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[ChikoLad]

So I know you guys like your leaks, so here's something you guys might like - some potential Kingdom Hearts 3 leaks.

For a bit of background, the leaker in question, Jose Álamo, has a history of leaking details for various Sony and Square Enix projects, and his leaks tend to be correct most of the time. Things he has leaked before are the existence of some games like The Last of Us 2 and Uncharted 4 and when they would be announced, and he also leaked an extensive amount of information about Final Fantasy XV prior to it's release, including many story spoilers and even what the final boss would be. So there is a good chance a lot of what he says here is from legitimate sources, and what he says will come true. He also leaked a little bit of information about KH3 earlier this year, but that info has yet to be confirmed or denied since we haven't gotten any major pieces of news about the game since then anyway.

As for what he's actually saying:
-Nomura will be at E3 this year and will have some kind of presentation for KH3, including a trailer which will confirm a 2018 release window for the game.
-The game was originally planned to release in December 2017, but they pushed back this date because Nomura now lives a good distance away from the Square Enix Osaka Team offices (Osaka Team are developing KH3). That's also why they haven't announced a release date yet.
-If KH3, for any reason, is not looking to have all of it's planned content finished before the end of 2018, then that content will be cut from the game rather than delaying it. Apparently because Square Enix and Disney want the game out in 2018, likely because they want to keep KH3 as a "one game per year" franchise like it has been for a while.
-We were supposed to get a KH3 trailer in April, but Osaka Team requested a cancellation of that reveal. Instead, they will release this trailer in December 2017, with some cuts (I can only assume they considered the trailer to be too spoiler heavy or that some of the content in that trailer has been cut from the game already or heavily reworked).
-The game is far enough in development for Nomura to be more concerned with what comes after the release of KH3 than KH3 itself. His main roles (story scenarios, character design, and the like) are already more or less done.

I'm willing to believe this, this all seems pretty in line with what we know of KH3's development so far, and how things go for KH games in general. It's also nothing extravagant so it's not like I'll be too bummed out if this stuff isn't true, it's mostly just development status details.

 

[Ivander]

I still don't get what made Xander decide, "Yes, she'll make a good retainer and definitely won't kill me or my family in my sleep."

Apparently, he chose her because he wanted someone who would not lose their life on the battlefield. I think this is in reference to the fact that Xander had 2 other retainers before Laslow and Peri and they gave up their lives to save him from Hoshidan soldiers and he still feels the pain of losing them. That being said, unironically, Peri is actually very loyal to Xander and is surprisingly one of the last ones who would murder Xander in his sleep. And considering Peri's support with Laslow and the fact that she can become a better person thanks to Laslow who was also chosen by Xander to become his retainer, Xander probably did the world a big favor.

That's a general problem I noticed with Awakening and Fates support system. A character who finally develops by the end of one support doesn't show signs of that development in other supports. Some examples I can think of:

• Beruka finally expresses emotion by the end of an S-Support such as hers with Arthur, but in another support, she goes back to being the emotionless robot that she is.
• Cordelia seemingly gets over Chrom by the end of an S-Support, but it turns out to not be the case, as she goes back to gushing about how much she loves him in her other supports.

This tends to be the main problem with supports besides other issues(like Robin being the last one that Tharja would put a curse on and yet she does in Father Robin and Noire's support). I think the general idea with the supports in Awakening and Fates is that you are supposed to treat each support as something they did at some point before the later conversations of others.

Basically, think of it this way, imagine if before you can have a character do a B-support with another character, they are forced to do the C-ranks of all the others before B-rank becomes available. Than before that character can do the A-support with another character, that character must do the B-ranks of all the others first before A-rank becomes available. Than before that character can do an S-support, they must do all the A-supports before they can finally choose a person for S-rank.

I think that's how the Awakening and Fates supports are being worked into with characters. A character basically did all C-rank conversations before the B-rank support took place and so on and so forth. The problem with that though is that gameplay-wise, forcing the player to do all C-rank supports before they can continue to B-rank and stuff would be an absolute gaming nightmare, especially in the case of Conquest. It would solve the issue of a character developing after one set of supports only for those developments to disappear in another support, but doing that would also make grinding more of a requirement which would tick off alot of people who don't want to grind.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Don't mind me, just back to posting the polls that some of you probably were wondering what's the hold up. Given the uneven amount of ARMS Fighters (7 official confirmed), I'll only choose the main mascots and some fan favorites for now. @Wario Bros. you may like this.

Spring Man, Ribbon Girl, MinMin, and Mechanica are about to have an all out 4 player royale and only you can choose the winner. Ready, begin.

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[Robertman2]

So I know you guys like your leaks, so here's something you guys might like - some potential Kingdom Hearts 3 leaks.

For a bit of background, the leaker in question, Jose Álamo, has a history of leaking details for various Sony and Square Enix projects, and his leaks tend to be correct most of the time. Things he has leaked before are the existence of some games like The Last of Us 2 and Uncharted 4 and when they would be announced, and he also leaked an extensive amount of information about Final Fantasy XV prior to it's release, including many story spoilers and even what the final boss would be. So there is a good chance a lot of what he says here is from legitimate sources, and what he says will come true. He also leaked a little bit of information about KH3 earlier this year, but that info has yet to be confirmed or denied since we haven't gotten any major pieces of news about the game since then anyway.

As for what he's actually saying:
-Nomura will be at E3 this year and will have some kind of presentation for KH3, including a trailer which will confirm a 2018 release window for the game.
-The game was originally planned to release in December 2017, but they pushed back this date because Nomura now lives a good distance away from the Square Enix Osaka Team offices (Osaka Team are developing KH3). That's also why they haven't announced a release date yet.
-If KH3, for any reason, is not looking to have all of it's planned content finished before the end of 2018, then that content will be cut from the game rather than delaying it. Apparently because Square Enix and Disney want the game out in 2018, likely because they want to keep KH3 as a "one game per year" franchise like it has been for a while.
-We were supposed to get a KH3 trailer in April, but Osaka Team requested a cancellation of that reveal. Instead, they will release this trailer in December 2017, with some cuts (I can only assume they considered the trailer to be too spoiler heavy or that some of the content in that trailer has been cut from the game already or heavily reworked).
-The game is far enough in development for Nomura to be more concerned with what comes after the release of KH3 than KH3 itself. His main roles (story scenarios, character design, and the like) are already more or less done.

I'm willing to believe this, this all seems pretty in line with what we know of KH3's development so far, and how things go for KH games in general. It's also nothing extravagant so it's not like I'll be too bummed out if this stuff isn't true, it's mostly just development status details.

Okay, but will there be Star Wars and a Switch version?

 

[Arcanir]

Fixing that would be a nightmare tbh. Either you have to drastically reduce the number of supports or hugely increase the amount of writing.

Honestly, If be okay with fewer supports as long as the 5 conversation limit is gone. Less supports to farm.

I think in that scenario taking the first option would be better then the second since the first just requires you to write, say five supports, then the 15 plus who knows how many variations between them. Additionally, depending on the character you can vary what they talk about in their five different supports so that they don't go back on their character development and rather they just talk about different things or develop a different trait. For instance, Jill has a clear development in PoR, but she only talks about her racism with Lethe and the base conversations (the latter of which progresses with the story), Mist is just her developing a sisterhood with her and her Haar support is Haar being Haar. So even if she had multiple A supports, she wouldn't repeat any development she got from her other supports, they just dealt with other parts of the character.

The only issue I can think with this would come in terms of characters pairing up as you can't have Selena keep of her As with Laslow and Odin if she marries either in both, so you'd still have to somehow restrict those type of supports.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Help me guys, I have find this song and I can't stop listening, plz help me.

Gosh, I miss this show so much.

This is honestly one of the best episodes in the history of animation


not to mention all the fanservice of so many characters appearing.

 

[Metal Shop X]

This is honestly one of the best episodes in the history of animation


not to mention all the fanservice of so many characters appearing.

Oh yeah, the "even without shark repellent" line - when I actually understand the line - make me put a big dumb smile on my face.
Not the mention all the other song, they are all 100% Bat-Gold.
#MusicMeisterIsTheBestComicBookVilain

 

[Aurane]

Spring Man, Ribbon Girl, MinMin, and Mechanica are about to have an all out 4 player royale and only you can choose the winner. Ready, begin.

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My vote is Flubber.

 

[Deleted member]

Batman is pretty overrated, and for one major reason:

He can't even turn into a bat.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Batman is pretty overrated, and for one major reason:

He can't even turn into a bat.

Jokes on you, there is a comic where he actually become a bat.
Well, more like a vampire (a pretty scary one at that), but hey, it's a step-up from before. And at worse, there is always Man Bat, am I right?

 

[Deleted member]

Jokes on you, there is a comic where he actually become a bat.
Well, more like a vampire (a pretty scary one at that), but hey, it's a step-up from before. And at worse, there is always Man Bat, am I right?

But can his bat form breath fire and summon other bats that also breathe fire?

 

[allison]

But can his bat form breath fire and summon other bats that also breathe fire?

My Sonic OC can. Your move, Batman

 

[Metal Shop X]

But can his bat form breath fire and summon other bats that also breathe fire?

I don't know, I haven't see the actual comic.
You can tell me tough if this thing could do it or not.

He really need a snicker, don't ya think?

 

[Deleted member]

My Sonic OC can. Your move, Batman

Sonic OCs don't count, in fact Sonic characters in general don't count.

Their coolness factor is reduced considerably by default because of how big their heads are to sniped. Unless you're Big the Cat or Eggman... Or Sonic Boom Knuckles. Best characters.

I don't know, I haven't see the actual comic.
You can tell me tough if this thing could do it or not.

He really need a snicker, don't ya think?

IDK, for some reason there's this unofficial rule that the more beautiful and charming a vampire is, the stronger they are.

Also, what even are those proportions?
I don't think a snickers bar would change all of those roids, as good as snickers are.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

My vote is Flubber.

Praise the Helix Fossil?

I hope we get more ARMS reveals this month.

 

[Deleted member]

Don't mind me, just back to posting the polls that some of you probably were wondering what's the hold up. Given the uneven amount of ARMS Fighters (7 official confirmed), I'll only choose the main mascots and some fan favorites for now. @Wario Bros. you may like this.

Spring Man, Ribbon Girl, MinMin, and Mechanica are about to have an all out 4 player royale and only you can choose the winner. Ready, begin.

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It baffles me that people would choose anyone OTHER than Robbon Girl, she's obviously the best character from Arms

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Ed's theme has lyrics.

Not bad actually.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

It baffles me that people would choose anyone OTHER than Robbon Girl, she's obviously the best character from Arms

Maybe Spring Man gives them Little Mac vibes.

And the MinMin fans would disagree with you. ARMS is already having pre-release waifu wars.

Still, Ribbon Girl is definitely the best character.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Sonic OCs don't count, in fact Sonic characters in general don't count.

Their coolness factor is reduced considerably by default because of how big their heads are to sniped. Unless you're Big the Cat or Eggman... Or Sonic Boom Knuckles. Best characters.


IDK, for some reason there's this unofficial rule that the more beautiful and charming a vampire is, the stronger they are.

Also, what even are those proportions?
I don't think a snickers bar would change all of those roids, as good as snickers are.

Slayer from Guilty Gear can confirm.

What? You tough I was going to say Dio or Alucard? Please.

(Tough, Hellsing Alucard is both this and not this I guess)

To be fair, he wasn't that monstrous before, it's just that, being cruficied and locked in a casket for a very long time without blood kinda **** up him both mentally and physically.

 

[MF Viewtiful]

Ed's theme has lyrics.

Not bad actually.

The theme is fine and all, but I think someone already improved on it.

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[Deleted member]

It baffles me that people would choose anyone OTHER than Robbon Girl, she's obviously the best character from Arms

Wrong.

Slayer from Guilty Gear can confirm.

What? You tough I was going to say Dio or Alucard? Please.View attachment 128988 (Tough, Hellsing Alucard is both this and not this I guess)

To be fair, he wasn't that monstrous before, it's just that, being cruficied and locked in a casket for a very long time without blood kinda **** up him both mentally and physically.

Slayer is a good example, especially since he's named after a metal band like some other guilty gear characters.

Well in that case it makes sense.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Wrong.


Slayer is a good example, especially since he's named after a metal band like some other guilty gear characters.

Well in that case it makes sense.

Yeah and, he actually killed The Joker in the comic.
And if there is one thing Batman will never do. It's this for sure.
So we can't blame for taking steroids while he was becoming insane and all that.

 

[Kurri ★]

Ed's theme has lyrics.

Not bad actually.

Oh, that's actually his theme? I thought they were just promoting another album like they did with Kolin and Lupe Fiasco's DROGAS

 

[Deleted member]

The theme is fine and all, but I think someone already improved on it.

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Cartoon Network: Punch Time Explosion 2 is looking great
I hope they add Steven in this game

Wrong.


Slayer is a good example, especially since he's named after a metal band like some other guilty gear characters.

Well in that case it makes sense.

>Saying I'm wrong without providing evidence as to why
Classic Alucard

 

[ChikoLad]

So that Kirby mod for MK8 was released. I tried it out in the video below.

Also, the game doesn't crash when you try to upload replays to YouTube when it's modded, unlike Smash Wii U. So hooray for that!

My favourite part is how his Warp Star Kart lights up in anti-gravity mode.

 

[Z25]

Pokémon Mars and Venus?

I dig it brah

I would laugh at the Mario x Pokémon thing but now we may have Mario x Rabbids to break the impossibles

I do wonder though, if a mario crossover happened how would it work and what would its plot be?

 

[Deleted member]

Cartoon Network: Punch Time Explosion 2 is looking great
I hope they add Steven in this game

Incorrect, go back to school and learn something.

>Saying I'm wrong without providing evidence as to why
Classic Alucard

Why do I need to when it's so apparent?

And if I were classic Alucard I'd be 8-bit.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Wow I put in an old dress for my graduation and I grew a bit to much

 

[Swamp Sensei]

http://nintendotoday.com/nintendo-p...e-the-target-of-10-million-switch-units-sold/

What do you guys think of this?

 

[Erureido]

Here's a topic for everyone here.

Let's say you had to pick between two characters: one character is someone you consider really bland for personal reasons, the other is a character that you consider to be terribly written/portrayed and you despise that character as a result.

If you had to pick between the bland character and that character you hate, which one would you pick and why?

My answer:

Spoiler

The bland character. A bland character does not frustrate me in the way a terribly written/portrayed character does. The bland character would make me yawn and say, "Don't care about you at all," while the terribly written/portrayed character could potentially make me so angry that I might want to scream and end up with a feeling that my blood is boiling (and let me tell you, feeling like your blood boiling from anger is not a pleasant feeling at all).

Basically, I'd rather feel bored and indifferent towards a character than utterly frustrated towards one.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Here's a topic for everyone here.

Let's say you had to pick between two characters: one character is someone you consider really bland for personal reasons, the other is a character that you consider to be terribly written/portrayed and you despise that character as a result.

If you had to pick between the bland character and that character you hate, which one would you pick and why?

My answer:

Spoiler

The bland character. A bland character does not frustrate me in the way a terribly written/portrayed character does. The bland character would make me yawn and say, "Don't care about you at all," while the terribly written/portrayed character could potentially make me so angry that I might want to scream and end up with a feeling that my blood is boiling (and let me tell you, feeling like your blood boiling from anger is not a pleasant feeling at all).

Basically, I'd rather feel bored and indifferent towards a character than utterly frustrated towards one.

Id rather hang with the bland character that I kinda like then The person I hate

 

[ChikoLad]

Here's a topic for everyone here.

Let's say you had to pick between two characters: one character is someone you consider really bland for personal reasons, the other is a character that you consider to be terribly written/portrayed and you despise that character as a result.

If you had to pick between the bland character and that character you hate, which one would you pick and why?

My answer:

Spoiler

The bland character. A bland character does not frustrate me in the way a terribly written/portrayed character does. The bland character would make me yawn and say, "Don't care about you at all," while the terribly written/portrayed character could potentially make me so angry that I might want to scream and end up with a feeling that my blood is boiling (and let me tell you, feeling like your blood boiling from anger is not a pleasant feeling at all).

Basically, I'd rather feel bored and indifferent towards a character than utterly frustrated towards one.

I mean in what context?

If it's in a show/non-interactive medium, I'd probably rather the bad character honestly. It gives me something I can talk about and dissect.

In the context of video game that isn't very story driven, I'd rather the bland character because even if how they are written isn't very interesting or anything worth talking about, they can at least still be given cool abilities that make them fun to play in gameplay. Mario is basically the epitome of this.

 

[Aetheri]

http://nintendotoday.com/nintendo-p...e-the-target-of-10-million-switch-units-sold/

What do you guys think of this?

10 mill's not an unreasonable estimate since the system sold more than a quarter of that in one month with only 'one-game' in March...so long as Nintendo keeps up the supply and continues to shell out quality titles over the year especially during the holidays, its not out of the realm of possibility...

That is of course assuming Nintendo can keep those requirements...

I feel like Kimi's just playing the pessimist...especially since he's predicting the system to outsell the Wii...

 

[Knight Dude]

Don't mind me, just back to posting the polls that some of you probably were wondering what's the hold up. Given the uneven amount of ARMS Fighters (7 official confirmed), I'll only choose the main mascots and some fan favorites for now. @Wario Bros. you may like this.

Spring Man, Ribbon Girl, MinMin, and Mechanica are about to have an all out 4 player royale and only you can choose the winner. Ready, begin.

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Spring Man would make the most sense. If he's the poster boy for the game, he'd probably be chosen. You don't start out with a Luigi.

http://nintendotoday.com/nintendo-p...e-the-target-of-10-million-switch-units-sold/

What do you guys think of this?

Makes sense. You don't really have a lot of major games on the system yet. And while Zelda was a strong sell, they need more titles to make that push. It'd probably hit it's stride by 2018 or 2019. Though they are selling themselves a tiny bit short, it should fair better than the Wii-U. I actually hear people talk about it outside of the internet and I've seen 3 people actually use it as a portable. Normally I only see people use their phone or 3DS.

 

[ChikoLad]

http://nintendotoday.com/nintendo-p...e-the-target-of-10-million-switch-units-sold/

What do you guys think of this?

I might just take this as a sign to not get my hopes up for anything spectacular at E3. More Wii U ports and one or two exclusives that will pique interest, but not hype me up. Super Mario Odyssey and Fire Emblem Warriors will also keep me entertained during their E3 showing but I'm already aware they exist.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Here's a topic for everyone here.

Let's say you had to pick between two characters: one character is someone you consider really bland for personal reasons, the other is a character that you consider to be terribly written/portrayed and you despise that character as a result.

If you had to pick between the bland character and that character you hate, which one would you pick and why?

My answer:

Spoiler

The bland character. A bland character does not frustrate me in the way a terribly written/portrayed character does. The bland character would make me yawn and say, "Don't care about you at all," while the terribly written/portrayed character could potentially make me so angry that I might want to scream and end up with a feeling that my blood is boiling (and let me tell you, feeling like your blood boiling from anger is not a pleasant feeling at all).

Basically, I'd rather feel bored and indifferent towards a character than utterly frustrated towards one.

I would probably have to pick the bad character.

You can go into multiple details about why you think a character is terribly written/bad. For a bland character, all you can really say is just "they're bland."

 

[Deleted member]

I consider bland characters to be badly written so I guess I can't choose between the two
A mess of ideas and contradictions and a boring and uninteresting character are the same **** to me at the end of the day

 

[Erureido]

I mean in what context?

I mainly had a video game context in mind when I came up with this question.

I thought about the topic from the Peri discussion that took place a page ago, as she would qualify for a character one could consider terribly written/portrayed to the point that person would hate her. Then, I remembered one major criticism against the Birthright characters that many FE fans emphasize: that most of the Birthright cast is "bland." It reminded me of discussions I've seen on Serenes Forest where, in a comparison between two characters, some people picked Peri over Kagero, Peri's Hoshidan counterpart who is commonly criticized for being bland, because they simply do not like bland characters and often usedthe argument, "At least I remember something out of Peri, unlike Kagero."

The Hinoka vs Camilla could also apply to this debate as well. One character is commonly criticized for being bland and forgettable but not very controversial (Hinoka), the other is commonly criticized for being a terribly written character and very controversial (Camilla). You could imagine why some people will pick Camilla over Hinoka or the other way around.

 

[ChikoLad]

I consider bland characters to be badly written so I guess I can't choose between the two
A mess of ideas and contradictions and a boring and uninteresting character are the same **** to me at the end of the day

I think the distinction is that bad characters actually frustrate or even offend you, while bland characters are inoffensive.

Neither is good really but I think with bland characters, they don't have the potential to actually mess with an otherwise good narrative or cast of characters, therefore they're quite inoffensive.

Then you have actually bad characters, like Peri in FE Fates, who actually require other characters to be written badly to make the bad character work. If Peri didn't have the "stabby stabby killy killy" gimmick and had a more mellowed out personality, she'd be more bland, but she wouldn't cause problems for the overall narrative and would probably work fine as an S-Support for most other characters like Xander.

 

[Deleted member]

I consider bland characters to be badly written so I guess I can't choose between the two
A mess of ideas and contradictions and a boring and uninteresting character are the same **** to me at the end of the day

Wrong once again, and this time I'll explain why.

There's nothing to really learn from bland characters, usually bland characters are bare-bones and don't take any risks.

Meanwhile outright bad characters can show you what not to do, you can see why something doesn't work and retool potentially good concepts.