm well aware I'm being an *** about it but after a while seeing multiple hot takes from the same dude I lose my patience. Yes I know this doesn't excuse my petty behaviour

If you can't have a civilised discussion and must have reactionary outbursts and insults about opinions you don't like, rather than trying to have a dialogue and come to an understanding of why people think what they think, that says more about you than it does about me.

Trying to play it up like it's some marketable gimmick doesn't mask the flaw when you get down to it.

Though that's the last time I'm gonna iterate that.

 

[Deleted member]

there is one site( probably not creditable considering it legit called "The Black Persona Guide to Avengers Infinity War") called The Root where the first sintence about the premise is "Avengers: Infinity War is a documentary about the Trump administration and how white people want to run the world"
and for the "Not enough LGBT characters" (also dont know if this creditable, sorry)
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Oh ****.
Swery65 refallowed me on twitter

I mean, those articles aren't wrong.
"The villain of the movie is an old, wrinkled, powerful villain named Thanos J. Trump who wants all the power of the universe and really loves his daughter even though she is in love with an inadequate doofus. Sound familiar?"

Genocide is just inherently beyond politics because actually committing genocide is never a good thing for political relations

Just because it isn't good for political relations doesn't mean it isn't politics. Genocide and commenting on it are inherently political.
I mean, yeah, a bad guy trying to commit genocide on this marginalised group is in no way political.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

both were about IW, if you saw I was talking about IW this whole time, maybe you didnt

in any case, I was talking about the complainta people had about IW, Not BP, Not Thor, IW

Except those complaints were still valid in IW judging by the characters and their roles in the movies

Oh, okay. So was the virus implied to be Sigma?

Y'know I wouldn't be surprised if they try that out of fear fans would get mad about X8 NOT having Sigma as the main villain

But the whole thing is you AREN'T RIGHT. Nuclear weapons very much go beyond political boundaries. There's dozens of psychological studies about that very thing. There's a specific word for the point of no return when it comes to nuclear warfare, but I'm forgetting it at the moment. The whole reason that warmonger dictators, even at their worst, don't resort to them. They know it's a no-win situation.

Once again you're arguing about something you know nothing about. And being known as brash isn't a good thing. It's no different from the dumbasses who think Trump is great just because he "speaks his mind." You're literally no different from the very thing you claim to hate. You know what I see, Gwen? Someone who used to be a friend going down a bad path and refuses to so much as acknowledge a viewpoint counter to her own, because she thinks her shtick allows her to get away with it.

Clean up your act, Gwen.

But they ARE put into political situations so goddamn much that claiming otherwise is ignorant, especially as using a nuke DOES affect politics, it will change view points from other countries for the worst. Also the current guy with the nuke codes in the US is blatantly ignorant about the issues
I'm smarter than you think y'know, I KNOW the behaviour wasn't acceptable and I WOULD outright expect a temporary ban for lashing at chiko if it wasn't for rule breaking **** getting deleted instead of punished here as of from what I've seen. And no, I'm nothing like people who would gladly see specific groups of people murdered thank you very much. I'm willing to hear others out and can forgive people genuinely being unaware about something being bad (i.e if someone doesn't understand gender not being a binary that's fine) but not people deliberately being stupid (people ignoring actual facts and being horrible people). I'd honestly want others to call out dumb behaviour of mine like what you're doing and I don't see you as less of a person and that likely won't change.

Yep, on more than one occasion, and even the Britanian Empire deemed it as beyond politics. The Britanian Empire in Code Geass is a ruthless nation that conquers other nations, but even they run by a policy of "killing is done in moderation". Killing everyone is just madness.

Genocide is just inherently beyond politics because actually committing genocide is never a good thing for political relations. It either makes other nations your enemy, or it wipes them from existence, which might in turn create rebellion among the few who survive. That's what I mean when I say it's not a political issue.

Now, bluffing a launch of a nuke, or manipulating information to make other countries believe you have one in your possession, is a political move. It gets people to talk with you and makes them more likely to meet your demands, though I still wouldn't consider that a good move in the long run since your relations are being cultivated out of fear and not out of genuine trust and shared goals. But regardless of how I feel about it, one can't deny there is strategic merit in nuke bluffing.

Actually launching that nuke though? There is no strategic, political merit to doing so. You destroy the people who you could have political relations with. You destroy the land they live on, so even if conquest is your goal, you can't cultivate their land. And then everyone else hates you.

If a nation's leaders are unironically considering launching a nuke on another country, that nation is nation ruled not by politicians, but by anarchist madmen.

The reasons why we as people oppose nukes is both humanitarian and environmental, not political. Saying it's political is, like I said, selling the issue short. None of us are thinking of politics when a nation threatens a nuke, or when it goes off. We are thinking of the lives that will be lost, and even for those that survive somehow, the land that they live on can no longer be cultivated and it's natural beauty is lost to us.

Granted, this may well be just me being overly semantic, but this is how I feel on the issue.



If you can't have a civilised discussion and must have reactionary outbursts and insults about opinions you don't like, rather than trying to have a dialogue and come to an understanding of why people think what they think, that says more about you than it does about me.

Trying to play it up like it's some marketable gimmick doesn't mask the flaw when you get down to it.

Though that's the last time I'm gonna iterate that.

I mean, you're implying you're always civil and **** when last time we argued, you failed to use your own advice

 

[ChikoLad]

Just because it isn't good for political relations doesn't mean it isn't politics. Genocide and commenting on it are inherently political.
I mean, yeah, a bad guy trying to commit genocide on this marginalised group is in no way political.

You're right, I just had general genocide on the mind when typing due to reading Pumpkaboo's post.

I've amended my post, thanks.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I feel I should say My post about Code Geass. wasnt even about this hole of an argument thats happening?

I just wanted to talk about Code Geass

 

[ChikoLad]

I feel I should say My post about Code Geass. wasnt even about this hole of an argument thats happening?

I just wanted to talk about Code Geass

I'm re-watching it right now, so I wouldn't mind that.

 

[Deleted member]

Jfc I'm loving this article

Still, the movie was a little bit racist. How am I, as a black man, supposed to know the difference between Thor and Captain America? One was played by Chris Pine and the other by Chris Evans. I don’t know which is which because no one does. I honestly think they’re the same guy who’s doubling up on his Hollywood paychecks.

This is what a high-quality ****post looks like

The article on the lack of LGBT characters in movie is a legit issue though.

You're right, I just had general genocide on the mind when typing due to reading Pumpkaboo's post.

I've amended my post, thanks.

General genocide is still political though, regardless of context.
Even if you want the extreme bad guy "I want to destroy everything because I'm evil", it's can be constructed as a message on how insane it is to wage wars without end.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

It's things like this that make me want to avoid political and other controversial discussions as though they were the plague.

One way or another, they almost always quickly lead to some badly heated arguing (and that's putting it lightly).