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[praline]

Man Genny kinda sucks in Fire Emblem Heroes.

 

[powerprotoman]

Man Genny kinda sucks in Fire Emblem Heroes.

people dont use genny....outside of skill inheritence

 

[ChikoLad]

Man Genny kinda sucks in Fire Emblem Heroes.

I think you're just not ready to roll.

 

[praline]

people dont use genny....outside of skill inheritence

I'm only using her until I get enough to promote Serra to a 5 star.

Maybe I should use Sakura... pretty sure I have her.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Glad to hear ARMS is doing well. Hope to see Nintendo continue to push new IPs.

 

[A Distant Demon]

What context did that get spawned from again?

Also holy **** Serris from Metroid Fusion is a lot harder than I remembered. I also killed it only to get killed by the Core X. fml

i was worried that echoes wpuld be over reworked and that there would still be reason to play gaiden instead of SoV being the definitive version

 

[Opossum]

people dont use genny....outside of skill inheritence

Do not insult the cinnamon sheep.

 

[AmericanDJ]

What context did that get spawned from again?

I believe he meant to say "not over reworked", and he was talking about FE Echoes in comparison to Gaiden
Edit: 'd

 

[Erureido]

So, I've seen people discuss certain aspect of Echoes's plot in this thread like Celica, the Masked Knight and what I call "the great *** kissing of Berkut(&Fernand)", but I haven't seen anyone talk about Rudolph.
So I wanna know what those who have played SoV think of Rudolph and his motivation...

Spoiler

...and his plan too.
I see a lot of division on whether he was a sympathetic mastermind villain or an idiot "as big as Celica" who started a pointless conflict.

I'll give my own thoughts later.

Spoiler: Echoes spoilers

I see Rudolph as both a sympathetic mastermind and one with a very risky goal.

On the one hand, Rudolph was sympathetic by sending away his son Alm to Sir Mycen because he knew that the Duma Faithful would try to murder Alm when he was an infant (Alm was the child of prophecy after all). In later years, Rudolph's rein of tyranny and conquest was done in a way so that Alm would eventually fight it off, be viewed as a hero for overthrowing that tyranny, and then starting a new, peaceful rule. That final scene where Rudolph reveals the truth to Alm made me feel sympathetic for both, but I guess another reason why I felt that way was because of the stellar voice-acting and the emotional music.

On the other hand, Rudolph's was pretty risky the more you think about it. This guy was really banking hard on Alm winning all those battles and arriving at Rigel Castle for that final battle. What would've happened if Alm was killed before he reached the castle? That would've completely ruined Rudolph's plans. Also, now that I think about it, what was stopping Rudolph from killing Duma himself? If he knew the dragons were going mad and had to be put down for a new era for mankind to rule, why didn't he do the slaying instead? Was it because Duma has some kind of magical armor where the only people that can truly slay him in the end are brand-bearers? The game definitely should've elaborated on that aspect of Rudolph's goals.

One other complaint I have about Rudolph was that he appears very little during the main story. We only see him at the end of Act 1 talking with Massena, in a flashback cutscene where he captures Mila, a memory scene where he gives the infant Alm to Sir Mycen, and then the battle against him in Act 4 and that's it. For a character who is supposed to be one of the main antagonists in the story, he appears very little. I really wish we had more scenes of Rudolph so that we could take him seriously for a villain.

So you could say Rudolph was more a mixed bag for me. I understand where his motivations were coming from, but I do find holes in them as well. I will say though, he is definitely a far better villain than the likes of Garon, Iago, Hans, Validar, and Grima, all of which were disappointing main antagonists from the past 3DS games because of how cartoonishly evil they were.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

i was worried that echoes wpuld be over reworked and that there would still be reason to play gaiden instead of SoV being the definitive version

'wpuld'. You did it again :D

Sonic movie's been delayed till 2019. I honestly wonder what the ****'s going on with that

 

[Robertman2]

'wpuld'. You did it again :D

Sonic movie's been delayed till 2019. I honestly wonder what the ****'s going on with that

Source on the delay?

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Sonic movie's been delayed till 2019. I honestly wonder what the ****'s going on with that

Could be going into development hell.

Hopefully they'll ditch the live-action element and make it fully animated.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Could be going into development hell.

Hopefully they'll ditch the live-action element and make it fully animated.

What do you mean 'could' It's ALWAYS been through development hell

Source on the delay?

GamesIndustry had an interview about SEGA Forever

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

What do you mean 'could' It's ALWAYS been through development hell

I'm more talking going into serious development hell, like how long it took to make a fourth Jurassic Park movie. Rather than "stumble for a few years but eventually find its footing."

 

[ChikoLad]

I highly doubt the movie is going through development hell.

I think they just announced it far too early. I mean it was basically just an idea, we don't know anything about it other than it's live-action/CGI hybrid, and a few people who were working on it.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'm more talking going into serious development hell, like how long it took to make a fourth Jurassic Park movie. Rather than "stumble for a few years but eventually find its footing."

They've been working on it since 2012 iirc

 

[Aetheri]

Played the Ever Oasis demo...

It's not a bad little RPG tbh...looks like it's got some decent exploration and puzzle solving...soundtrack isn't bad either...
Combat is alright, not the greatest but it works...

With that said however I don't think it's a title I'd pick up unless I was more financially sound, and even still it'd be way down my priority list...

I think it's obvious what my top priority for the 3DS is...

 

[Deleted member]

wpuld

Never change, Zebei, never change

Spoiler: Echoes spoilers

I see Rudolph as both a sympathetic mastermind and one with a very risky goal.

On the one hand, Rudolph was sympathetic by sending away his son Alm to Sir Mycen because he knew that the Duma Faithful would try to murder Alm when he was an infant (Alm was the child of prophecy after all). In later years, Rudolph's rein of tyranny and conquest was done in a way so that Alm would eventually fight it off, be viewed as a hero for overthrowing that tyranny, and then starting a new, peaceful rule. That final scene where Rudolph reveals the truth to Alm made me feel sympathetic for both, but I guess another reason why I felt that way was because of the stellar voice-acting and the emotional music.

On the other hand, Rudolph's was pretty risky the more you think about it. This guy was really banking hard on Alm winning all those battles and arriving at Rigel Castle for that final battle. What would've happened if Alm was killed before he reached the castle? That would've completely ruined Rudolph's plans. Also, now that I think about it, what was stopping Rudolph from killing Duma himself? If he knew the dragons were going mad and had to be put down for a new era for mankind to rule, why didn't he do the slaying instead? Was it because Duma has some kind of magical armor where the only people that can truly slay him in the end are brand-bearers? The game definitely should've elaborated on that aspect of Rudolph's goals.

One other complaint I have about Rudolph was that he appears very little during the main story. We only see him at the end of Act 1 talking with Massena, in a flashback cutscene where he captures Mila, a memory scene where he gives the infant Alm to Sir Mycen, and then the battle against him in Act 4 and that's it. For a character who is supposed to be one of the main antagonists in the story, he appears very little. I really wish we had more scenes of Rudolph so that we could take him seriously for a villain.

So you could say Rudolph was more a mixed bag for me. I understand where his motivations were coming from, but I do find holes in them as well. I will say though, he is definitely a far better villain than the likes of Garon, Iago, Hans, Validar, and Grima, all of which were disappointing main antagonists from the past 3DS games because of how cartoonishly evil they were.

Spoiler

While he wanted Alm to get to him and kill him, that wasn't what he was banking on: either Rudolph was successful and conquered all of Valentia, unifying it or died by Alm's hand who would slay Duma and then unite Valentia(to note is that he had no way to know Celica and Alm were going to fall in love so the "marriage of both brand bearers" wasn't something he thought would happen)
Granted, the fact he's "destined to save Valentia" could mean Rudolph simply assumed he codn't die before slaying Duma, so he banked on that

Also, killing Duma himself would be suicidal: he loses the Duma Faithful who would all want him dead and his people start believing he's betraying Rigel.
Sealing Mila first starts a war with Zofia that has the backup from the general populace and the Duma Church, while instigating Alm to go to war in the first place.

All things considered, Rudolph could and would still slay Duma should Alm have died(if the Falchion wasn't sealed that is).

Also also, he does get more scenes than that: the scene where Berkut asks for a second chance after Gazelle's map and after the Act 3 finale.
He gets more than enough "villain scenes" for someone who doesn't leave his castle. If he was actually a villain, we would likely have seen more of him, maybe even a "final boss preview" of him in one of the earlier maps like Desaix during Act 1

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

They've been working on it since 2012 iirc

It was first announced in 2014.

I never considered it in full development hell, just still in pre-production. Being delayed into 2019 and the fact we don't have a cast announced yet makes me feel the movie is going through some changes.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

My friend come back from her vacation and instantly invited me out to see Capt. underpants with her little bro and sis.

Sometimes good things do happen to me, it seems

 

[Robertman2]

My friend come back from her vacation and instantly invited me out to see Capt. underpants with her little bro and sis.

Sometimes good things do happen to me, it seems

You know, that reminds me

Captain Underpants and Persona 5 have similar plots

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

You know, that reminds me

Captain Underpants and Persona 5 have similar plots

what? Oh god now Im very interested in Capt. underpants

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

What do you mean 'could' It's ALWAYS been through development hell

GamesIndustry had an interview about SEGA Forever

Hopefully it'll stay there. At least until they figure out that those animated in a live action world movies, the name of those escape me, are almost never good. There hasn't even been many but all of them with the exception of Who Framed Roger Rabbit are pretty mediocre to bad.

 

[Opossum]

So I'm late to the party and only just found out that the next voting gauntlet in Fire Emblem Heroes is a Healer Gauntlet.

I'm hoping Genny's in it so I have a better chance to pull her. If she's not I'll probably support Lissa since she'll inevitably be in it.

 

[Chrono.]

This was posted last week, guy is supposedly credible. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239812575&postcount=1224

In short you can expect for DBFZ:
- 20-25 characters max, not counting clones
- DLC is planned (knowing ArcSys tho expect the large majority of it to be cosmetics with like 2-3 characters)
- Smaller movesets to compensate for 3v3 (which we already know)

 

[smashkirby]

Every SEGA system from Master System to Dreamcast.

Really?? So, I could play the ENTIRE Sonic trilogy and Knuckles, as well as Adventure and Adventure 2? I also heard that Arle Nadja (the main protagonist of the Puyo Puyo series) was name-dropped. Hopefully, I'll get to play the original 4 Puyo games as a result.

 

[ChikoLad]

This is the most important status meter in all of video games.

 

[Chrono.]

Oh yeah, SEGA Forever ports could eventually come to Facebook and Switch.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

SEGA Forever does sound pretty neat. I'll probably wait until it comes to a console though.

 

[ChikoLad]

Really?? So, I could play the ENTIRE Sonic trilogy and Knuckles, as well as Adventure and Adventure 2? I also heard that Arle Nadja (the main protagonist of the Puyo Puyo series) was name-dropped. Hopefully, I'll get to play the original 4 Puyo games as a result.

It depends on what SEGA decides to put on the service. But they did say it will have games from every SEGA console, and they mentioned Saturn and Dreamcast by name in the press release.

Apparently it also supports "SG-1000" games, which is something I haven't even heard of. Maybe it's an old arcade game framework?

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Apparently it also supports "SG-1000" games, which is something I haven't even heard of. Maybe it's an old arcade game framework?

SG-1000 was SEGA's very first console.

 

[Robertman2]

what? Oh god now Im very interested in Capt. underpants

They're both about students who fight back against corrupt adults in their lives by using mind ****.

 

[praline]

So I'm late to the party and only just found out that the next voting gauntlet in Fire Emblem Heroes is a Healer Gauntlet.

I'm hoping Genny's in it so I have a better chance to pull her. If she's not I'll probably support Lissa since she'll inevitably be in it.

Serra is the best healer, boy.

 

[Opossum]

Serra is the best healer, boy.

Sheep are better than triceratops.

 

[praline]

Sheep are better than triceratops.

Ok now you've lost me.

 

[Opossum]

Ok now you've lost me.

Sound it out.

 

[praline]

Sound it out.

Yeah that didn't really help.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Yeah that didn't really help.

Tri-SERRA-tops is what he's going for, I think.

 

[praline]

Tri-SERRA-tops is what he's going for, I think.

Oh. lol

But then what's this about sheep?

 

[Wario Bros.]

Great to hear ARMS is doing well.