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[Opossum]

So if we take the Twitter post at face Value, Mario Odessy will be the latest releasing Nintendo game on display. Though I have feeling they'll show off one big 1st Quarter 2018 game.

Possibly even later.

After all, they're likely showing off Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and we all know that's not meeting its 2017 release date.

 

[Coricus]

So if we take the Twitter post at face Value, Mario Odessy will be the latest releasing Nintendo game on display. Though I have feeling they'll show off one big 1st Quarter 2018 game.

Didn't Nintendo say somewhere in an interview that they had multiple system sellers they still haven't yet revealed?

The full statement elsewhere used the word "focus" that's always a bit funky with Nintendo. With all the games they've already revealed that have next to no information, I'd expect the majority of the time spent to be invested in already revealed games anyway, but with the way Nintendo has been talking I can't see them not revealing something new.

I think the key here as usual is to not go in with any expectations. Don't assume it will be great or awful beforehand, don't give any ultimatums about Nintendo having to make some kind of miracle presentation or you'll never buy a Switch when the system is going to have a several year lifespan full of games that will be revealed over several E3s and Directs, don't automatically rev up to be upset if anything goes wrong, etc.

Basically go into it with the logic that there's a good chance there won't be anything for you other than what's already announced but that there's still some possibility there will be. Balance is the best approach here.

 

[Opossum]

I just hope they show off more characters for Fire Emblem Warriors so I know how big to make my prediction rosters.

 

[Kurri ★]

Was this posted yet? Well, if it wasn't, here.

I need this game now

 

[Deleted member]

I just hope they show off more characters for Fire Emblem Warriors so I know how big to make my prediction rosters.

I just want some oddball choices
From stuff like Ruto or Darunia where you wouldn't 100% expect them to ****ing Agitha levels of "WHAT".
I just hope we have more than the DS games represented though

 

[Coricus]

I just hope they show off more characters for Fire Emblem Warriors so I know how big to make my prediction rosters.

Judging by the size of Hyrule Warriors and the fact that the swords in the initial teaser alone basically already reveal five characters, I think the Fire Emblem fandom is going to be pretty much collectively destroyed by whatever the end selection is, heh heh. . .

I'm just hoping they have a wide variety of characters. We've got a partial Manakete set and a mounted unit from what we can already guess, but by the nature of how they're even obvious in the first place also use swords and I'm hoping it doesn't all lean too hard into ordinary swordplay. It doesn't help anything that all the most popular lords are sword users.

 

[Deleted member]

It doesn't help anything that all the most popular lords are sword users.

>Third most popular main Lord is an Axe user

 

[ChikoLad]

Judging by the size of Hyrule Warriors and the fact that the swords in the initial teaser alone basically already reveal five characters, I think the Fire Emblem fandom is going to be pretty much collectively destroyed by whatever the end selection is, heh heh. . .

I'm just hoping they have a wide variety of characters. We've got a partial Manakete set and a mounted unit from what we can already guess, but by the nature of how they're even obvious in the first place also use swords and I'm hoping it doesn't all lean too hard into ordinary swordplay. It doesn't help anything that all the most popular lords are sword users.

Friendly reminder that we shouldn't base Fire Emblem Warriors predictions on how Hyrule Warriors is handled.

It was an exception based on the unique nature of Zelda characters, not the rule.

 

[Coricus]

>Third most popular main Lord is an Axe user

Well, fair enough, the poll slipped my mind.

Friendly reminder that we shouldn't base Fire Emblem Warriors predictions on how Hyrule Warriors is handled.

It was an exception based on the unique nature of Zelda characters, not the rule.

So what are you suggesting, like. . .the roster being increased by recycling character classes?

I would certainly hope they'd make a larger pool of classes then if they do that. Corrin doesn't play well with it due to their unique abilities, but if they can copy-paste some things off of the normal sword users and then make more room for more interesting classes as a result that might help alleviate some of the issues.

 

[Deleted member]

It doesn't help anything that all the most popular lords are sword users.

That's not saying anything since almost all lords are primarily sword users.

It'd be like saying that the majority of the most popular US presidents are white, like gee, I wonder why...

 

[Coricus]

That's not saying anything since almost all lords are primarily sword users.

It'd be like saying that the majority of the most popular US presidents are white, like gee, I wonder why...

That's just kind of it. Main characters in Fire Emblem just kind of slip into a default class style most of the time and it causes a bottleneck on creativity when using them, but at the same time they're the main characters so that's where the focus goes. . . It's a thing and it's just kind of difficult to work around.

The thing is, it's also no fun like that when even with the few Fire Emblems I've played I know it gets significantly more varied. You can look at Marth and then look at someone like Panne or Hayato, we know which one's actually going to get picked but we also know which ones would have been more interesting if it were down to gameplay rather than story roles.

 

[Opossum]

I kind of hope all kinds of magic are at least represented, in the event of a smaller roster and not a larger one.

Robin for Thunder with Thoron, Celica for Fire with Ragnarok, Merric for Wind with Excalibur, Micaiah for Light with Thani, and Tharja for Dark with Nosferatu (because you know she's getting in over Leo if it comes down to it).

 

[Cutie Gwen]

A FEW HOURS AGO
*checks twitter*
Yacht Club: Europeans can now enjoy Spe
*boots up Shovel Knight*
Specter of Torment is pretty damn good so far, it's like Mega Man in which you can choose which stages to tackle first instead of the world map, the Curios are all pretty neat and the stages are really tough! My only issue is the Horace minigame. You only get gold for it. At least I've got the achievement for bragging rights though it took me an hour and my hANDS ****ING HURT
Music's also great as always!

 

[ChikoLad]

Well, fair enough, the poll slipped my mind.



So what are you suggesting, like. . .the roster being increased by recycling character classes?

I would certainly hope they'd make a larger pool of classes then if they do that. Corrin doesn't play well with it due to their unique abilities, but if they can copy-paste some things off of the normal sword users and then make more room for more interesting classes as a result that might help alleviate some of the issues.

Dynasty Warriors games have run on class-based systems in the past. Fire Emblem normally has one, and licensed Warriors games like to draw from the source material, especially the game licenses since they have game mechanics they can pull from. Hyrule Warriors did this with the exploration elements in the maps and the Zelda-esque boss design that utilised items from Zelda games.

Logically, there is no reason not to expect a larger roster of characters under a class-based system, rather than making every character wholly unique. Especially given the volume of characters each individual Fire Emblem game has, it's one of the main hooks of the games.

I could be wrong and they'll try to make everyone wholly unique but I honestly would rather a class-based system since it's more true to the Fire Emblem games. They could even give characters unique stats. For example, let's say Marth and Chrom fit under some kind of sword wielding warrior class. They have the exact same combos and animations, but Chrom has higher Str, Def, and HP than Marth, but Marth has higher Spd (effects the speed of attack animations and dodge animations, maybe running speed too), Skill, and Crit stats. So characters still have a unique flair despite the class-based system.

 

[Coricus]

I kind of hope all kinds of magic are at least represented, in the event of a smaller roster and not a larger one.

Robin for Thunder with Thoron, Celica for Fire with Ragnarok, Merric for Wind with Excalibur, Micaiah for Light with Thani, and Tharja for Dark with Nosferatu (because you know she's getting in over Leo if it comes down to it).

Technically that skips over Scrolls from Fates. Again, so many interesting things held back by just not being plot relevant.

There was also Ice magic in Shadow Dragon, IIRC, so it also skips over that. Ain't no rule that says you can't have Merric juggle multiple spells, though.

 

[Mythra]

"Suddenly I want Celica for Smash."

-Yantra, hasn't played any FE yet (2017, colorized)

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Mythra who is that magical girl in your icon? Im in an old anime watching mood

 

[Opossum]

"Suddenly I want Celica for Smash."

-Yantra, hasn't played any FE yet (2017, colorized)

No joke, Celica's in my top five most wanted characters.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

No joke, Celica's in my top five most wanted characters.

All I want is Niles.. or Jakob... or Niles, I mean Leo. Did I mention Niles

 

[Mythra]

Mythra who is that magical girl in your icon? Im in an old anime watching mood

Yui Kasuga, from the anime Corrector Yui.

I used to watch it when it aired on CN a long time ago, I saw an image of the series yesterday and I was like "hey I remember this".

 

[Chrono.]

And no, a certain overpowered, leather wearing flaming homosexual had to be left out. Sorry Ash fans.

For a second I thought you were talking about THIS leather wearing flaming homosexual also called Ash.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

After seeing the Mania footage, not gonna lie, I'm not too fond of how Knuckles looks. Then again if my Sonic 3&K experience is any indication, once I get all the emeralds and beat all the stages as him, I'll probably never touch him again

 

[Z25]

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-574921372

This sums up showdown so well. I just had this happen.

 

[Chrono.]

After seeing the Mania footage, not gonna lie, I'm not too fond of how Knuckles looks. Then again if my Sonic 3&K experience is any indication, once I get all the emeralds and beat all the stages as him, I'll probably never touch him again

The one thing I hate about Knuckles is his slow ass climbing speed, always felt like it disrupted the flow but that might just be me.

 

[Deleted member]

I want Alm as a Link semiclone.
-Both are left-handed sword users and use bows
-Replace bombs with Oranges
-Boomerang is replaced with a Illusory Hero
-Final Smash is the sick shield drop
-He just drops the shield, jumps and OHKOs whoever he hits
-11/10 would main

I kind of hope all kinds of magic are at least represented, in the event of a smaller roster and not a larger one.

Robin for Thunder with Thoron, Celica for Fire with Ragnarok, Merric for Wind with Excalibur, Micaiah for Light with Thani, and Tharja for Dark with Nosferatu (because you know she's getting in over Leo if it comes down to it).

I was gonna agree with you but then I saw the choices :^(
Canas is the best Dark Magic user and that's not even a contest
And if anyone is getting in as a Light Magic user, it's Lucius :^)

A FEW HOURS AGO
*checks twitter*
Yacht Club: Europeans can now enjoy Spe
*boots up Shovel Knight*
Specter of Torment is pretty damn good so far, it's like Mega Man in which you can choose which stages to tackle first instead of the world map, the Curios are all pretty neat and the stages are really tough! My only issue is the Horace minigame. You only get gold for it. At least I've got the achievement for bragging rights though it took me an hour and my hANDS ****ING HURT
Music's also great as always!

Already? I only beat it after clearing the game and thanks to the upgraded Chrono Coin Curio

Dynasty Warriors games have run on class-based systems in the past. Fire Emblem normally has one, and licensed Warriors games like to draw from the source material, especially the game licenses since they have game mechanics they can pull from. Hyrule Warriors did this with the exploration elements in the maps and the Zelda-esque boss design that utilised items from Zelda games.

Logically, there is no reason not to expect a larger roster of characters under a class-based system, rather than making every character wholly unique. Especially given the volume of characters each individual Fire Emblem game has, it's one of the main hooks of the games.

I could be wrong and they'll try to make everyone wholly unique but I honestly would rather a class-based system since it's more true to the Fire Emblem games. They could even give characters unique stats. For example, let's say Marth and Chrom fit under some kind of sword wielding warrior class. They have the exact same combos and animations, but Chrom has higher Str, Def, and HP than Marth, but Marth has higher Spd (effects the speed of attack animations and dodge animations, maybe running speed too), Skill, and Crit stats. So characters still have a unique flair despite the class-based system.

I really hope they go for the class thing because that way we get a much bigger roster.
I don't even care if stats are all the same and the only thing that changes is appearence, I'd be fine with it
Just don't put Hector under General of I'm gonna riot

Technically that skips over Scrolls from Fates. Again, so many interesting things held back by just not being plot relevant.

There was also Ice magic in Shadow Dragon, IIRC, so it also skips over that. Ain't no rule that says you can't have Merric juggle multiple spells, though.

Scrolls aren't really that important to warrant being in Warriors, especially without a plot-relevant user. You have Not!Ricken, **** McChick 2.0 and Not!Tharja. And I'm pretty sure the numbef pf

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

For a second I thought you were talking about THIS leather wearing flaming homosexual also called Ash.

That Ash is a flamboyant pretty boy, but he's far from explicitly homosexual like Streets of Rage's Ash.

Albeit, his character was done in poor taste in the 90's nonetheless. Hence his Japan-only status until the fan project Streets of Rage Remake.

He's definitely a character you can solo SoR3 with easily because of his ridiculous strength and elegant jumps.

 

[Robertman2]

Axel Stone had won. Well he is the main hero of Streets of Rage and got a guests appearance in Project x Zone 2. Blaze and Adam were tied, but poor Max was ignored. They must hate wrestlers.

Next up is more from the Streets of Rage series. These are either fellow heroes that work with the agency or former Syndicate criminals that can be recruited in Streets of Rage 3. Your choices are Skate, Dr. Zan, Roo, and Shiva.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

And no, a certain overpowered, leather wearing flaming homosexual had to be left out. Sorry Ash fans.

For a second I thought you were talking about THIS leather wearing flaming homosexual also called Ash.

There's only one Ash that matters:

You know, he should be in Mortal Kombat 11. Or Soul Calibur VI

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I want Alm as a Link semiclone.
-Both are left-handed sword users and use bows
-Replace bombs with Oranges
-Boomerang is replaced with a Illusory Hero
-Final Smash is the sick shield drop
-He just drops the shield, jumps and OHKOs whoever he hits
-11/10 would main

I was gonna agree with you but then I saw the choices :^(
Canas is the best Dark Magic user and that's not even a contest
And if anyone is getting in as a Light Magic user, it's Lucius :^)

Already? I only beat it after clearing the game and thanks to the upgraded Chrono Coin Curio

I really hope they go for the class thing because that way we get a much bigger roster.
I don't even care if stats are all the same and the only thing that changes is appearence, I'd be fine with it
Just don't put Hector under General of I'm gonna riot

Scrolls aren't really that important to warrant being in Warriors, especially without a plot-relevant user. You have Not!Ricken, **** McChick 2.0 and Not!Tharja. And I'm pretty sure the numbef pf

Chrono Coin? ****. Though the talon's your best friend there, OHKOs the ****ing armoured knights Specky can't fight easily WHO SHOULDN'T BE IN THE HORACE MINIGAME IN THE FIRST PLACE
I only had 5 Will too, though death wasn't a problem after finding the Talon's potential

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

There's only one Ash that matters:

You know, he should be in Mortal Kombat 11. Or Soul Calibur VI

Oh yes!

Who cares about that pipsqueak trainer named Ketchum anyway?

 

[Schnee117]

A FEW HOURS AGO
*checks twitter*
Yacht Club: Europeans can now enjoy Spe
*boots up Shovel Knight*
Specter of Torment is pretty damn good so far, it's like Mega Man in which you can choose which stages to tackle first instead of the world map, the Curios are all pretty neat and the stages are really tough! My only issue is the Horace minigame. You only get gold for it. At least I've got the achievement for bragging rights though it took me an hour and my hANDS ****ING HURT
Music's also great as always!

Wii U only just got SoT in Europe now?
PS4 had it last week.

Already? I only beat it after clearing the game and thanks to the upgraded Chrono Coin Curio

Horace's race/gauntlet thing was one of the first things I did.

 

[ChikoLad]

I haven't seen it brought up anywhere on the interwebs, but am I the only one who thinks Alfonse and Sharena will be in FE Warriors too?

Gotta get that cross-promotion going.

They'll probably have an original character (maybe even a Robin/Corrin-esque avatar character) in FE Warriors too, just so they can make them a 5* Focus in FE Heroes.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Wii U only just got SoT in Europe now?
PS4 had it last week.



Horace's race/gauntlet thing was one of the first things I did.

Yup. Which is odd tbh as the Wii U version was one of the most successful versions of the game too
Oh, one problem I do have. The framerate ****ing CHUGS sometimes and I don't know why. Though one time I was above a pit of water (****in Specky can't swim) and the frame drop killed me. smh

Poor soul Q.Q

 

[Deleted member]

That Ash is a flamboyant pretty boy, but he's far from explicitly homosexual like Streets of Rage's Ash.

I'm pretty sure there's someone here that'd disagree with you on that
@Prince Alucard

Chrono Coin? ****. Though the talon's your best friend there, OHKOs the ****ing armoured knights Specky can't fight easily WHO SHOULDN'T BE IN THE HORACE MINIGAME IN THE FIRST PLACE
I only had 5 Will too, though death wasn't a problem after finding the Talon's potential

The knights weren't a problem for me, I don't think they even appear until the very end
My main issue was time, that's why the Chrono Coin helped me a lot.

 

[Schnee117]

Poor soul Q.Q

It was actually an enjoyable challenge for an otherwise easy expansion.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'm pretty sure there's someone here that'd disagree with you on that
@Prince Alucard

The knights weren't a problem for me, I don't think they even appear until the very end
My main issue was time, that's why the Chrono Coin helped me a lot.

Wait, time? What? Are the stages actually timed or am I not far enough in the game?

The only thing appearing at the very end were the magic books. I kept dying because I hadn't been able to practice the books in Specky Mode yet

 

[Deleted member]

Wii U only just got SoT in Europe now?
PS4 had it last week.



Horace's race/gauntlet thing was one of the first things I did.

It took me a minute to realise who you were but at least I didn't have to check the profile page

It was actually an enjoyable challenge for an otherwise easy expansion.

Specter Knight? Easy? You could make a case for the platforming(though I'd attibute that to Specter's balance between movement-and-control unlike the other two) but I found the bosses harded than the other two campaigns
Except Plague!Propeller Knight, **** that

Wait, time? What? Are the stages actually timed or am I not far enough in the game?

The only thing appearing at the very end were the magic books. I kept dying because I hadn't been able to practice the books in Specky Mode yet

Time in the Horace minigame due to the electrical thingy rising being the pseudo timer

 

[Opossum]

I want Alm as a Link semiclone.
-Both are left-handed sword users and use bows
-Replace bombs with Oranges
-Boomerang is replaced with a Illusory Hero
-Final Smash is the sick shield drop
-He just drops the shield, jumps and OHKOs whoever he hits
-11/10 would main

I was gonna agree with you but then I saw the choices :^(
Canas is the best Dark Magic user and that's not even a contest
And if anyone is getting in as a Light Magic user, it's Lucius :^)

Already? I only beat it after clearing the game and thanks to the upgraded Chrono Coin Curio

I really hope they go for the class thing because that way we get a much bigger roster.
I don't even care if stats are all the same and the only thing that changes is appearence, I'd be fine with it
Just don't put Hector under General of I'm gonna riot

Scrolls aren't really that important to warrant being in Warriors, especially without a plot-relevant user. You have Not!Ricken, **** McChick 2.0 and Not!Tharja. And I'm pretty sure the numbef pf

Trust me, I don't like Tharja, but you're lying to yourself if you think she won't be in. Between KT's love of boobs and her massive amount of popularity (fourth highest voted female character on the Heroes poll), you better believe she'd be their first choice for a Dark Mage.

Also Lucius would just use a staff like in Fire Emblem Heroes, completely forgoing magic.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It took me a minute to realise who you were but at least I didn't have to check the profile page

Specter Knight? Easy? You could make a case for the platforming(though I'd attibute that to Specter's balance between movement-and-control unlike the other two) but I found the bosses harded than the other two campaigns
Except Plague!Propeller Knight, **** that

Time in the Horace minigame due to the electrical thingy rising being the pseudo timer

Wait... There's a Curio that stopped time? THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO KNOW SEEING AS I WOULD HAVE WON A LOT EARLIER IF KNOCKBACK WASN'T SUCH A *****

Also

Except Plague!Propeller Knight, **** that

They patched that fight to make it less bull****

 

[Schnee117]

Specter Knight? Easy? You could make a case for the platforming(though I'd attibute that to Specter's balance between movement-and-control unlike the other two) but I found the bosses harded than the other two campaigns
Except Plague!Propeller Knight, **** that

Nah I one shot pretty much all of the bosses.
Helps that the game gives you a healing item and that hitting a boss a few times gives you some meter to use for healing.

 

[Bestmand902]

Any of you guys ever see Creed? It's a pretty good movie

Fun fact: I had no idea Creed was a Rocky movie until much later (That probably had to do with me knowing almost nothing about the movie).

But I've been meaning to see it, esp. since the lead is going to be in Black Panther next year.