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Social NintenZone Social 4 - Bring It In, Guys!

When, if ever, do you plan on buying the Switch?

  • At launch

    Votes: 40 36.0%
  • Late spring/summer

    Votes: 25 22.5%
  • During the fall/holidays

    Votes: 17 15.3%
  • Sometime after 2017

    Votes: 7 6.3%
  • Not until [insert game here] is released

    Votes: 20 18.0%
  • I'm not getting that bucket of turds!!

    Votes: 2 1.8%

  • Total voters
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Faaaaaaaiiiiiiiaaaaaaaaa Eeeeeeemburemuuuuuu! Is confirmed for Smash Bros.!

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Let's be real, THIS track needs to be in the next Smash.

Screw the Brawl Fire Emblem theme, this one is miles better than it.
 

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Cuts discussion again. Poor :4feroy:just can't catch a break lol.

But y'know what why not. Who do you guys expect to get cut in the next Smash Bros game? While I believe there's a possibility that Smash 5 may be the first Smash game without cuts these are the characters who I would think have a possibility of getting the axe in a new Smash Bros game.

:4bowserjr::4darkpit::4greninja::4lucina::4feroy::4corrin::4cloud:
Why characters will get cut is the same reason others have already been cut...

-Low Priority (Clones, Mewtwo, Squirtle, Ivysaur, etc and almost jigglypuff in pretty much every game)
-Technical Limitations (Ice Climbers, may not be as much of an issue anymore due to increasing hardware and power)
-Successors (Young Link->Toon Link, still unconfirmed if this is the case keep in mind, but I think it more than likely is)

Thing is, for those against cuts, you have to remember something...new characters come at the expense of cuts...with each installment of Smash the rosters keep getting bigger and bigger; so it'll be harder and harder to replicate AND add-on to it in the future since that requires more and more work...especially with Smash that has a huge focus on content...
hence why characters become low priority, which usually falls to clone characters since at the time they were added more for convenience at the time...

Now for a port+more content, cuts are likely not going to happen since it's literally just porting the data over and spending more time adding on to it...but for a new game is a different story entirely...
 

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I've noticed Indie Game Battle is 50% off during the Steam Summer sale.

Should I get it? I know it's a poor man's Super Smash Bros. but I'm a sucker for clones.
 

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  • :4cloud::4bayonetta:: They're the third parties I feel the less safe about.
  • :4darkpit::4lucina::4drmario: : Clones are usually the ones that get cut when time constraint are faced. Semi-Clones are also in danger, but the others are really really popular.
That being said, I hope no characters will be cut.
Bayonetta I feel is a lock to never get cut because she won the Ballot. Don't even like Bayonetta but I doubt Sakurai is going to cut the Ballot winner.

Ryu is pretty safe I believe. Cloud not so much due to Square Enix being difficult to work with.
 
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The winner of the popularity poll and is owned by the 3rd Party company with the tightest ties to Nintendo?
Please elaborate.
I think both Cloud and Ryu are little more well known and liked
 
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:4sonic::4megaman::4pacman::4ryu::4bayonetta: - I'm very confident in their return, but not 100% confident of course.
:4cloud: - I'm not very confident in his return, but I'm not pessimistic about it either.
:snake: - I think his chances are slim.
 

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:4cloud: - I'm not very confident in his return, but I'm not pessimistic about it either.:snake: - I think his chances are slim.
Funny that you mention this because Cloud can very well end up being Smash 4's Snake.
 
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I think both Cloud and Ryu are little more well known and liked
Except they didn't get in through a ballot that Smash fans voted on. Bayonetta got the most votes out of realisable characters on said ballot.

Cutting her would be a slap in the face to everyone that voted and reopen old wounds that should be left healed.
 

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The DLC third parties are a little tough to tell for sure how they'll fair in the next non-ported Smash game...

but....
:4myfriends: I mean... :4ryu: Mr. Fighting Game, Street Fighter is the definitive fighting game, Smash likely wouldn't exist if it weren't for Capcom's juggernaut...also Capcom being one of the best third party supporters for Nintendo...

:4bayonetta: Won the frikking Ballot....the ONLY character taken from the ballot...The Fans voted and this is who the majority chose and that's who they picked for the final DLC character....Also Sega being one of the best third party supporters to Nintendo...

:4cloud:Ummm...remember when the internet basically EXPLODED when he was announced as a DLC character? One of the most iconic swordsmen out there (look at my sig)...the only problem is Square doesn't have quite as good of a relationship with Nintendo than the other three (including Namco) third party companies on board in Smash....though it's safe to say it may very well be improving greatly, especially if Nintendo actually manages to have a system strong enough to hold Final Fantasy games again...also Square Enix is already confirmed to be a third party supporter for the NX with the new Dragon Quest being one of the first games announced for the system...

As far as the base roster...:4sonic::4megaman::4pacman:...I'm pretty confident in all of them making a return...they're almost not even third party considering how involved the companies were in smash 4...
 
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Except they didn't get in through a ballot that Smash fans voted on. Bayonetta got the most votes out of realisable characters on said ballot.

Cutting her would be a slap in the face to everyone that voted and reopen old wounds that should be left healed.
Well, we'll have to see if she's still relevant years from now to merit and inclusion

I don't think one survey guarantees a permanent spot. It just shows what was popular at that point in time
 

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Here's my views on third parties:

:4ryu:,:4sonic:,:4megaman:,:4pacman:: These guys are arguably the most iconic characters of gaming (especially Mega Man and Pac Man); if they removed any of them, it'd be a slap to the face for fans.

:4cloud:: Currently my main, the amount of hype (and salt for me at first) that Cloud generated upon his announcement showed how shocked and happy people were to see him come into Smash Bros. To be entirely honest, Square Enix and Nintendo's relationship are improving anyway, so I doubt we'll see this guy go anytime soon if things go as the way they are.

:4bayonetta:: Yeah.... about Bayonetta; I honestly am uncertain about what her fate would be. Yes, the fact that she was the ballot winner (despite the fact I don't agree upon this, but that's just my view) seems to make her safe from being cut. If she were removed, it would generate a lot of anger from fans of her and would not bring a good image on the series. I'm honestly 50-50 overall; if she gets cut, then I am sorry for her fans, but if she stays, I guess I'm cool with that as long as the roster expands with more characters later on.
 
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tbh i'm more interested on whether they'll make one game for both console and handheld or something.

Obviously, if NX console and handheld share the software library (cartridges and the same architecture!) it won't be as much of an issue to play Smash on handheld systems as it was on 3DS.
 

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Considering how many swordsmen there are, I think every character is likely to get cut. Heh heh. Get it? Cut. Because swords... cut people and... stuff.
 

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Considering how many swordsmen there are, I think every character is likely to get cut. Heh heh. Get it? Cut. Because swords... cut people and... stuff.
Then we fill the roster with 58 4th party characters right? Just to screw with everything.
 

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The winner of the popularity poll and is owned by the 3rd Party company with the tightest ties to Nintendo?
Please elaborate.
Literally this. Kamiya even said Sakurai could have Bayo when ever he wanted for smash if he asked. It took almost nothing to get her. She's a lock.
I think both Cloud and Ryu are little more well known and liked
Ryu I'd say is a lock as well. Capcom loves Nintendo, and actually helped greatly with him and megaman. They both are super iconic and popular. There's no reason to not keep Ryu. Especially since he seems to be the 2nd most popular DLC next to Cloud.

For DLC, I'd argue that sale would be a big factor in their return. As is how easy it be to add them. I think this will cause a lot, if not all the DLC to return as they are all fan favorites pretty much. Cloud is debatable, but I don't see a reason to cut him. Square seems very open to continuing supporting Nintendo, and I think they realized that Cloud in Smash is a great advertisement for them and appeals both parties well. Therefore I could see them want to negotiate to bring him back and maybe even more.
 

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I believe everyone is coming back.

Because Smash NX will be the last game for the series until the soft 'reboot' of the roster where it's shorten but content, gameplay, music and graphics is richer than any game in the series
 

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I believe everyone is coming back.

Because Smash NX will be the last game for the series until the soft 'reboot' of the roster where it's shorten but content, gameplay, music and graphics is richer than any game in the series
I still am wondering if Smash NX is going to actually happen; is there any recent evidence on this? And if its truly planned, when might it be announced?
 

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I believe everyone is coming back.

Because Smash NX will be the last game for the series until the soft 'reboot' of the roster where it's shorten but content, gameplay, music and graphics is richer than any game in the series
That would be very stupid to cut down the roster. It'll lead to anger amongst a lot of people and a lot of series will go unrepresented if that happens.
 

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That would be very stupid to cut down the roster. It'll lead to anger amongst a lot of people and a lot of series will go unrepresented if that happens.
Let's put it like this, the series will have a soft reboot in the future because if Wmash goes the way I think it would without trimming the fat, then it'll have a 70+ character roster that's hard to keep balance for even for a competitive party fighter.

I ain't saying less is better

I'm just saying I won't be surprised when the roster gets down sized after Smash NX happens. Fighting Games go through this every time. It gets harder to balance each time when the roster is so large, to the point where characters get ignored (see :4jigglypuff::4peach::4gaw::4dedede:&:4gaw:)
 

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Let's put it like this, the series will have a soft reboot in the future because if Wmash goes the way I think it would without trimming the fat, then it'll have a 70+ character roster that's hard to keep balance for even for a competitive party fighter.

I ain't saying less is better

I'm just saying I won't be surprised when the roster gets down sized after Smash NX happens. Fighting Games go through this every time. It gets harder to balance each time when the roster is so large, to the point where characters get ignored (see :4jigglypuff::4peach::4gaw::4dedede:&:4gaw:)
If it's done for the sake of balancing then it's stupid because cutting down the roster will do nothing to make Smash Bros more competitive. Melee has 26 characters and it has more or less the same amount of viable characters to use in the game. If anything Smash 4 has more competitive potential with a lot of characters not reaching their full potential and additional balance patches.

And I seriously doubt the roster would get cut down for the sake of appeasing competitive Smashers. They're only like 10% Smash players and slashing the roster just to appeal to them would be flat out idiotic.
 

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This is some amazing news.

Resident Evil is not a series with Nintendo ties.

Capcom must see real promise in the system.
Actually, RE has some pretty decent ti s with Nintendo for years despite being popular on PS and Xbox moreso.

The ports of RE 1&2 on N64 sold well, REmake, Zero and RE4 on GC, the port of RE1 to DS no one ever knows about and all the stuff they had for the Wii from RE4's best version until 360/PS3/PC ports and the Rail Shooter games
 

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Anyone have almost an addiction to spicy foods?

Once I eat something spicy, I seem to want more and more of it even if my mouth absolutely burns.
 

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Gosh darn it...

I'm tempted.

That may be the weebest thing I ever buy.
 

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Sonic Adventure concept art.

Those beta designs for Gamma and Big are great.

EDIT: BETA SHADOW CONCEPTS

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If it's done for the sake of balancing then it's stupid because cutting down the roster will do nothing to make Smash Bros more competitive. Melee has 26 characters and it has more or less the same amount of viable characters to use in the game. If anything Smash 4 has more competitive potential with a lot of characters not reaching their full potential and additional balance patches.

And I seriously doubt the roster would get cut down for the sake of appeasing competitive Smashers. They're only like 10% Smash players and slashing the roster just to appeal to them would be flat out idiotic.
It's not just balance, it's also the workload that comes with that many characters. Remember that Smash is a series that actually builds its games from the ground up, each character isn't just ported from the previous one as they do update them to the new engine, tweak them for better balance, among other things, and that exponentially increases the larger the roster gets. Additionally, you also have to consider them doing things like graphics, special features like Smash Run, Events, among other things, and that means even more time and resources that have to be devoted to the game. As much as we'd hate to see it, we are going to reach a point where trimming the fat is going to be the more feasible option for the development team because otherwise they're going to have way too much strain on themselves and the resources that they have.
 

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WTF, I watched a video about Mario Party Island Tour and Bowser said Dry Bowser is a friend.
Also, Toad said a Dry Bowser, so I guess... it's not just dead Bowser, and it's also a species XD
 
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