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[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Johnny's accidental speed run strats in Rayman Legends are amazing.

That had me laughing pretty hard when that happened. I love when BrainScratch does live playthroughs.

Daisy : "Did you forget about me?" pic.twitter.com/nqPXZwwvpa

— KTH (@kth_ssbb) June 6, 2016

Why is KTH so damn god-like.

It's rough around the edges, but I could see this looking pretty good with improvements.

 

[Champ Gold]

This is how I feel every time I see a conversation about the Sonic series pop up.

I actually believe the haters got more annoying than the fans with that series comes into play.


I still believe it's mostly Nintendo fans with their hardcore bias.

 

[Chrono.]

I actually believe the haters got more annoying than the fans with that series comes into play.


I still believe it's mostly Nintendo fans with their hardcore bias.

SEGA vs Nintendo somehow still lives on.

 

[Champ Gold]

SEGA vs Nintendo somehow still lives on.

It'll ever die.

It's like Marvel vs DC.

Even if they merge into one brand, they'll still be wars

 

[ChikoLad]

The only thing that really bothers me still in the Sonic fanbase from what I see, is people saying that Sonic needs to "go back to it's roots and not re-invent itself all of the time", then they post their idea for a new Sonic game, and it's literally a re-invention/reboot.

I think Sonic just needs to balance the two. The best period of Sonic's career after the Classic games, objectively, was the "Unleashed Trilogy". Unleashed, Colours, and Generations, had gameplay mechanics that were consistent, but the three games also did their own things. Sonic had a clear identity during this time, and the reception to these games showed that. People knew what Sonic was about - fast and fun platforming.

Since Generations though, they have been experimenting a bit too much. Sonic Boom is it's own thing so I don't mind that, they were explicit about how it's a new branch of the franchise that will co-exist with the main series, and will be different from the main series, and I don't mind that. Granted, Rise of Lyric was still a terrible game regardless of that, and Shattered Crystal was "just OK". But I don't mind Sonic Boom being drastically different.

The problem comes in when Lost World was also experimental. And I don't mean in how it changed the gameplay from Generations (which was gonna get stale eventually - especially for people with the PC version, with it's mods). What I mean is, Lost World had a really cool idea for a new gameplay style, and there are points in the game where it's really well implemented. I honestly think Lost World's controls are fine and only need a bit of fine tuning. However, the game flung you into forced and clunky 2D sections, snowball mini-games, intrusive pinball mini-games, and all of that, giving little room for it's core gameplay to shine. And it isn't like a Classic Spyro game where at least the mini-games are fun and polished and often optional, they are mediocre and boring and mandatory.

I like Lost World, but it had a lot of problems, and it's main issue is that it sort of took Sonic Team's "over-experimentalness" that they have demonstrated across the 2004-2007 period, and represented it in a single game.

IMO, the next Sonic game needs to pay homage to the past of the franchise and bring back certain elements that people liked about past games. But it also needs to be ambitious. Generations is one of my favourite games, but it wasn't ambitious at all. It completely pandered to nostalgia, and that was fine because it's what the series needed at the time, and the game was cut and dry about it. But the next game needs some of the general consistency and simplicity and old-school feel of the Classics/Generations, mixed with the modern ambition of games like Unleashed. And I have confidence that it will achieve that, as it has been in development for a while.

 

[Jaedrik]

The idea of "faith" is literally believing something without the facts being known.

I wanted to stay out of the discussion until I read this.
Ancient Greek for "faith," pisti, does not carry the connotation you attach to it, nor does the Hebrew.
It means trust and belief in the Greek, and steadfastness in the Hebrew. I steadfastly trust in the existence of gravity, say, or my own person, or this message board. This is faith.
People only understand "faith" nowadays as you describe due to poor Christians, philosophy, theology, linguistics etc.
If you want to talk about standards of evidence for things, that's unrelated to 'faith' except concerning whether faith is founded soundly or not.

Seldom affirm, never deny, always distinguish. - Scholar's mantra.

 

[ChikoLad]

I wanted to stay out of the discussion until I read this.
Ancient Greek for "faith," pisti, does not carry the connotation you attach to it, nor does the Hebrew fides.
It means trust and belief in the Greek, and steadfastness in the Hebrew. I steadfastly trust in the existence of gravity, say, or my own person, or this message board. This is faith.
People only understand "faith" nowadays as you describe due to poor Christians, philosophy, theology, linguistics etc.
Now, if you want to talk about standards of evidence for things, that's unrelated to 'faith' except concerning whether faith is founded soundly or not.

Ancient Greek definition =/= today's definition.

Meanings of words, images, and symbols, change all of the time.

 

[FalKoopa]

I wanted to stay out of the discussion until I read this.
Ancient Greek for "faith," pisti, does not carry the connotation you attach to it, nor does the Hebrew אמונה.
It means trust and belief in the Greek, and steadfastness in the Hebrew. I steadfastly trust in the existence of gravity, say, or my own person, or this message board. This is faith.
People only understand "faith" nowadays as you describe due to poor Christians, philosophy, theology, linguistics etc.
If you want to talk about standards of evidence for things, that's unrelated to 'faith' except concerning whether faith is founded soundly or not.

Seldom affirm, never deny, always distinguish. - Scholar's mantra.

Word meanings and connotations can vary wildly between languages, even close ones.

A good example is 'Chef' which is associated with cooking in English, but literally means 'chief' in its original French.

 

[Jaedrik]

Ancient Greek definition =/= today's definition.

Meanings of words, images, and symbols, change all of the time.

Language is organic and emergent, I know. I'm glad it can't be controlled. You should ask yourself why I typed what I did understanding this.
The objective of such linguistic distinctions on my part is to get at what people mean by what they say, and why they say.
My point is this. Once, in English, faith used to mean much more closely to the Greek. Tradition has passed down faith as general belief with one set of connotations, but tradition is fallible and, I believe due to the general movement towards mysticism encouraged by the 'enlightenment' and its philosophers on protestant faiths, morphed to separate connotations. So, the children of those who once understood use the term blindly, thinking it always was so, and argue the same positions as their forefathers without understanding and so lead themselves and others to error. But, some of us remain, so I caution the dismissal of all people or arguments which use the word "faith" by relying on the more common connotation for interpreting what they mean.

Again, always distinguish. What do people mean? Understanding is too often taken for granted.

 

[countchrisdo]

That taking Melee to prom tweet I posted earlier just got retweeted by Nintendo of America.

Nintendo loves their single fans.

Lol I'm the guy who took melee to prom. Seriously it was awesome, afterwards they dm-ed me and gave me free tickets to E3

 

[ChikoLad]

I didn't say anything about the word never having a different meaning, I only used it in it's current, common context.

Trust is the act of believing something to be true.

Proof and Evidence are tools we use to prove our statements true without question.

Faith is trusting someone or something, regardless of the absence or presence of proof or evidence. Faith is normally born from doubt, ironically - if someone perceives someone as telling the truth and killing doubts multiple times using facts and evidence, people begin believing what they say without the need to present evidence or proof. Faith is really a feeling more than it is a logical action. For example, when you let your best friend into your house, they could intend to stab you, for all you know, and you technically cannot prove otherwise (because intent is one of the hardest things to prove before somebody has carried out an action). However, being your best friend, they have proven multiple times that they are trustworthy and have put to rest any doubts you have had on previous occasions. So naturally, you have faith in them, and tend to trust them without needing an explanation or logical reason to.

That's what faith generally means today. It may have meant something different in the past and been more synonymous with trust. But it has taken on a more unique meaning in most societies now.

 

[countchrisdo]

Pretty sure this was designed to be a Melee Hell ****post.

That's exactly what it was

 

[Chrono.]

Lol I'm the guy who took melee to prom. Seriously it was awesome, afterwards they dm-ed me and gave me free tickets to E3

See, if I'd have done that I would've been kicked out and suspended.

 

[countchrisdo]

Why? lol it's just a disk

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Why? lol it's just a disk

You're not supposed to show "naked, round things" in public.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Lol I'm the guy who took melee to prom. Seriously it was awesome, afterwards they dm-ed me and gave me free tickets to E3

Didn't expect this... But wow! E3 for free? Lucky dawg!

Hope what I posted wasn't too harsh. Embarrass I was just finding this unusual.

 

[Chrono.]

So, Ubisoft did this.

Spoiler

Because they're clever, or something.

 

[Z25]

It'll ever die.

It's like Marvel vs DC.

Even if they merge into one brand, they'll still be wars

The marvel storylines will obviously be better then the DC ones if they merge

 

[Substitution]

So, Ubisoft did this.

Spoiler

Because they're clever, or something.

Better joke than anything in Watchdogs (why are they making a new Watchdogs I don't get it).

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

So, either the park I walk at has more mosquito's this year

Or I've become extremely attractive to mosquito's recently for some reason

Because for a mile in and back of a my 4 mile walk it's mosquito city

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Well it's still a WIP, and he made a post earlier about how crazy Peach's face models are.

It should also be noted that some models are in sync with their voice clips. I replaced Fox's Smash Wii U voice clips with his Brawl voice clips, and I ended up getting him with his mouth hanging open whenever certain voice clips get played.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I just finished watching ShayMay's Sonic Spitball series. If anyone is a fan of the series, I highly recommend you give them a watch. They bring up some really good points, and even if I don't agree with him at points, he presents it in a way that makes me want to listen to his argument and think about it, rather than write it off completely. He knows that his ideas and opinions shouldn't be ones most people should agree with, and at least keeps the very core of the franchise in mind. Unlike this video with a similar topic, while I mean no disrespect to the guy who made this, he is proposing changes that make Sonic the exact opposite of what he is.

He even gives his idea for what a 3D Sonic game should be like, and while there are some things I disagree with (no voice acting, Sonic being able to turn into a drill underwater), I would more than happily play a 3D Sonic game like what he proposed.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I just finished watching ShayMay's Sonic Spitball series. If anyone is a fan of the series, I highly recommend you give them a watch. They bring up some really good points, and even if I don't agree with him at points, he presents it in a way that makes me want to listen to his argument and think about it, rather than write it off completely. He knows that his ideas and opinions shouldn't be ones most people should agree with, and at least keeps the very core of the franchise in mind. Unlike this video with a similar topic, while I mean no disrespect to the guy who made this, he is proposing changes that make Sonic the exact opposite of what he is.

He even gives his idea for what a 3D Sonic game should be like, and while there are some things I disagree with (no voice acting, Sonic being able to turn into a drill underwater), I would more than happily play a 3D Sonic game like what he proposed.

His "New Design" of Sonic is stupid

 

[Swamp Sensei]

His Sonic game doesn't even sound like the old Sonic games.

Which I think he was trying to emulate.

It's this weird Sonic Metroidvania fusion.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I posted how his design of Sonic NEEDS the gloves, because the arms, hands and body just kind of blend together making a blue blob of a mess

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

So, either the park I walk at has more mosquito's this year

Or I've become extremely attractive to mosquito's recently for some reason

Because for a mile in and back of a my 4 mile walk it's mosquito city

Your blood is just simply tasty. Better than having vampires after you, at least. That tends to leave you in a far worse shape than just a bite/scratching.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Your blood is just simply tasty. Better than having vampires after you, at least. That tends to leave you in a far worse shape than just a bite/scratching.

I have O blood, and I heard that mosquito's love O blood.

But, I didn't attract them last year.

Last year I walked with my dog though. Perhaps the dog was attracting them stronger than me. She's become paralyzed since last year

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I have O blood, and I heard that mosquito's love O blood.

But, I didn't attract them last year.

Last year I walked with my dog though. Perhaps the dog was attracting them stronger than me. She's become paralyzed since last year

Your dog's scent could've rubbed off on you enough maybe?

I dunno, really. But huh on the blood thing. I didn't know that.

 

[Chrono.]

So I started Mother 1 (playing that 25th Anniversary mod, because I'm not a masochist) and Jesus, I'm kinda lost on what I'm supposed to do at all.

I guess that's the point, but I'm off to a very slow start and apparently it's possible to go anywhere in my current state. I kinda dig the atmosphere, but I find hilarious that the game starts with your parents sending you off on a dangerous journey with no build up other than a lamp attacking you.

But hey at least I got a bat and some psychic powers, I guess.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

So I started Mother 1 (playing that 25th Anniversary mod, because I'm not a masochist) and Jesus, I'm kinda lost on what I'm supposed to do at all.

I guess that's the point, but I'm off to a very slow start and apparently it's possible to go anywhere in my current state. I kinda dig the atmosphere, but I find hilarious that the game starts with your parents sending you off on a dangerous journey with no build up other than a lamp attacking you.

But hey at least I got a bat and some psychic powers, I guess.

If you ever get in a sticky situation, low on health and stuck in the middle of nowhere

And old tactic is that the number of steps it takes to get a random encounter is reset every time you open the menu. Although the number is reset to a random number

It's possible to get back to safety by just walking a bit and opening up the menu over and over again

 

[_Silver_]

I just finished watching ShayMay's Sonic Spitball series. If anyone is a fan of the series, I highly recommend you give them a watch. They bring up some really good points, and even if I don't agree with him at points, he presents it in a way that makes me want to listen to his argument and think about it, rather than write it off completely. He knows that his ideas and opinions shouldn't be ones most people should agree with, and at least keeps the very core of the franchise in mind. Unlike this video with a similar topic, while I mean no disrespect to the guy who made this, he is proposing changes that make Sonic the exact opposite of what he is.

He even gives his idea for what a 3D Sonic game should be like, and while there are some things I disagree with (no voice acting, Sonic being able to turn into a drill underwater), I would more than happily play a 3D Sonic game like what he proposed.

Sonic has really long(er) legs. Also, why the backpack?

 

[countchrisdo]

Didn't expect this... But wow! E3 for free? Lucky dawg!

Hope what I posted wasn't too harsh. Embarrass I was just finding this unusual.

Yeah it was amazing, I wasn't expecting it at all! lol nah it's fine, what I did was pretty weird. But when I first took the pictures it was just supposed to be for Melee Hell haha

 

[Deleted member]

I just finished watching ShayMay's Sonic Spitball series. If anyone is a fan of the series, I highly recommend you give them a watch. They bring up some really good points, and even if I don't agree with him at points, he presents it in a way that makes me want to listen to his argument and think about it, rather than write it off completely. He knows that his ideas and opinions shouldn't be ones most people should agree with, and at least keeps the very core of the franchise in mind. Unlike this video with a similar topic, while I mean no disrespect to the guy who made this, he is proposing changes that make Sonic the exact opposite of what he is.

He even gives his idea for what a 3D Sonic game should be like, and while there are some things I disagree with (no voice acting, Sonic being able to turn into a drill underwater), I would more than happily play a 3D Sonic game like what he proposed.

Good to see that im not he only one who liked those videos, my favorite has to be the 2nd one that talks about narrative.

I think you should mention that the 3 videos are literally an hour long (well, an hour and a few minutes), however i honestly did enjoyed his videos and they gave me a better perspective of the Sonic Franchise's current status as a whole.


Here are the videos if anyone's interesed:
Part 1 (Gameplay Breakdown)
Part 2 (Narrative Breakdown)
Part 3 (An idea for a Possible Sonic game)

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I think you should mention that the 3 videos are literally an hour long (well, an hour and a few minutes),

Huh, I remember writing that down. Guess not.
Oops.

 

[Jaedrik]

"I just came from a meeting, today, in the situation room, in which I’ve got people who we know have been on ISIL websites living here in the United States - US citizens. And we’re allowed to put them on the no fly list when it comes to airlines, but because of the National Rifle Association I cannot prohibit those people from buying guns!"
So, on June 1st, Obama admitted that the U.S. intelligence apparatus monitors browsing history.
ok
ok
ok
time to learn how to use TOR and buy a VPN ok ok ok

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'd hate to know what the government thinks of my search history

Recently in Spore, I've been having my creatures "evolve" in stages

I call the stages, "Baby" "Adolescent" "Teen" and "Adult". I also have an ultimate form some of them get called "Elder"

However, I keep forgetting how to spell "Adolescent" so I've searched it in google a couple times recently

 

[Shadowwolflink]

"I just came from a meeting, today, in the situation room, in which I’ve got people who we know have been on ISIL websites living here in the United States - US citizens. And we’re allowed to put them on the no fly list when it comes to airlines, but because of the National Rifle Association I cannot prohibit those people from buying guns!"
So, on June 1st, Obama admitted that the U.S. intelligence apparatus monitors browsing history.
ok
ok
ok
time to learn how to use TOR and buy a VPN ok ok ok

Couldn't that just mean they have some kind of tracker on that specific site? I'm sure something like that is possible.

 

[FalKoopa]

Browsing the histories of 300 million people sounds like a tedious job. I assume that the questionable content of the histories is their only source of entertainment and keeps them motivated.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

So...

Surgeon Simulator has Donald Trump DLC allowing people to take out their anger on a virtual Trump.

As much as I dislike Trump...

1. Using a living person as a model for something like that puts a bad taste in my mouth.
2. Doing that NOW, when the political climate is so utterly tense is asinine and idiotic and ripe for controversy (the bad kind).
3. This is promoting doing childish things to Trump out of spite. That will actually help his cause.
4. Can I just say, the whole thing seems mean spirited? Especially the approval its getting. I mean, if this was any other political candidate, people would be up in arms.
5. The amount of people just letting Trump die is disturbing. Say what you will, but that's just cruel.

Yeah, I don't dig that move. It actually makes me feel sympathy for Trump. And I also don't dig that.

They botched this up bad....

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So...

Surgeon Simulator has Donald Trump DLC allowing people to take out their anger on a virtual Trump.

As much as I dislike Trump...

1. Using a living person as a model for something like that puts a bad taste in my mouth.
2. Doing that NOW, when the political climate is so utterly tense is asinine and idiotic and ripe for controversy (the bad kind).
3. This is promoting doing childish things to Trump out of spite. That will actually help his cause.
4. Can I just say, the whole thing seems mean spirited? Especially the approval its getting. I mean, if this was any other political candidate, people would be up in arms?
5. The amount of people just letting Trump die is disturbing. Say what you will, but that's just cruel.

Yeah, I don't dig that move. It actually makes me feel sympathy for Trump. And I also don't dig that.

They botched this up bad....

Can't the guy take it down as it uses his image?