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[PsychoIncarnate]

IDK which one this is but I could NOT finish it

 

[Chrono.]

IDK which one this is but I could NOT finish it

Frontier.

Started off well but goes off the rails by sidelining everyone who aren't the main 2 guys for the entire second half.

 

[Scamper52596]

So I'm a big believer in BotW being a distant WW/ST sequel. I just had a random thought. What if the "Twin Peaks" we've seen from the BotW trailer and footage were at one point Outset Island from WW?

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[ChikoLad]

So I'm a big believer in BotW being a distant WW/ST sequel. I just had a random thought. What if the "Twin Peaks" we've seen from the BotW trailer and footage were at one point Outset Island from WW?

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It was already confirmed that the Twin Peaks are from the original Zelda, or that's where they got the idea from for BotW at least.

 

[Scamper52596]

It was already confirmed that the Twin Peaks are from the original Zelda, or that's where they got the idea from for BotW at least.

Doesn't mean the mountains couldn't be repurposed. I have a feeling that BotW is meant to be a retelling of a Hyrule in a desolate and declining state, but at the end of another timeline parallel to the original. The time periods between both the orignal Zelda and BotW could even match up if you think about it.

 

[Z25]

It's like saying Gen 3 is garbage because Swalot's just Muk with a mustache.

You take that back!

Swalot is much better and classier then that pile of sludge!

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[Opossum]

Smash mods have gone too far.

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I think Miyamoto said at one point he almost considers Wuhu Island its own character, in a way. Hence, this is a fitting progression.

"Fine. If the TOs won't let me fight on Wuhu Island, I'll fight as Wuhu Island!"

 

[Burruni]

I think Miyamoto said at one point he almost considers Wuhu Island its own character, in a way. Hence, this is a fitting progression.

"Fine. If the TOs won't let me fight on Wuhu Island, I'll fight as Wuhu Island!"

I can dig it.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

IDK which one this is but I could NOT finish it

Frontier? I couldn't finish it either. I watched it for the intro

 

[ChikoLad]

Doesn't mean the mountains couldn't be repurposed. I have a feeling that BotW is meant to be a retelling of a Hyrule in a desolate and declining state, but at the end of another timeline parallel to the original. The time periods between both the orignal Zelda and BotW could even match up if you think about it.

I really don't think Nintendo are thinking that deeply about it.

This is Aonuma (and Miyamoto, but to a lesser extent), not Koizumi.

IMO, I think the game will have a strong lore to it, but it will be self contained. And then later on, they will slap a timeline placement onto it. Like they usually do. Maybe even make a new one.

That's why I feel like we are seeing so many contradictory elements in this game. The world has been stated to be based on the original Zelda, which is in the Downfall Timeline, and Hyrule does seem to have fallen down, so to speak. We have Koroks from the Adult Timeline. We have Wolf Link from the Child Timeline (who I know is mostly likely deemed non-canon, but that further proves my point about how they don't seem to care at the moment).

There's also the fact that this game is partially being made to celebrate the 30th Anniversary of Zelda, so they are really going to throw in as many elements from past games as they can.

I mean we know Aonuma doesn't have that much control over the Zelda lore, it's more the animators and such that handle that. He said this on the TPHD interview for Miiverse, where he said he doesn't even know the meaning of the "Zant Neck Snap" scene, because one of the animators did it himself.

 

[Scamper52596]

I really don't think Nintendo are thinking that deeply about it.

This is Aonuma (and Miyamoto, but to a lesser extent), not Koizumi.

IMO, I think the game will have a strong lore to it, but it will be self contained. And then later on, they will slap a timeline placement onto it. Like they usually do. Maybe even make a new one.

That's why I feel like we are seeing so many contradictory elements in this game. The world has been stated to be based on the original Zelda, which is in the Downfall Timeline, and Hyrule does seem to have fallen down, so to speak. We have Koroks from the Adult Timeline. We have Wolf Link from the Child Timeline (who I know is mostly likely deemed non-canon, but that further proves my point about how they don't seem to care at the moment).

There's also the fact that this game is partially being made to celebrate the 30th Anniversary of Zelda, so they are really going to throw in as many elements from past games as they can.

I doubt it. Every 3D Zelda game has had a specific spot in the timeline in mind when crafting the story. Skyward Sword's story was definitely made as a prequel story in mind. MM, WW, and TP were definitely OoT sequels. I've been finding way more WW connections in BotW's footage and art than I have found elements from other Zelda games in different timelines. The Sheikah symbol we see in BotW has design elements that, as far as I'm aware, have only ever appeared on the outside of the Tower of the Gods from WW. I don't think that's coincidence.

Reportedly, Aonuma even pointed to the Sheikah symbol on his shirt when asked about BotW's place in the timeline to give us a hint. I believe he wanted us to see the patterns around the Sheikah symbol and make the connection to the one other game from which we've seen those specific patterns in the franchise.

 

[Chandeelure]

CD Projekt Red, the creators of The Witcher 3, said that the NX will be fantastic.

 

[Substitution]

CD Projekt Red, the creators of The Witcher 3, said that the NX will be fantastic.

Well gee that sure is nice of him.
If only we could know at least something about the console that he was praising.

 

[ChikoLad]

I doubt it. Every 3D Zelda game has had a specific spot in the timeline in mind when crafting the story. Skyward Sword's story was definitely made as a prequel story in mind. MM, WW, and TP were definitely OoT sequels.

Yeah but the thing is that in all of these cases, the timeline placement seemed to come later, which made it seem like an afterthought. Even with MM, it's clearly directly after OoT, but within two minutes, Link is dragged into a totally different realm and his entire adventure is a self contained romp that has very little to do with what happened in OoT. The only thing in MM's story that's relevant to the overarching timeline is Link befriending Skull Kid at the VERY end.

This sort of carries through with all of the games. It seems to me like a very Nomura style of writing, except even more exaggerated - they made the game and had a few mysterious or seemingly important elements here and there, and then came up with why they were important after.

These games definitely were not made with the intention of being interwoven in this grand timeline. Skyward Sword is the only game that feels like it was explicitly made "for the timeline", and it made sense considering when it came out. But even then, "how Hyrule began" is such a vague concept they could do anything with and bares very little direct connection to any other specific game.

Zelda is largely a franchise of connected themes, less of connected stories. Even if they have a timeline, it's clearly an afterthought. Once again, this franchise is headed by Aonuma and Miyamoto and story just isn't their thing.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

CD Projekt Red, the creators of The Witcher 3, said that the NX will be fantastic.

Do you have a source for that? If so, that's great to hear.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

CD Projekt Red, the creators of The Witcher 3, said that the NX will be fantastic.

We need sources.

 

[Champ Gold]

LEBRON JAMES DID IT FOR THE LAND


CLEVELAND FINALLY WINS

 

[Chandeelure]

Here:

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Bandana Dee for Smash.

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[Scamper52596]

Zelda is largely a franchise of connected themes, less of connected stories. Even if they have a timeline, it's clearly an afterthought. Once again, this franchise is headed by Aonuma and Miyamoto and story just isn't their thing.

I get all that, but I'm sure that the afterthought has been thought at this point now that the game is pretty much done, so I still think it's fun to look for connections as to where the game might take place. So far I've seen many connections and possible connections to WW more so than any other Zelda.

 

[JamesDNaux]

Weren't the Sheikah entirely absent from The Wind Waker apart from a few sparse appearances of their symbol? I don't remember any in Phantom Hourglass either, didn't play Spirit Tracks so I don't know if any popped up there. Seems weird that they'd just suddenly become prominent again in that timeline. Dunno if any of this was discussed before, been gone for a bit.


Actually, the title of the game has two hints that help and hurt the placement in the timeline. The Master Sword.

It looks terribly rusty, which could indicate a long time underwater. Though if that's the case... shouldn't it still be in Ganondorf's face? If it's in the title, then Link must acquire it at some point, will he unknowingly yank it out of Ganondorf, accidentally releasing him? Or will Ganondorf already somehow be on the loose, stupidly leaving the Master Sword somewhere Link could get it?

Either there'll be some blatant plot-holes and excuses to just have things be how they usually are, or it's in a different timeline.

Koroks could either be an oversight, laziness, or maybe something other than a flood made the Kokiri change.
We need to see either a river Zora or a Rito, and I'm not sure which one I'd prefer..

 

[Depressed Gengar]

I tried drawing a thing that did not turn out well but turned out better than usual.

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[Ivander]

LEBRON JAMES DID IT FOR THE LAND


CLEVELAND FINALLY WINS

To quote Drew Carey: "Cleveland rocks!"

 

[IceBreakerXY]

Man if i knew the warriors was gonna blow it in the last mintue i would've just watched money in the bank the whole night.Smh.Swear i hate lebron

 

[Scamper52596]

Weren't the Sheikah entirely absent from The Wind Waker apart from a few sparse appearances of their symbol? I don't remember any in Phantom Hourglass either, didn't play Spirit Tracks so I don't know if any popped up there. Seems weird that they'd just suddenly become prominent again in that timeline. Dunno if any of this was discussed before, been gone for a bit.

Not if you consider the possibility of a history of Hyrule that was washed away with the Great Flood. Neither we or the island inhabitants of WW know much about anything that happened during Hyrule's development after OoT, but before WW. It's entirely possible that the Sheikah could've been there to provide technology after Ganondorf was defeated. You have to admit it's interesting how the Tower of the Gods rises up from the ocean in WW similarly to how the Towers of Resurrection rise up from all around Hyrule in BotW. I think the Sheikah may have had a hand in creating both. Perhaps the decision to flood Hyrule was only partly due to sealing Ganondorf, but also to cover up an unwanted history...

Actually, the title of the game has two hints that help and hurt the placement in the timeline. The Master Sword.

It looks terribly rusty, which could indicate a long time underwater. Though if that's the case... shouldn't it still be in Ganondorf's face? If it's in the title, then Link must acquire it at some point, will he unknowingly yank it out of Ganondorf, accidentally releasing him? Or will Ganondorf already somehow be on the loose, stupidly leaving the Master Sword somewhere Link could get it?

Either there'll be some blatant plot-holes and excuses to just have things be how they usually are, or it's in a different timeline.

Koroks could either be an oversight, laziness, or maybe something other than a flood made the Kokiri change.
We need to see either a river Zora or a Rito, and I'm not sure which one I'd prefer..

You also have to remember that something happened 100 years ago before this Link went to sleep. It's entirely possible that the Master Sword could've been pulled to stop Calamity Ganon, but was unusable due to the rust. So that's why Ganon had to be sealed away in Hyrule's Castle instead. That's my theory anyway. If this game is meant to be a sequel, I expect it to answer questions like that.

 

[ChikoLad]

Weren't the Sheikah entirely absent from The Wind Waker apart from a few sparse appearances of their symbol? I don't remember any in Phantom Hourglass either, didn't play Spirit Tracks so I don't know if any popped up there. Seems weird that they'd just suddenly become prominent again in that timeline. Dunno if any of this was discussed before, been gone for a bit.


Actually, the title of the game has two hints that help and hurt the placement in the timeline. The Master Sword.

It looks terribly rusty, which could indicate a long time underwater. Though if that's the case... shouldn't it still be in Ganondorf's face? If it's in the title, then Link must acquire it at some point, will he unknowingly yank it out of Ganondorf, accidentally releasing him? Or will Ganondorf already somehow be on the loose, stupidly leaving the Master Sword somewhere Link could get it?

Either there'll be some blatant plot-holes and excuses to just have things be how they usually are, or it's in a different timeline.

Koroks could either be an oversight, laziness, or maybe something other than a flood made the Kokiri change.
We need to see either a river Zora or a Rito, and I'm not sure which one I'd prefer..

See the thing that makes Koroks irrelevant to me, is the fact that TPHD references the Rito. And that was specifically added for TPHD, and Aonuma said there would be hints for BotW in TPHD. Rito haven't appeared outside of the Adult timeline yet.

Also if anything, I think the Master Sword being rusty is a hint to the Downfall Timeline - simply because it hasn't been in use. After a certain point in the Downfall Timeline, if Ganondorf indeed takes over, then that would lead to the Master Sword losing it's purpose (I'm tired right now so I don't have the full explanation but HMK did a good video on it), especially if Link is asleep for 100 years.

 

[Z25]

Well gee that sure is nice of him.
If only we could know at least something about the console that he was praising.

What are you talking about? We know it's a console that's new


But very soon we should know, or so I hope.

 

[Champ Gold]

Man if i knew the warriors was gonna blow it in the last mintue i would've just watched money in the bank the whole night.Smh.Swear i hate lebron

And watch ROMANWINSLOL?

Nope, FOR DA LAND

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Here:

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Bandana Dee for Smash.

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Again, that's really great to hear.
Witcher 3 port for NX confirmed?

 

[Schnee117]

Here:

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So Witcher 3 Complete edition, Gwent and Cyberpunk 2077 for NX pls?

 

[BluePikmin11]

I love hearing more NX support from third-parties, makes me seriously hopeful for Nintendo's success.

 

[IceBreakerXY]

And watch ROMANWINSLOL?

Nope, FOR DA LAND

would rather watch roman kick out at 2 ten times.Then see lebron cry and moan his way to another championship

 

[Arcanir]

Since the topic is still a bit fresh, here's my Digimon list:

1. Tamers
2. Adventure
3. Savers
4. Frontier
5. Xros Wars
6. 02
7. Young Hunters

I didn't rate Tri yet since I haven't finished the second OVA, though I would put it somewhere in the middle right now if I had to place it.

Welp, I beat Conquest Lunatic, I wasn't able kill the boss in one turn which ended up costing the life of everyone involved in the cheesing
And it's not because my Avatar is weak, it's because of that stupid skill the boss has, Bold Stance
But even with a Hexing Rod and an Enfeeble, it wasn't able to kill her and she was able to retaliate
Phew, I can't believe I endured all of this, I'll try to clear Endgame again later without letting anyone die(probably by having Kaze debuff the boss with Caltrop(-8 Spd/Def/Res op pls nerf), he can take a hit as long as he doesn't get crit)
Now, I have to make up with a character I always end up benching...

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It's time for evil to meet its match with the All Might Arthur One For All run

Congrats for surviving Hell my friend.

I forgot about Bold Stance, that's pretty much a middle finger to any Brave Weapon if you don't kill them fast enough. Be careful of the boss' process skill though as if Kaze does enough damage, he could get killed by it in his retailiation.

 

[Chrono.]

would rather watch roman kick out at 2 ten times.Then see lebron cry and moan his way to another championship

Seth Rollins just won.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Digimon seasons? I've only seen the dubs, so I cannot comment on Young Hunters. But I will say that Fusion was my least favorite, with Tamers topping it. I overall enjoyed them all. Frontier was cool until the second half when they dropped the ball, making it just the Garurumon and Greymon style users be the only fighters for the most part. If everybody got their fusion spirits, this would be less of an issue. Albeit, many of them would clearly be hard to sell as toys, which is part of why they ignored some of them, but yeah.

Merchandise-driven shows have issues at times, heh.

 

[Champ Gold]

HOLY ****


CROSSFIT JESUS SETH ROLLINS DID IT


YES

 

[Chrono.]

DEAN ****ING AMBROSE

YOUR NEW WWE CHAMPION

 

[Champ Gold]

DEAN ****ING AMBROSE

YOUR NEW WWE CHAMPION

>Crossfit Jesus didn't win it

I'm okay with this. He beat Roman clean

 

[IceBreakerXY]

DEAN AMBROSE IS THE WWE CHAMPION!!! I CANT DEAL,MY FAVORITE GUY IS THE FACE!!

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Texting girl.

Talk about writing.

Gurl: "Aw c'mon, I want to know."

Me: "I guess we'll have to talk about it on the date."

Gurl: "That got me all embarrassed. In a good way."

 

[Ura]

That was a great PPV. 3 solid matches that are worthy of being MotY. So happy that Dean finally got his moment.