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Sonic Forces got a patch.

Also confirms that Super Sonic will be DLC.


Also, this tweet from the JP Sonic Forces account seems to suggest that Hint Rings can be turned off, thank goodness.

I was going to be pissed until I remembered SEGA said Forces DLC would be free
 

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From what I've seen and heard, I don't have confidence Forces will be highly regarded by people outside the Sonic Defence Force. It might be premature, but it seems Sonic's crawl from out of his slump a few years back may be more short-lived than desired. Hopefully I'm wrong.

And as far as Monster Hunter goes, I can see why Capcom would choose the platforms (it's not a PS4 exclusive) they have given their goal of this game: to expand into the west. That said, I would not be surprised if it failed to prove itself the success they're seeking, though they are giving it a decent marketing push (at least from my limited knowledge - don't really care about MH). Plus, their lack of faith in the Switch will be at their own detriment given its popularity in Japan and function as a portable would help alleviate some of the potential shortcomings should it underperform in the new markets they're attempting to tap - because that's a guaranteed windfall. And I mean Capcom are just being butts anyway with their glacial pace of coming around on the Switch, with the system missing out on cool **** like Okami HD and the Mega Man collection while they miss out on profits. It's harder and harder to like them these days.


Also if you smell bad plz take several soapy showers because for some who value our noses, such as myself, that is a dealbreaker. >_<
 
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From what I've seen and heard, I don't have confidence Forces will be highly regarded by people outside the Sonic Defence Force. It might be premature, but it seems Sonic's crawl from out of his slump a few years back may be more short-lived than desired. Hopefully I'm wrong.
I mean there is no reason to believe the game will be particularly bad. It's perfectly polished. It's not another '06 or Rise of Lyric.

It's just not gonna be to everyone's tastes, and I'm sure review scores will reflect that with a 70-80 range.

It's going to be a hit with the younger crowd regardless of what us more picky adults think of it, so I don't think the game will be a failure by any stretch.
 

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I mean there is no reason to believe the game will be particularly bad. It's perfectly polished. It's not another '06 or Rise of Lyric.

It's just not gonna be to everyone's tastes, and I'm sure review scores will reflect that with a 70-80 range.

It's going to be a hit with the younger crowd regardless of what us more picky adults think of it, so I don't think the game will be a failure by any stretch.
Well, we'll see. There aren't very many highly regarded games that fall under the 70-80 range (which, incidentally, is already the upper echelon of modern Sonic games), are a hit with young kids alone, and the very high bars they're boasting superiority to are '06 and Rise of Lyric. So again, we'll see. I'm not expecting this game to bolster series reputation.

Btw while no game is to "everyone's taste", a game that aims to appeal largely to a young and casual market like Sonic shouldn't be an acquired gaming taste. That would be counterproductive. It should be one with wide appeal. The fact that that's a caveat sounds almost like preemptive Sonic Defence Force. Well, that and using all the discerning prowess of children as a barometer (not that I'm saying they shouldn't enjoy what they enjoy).

Though I take back what I said about the slump because even though I played and beat it not three months ago, I already forgot about Mania. Embarrass
 

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Well, we'll see. There aren't very many highly regarded games that fall under the 70-80 range (which, incidentally, is already the upper echelon of modern Sonic games), are a hit with young kids alone, and the very high bars they're boasting superiority to are '06 and Rise of Lyric. So again, we'll see. I'm not expecting this game to bolster series reputation.

Btw while no game is to "everyone's taste", a game that aims to appeal largely to a young and casual market like Sonic shouldn't be an acquired gaming taste. That would be counterproductive. It should be one with wide appeal. The fact that that's a caveat sounds almost like preemptive Sonic Defence Force. Well, that and using all the discerning prowess of children as a barometer (not that I'm saying they shouldn't enjoy what they enjoy).

Though I take back what I said about the slump because even though I played and beat it not three months ago, I already forgot about Mania. Embarrass
I mean you can sass all you want, and I'm not part of any "Sonic Defense Force" (I've actually been quite critical of the game), but are you seriously gonna suggest that a 70-80 game is not good? That's enough to be considered highly regarded in most circles. Highly regarded =/= mass critical acclaim (the latter usually equates to some degree of corporate shilling being involved anyway).

When I said "it won't appeal to everyone's tastes", I meant within the more hardcore Sonic fan base specifically. Not everyone there likes the "Boost formula" and people on sites like Sonic Retro just inherently prefer something akin to Mania. It's no different to the split in the FE fanbase, Mario fanbase, etc.

When it comes to the general reception of the game from the general audience, there's no reason to believe that it will be so controversial. The game is well put together, has plenty of fast-paced action which is what the general public likes in Sonic (regardless of how automated or open-ended it might be), and it has an avatar creator which has already been proven to be something people are looking forward to, which is all it needs to do well.

Like I have my fair share of criticism on the game but the game hardly looks like a disaster by any means. At worst, it's a completely safe game going back to a game play system that was in demand and expanding upon it.

In other words, literally the exact same thing as Super Mario Odyssey.
 

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I mean you can sass all you want, and I'm not part of any "Sonic Defense Force" (I've actually been quite critical of the game), but are you seriously gonna suggest that a 70-80 game is not good? That's enough to be considered highly regarded in most circles. Highly regarded =/= mass critical acclaim (the latter usually equates to some degree of corporate shilling being involved anyway).

When I said "it won't appeal to everyone's tastes", I meant within the more hardcore Sonic fan base specifically. Not everyone there likes the "Boost formula" and people on sites like Sonic Retro just inherently prefer something akin to Mania. It's no different to the split in the FE fanbase, Mario fanbase, etc.

When it comes to the general reception of the game from the general audience, there's no reason to believe that it will be so controversial. The game is well put together, has plenty of fast-paced action which is what the general public likes in Sonic (regardless of how automated or open-ended it might be), and it has an avatar creator which has already been proven to be something people are looking forward to, which is all it needs to do well.

Like I have my fair share of criticism on the game but the game hardly looks like a disaster by any means. At worst, it's a completely safe game going back to a game play system that was in demand and expanding upon it.

In other words, literally the exact same thing as Super Mario Odyssey.
A 70-80 score is bad in a year with multiple critically acclaimed titles in the 90's left and right, including another Sonic game, BotW, SMO, Wolfenstein, Persona 5, Yakuza, Horizon Zero Dawn, etc.

Oh, and SMO has always impressed people in the marketing, Forces has not only made people concerned about the game, but many people are expressing disappointment after the leaks because of something they marketed
 

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I have kind of wanted to post this for a while, some individuals say that Xenoblade Chronicle 2's anime aesthetic is too generic for a video game... well first off Xenoblade Chronicles is a JRPG so it is pretty to have this artstyle shift, my guess has always been that Monolithsoft wants to gain more towards the Japanese audience who are familiar with anime (Like me), with Xenoblade Japan Twitter posting rare Blades designed by many Japanese artist somewhat proves that.

With that said, I do admit XC2 does look like other sort of niche Japanese RPG or even action so I will post screenshots of XC2, Tales of Berseria, Nights of Azure 2, Valkyria Chronicles, Valkyria Revolution, Persona 5, and Digimon Story Cybersleuth. Mostly two to four pics for each game...

Not going to compare to other Nintendo franchise for now... so Fire Emblem, Tokyo Mirage Sessions are not in here.

The first part I would compare is... in game cutscenes but with some rules and same traits:
No traditional anime cutscene is compared here... only in game cutscenes or at least CGI cutscenes
I particularly pick those screenshots that has face expression properly shown.

So... here we go...

Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Yep, Nia sure has that expression...

Tales of Berseria
When comes to Xenoblade Chronicles 2 reveal, I initially thought Monolith Soft was going to make a Tales game... so in my opinion XC2's style is kind of like Tales of Berseria.

Nights of Azure 2
Even though Nights of Azure 2 tends to have more fanservice when it comes to the character designs and the plot... in most of the cutscenes their eyes look just a bit lifeless...

Valkyria Chronicles Remastered(?)
If anyone can tell me the name of the girl who is eating watermelon I would be glad.

Valkyria Revolution
Eh... I'm not a huge fan of Valkyria Revolution's style... the eyes somewhat reminds me of Xenoblade Chronicles X...

Persona 5
Sorry, I can't find any better in game pic of Caroline and Justine...

Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth (Some screenshots are probably Hacker's Memory)
These again, were more hard tofind, and sorry I'm not sure if the last pic is CGI or not...

I actually do acknowledge that plenty of JRPG games do have similar aesthetic these days, no wonder why some say XC2 looks generic...

So if I want to rank which games have the best aesthetics, I have to say I think Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 are the best in my opinion.

Just hurry up and port Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth to the Switch BandaiNamco (Especially you Bandai)... once the rival of Pokemon (at least in Japan) can have the chance being on the same console with Pokemon. For Hacker's Memory I don't think but nice if they did as well.

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Oh a new rare Blade shown
Reyn... is that you?

This was drawn by Takahashi's wife.

Also update chart on the VA:
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I tried to post the link but the pic was broken... download it and upload it it gave me this message... is it my laptop's network problem or Smashboards'?
Here's the link anyway:
https://i.imgur.com/gtTfsG3.jpg
 
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With the game getting extremely positive reception from both vets and newbies alike and how Capcom has been pushing it. I think it'll do fine in the end.

It's just right now in a looab
What the **** was I even trying to say at the end.

This is why you don't browse the internet after taking your sleeping medication.
 
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Also, today in "I still don't get why I should feel threatened by Reinhardt when Nino is doing her best"
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Yes, this is from TT I don't have a screenshot of her destroying him in the Arena
 
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Where the **** is the Halloween title? Are you agaknst Halloween or something? This is the only day skeletons can walk in the streets without being discriminated.
Not that I trust a skeleton or anything
 

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Where the **** is the Halloween title? Are you agaknst Halloween or something? This is the only day skeletons can walk in the streets without being discriminated.
Not that I trust a skeleton or anything
It just took me a while to craft the perfect title, is all.
 
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I can't believe Opossum just made a mother****ing iCarly reference

Anyways, I tried looking up for this but I didn't find it anywhere so I hope this meme hasn't been done before even though it probably has and should
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Ruby was born on Halloween? Oh god, I can't believe the protagonist of RWBY is actually a skeleton, they're trying to make us think skeletons are our friends, don't buy into it!

That's something only a skeleton would say, because all of us HUMANS know skeletons can't be trusted.

And no, never even heard of it until just now actually.
I'm already juggling, like, 4 shows this season that I still haven't caught up so I don't think I'll be watching anything else
But I'm not a Skeleton, my avatar clearly shows that I'm a cat.

Pffft, only 4 shows, your an armature at watching anime, try like watching 10 show, while continuing to work on your backlog. You lack the right kind motivation to be in this fandom boy.

Pay no attention to the current show I'm only watching being Love Live Sunshine
 
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But I'm not a Skeleton, my avatar clearly shows that I'm a cat.

Pffft, only 4 shows, your an armature at watching anime, try like watching 10 show, while continuing to work on your backlog. You lack the right kind motivation to be in this fandom boy.

Pay no attention to the current show I'm only watching being Love Live Sunshine
Skeletons use the skin of others to disguise themselves so how do I know you didn't just steal a cat's skin?

Oh yeah, my backlog
*Looks over to my pile of On Hold and Plan to Watch shows*
I'll get to them... When seasonal anime stop being good
 

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A 70-80 score is bad in a year with multiple critically acclaimed titles in the 90's left and right, including another Sonic game, BotW, SMO, Wolfenstein, Persona 5, Yakuza, Horizon Zero Dawn, etc.

Oh, and SMO has always impressed people in the marketing, Forces has not only made people concerned about the game, but many people are expressing disappointment after the leaks because of something they marketed
Scores don't become more or less valuable based on how many 90+ scoring games there are in the year. Every year has a multitude of them.

Trying to argue the worth of a score being variable by the year is only proving how arbitrary scores really are and why we shouldn't use them for legitimate critique, and how they're nothing more than a marketing gimmick for both the publisher and the journalist.

And from what I've seen, more people are impressed by the Sonic Forces leaks than disappointed. Super Mario Odyssey didn't look like a 10/10 GOTY to absolutely everybody either and it's definitely not a perfect game. Super Mario Odyssey really shouldn't be compared to Sonic Forces anyway since both are totally different games.
 

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Speaking of the devil.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

They scored Mania 32/40 by the way.
 
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I feel like Forces may have accidentally dug it's own grave when it was decided for it to release so close to Odyssey. Those fanbases overlap quite a bit. Though it is worth noting the amount of Switch's in the wild compared to PS4's and Xbox One's and considering it's coming out for all 3 I think it'll do fine sales wise. I'm still wait and see on the reviews though. There's a lot of polish to the game and I'm liking some of what I see but there's a lot more that bothers me.
 

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Speaking of the devil.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

They scored Mania 32/40 by the way.
They also gave Sonic 06 30/40 and Lost World a perfect score. They judge graphics, gameplay and music in seperate 10s iirc
W-what!? H-how dare you! Of course I'm not a skeleton, I have skin and flesh and they were 100% born with me.
How do we know YOU'RE not a skeleton?
That's something a skeleton would say and do, try to point suspicion at another person
Scores don't become more or less valuable based on how many 90+ scoring games there are in the year. Every year has a multitude of them.

Trying to argue the worth of a score being variable by the year is only proving how arbitrary scores really are and why we shouldn't use them for legitimate critique, and how they're nothing more than a marketing gimmick for both the publisher and the journalist.

And from what I've seen, more people are impressed by the Sonic Forces leaks than disappointed. Super Mario Odyssey didn't look like a 10/10 GOTY to absolutely everybody either and it's definitely not a perfect game. Super Mario Odyssey really shouldn't be compared to Sonic Forces anyway since both are totally different games.
Name 1 person not disappointed about
Chaos not having a fight, the seemingly early game level being in the middle, Tails being reduced to an absolute wimp who cries for help in a situatiom he's gotten over before, the reusage of the Colours final boss AGAIN for the final boss' first phase, the fact Infinite just disappears as if he was never there, the fact that this isn't the dev team that brought us Unleashed and Generations after all and the ending being odd
Don't get me wrong, I want the game to succeed and it's still got good going for it.
Mario Odyssey's only point of contention with the public prerelease was realistic humans.
If they shouldn't be compared, answer me this
Why did you compare them in the first place?
 
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