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I thought Throat Chop was exclusive to Incineroar too, but Sneasel and Weavile can learn it.
Sneasel has to be bred Throat Chop from Incineroar.

Fun fact, Throat Chop is "Hell Thrust" in Japanese.
 

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This upcoming Splatoon 3rd Koshien poster is lit.
I feel like they tend to make the poster Inkling look slightly sexy...
 
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Here's some interviews from Switch third party developers.

http://www.dualshockers.com/final-fantasy-xv-nintendo-switch-tease-clarified/



http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/09/02/fifa-18-dev-explains-why-switch-version-has-cut-modes





How do you guys feel about these two quotes?

Cause I'm not too happy...
The top one is absolutely the cause of the Luminous Engine being utter ****. Like, it can output some pretty great visuals but there's horror stories going around about how much of a nightmare it was to work in that thing during FFXV's 10 year development cycle.

The bottom one is EA being lazy and just plain old being ****ing morons. Nothing new. PES is a better soccer series anyways, imo.
 

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So I was checking out the Yugioh manga for the spinoffs and how different they were from the anime and yeah... It's a lot. The most fun part for me how Jaden's deck changes from his anime counterpart.

They both use E-HEROs at first, but anime Judai later upgraded the deck to include Neo Spacians, which are infamous for being the worst upgrade a YGO protagonist has ever gotten (not really in the anime proper, as they're made to look competent there, but in the actual game they've always been a lame duck, and on top of that, they have not gotten ANY support since GX ended in 2008).

In the manga on the other hand... Judai upgrades to the way more fun to use Masked HEROs (which only came out to the actual game in 2014-6). Not only are they more practical, but they're based Toku/Kamen Rider (paging Cutie Gwen Cutie Gwen ).

For reference:



 

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So I was checking out the Yugioh manga for the spinoffs and how different they were from the anime and yeah... It's a lot. The most fun part for me how Jaden's deck changes from his anime counterpart.

They both use E-HEROs at first, but anime Judai later upgraded the deck to include Neo Spacians, which are infamous for being the worst upgrade a YGO protagonist has ever gotten (not really in the anime proper, as they're made to look competent there, but in the actual game they've always been a lame duck, and on top of that, they have not gotten ANY support since GX ended in 2008).

In the manga on the other hand... Judai upgrades to the way more fun to use Masked HEROs (which only came out to the actual game in 2014-6). Not only are they more practical, but they're based Toku/Kamen Rider (paging Cutie Gwen Cutie Gwen ).

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Ya dun goofed tagging Gwen about anything Kamen Rider related. Now you'll never hear the end of her persistently obsessed rambling.
 
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AAAAAAAND NOW while i still remember it i list my wants for gen 8 of pokemon because USUM has almost given me nothing to work with

1- focus on expanding current mechanics over trying to make new ones ala D/P/Plt
(read make more megas and exclusive z moves, bring back rotation and triple battles, make inverse battles a normal thing you can do over wifi)
2- make new evo's and pre evos to old pokemon
(will have a list in a spoiler at the end for what id like to see)
3- a pokedex over 100 new mons....please
(in this case 130 total((not counting event mons) with 30 of them being related to past mons and 10 being Legends/UB's)
4- Retain the character customization But allow for us to pick a default hairstyle and color in a pool of like 6
(seriously i cant be the only one who thinks its a bit odd we cant choose our default hair style)
5- obligatory pokemon following you goes here
6- 2 more types to give ice type some form of resitances beyond itself and ya know 20 is a much nicer rounder number
(yes i know ice is super good offensively but ground is super effective against 5 types and it has 2 resistances AND an immunity
where as ice has 1 resistance and is only good against 4 types and Dragon has a much bigger threat to worry about)

And now the moment you've all (probobly not) been waiting for the list of old pokemon getting new evolutionary stages
Gen 1
Primeape-Evolution
Jynx-Evolution
Eevee- Evolution x2 (Dragon & Ghost)
Lapras-PreEvolution
Tauros-Shared PreEvolution w/Miltank

Gen 2
Lanturn-Evolution
Girafarig-Evolution
Dunsparce-Evolution
Miltank-Shared PreEvolution w/Tauros
Skarmory-PreEvolution

Gen 3
Breloom-Evolution
Wishcash-Evolution
Torkoal-PreEvolution

Gen 4
Combee(Male)-Trade Evolution (trade with male Salandit)
Cherrim-Evolution
Toxicroak-Evolution
Carnivine-Evolution

Gen 5
Liepard-Evolution
Maractus-Evolution
Galvantula-Evolution
Druddigon-PreEvolution

Gen 6
Malamar-Evolution
Furfrou-PreEvolution
Hawlucha-PreEvolution

Gen 7
Salandit(Male)-Trade Evolution w/Male Combee
Komala-Evolution
Pyukumuku-Evolution
Mimikyu-Evolution
Shiinotic-Evolution
Oranguru & Passimian-Shared PreEvolution

now you might be wondering why i chose certain pokemon to get evolutions while others pre evolutions
or why i chose to not pick certain 1 stage pokemon

well its simple really gen 4 set the precident for the highest bst of a pokemon that evolved at 490 so certain pokemon id liked to have chosen like say gogoat or pyroar were just over the line and i didnt want to make pokemon to not get a decent bonus to their stats. meanwhile i chose pokemon to get pre evolutions based on if i could see something growing into it.
hence why something like komala got an evolution because i REALLY could not see a baby version of it. There was also some other deciding factors like being part of or a set of pokemon but getting over looked previously, or being overlooked in general.

also i made sure to not pick any pokemon with mega evolutions, but disregarded Z-moves because pikachu and eevee both have exclusive Z-moves and they evolve

and to force at least 1 person to look at this post YO Cutie Gwen Cutie Gwen
 
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Dude.

I did another Fire Emblem Heroes pull.

Guess what I got?

ANOTHER BRAVE HERO LUCINA.

Less exciting the second time but I also got a five star Kagero which is neat.

I don't actually know if I should start raising this new Lucina or the old one.

How can you determine IVs in this game?

The online calculator makes no sense to me.
 

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Dude.

I did another Fire Emblem Heroes pull.

Guess what I got?

ANOTHER BRAVE HERO LUCINA.

Less exciting the second time but I also got a five star Kagero which is neat.

I don't actually know if I should start raising this new Lucina or the old one.

How can you determine IVs in this game?

The online calculator makes no sense to me.
How it works is that to determine a character's boon and bane stats is that once you get your character, you take their Level 1 base stats displayed on the status screen and compare them to their neutral base stats. Brave Lucina has 17 HP, 8 Atk (subtract her weapon's 16 MT from the value displayed), 10 Spd, 8 Def, and 4 Res, so any stat that is lower then her neutral base would be her bane while any stat that is higher would be her boon. So for instance, if she had 18 HP and 3 Res, HP would've been her boon and Res would've been her bane.

A great resource for determining these is FE Heroes gamepedia as they keep the bases and their variations for both Lv. 1 and 40 stats for every character, hers are right here: https://feheroes.gamepedia.com/Lucina_(Brave_Heroes)

Also, congrats on the Lucina!
 
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How it works is that to determine a character's boon and bane stats is that once you get your character, you take their Level 1 base stats displayed on the status screen and compare them to their neutral base stats. Brave Lucina has 17 HP, 8 Atk (subtract her weapon's 16 MT from the value displayed), 10 Spd, 8 Def, and 4 Res, so any stat that is lower then her neutral base would be her bane while any stat that is higher would be her boon. So for instance, if she had 18 HP and 3 Res, HP would've been her boon and Res would've been her bane.

A great resource for determining these is FE Heroes gamepedia as they keep the bases and their variations for both Lv. 1 and 40 stats for every character, hers are right here: https://feheroes.gamepedia.com/Lucina_(Brave_Heroes)
Alright...

So this new unit has....

17 Health which is standard.
9 Attack which is high.
9 Speed which is low.
8 Defense which is standard.
4 Resistance which is standard.

So + Attack, - Speed.

Dunno if that is good for Brave Lucina.
 

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Dragon Ball Super was ok this week, the previous ep set the bar too high.

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-Expects rad Tien episode, dude gets Resurrection F'd
-No Caulibae again
-Virginia returns
-FFS GOHAN, WHY YOU DIDN'T DODGE
-Piccolo losing and popping new arms like SpongeBob
-Zeno likes campers, Zeno plays CoD, Zeno gets salty, Zeno deletes everything.
-S T O P L O W E R I N G Y O U R G U A R D
-Despite the slow pace, this episode showcased a very strategical battle style nicely.
-Naruto run everywhere
-Dr. Rota's secret ability is...
-Blanka used his hacked Muk to spam Mirror Coat until Goku and Vegeta used Rock Throw
-Goku charging a Kamehameha while running is badass
-Emm, Tien, you could have left a clone on the ring to remain in the game... I dunno if that could work tho...
-Good guy Beerus for complimenting Tien despite his flop.
-tfw the next ep looks intense af but you have to wait two weeks

THOT PATROL

MVP of the week: Vegeta because he didn't ****ed around.
 

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It looks like Robotnik upside down to me
I didn't realise it was until reading your post.

I honestly thought it was a new character until I scrolled down just a bit further. xD
 

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Ya dun goofed tagging Gwen about anything Kamen Rider related. Now you'll never hear the end of her persistently obsessed rambling.
DID SOMEONE SAY KAMEN RIDER?
CAUSE THE FIRST EPISODE OF BUILD IS OUT
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YEAAH SCIENCE! JUST WHEN I THOUGHT CHIBIS WERE THE MOST RIDICULOUS THINGS IN THE FRANCHISE
 

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I beat Lyn's story.

That was really sweet.
 

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Did anyone hear the theory they've revealed which of Team 7 are going to be eliminated in what order in the opening credit scene?

If next episode a certain person gets eliminated, either it will be a coincidence with the first 3 or it may just be true

Dragon Ball Super
 
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Random Pokemon realization. I knew Chesnaught lost Spiky Shield as its signature move thanks to Togedemaru, but I didn't realize Delphox and Greninja lost theirs as well.

I'm only just learning Accelgor now gets Water Shuriken and Mismagius gets Mystical Fire.
Also to note is that one signature move was Physical, one was Special, and the other one was Status. Water Shuriken became Special though.
It's a gimmicky thing to give other Pokemon the signature moves of the starters.
All of the Kalos ones lost that status(except Greninja's Mat Block) in ORAS where Cacturne got Spiky Shield alongside the other two moveset additions you mentioned.
I forgot which one, but either Sawk or Throh can use Mat Block.
 

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I still think it's weird they gave Heatmor a signature move in gen VII too.
 
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I still think it's weird they gave Heatmor a signature move in gen VII too.
Especially as it wasn't even obtainable in Alola.

Krookodile got Power Trip as a signature move in VII too, although it can be bred onto Mankey and Pancham.
 

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Especially as it wasn't even obtainable in Alola.

Krookodile got Power Trip as a signature move in VII too, although it can be bred onto Mankey and Pancham.
Ariados got Toxic Thread as well, but it's still available in Alola too.

Oh Heatmor...how I wish you were better.
 

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Oh Heatmor...how I wish you were better.
There's a lot of Pokemon I wish were better. Hell, I'm sure I could make a list if I tried.

Actually screw it, why not.

By generation:
Gen I: Flareon
Gen II: Meganium
Gen III: Flygon
Gen IV: Luxray
Gen V: Basculin
Gen VI: Avalugg
Gen VII: Lycanroc
 
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I have never heard of an instance where waifus chose people outside of fanfics and Russia.

Speaking of Russia, Zarya is really ****ing hot both physically and mechanically. I mean big guns and big guns? :drfacepalm:

1000% sure she's generally everyone's waifu.

I know someone who went gay for Mei. No joke.

Funny that I'm talking so much about Overwatch when I only played it like twice. :T
Mei ain't my waifu. Mercy is my waifu. She is the best, and has the best skins.
 

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Alright...

So this new unit has....

17 Health which is standard.
9 Attack which is high.
9 Speed which is low.
8 Defense which is standard.
4 Resistance which is standard.

So + Attack, - Speed.

Dunno if that is good for Brave Lucina.
-Spd kind of sucks for her; if the other one is neutral or even +Spd, I would go with that one, and use the -Spd one for skill inheritance or merging. For any of the three summonable Lucinas, I would say +Spd is the best boon for her; even +Spd -Atk is still good since she will still hit very hard.

I got her myself earlier, actually, also as -Spd, and it's tricky to make her work because 33 Spd is fairly slow compared to a lot of higher-level content, and she's not the bulkiest either so tanking hits and countering with Quick Riposte doesn't work out as well on her. I ended up giving my one Life and Death and Swordbreaker to fix her doubling issues, but I don't really like eating into her defences so I'm looking for something else that might work (before anyone mentions it, I don't have any Fury fodder to spare at the moment). But for me, it's better to have her than not have her, and I think I can still make her work either way.
 

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I wish Skuntank was better. It's not really that tanky for something with tank in its name.

Also Garbodor sucks.
 

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Jesus, I just got done with a lot of paperwork and you know, life is just generally confusing as hell. Everything I read in that pamphlet did not make a single sense to me. And you know, I may not be smart, and I accept that, but at least I try. Its all I can do.

So yeah. My day ****ing tanked. We'll see how the rest of the week goes.
 

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Mei ain't my waifu. Mercy is my waifu. She is the best, and has the best skins.
I really like Mercy too~♪

Also I want to correct myself about Mei. I didn't know people hated her so much. I just saw a video with a Bastion player getting stomped by Mei and it just looked incredibly painful.
 

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Jesus, I just got done with a lot of paperwork and you know, life is just generally confusing as hell. Everything I read in that pamphlet did not make a single sense to me. And you know, I may not be smart, and I accept that, but at least I try. Its all I can do.

So yeah. My day ****ing tanked. We'll see how the rest of the week goes.
Being an adult sucks, my man, it sucks
 

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I really like Mercy too~♪

Also I want to correct myself about Mei. I didn't know people hated her so much. I just saw a video with a Bastion player getting stomped by Mei and it just looked incredibly painful.
Oh yeah **** Mei I've only ever seen her used to troll her own team.
 

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So the Favorite Pokémon of Each Type picker released some statistics. It says the top five of each type, as well as the bottom two of each. I'll edit in an analysis I found.
 

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Do they give out purple hearts in the Splatoon universe? Do inklings ever lose legs from Ink mines?
Turf War seems pretty casual for that.

I'd guess the Great Turf War had some rough situations and handed out medals like that, but that was a century ago.
 

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So funny enough when I went to copy/paste the analysis and credit the redditor who did it, it turned out it was @Delzethin haha.

Here's his analysis.

Interesting stuff here:

  • With only one exception, the top mons of each type are either highly prominent (starter, Eeveelution, Lucario archetype) or really powerful ingame and/or competitively. The sole outlier? Luxray, often cited as a mon people wish was more of a competitive force. Hold out for Luxraium Z, guys.

  • Gengar is the only mon to top the chart in both of its types, though Crobat is breathing down its neck in Poison.

  • Ranks 2-5 in Fairy all show up in the top 5 in their other type as well. Ranks 2-4 in Steel do the same.

  • The entirety of the Top 5 in Grass is starters. Compare that to two each in Fire and Water.

  • Speaking of which, Charizard actually isn't running away with Fire, holding the tiniest of leads over Arcanine, of all things. Either there's been some vote skewing, or people really like their doggos.

  • The single most lopsided type shouldn't surprise anyone. Between its regular (#1) and Mega (#2) forms, Lucario has 20.7% of the Fighting votes. Runner-up Blaziken doesn't even have 1/4 of that!

  • Speaking of multi-form mons, the Lycanrocs took 2nd and 3rd in a type that admittedly doesn't have a whole lot of standouts. If you were to combine them, they'd have 12.6% of the Rock vote, a greater percent than the top vote getter in 13 of the 18 types. Still wouldn't take Rock's top spot, though; the perennial competitive force that is Tyranitar still rules that roost.

  • Gen 7 as a whole has a really good showing. In addition to the Lycanrocs, Decidueye sits at 2nd in Grass behind only Sceptile, Silvally took 4th in Normal, Salazzle got 4th herself in Poison, and Mimikyu took 2nd in Ghost and Fairy. But the best showing of them? Alolan Ninetales, taking the top spot as the new favorite Ice type while also sneaking into Fairy as well!

  • Despite how often we see people trying to pigeonhole the Dark type, the top four Dark mons are all non-malicious. One of them's even outright benevolent!

  • Eeveelutions turned out in spades, with four taking 1st in their type and three others sitting at 3rd in theirs! Leafeon and Flareon are the only ones missing, though it likely has to do with how competitive their types are.

  • Meanwhile, not a single legendary took first in their type, and only seven have showed up at all! The highest up is Lugia, 2nd place in Flying behind early route powerhouse Staraptor.

  • Only two base form mons made the cut. Eevee took the top spot in Normal--no surprise there--but the eyebrow-raiser is Bulbasaur somehow getting to 3rd in Grass. Where's the rest of its line? Where're Charmander and Squirtle? Good questions.

  • Three middle stagers made it in. Pikachu is, once again, no surprise, but Haunter snuck in at 5th in Ghost and Dragonair made it all the way to 3rd in the tough room that is the Dragon type! Interestingly, their final forms are both 1st in those types.
And finally:

  • Every single one of the cellar dwellers is either not fully evolved or an alternate form. It's not that they're hated, they've just been forgotten.
 

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So funny enough when I went to copy/paste the analysis and credit the redditor who did it, it turned out it was @Delzethin haha.

Here's his analysis.
The last point was my takeaway too.

All that crying about inanimate object Pokemon and the only ones that even showed up are ones people don't even complain about.

. . .I feel bad for Ferroseed, Binacle, and Pupitar.
 

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So the Favorite Pokémon of Each Type picker released some statistics. It says the top five of each type, as well as the bottom two of each. I'll edit in an analysis I found.
To see where my picks landed....

Grass-Sceptile-1
Fire-Typhlosion-3
Psychic-Alakazam-3
Fighting-Heracross-4
Rock-Lycanroc (Midday)-2
Ground-Garchomp-2
Bug-Scizor-1
Poison-Nidoking-3
Steel-Metagross-1
Dragon-Salamence-5
Fairy-Ninetales (Alola)-5

None were bottom dwellers it seems....speaking of bottom dwellers, poor Barbaoch...
 

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To see where my picks landed....

Grass-Sceptile-1
Fire-Typhlosion-3
Psychic-Alakazam-3
Fighting-Heracross-4
Rock-Lycanroc (Midday)-2
Ground-Garchomp-2
Bug-Scizor-1
Poison-Nidoking-3
Steel-Metagross-1
Dragon-Salamence-5
Fairy-Ninetales (Alola)-5

None were bottom dwellers it seems....speaking of bottom dwellers, poor Barbaoch...
Most of mine didn't place, haha. :p

Didn't Place:
Grass - Sawsbuck
Water - Qwilfish
Normal - Castform
Rock - Sudowoodo
Ground - Marowak
Flying - Toucannon
Psychic - Sigilyph
Fighting - Breloom
Poison - Venusaur
Ghost - Trevenant
Ice - Walrein
Dragon - Altaria
Steel - Klefki
Dark - Shiftry
Fairy - Ribombee


The only two that made their top fives were:
Luxray - Number 1 in Electric
Chandelure - Number 5 in Fire (and also 3 in Ghost lol)
 
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There's a lot of Pokemon I wish were better. Hell, I'm sure I could make a list if I tried.

Actually screw it, why not.

By generation:
Gen I: Flareon
Gen II: Meganium
Gen III: Flygon
Gen IV: Luxray
Gen V: Basculin
Gen VI: Avalugg
Gen VII: Lycanroc
I'll join in on this. Got two for each. Except the last gen.

Gen I: Raichu (Original), Vaporeon
Gen II: Typhlosion, Ampharos
Gen III: Linoone, Zangoose
Gen IV: Lucario, Dusknoir
Gen V: Simisage, Galvantula
Gen VI: Meowstic, Noivern
Gen VII: Basically everything except Legendaries, UBs and Toxapex.
 

Ivander

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I really like Mercy too~♪

Also I want to correct myself about Mei. I didn't know people hated her so much. I just saw a video with a Bastion player getting stomped by Mei and it just looked incredibly painful.
Trust me. There is a big difference between outright hating her and finding her very frustrating to play against and with sometimes. Lots of people actually like her character story and character-wise and the Mei Short helped that even more, but the idea of Mei being Satan, her innocence being a ploy, her being a pain to fight by yourself, the whole deal of some ally Meis trolling their teams are just used regarding her gameplay, not her character.
Basically, when a bad Mei is around, it's very noticeable and frustrating for those on her team. But when a good Mei is around, the team she's on does a 180 mood shift very quickly and she becomes awesome to them.
 

Coricus

Woom-em-my?
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I'll join in on this. Got two for each. Except the last gen.

Gen I: Raichu (Original), Vaporeon
Gen II: Typhlosion, Ampharos
Gen III: Linoone, Zangoose
Gen IV: Lucario, Dusknoir
Gen V: Simisage, Galvantula
Gen VI: Meowstic, Noivern
Gen VII: Basically everything except Legendaries, UBs and Toxapex.
I have three favorite Pokemon. One's on your list, one is Glaceon who has a good offensive type and attack power but also a weak type and too middling of a speed to use it regardless of set, and Aurorus is. . .hahahahahahah

. . .Although considering that common choice, isn't Luc at least functional meta wise? I thought he still managed to squeak some use in through being a curveball from what little I've overheard from competitives. I mean he's not some kind of Garchomp, but he's at least functional unlike 90% of all other Pokemon, right?
 
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