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[PushDustIn]

New poll by Opossum is up! Go vote!

 

[Champ Gold]

You know what the next Smash game should do instead.

How about having second reps for the Third Party Franchises.

Especially considering you now have Final Fantasy and can choose from an infinite pool of characters.

Megaman, Sonic and Street Fighter are kinda obvious and Bayonetta only has one character they can use and I doubt we need Third Party clones

 

[Ura]

Pokemon Sun version so I can pretend i'm playing Golden Sun 4.

You know what the next Smash game should do instead.

How about having second reps for the Third Party Franchises.

Especially considering you now have Final Fantasy and can choose from an infinite pool of characters.

Megaman, Sonic and Street Fighter are kinda obvious and Bayonetta only has one character they can use and I doubt we need Third Party clones

I would rather not have that personally. What I like about third-party series is that just having that one series in makes said character feel special for being in (i.e. Sonic, Ryu, Megaman). When you start adding in a bunch of characters from said series their presence in Smash Bros gets devalued IMO not to mention it's taking third party spots that can be otherwise used for other series. I would love for Squall and Tidus to be in Smash Bros but really Cloud is representing Final Fantasy in Smash Bros and I don't want multiple third-party characters of the same series. Just my take on it. It's not a rule that Sakurai has or anything so I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing a 2nd Street Fighter or 2nd Final Fantasy character. Just something I don't want to see.

 

[ChikoLad]

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A lawyer named Nick is screaming somewhere right now.

 

[Opossum]

There's no difference here. A pattern was broken. That's all that matters.

And FYI, Totodile, Croonaw, and Feraligatr have nothing to do with Water beyond what Type they are. It's just some good name plus their animal species. Toto doesn't have any major meaning of note besides Tot(which is a reference to something young for animals). Feral is obvious. Naw could be Maw, Jaw, or Gnaw. Excuse me, where's the "obvious" Water part? It's not a "pattern" or on every single Starter Pokemon as is. So yes, that's not a strong argument when it's not even factual. It applies to some Pokemon, but clearly not all of them.


It makes just as much sense, because it's blatantly a tiger-ish design. What you're doing right now is shutting down an opinion and refusing to acknowledge that it might be something else. Excuse me if I refuse to do that kind of thing. Maybe I'm acting morally high, but the attitude you're displaying really deserves that kind of response.

FYI, I'm not the one assuming a damn thing. What I'm doing is looking at more than one possibility. So don't you dare accuse me of assumptions when that's the opposite of what I'm doing.


I don't deny it can be "Lit". But pretending that's the indefinite answer when you can't cite it is being ridiculous. I'm going to be blunt right now; Until Gamefreak confirms it, I refuse to see it as anything but an opinion, like all speculation should be under all conditions. Likewise, Arceus has more than one way to say it. Linguistics are clearly not the translatorr's strong suits.

And it doesn't matter if I'm right or wrong, because it has nothing to do with that. It's about respecting other opinions, and I do respect yours on this. I just wish you would do the same instead of being condescending to me. I honestly and sincerely expected better of you, man. :/

The difference is that the patterns are not on the same level for comparison. One had a reason to be broken. This one doesn't.

And yes, the water part is obvious for Totodile because crocodiles live in the water. Doesn't work for Litten though: last I checked there's no cat species that actively live in fire. Meanwhile, basically everyone associates alligators and crocodiles with water, to the point where many people were legitimately confused when Sandile's line wasn't water.

Sorry if I seem condescending, not trying to be. I'm just failing to see how this isn't a cut and dry case. And for Arceus, that at least was ambiguous with the naming since it could legitimately be pronounced different ways depending on which language you take the root from. Litten, on the other hand, is limited to one straight pronunciation by design. Pronouncing it as you would chitin instead of kitten shouldn't, in theory, be possible based on the presence of the second T.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Pokemon Sun version so I can pretend i'm playing Golden Sun 4.

This only works if your team has a Ground, Rock, Flying, Fire, Water, Ice, and Electric type. You also need a Dark, Grass, and Psychic type somewhere in there. Some combinations of each work. XD

I think that's all the possible elements in Golden Sun via Djinn combos. Ground is often what Earth is, but Rock has its moments. Flying is Wind, of course. Fire is Fire. Water is Water. Ice has a few moves. Grass is shown sometimes with stuff like Growth. Dark was added in Dark Dawn. Light has no true equivalent as of yet(maybe Fairy is similar enough? Psychic could apply to it too possibly). Electric has the Plasma stuff. There's nothing that represents the summoner class very well, though.

 

[Wario Bros.]

New poll by Opossum is up! Go vote!

No Swamp Version?

But seriously, there's currently not enough info to know which I'll get. I ain't getting both though.

 

[Ura]

This only works if your team has a Ground, Rock, Flying, Fire, Water, Ice, and Electric type. You also need a Dark, Grass, and Psychic type somewhere in there. Some combinations of each work. XD

I think that's all the possible elements in Golden Sun via Djinn combos. Ground is often what Earth is, but Rock has its moments. Flying is Wind, of course. Fire is Fire. Water is Water. Ice has a few moves. Grass is shown sometimes with stuff like Growth. Dark was added in Dark Dawn. Light has no true equivalent as of yet(maybe Fairy is similar enough? Psychic could apply to it too possibly). Electric has the Plasma stuff. There's nothing that represents the summoner class very well, though.

That's a good way to go about my denial but i'd rather just somehow mod the main character to look like Isaac and change all the dialogue so it's looks like it's from a 4th Golden Sun game. Just gotta make the Legendaries speak so they can be the antagonists of the game and mod an NPC to be Alex so I can finally do the long awaited Isaac VS Alex fight Golden Sun fans have wanted to see.

 

[Deleted member]

You know what the next Smash game should do instead.

How about having second reps for the Third Party Franchises.

Especially considering you now have Final Fantasy and can choose from an infinite pool of characters.

Megaman, Sonic and Street Fighter are kinda obvious and Bayonetta only has one character they can use and I doubt we need Third Party clones

There's only one choice and one choice alone:

 

[PushDustIn]

No Swamp Version?

But seriously, there's currently not enough info to know which I'll get. I ain't getting both though.

No Swamp this time in order to measure accurate results (and so people have only one vote).

 

[Swamp Sensei]

https://www.humblebundle.com/ubisof...Humble_Ubisoft_Bundle_Encore&utm_content=logo

There is a Ubisoft Humble Bundle that ends in a day.

You can get Call of Juarez, Grow Home, and Rayman Origins for a dollar. Pretty much a steal for Rayman Origins alone. There's other games in the other tiers too.

Are they for Steam?

 

[Z25]

I'm getting both versions. I'll do a normal sun play through, and want to do a nuzlocke for Moon.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

The difference is that the patterns are not on the same level for comparison. One had a reason to be broken. This one doesn't.

And yes, the water part is obvious for Totodile because crocodiles live in the water. Doesn't work for Litten though: last I checked there's no cat species that actively live in fire. Meanwhile, basically everyone associates alligators and crocodiles with water, to the point where many people were legitimately confused when Sandile's line wasn't water.

Sorry if I seem condescending, not trying to be. I'm just failing to see how this isn't a cut and dry case. And for Arceus, that at least was ambiguous with the naming since it could legitimately be pronounced different ways depending on which language you take the root from. Litten, on the other hand, is limited to one straight pronunciation by design. Pronouncing it as you would chitin instead of kitten shouldn't, in theory, be possible based on the presence of the second T.

Lighten would be the way to pronounce it if they were going with Liger.

And it's not a cut and dry case because there's nothing to cite. And Crocodile doesn't mean much by default on its own. It's possible for any element-animal combination at that point because Gamefreak does what it wants to. Why isn't Lugia Water/Flying, despite being the God of the Seas, essentially? That's why I don't assume it. I'm not saying your case isn't more likely, but you really should just accept that my possibility is legit, even if not likely. There's nothing wrong with that.

If you don't want to be condescending, then stop presenting your case as a "fact" instead of an "opinion", as well as work on the tone. From the start, you've had a condescending tone about this, acting like you're entirely right, instead of having a perfectly legit opinion. It's easy to present your case as a possibility, not a fact. Unfortunately, that's not how you presented it.

And I must've misread your starter argument, cause I thought you said that every Pokemon had a direct reference to their element, not being an animal that's associated with a particular element. The Totodile line could've been just about any type instead and it wouldn't matter. The name has zero indication of a specific type. What's clear is that it wouldn't likely be a Ghost at best, since it has a full physical body. Could've been Normal without issues. Likewise, Crocodiles are reptiles. Ground/Dragon could've made just as much sense. The closest thing is more that it was Blue-colored, often associated with Water. Also, it's only because we knew a starter would be Water that the Second Gem Pokemon without a specific reference to their typings in the name that we definitely could say Totodile was Water. Process of elimination. It wasn't just because it was an animal usually associated with water. There's more factors than that. Sudowoodo, for instance, would be confused for a Grass type, looking entirely like a tree. That's part of why there's more to it than just the creature/item they're referring to. A big reason why Solgaleo took people by surprise. It's a lion clearly made of shining fire. Not Fire type.

Also, it's not really hard to imagine that Litten is based partially on a Liger. It's clearly a tiger, has a name that fits that(it's possible for a Pokemon to have more than one naming scheme. Remember what I said about Croconaw? Gnaw, Jaw, and Maw. That's the type of point I'm making with Litten. I'd rather just wait to see more information than immediately declaring it solely based upon Lit. It's a reasonable possibility, so is being based upon a Liger. Both are possible, and literally it could be both. We don't know, yet. To be clear, I do agree Lit is the most likely, but I don't agree it's indefinite when clearly not every Starter has a name based upon their type specifically.

 

[PushDustIn]

Shigesato Itoi released a new application yesterday: Dokonoko.

It's a social media platform for pets. It's available on iTunes only right now.

The app lets you create a book for your pets so you can post pictures, share them and learn more about other people's pets in the area. It's also lets you register lost animals so they can find their owners.

It looks neat, but unfortunately I can't try it as I have an Android.

EDIT: You also don't need a pet to use it.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

You know what the next Smash game should do instead.

How about having second reps for the Third Party Franchises.

Especially considering you now have Final Fantasy and can choose from an infinite pool of characters.

Megaman, Sonic and Street Fighter are kinda obvious and Bayonetta only has one character they can use and I doubt we need Third Party clones

Ulala from Space Channel 5 plz

 

[Aetheri]

I'm most likely getting Moon version if I'm not getting both...it depends on how my finances go...

but if I'm only grabbing one version it'll be Moon version...

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Ulala from Space Channel 5 plz

No, we need Beat and his Jet Set Radio crew.

 

[Ura]

Everyone should buy Pokemon Sun so we can all show Nintendo that there's still interest for a 4th Golden Sun game.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Everyone should buy Pokemon Sun so we can all show Nintendo that there's still interest for a 4th Golden Sun game.

So, buy moon if we're instead interested in more harvest moon on 3ds?

Get on that Natsume

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Like with every Gen, I'm getting both. I tend to get the Stadium-like games too.

 

[Chrono.]

I'll get Moon, for now.

I may get Sun for gimmicky run bull****tery.

Also thank you for that new poll because I was getting tired of scrolling through the other one.

 

[Ura]

So, buy moon if we're instead interested in more harvest moon on 3ds?

Get on that Natsume

Yes. They will have to interpret buying one version as wanting to see a game get a sequel. There's no other possibility.

Like with every Gen, I'm getting both. I tend to get the Stadium-like games too.

You just reminded me of how much I want another Pokemon Stadium game. Loved both N64 games from back in the day. Here's hoping for both Pokemon Stadium's to be on the NX Virtual Console and that it carries over the Transfer Pak functionality when you have RBY or GSC on the 3DS.

I'll get Moon, for now.

I may get Sun for gimmicky run bull****tery.

Also thank you for that new poll because I was getting tired of scrolling through the other one.

Sun for Golden Sun dood. You're either with us or against us.

 

[AreJay25]

I'm getting Sun, mainly because of Solgaleo at the moment.

Although I also have a tradition of buying the the "first" version over the other (Red, Gold, Ruby, etc).

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'll buy moon first, and eventually get sun as well

Prob sooner than later

 

[Ura]

I'll buy moon first, and eventually get sun as well

Prob sooner than later

Only cuz you want to kickstart a new Harvest Moon game amirite?

I'm getting Sun, mainly because of Solgaleo at the moment.

Although I also have a tradition of buying the the "first" version over the other (Red, Gold, Ruby, etc).

You're a good man.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Only cuz you want to kickstart a new Harvest Moon game amirite?

You're a good man.

Bat looks cooler than lion

 

[Ura]

Bat looks cooler than lion

Eh, fair enough.

 

[Chrono.]

Sun for Golden Sun dood. You're either with us or against us.

Well. I've never played Golden Sun.

 

[Aetheri]

Yes. They will have to interpret buying one version as wanting to see a game get a sequel. There's no other possibility.

Sun for Golden Sun dood. You're either with us or against us.

Not sure if joking or actually being serious...

 

[Coricus]

I'm gonna get Sun because I prefer the lion's design to that of the bat.

I wouldn't mind another Golden Sun, but right now it's one of many games suffering from my "Coricus starts an RPG and then bails partway through because for some reason they don't have the attention span to sit down for one the first time they play it and they'll probably restart it at some point" tendency. For some reason I have a habit of buying/borrowing RPGs, enjoying them, and then just burning out partway through and either restarting it, quitting for months at a time, or both. Xenoblade Chronicles X was utterly bizarre for my having actually sat down and played through the entire main storyline in one go without doing either, and even then I didn't get around to an awful lot of sidequests and messed up the tree sidequest to boot before I stopped playing.

 

[Deleted member]

I'll be getting Sun as Solgaleo seems to be the more underrated of the two, and as my starter might imply, I like underrated things. That and I like Solgaleo's design and typing more.

 

[Ura]

Well. I've never played Golden Sun.

Fix this problem. Or incur the wrath of SMX.

Spoiler

I jest. Though you should try playing the game one day. On the Wii U E-Shop if you're interested.

Not sure if joking or actually being serious...

I'm trying to convince myself that high Pokemon Sun sales will correlate to Nintendo starting development for a 4th Golden Sun game because that would obviously mean that the market is hot for Sun themed games.

I wouldn't mind another Golden Sun, but right now it's one of many games suffering from my "Coricus starts an RPG and then bails partway through because for some reason they don't have the attention span to sit down for one the first time they play it and they'll probably restart it at some point" tendency. For some reason I have a habit of buying/borrowing RPGs, enjoying them, and then just burning out partway through and either restarting it, quitting for months at a time, or both. Xenoblade Chronicles X was utterly bizarre for my having actually sat down and played through the entire main storyline in one go without doing either, and even then I didn't get around to an awful lot of sidequests and messed up the tree sidequest to boot before I stopped playing.

I feel ya. I barely even started my playthrough of Xenoblade Chronicles yet lol. Too busy playing my Derp Wars to be bothered with that.

 

[Chrono.]

So, while looking for decent 2D Mario and Zelda hacks, I stumbled upon an F-Zero X hack, of all things.

It's essentially a remake of F-Zero Climax for the GBA, the final game that wasn't released overseas.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Anyone get the impression the people that have been making the sun and moon fakes so far haven't been fans of Litten?

Because I expect him to turn out awesome, and NONE of them have drawn his evos awesome

 

[Burruni]

I'm getting both.
Playing Moon first because I have marginal interest in Lunaala, something I can't say in Solgaleo.

 

[Coricus]

Anyone get the impression the people that have been making the sun and moon fakes so far haven't been fans of Litten?

Because I expect him to turn out awesome, and NONE of them have drawn his evos awesome

I get the impression that people expect Litten to turn out badly in general.

I have two theories about it.

One is that Fennekin was a similarly delicate looking starter and people overestimated it and got disappointed, so they're either on guard about Litten for looking the same way.

The other is that there is a Rowlet bias and people are squeeing over it to the point of not seeing the good in the other starters.

*EDIT* Alright giving that a read-over I was definitely pretty far on the pessimistic side. Gonna do a couple tweaks to that wording.

 

[Chrono.]

Anyone get the impression the people that have been making the sun and moon fakes so far haven't been fans of Litten?

Because I expect him to turn out awesome, and NONE of them have drawn his evos awesome

I think it's mostly because no one can seem to agree which direction Litten is gonna go when they evolve.

Out of the 3 starters it's the least non-indicative on how it's going to turn out when moving forward. Is it gonna go bipedal? Does the dark coloring mean Dark-typing is imminent? Maybe it just evolves into a slightly bigger cat? Do the markings mean anything? Who knows.

On the other end of things, Fire-type starters have a bad rep as of late. Infernape was mostly well received, but still viewed as a weaker Blaziken, then Emboar happened and Braixen eclipsed whatever popularity Delphox had. But I doubt fan artists were taking this into consideration.

 

[Jaedrik]

Neither.
I've... realized I need to break my addiction to electronics, and abstaining from more games furthers that end.

 

[Retroend]

You know what the next Smash game should do instead.

How about having second reps for the Third Party Franchises.

Especially considering you now have Final Fantasy and can choose from an infinite pool of characters.

Megaman, Sonic and Street Fighter are kinda obvious and Bayonetta only has one character they can use and I doubt we need Third Party clones

so i would want this:

sega- sonic, bayonetta
namco- pacman, heihachi
capcom- megaman, ryu
square enix- cloud, geno

sakurai did add a mii custome for heihachi and one for geno and he had considered geno to be playable.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Everyone should buy Pokemon Sun so we can all show Nintendo that there's still interest for a 4th Golden Sun game.

That's not how it ****ing works. Otherwise we wouldn't have had a decade without FZero, as Mario Kart shows people still have interest in racing games. This is like that Daisy person who was absolutely obsessed. I love Golden Sun, recently got my hands on Dark Dawn and enjoying it, but this level of fanboyism is insane. I can guarantee you, if Sun is the best selling game of all time, Nintendo wouldn't suddenly realize there's Golden Sun demand because of it