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[IceBreakerXY]

Atleast K rool got a mii costume,dixie stars in 4 games and only gets a trophy . Not bitter, just wish both could of got a costume

 

[Coricus]

Oh yes. This is what I truly want now



I like originality more

I think it's a mix.

We don't have any particularly wild and crazy things from the depths of Nintendo, but we don't have exactly get nothing but a collection of super popular characters that don't do anything unique or interesting either.

If you look at the way Chrom got dropped for Robin but there wasn't a spear/axe/full mage/mounted/Manakete/Taguel/Laguz/etc. chosen for the sake of it instead. . .yeah Sakurai probably shoots for a mix.

Atleast K rool got a mii costume,dixie stars in 4 games and only gets a trophy . Not bitter, just wish both could of got a costume

I'm suddenly remembering the old DK wars I used to witness between Dixie and K. Rool fans. It wasn't as insane as the four way catfight between Mario fans that somehow initially ended with a fifth character that wasn't even considered by the dust cloud full of limbs, but the two groups of DK character supporters definitely got pretty heated.

Then after Mega Man got revealed the K. Rool fans somehow took the opportunity to take control and completely shut down Dixie fans.

Perhaps that's why they didn't get a costume. Dixie's certainly been overshadowed for a while in terms of fan discussion.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

My thoughts exactly.

It really baffles me when I see people say "Sakurai making Murasame Castle is likely" or "Retro Studios is definitely the right choice" when they gloss over the fact that Kamiya said he was interested first. I love Sakurai and all, but I seriously doubt he's a good choice for such a project. Retro Studios is a Western company and they wouldn't know jack squat about Japanese culture (hence why DKCR and Metroid Prime are good fits for them). This is another thing I'll never get the appeal of.

And you are so right, Next Level Games would be a terrible fit as well. Just because they did Punch Out doesn't automatically make them "10/10 perfect choice". Federatiom Farce is also a friendly reminder of how much botching to the source material NLG would have did if they were in charge of a Murasame Castle project. Give them a chance my ***.

The Sakurai one really gets me the most. What makes you think that Sakurai would have magically went "You know that one samurai character who I've made an Assist Trophy? I feel a little bad for him and maybe make a whole new project all about Murasame Castle." after the clear fact that he wasn't familiar enough to warrant being fighter? That would be one of the biggest video game development ***pulls of the century if that happened.

Just because Kid Icarus Uprising was a thing doesn't mean he will start randomly making games for these forgotten characters. It really makes me wonder do Nintendo fans jump the gun this much.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

The Sakurai one really gets me the most. What makes you think that Sakurai would have magically went "You know that one samurai character who I've made an Assist Trophy? I feel a little bad for him and maybe make a whole new project all about Murasame Castle." after the clear fact that he wasn't familiar enough to warrant being fighter? That would be one of the biggest video game development ***pulls of the century if that happened.

Just because Kid Icarus Uprising was a thing doesn't mean he will start randomly making games for these forgotten characters. It really makes me wonder do Nintendo fans jump the gun this much.

I think the word you're looking for is a "bait and switch". An ***pull is a moment where something happens in the plot that is forced or doesn't make any sense.

Besides, Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE exists and that is a bigger bait and switch than the possibility of Sakurai making Murasame Castle out of sympathy.

 

[Ura]

To think a year ago people hated it when I'd say things like that...

I'm glad that the reps mentality is nearly dead. Only took Sakurai giving supporters of the idea the proverbial middle finger to get the hint.

Except that he didn't. He even agreed with the notion of ther being too many FE characters.

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If you're basing how a series should be represented by other series, let alone the outlier (that is filled with coincedence and two clones) then you are doing ti wrong.


This is why I wish this fanbase would get rid of its stupid focues on reps and series and trying to compare everything.

Because Sakurai loves having movesets that are far away from canon and having characters that aren't unique. (well except that one time )


Look how long it too just to get Villager and his spliced moveset and Animal Crossing is HUGE and the villager is actually physically playable.

Dual Strike and Days of Ruin are just as popular as the GBA games. Battalion Wars has it's own following despite being niche.

I'm doing it wrong? Explain to me how that's the case when AW is FE's sister series; both created by Intelligent Systems? I'm not comparing AW to frigging Mario or Pokemon here. I'm comparing AW to a series with a very similar backround. I don't care if FE has had success in this decade. If it's worthy of having this many characters then there's no reason why Wars just can't have one character in the game. Even if it's the case with C. Falcon where the series doesn't get multiple reps that's fine if it at least has a presence on the playable roster.

I never said they would be clones or semi-clones. I just said that they would borrow some moves from Snake in said character's moveset. Your using Villager in a scenario where he thought AC couldn't work in a fighting game setting. How the hell does that apply to AW? INB4 CO's are never shown to fight so therefore Sakurai couldn't come up with a moveset.

 

[Pazzo.]

We all have our gun jumping moments.

Gematsu? Yeah, that thing.

 

[epicmartin7]

Huh. Twitch is actually streaming the DNC's today. You'd think they would take down the twitch chat... but they haven't lol. That chat seems more entertaining than the convention itself believe it or not lol.

Spoiler

 

[Wario Bros.]

Just gimme Balloon Fighter and Sakurai can add anyone else for all I care.

There has been lots of sign Sakurai has been interested in that series since Melee.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Speaking of ***pulls, Bleach has so many of them according to Tv Tropes.

This easily says a lot about how shonen can sometimes be pretty badly written when they bring things up in the plot without any reasoning or foreshadowing.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Speaking of ***pulls, Bleach has so many of them according to Tv Tropes.

This easily says a lot about how shonen can sometimes be pretty badly written when they bring things up in the plot without any reasoning or foreshadowing.

Take a good look at the number Naruto and Fairy Tails has. That's definitely a larger amount compared to the more "bull****" moments that happened throughout Bleach. To this day, Kaguya's forced appearance will never have any real justification other than to milk the already terrible Shinobi Alliance War Arc longer than it should.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

AwesomeAussie27
Yomi's Biggest Fan

Super Mario Strikers
Super Mario Strikers Charged
Punch Out!!
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon

Tons of critically acclaimed games.

You're saying Federation Force's attributes are because NLG are **** ups.

Only thing ****ed up is that idea.

So look at the studio's entire resume.

Not one botch up.



That said, MMC should be handed to Platinum because their specialty is action games.

Not because the other studios would **** it up.

Honestly.

 

[Coricus]

We all have our gun jumping moments.

Gematsu? Yeah, that thing.

Oh gosh, Gematsu.

No matter how much turned out real from it, people used it as this big thing saying that the Gematsu characters were the ONLY characters that could conceivably be in the game, with the only character support being allowed to survive being characters from (fake) tagalong leaks and the whole "Unholy Trinity" mess.

Didn't quite turn out that way.

The leak basically broke the fandom until DLC, at which point the far smaller pool of characters sent people into crazy mode once the last few characters hit.

I'm not going to try to defend the concept of slipping in a marketing character, but there's no logical reason to lie about a third party character that sent the rating up when you could have just added a first party character from a tamer series for less effort. The "Bayonetta didn't win" thing sounds like a darn conspiracy theory, especially when her bizarre win conditions basically admit that the reason she won was because the fandom can't agree on crud and whoever was ahead of her was undoable. Heck, they even said she ranked above veterans, which means she probably beat Wolf fair and square.

In retrospect, the whole Kamiya Twitter insanity during Smash 4's prerelease should have been a sign that something would go down if the fans had a chance to provide input. Hindsight's a witch, I guess.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Pokemon GO, you sure are doing a huge number for these people.

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/07/...eir-children-after-pokemon-due-to-pokemon-go/

 

[epicmartin7]

Oh gosh, Gematsu.

No matter how much turned out real from it, people used it as this big thing saying that the Gematsu characters were the ONLY characters that could conceivably be in the game, with the only character support being allowed to survive being characters from (fake) tagalong leaks and the whole "Unholy Trinity" mess.

Didn't quite turn out that way.

The leak basically broke the fandom until DLC, at which point the far smaller pool of characters sent people into crazy mode once the last few characters hit.

I'm not going to try to defend the concept of slipping in a marketing character, but there's no logical reason to lie about a third party character that sent the rating up when you could have just added a first party character from a tamer series for less effort. The "Bayonetta didn't win" thing sounds like a darn conspiracy theory, especially when her bizarre win conditions basically admit that the reason she won was because the fandom can't agree on crud and whoever was ahead of her was undoable. Heck, they even said she ranked above veterans, which means she probably beat Wolf fair and square.

In retrospect, the whole Kamiya Twitter insanity during Smash 4's prerelease should have been a sign that something would go down if the fans had a chance to provide input. Hindsight's a witch, I guess.

Tbh, I wasn't surprised about when she was revealed. Mainly because I heard about Kaiyama blocking people on twitter asking for inclusion in Smash. To me, that demand was all that's needed to prove she was genuinely voted into the ballot by the silent majority. As at the end of the day, we are still technically the minority .

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Pokemon GO, you sure are doing a huge number for these people.

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/07/...eir-children-after-pokemon-due-to-pokemon-go/

They've damned their children to a terrible life.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Pokemon GO, you sure are doing a huge number for these people.

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/07/...eir-children-after-pokemon-due-to-pokemon-go/

You know, I was originally going to name our son Kirby.

That's when I've thought that would be the stupidest thing to do.

 

[epicmartin7]

Also, here's an article in 2013 talking about how Kaiyama "would be honored if one of his creations was in Smash Bros."

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20..._one_of_his_creations_made_it_into_smash_bros

Kinda' funny how things became full circle 3 years later.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

You know, I was originally going to name our son Kirby.

That's when I've thought that would be the stupidest thing to do.

No it isn't stupid.

Kirby is an actual name.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

They've damned their children to a terrible life.

Speak for yourself, Hitmonlee is an excellent name for a child.

 

[epicmartin7]

Also... one more thing. I think this Article nails it on the head....

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/06/platinums_hideki_kamiya_gives_smash_bros_fans_both_barrels

He regularly indulges in rants via his Twitter account, and following numerous requests from Super Smash Bros. fans to put characters like Bayonetta and Viewtiful Joe into the next instalment of the game, Kamiya simply couldn't hold onto his anger any longer.

 

[ChikoLad]

I'm naming my child "& Knuckles" and there is nothing any of you can do to stop me.

 

[LancerStaff]

I love Sakurai and all, but I seriously doubt he's a good choice for such a project.

Weeeeell, he could literally just copy/paste KIU's ground gameplay. His actual game had a range/melee gimmick identical to KIU's IIRC. Just make Takamaru funny and there ya go.

Except that he didn't. He even agreed with the notion of ther being too many FE characters.

He still okay'd it though. It's pretty obvious he never considered "muh reps" at any point... If anything it because Corrin's just another swordsman.

AwesomeAussie27
Yomi's Biggest Fan

Super Mario Strikers
Super Mario Strikers Charged
Punch Out!!
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon

Tons of critically acclaimed games.

You're saying Federation Force's attributes are because NLG are **** ups.

Only thing ****ed up is that idea.

So look at the studio's entire resume.

Not one botch up.

Um, wow. Remind me to not get on your bad side.

Though Wikipedia lists a bunch of other games I've never heard of... A few licensed things, some original IPs, but nothing mindblowing.

But take these guys and Nintendo's support and they'll make pure gold. Fed Force I'm pretty sure will be a good game, but a Metroid game? It really isn't.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Pokemon GO, you sure are doing a huge number for these people.

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/07/...eir-children-after-pokemon-due-to-pokemon-go/

I can think worse names...

 

[Erureido]

Lady Layton has been confirmed to release in the west sometime next year, so no more year-long gaps between Japanese and International release dates for the Layton games.

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/07/27/lady-layton-coming-to-the-west-in-2017/

It's also confirmed that in the game, Katrielle Layton is searching for her father who went missing, as that was the reason she created her detective agency, so rest assured. It looks like Professor Hershel Layton may very well appear in this game... but from the looks of it, he could be a late-game character.

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As for who I think Katrielle Layton's mother could be, I've been hearing mostly either Flora Reinhold or Emmy Altava. The former has already been explained (both have very similar colored hair), though some think it could because both have long and somewhat wavy hair, but the problem is that their hair color isn't the same.

I think there's a third potential candidate for who could be Katrielle's mother: Aurora!

"What? Who is Aurora?"

I'm glad you asked! Aurora is a character who appears in the Professor Layton and the Azran Legacy, the last main series Layton game. She was a major character there, and her role is that she is the Azran Civilization's emissary.

Here's a comparison of Aurora and Katrielle. Aurora is the character on the left.

Their hair color is almost similar, although Katrielle's hair is a bit darker. It's also worth noting that both have blue eyes.

"Okay, but where are you going with this? You said Aurora was the emissary of some ancient civilization? How could she be Layton's wife and Katrielle's mother?"

To answer this question, I'll need to spoil the endgame events in Azran Legacy, because that's where the answer to the above question lies.

Spoiler: Professor Layton and the Azran Legacy spoilers

Aurora dies when the Azran Sanctuary starts collapsing to the ground below. Her final words before she disappears are, "Perhaps I'll be reborn as a human being... a wonderful human being... like you!"

During her last moments, it is revealed that Aurora herself is an Azran Golem. That being said, did you notice that Aurora doesn't have pupils in her eyes compared to Katrielle? Well, that's because she's an artificial being, an Azran Golem. She was never truly human despite her appearance, hence why she wishes to become one.

In the end credits sequence, we see that Luke encounters a woman who looks very much like Aurora. This woman has an infant in a stroller. Most fans believe that this woman is either: a) Aurora reborn, whose wish to become human was fulfilled or b) just a random woman who happened to look a lot like Aurora.

The former of the two possibilities tend to be agreed upon by most, but the recent news suggest the latter possibility is likely too. Maybe Professor Layton eventually encounters a woman who looks a lot like Aurora (and has pupils in her eyes this time), and perhaps he sees Aurora in that very woman. Both characters fall in love with her, and thus Katrielle Layton is born!

This is all just something to think about. What do you think?

 

[Z25]

Pokemon GO, you sure are doing a huge number for these people.

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/07/...eir-children-after-pokemon-due-to-pokemon-go/

Game Theory: Will Pokemon Go Cause The Collapse Of Society?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Um, wow. Remind me to not get on your bad side.

Was that that bad?

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Pokemon GO, you sure are doing a huge number for these people.

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/07/...eir-children-after-pokemon-due-to-pokemon-go/

Holy **** Roselia's actually THAT common of a name? To think that a seemingly uniconic Pokémon actually managed to lay that big of a mark on the US...

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I'm naming my child "& Knuckles" and there is nothing any of you can do to stop me.

No but there's nothing to stop the child from suing you either. Just ask the couple who named their child Tuladoesthehulaoverinhawaii, who were sued by their own kid for cruelty. Still, it'd make for some entertaining headlines.

 

[Ivander]

You know, I was originally going to name our son Kirby.

That's when I've thought that would be the stupidest thing to do.

It really doesn't when you remember that Kirby is an actual name, both given and surname. Including some big names like Kirby Grant, Jack Kirby and John Kirby.

 

[RodNutTakin]

for SSB5 i'm sticking to ice climbers and ice climbers only


well i guess an exception can be made

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Holy **** Roselia's actually THAT common of a name? To think that a seemingly uniconic Pokémon actually managed to lay that big of a mark on the US...

I think it gets away with it because it sounds like a "real" name and can easily be shortened to Rose. What do you call a kid with a birthname of Bidoof?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

for SSB5 i'm sticking to ice climbers and ice climbers only


well i guess an exception can be made

As much as I like Super Monkey Ball...

What would AiAi do?

 

[ChikoLad]

No but there's nothing to stop the child from suing you either. Just ask the couple who named their child Tuladoesthehulaoverinhawaii, who were sued by their own kid for cruelty. Still, it'd make for some entertaining headlines.

A child who takes shame in the name "& Knuckles" and sues over it, is no child of mine. That name would be a gift. That's how I know that child who tries to sue me is a fake hedgehog.

 

[Ivander]

Pokemon GO, you sure are doing a huge number for these people.

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/07/...eir-children-after-pokemon-due-to-pokemon-go/

Only Eevee is the oddball among the Top 7. Otherwise, the other names can easily be taken for real names. Yes, even Onyx, considering Onyx is a gemstone and gemstone names are pretty common, like Ruby and Pearl.

 

[epicmartin7]

MENUHAX IS BACK ALONG WITH BROWSERHAX.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Hopefully this allows more people to access homebrew without a game being taken down.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Only Eevee is the oddball among the Top 7. Otherwise, the other names can easily be taken for real names. Yes, even Onyx, considering Onyx is a gemstone and gemstone names are pretty common, like Ruby and Pearl.

Even then it's close to Evie, short for Evelyn.

 

[Deleted member]

I went into this fandom with one veteran, and five wanted characters.

Three years later, I got my vet and one character . I got as a consolidation prize.

Next time, I'll go in with Ice Climbers and Inklings. Shake it up a little by expecting only one newcomer.

While i only got 4 of my most wanted characters () and Lucas, i have to admit that i was satisfied on the way they turned out. Also i must admit that while i didn't wanted , they ended up growing on me in the end.

Plus most of my most wanted characters are unlikely as hell anyway (Simon Belmont) so i don't expect most of them to join in (during the DLC speculation, Wolf and K.Rool were the only ones that i thought that had a decent "chance", everybody else for me was hard to tell).

I know that regardless if i get the characters that i want, i will warm up to some of them eventually.

Pokemon GO, you sure are doing a huge number for these people.

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/07/...eir-children-after-pokemon-due-to-pokemon-go/

"Hello, my name is Mewtwo, and im the younger brother of Mew".

No it isn't stupid.

Kirby is an actual name.

There are some examples, for instance Kirby is the last name of Jack Kirby, a well known and important Comic Book Artist, writer and editor that notably worked on stuff like the Fantastic 4, Hulk, X-Men and others.

Then there's John Kirby who was the lawyer that helped Howard Lincoln and Nintendo against Universal (and the rumored inspiration for well.....Kirby's name) so it's not like people will automatically associate Kirby with the Nintendo character. I don't see the problem, it's not like Kirby is a made up word (Kirby means "surname" in Irish and American, "From the Church Village" in Teutonic and Norse, and "Church Farm" in English)

If someone were to name his/her son/daughter after a fictional character, using an acutal common or semi-common real name is okay, and Kirby definetly is.

 

[Z25]

I'm surprised Roselia is at the top of that list, when it's not even in Go or exposed to that many people.

 

[Arcanir]

Let's face it, Kamiya called dibs on Murasame Castle first. So any other developer or director would have been less favorable choices.

I saw one guy say Next Level Games should do it. Do you not realize that sports games are their main forte? Just Federation Force's existence alone tells you that they would have ****ed up Murasame Castle just to appeal to newcomers. Eeeeww, just no way.

Except they also made Luigi's Mansion 2, which was very positively received. Even ignoring that, the complaints about Federation Force are mainly on its timing and "not being the Metroid game people wanted", which is not the fault of the gameplay, which is where you're critiquing them on.

I'm not going to pretend that they'd be a fit for Murasame Castle, but you can't let your bias against Federation Force cloud your judgement and shun what other good games they have made. They could have the potential to make that game, Federation Force shouldn't be treated as a blackmark for the company.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

I can think worse names...

Or Bruce Leeroy from My Baby's Daddy.