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[Coricus]

OK, if anyone wants a reason why dual audio might not happen, I actually went to look it up.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=525009

Long story short, Japanese voice actors are actually a nightmare to get to allow their voices to be used overseas.

System language settings may actually be a workaround to avoid having to pay massive royalties or deal with little princesses while still giving people the voice acting they want. If Nintendo does want subs, they'll have to get every Japanese voice actor to agree with their voices being exported.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

My sister is so god damn hardheaded. Shes been having pain day in add day out on her side and I keeps saying " bully them into admitting you into the hospital" and she always says no. She cant even sleep. I just told he she gonna wait till its to late to get admitted

I have been woken up late at night and havent slept for 5 days because every night she wakes up everyone to take her to ER because of pain, I swear Im running low on endurance

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Like a 30 y/o with the voice of a ****ing 15 y/o

You mean a certain Cipher Pol 9 member from One Piece?



Chapapapapapa!

 

[Deleted member]

I don't see them doing it with this specific game, but considering how much they've tried fixing other issues people have on that front I can see them offering the option in future games. That's part of why I feel this strong of backlash is a bit hasty, although I suppose it could also be useful in accelerating the process.

If there's a reason why they can't, then I would assume that they would eventually bring that to light instead. . .and then be ignored.

Bit random, but I've noticed a lot of your posts tend to like, dislike the idea of Nintendo being criticized. I've noticed this on multiple occasions, not just this time.

Do you dislike criticism of Nintendo?

 

[Aetheri]

So now it's cool to hate on Japanese VA's?
I kid....

Progress in Echoes....


Continuing forth through Dark Subterranean Torvus and I encounter the Grapple Guardian, which is possibly my favourite mini-boss of the Primes simply because of it's sick as **** design! I'm a little sad we don't get to battle an Alpha Grenchler though...That would've been a neat battle...

Shortly after...

Another one of my favourite bosses...Chykka...Can appreciate the scan data after the fight reassuring me that it's actually for sure dead this time...

It's really neat how the atmosphere changes after collecting the Light Energy from Dark Aether Temple and transfering it to it's Light World counterpart...Torvus gets a whole lot brighter afterwards...It's another one of those cool details that really helps make the world come alive...

After a small detour in the Temple Grounds collecting scan data on Blue's A-Kul's Clues for the Sky Temple keys (for those that don't know you have to scan these before getting the keys otherwise you miss out on the data) I finally head on my way to Sanctuary Fortress....

 

[Chandeelure]

Well. I found out who did the **** drawings.

But... should I tattle?

What's wrong with people?

They should draw Dees, not *****.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

People who prefer subs are kinda dumb tbh. Here's the ONE reason they prefer them
Because they don't understand the language, they can't tell if it's good or bad voice acting unlike English. For example, in Japan, a scene in Kamen Rider Blade was a meme for a while because of how bad the delivery was. The line was "Are you really a traitor?" but it came out like "AROO REALA TRAITERRR?" They called the actor the Ondoru king, Ondoru being a corruption of 'honto uriigatta' or something

 

[Coricus]

Bit random, but I've noticed a lot of your posts tend to like, dislike the idea of Nintendo being criticized. I've noticed this on multiple occasions, not just this time.

Do you dislike criticism of Nintendo?

Honestly, I think I'm a bit sensitive around criticism in general, at least when I know enough about something to actually have an opinion. And sometimes when I don't, for that matter. I think it's a habit I picked up moreso following the Sonic fandom and simply carried over when various Nintendo fandoms started acting the same way.

That said, if I feel a criticism is level headed and takes all parts of a situation into account, then since there's so much criticism out there in general I tend to be more likely to leave it be. Criticism can be valid, but there's many times when people do it without taking everything into account. For example, when I researched this situation, I found the bit about Japanese voice acting that could cause an issue. I also feel that people tend to be a bit too emotional in the way they word their criticisms, which tends to involuntarily cause my feathers to ruffle up a bit more. And then they kind of stay ruffled afterwards. . .

 

[redfeatherraven]

OK, if anyone wants a reason why dual audio might not happen, I actually went to look it up.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=525009

Long story short, Japanese voice actors are actually a nightmare to get to allow their voices to be used overseas.

System language settings may actually be a workaround to avoid having to pay massive royalties or deal with little princesses while still giving people the voice acting they want. If Nintendo does want subs, they'll have to get every Japanese voice actor to agree with their voices being exported.

That makes a great deal of sense and is a terrible shame considering the triviality of the technical side of things.

Unfortunately it's harder to find NeoGAF than Nintendo's Twitter and it's easier to blame Ninty than lawyers. They'll probably have to make a formal announcement or eat the press.

Bit random, but I've noticed a lot of your posts tend to like, dislike the idea of Nintendo being criticized. I've noticed this on multiple occasions, not just this time.

Do you dislike criticism of Nintendo?

In her defense, this isn't a criticism that can be levied at Nintendo, other than how the communication was handled.

If the reasoning is solid, they're basically doing what they can with what they have.

I also feel that people tend to be a bit too emotional in the way they word their criticisms, which tends to involuntarily cause my feathers to ruffle up a bit more.

I can't unsee it.

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly, I think I'm a bit sensitive around criticism in general, at least when I know enough about something to actually have an opinion. And sometimes when I don't, for that matter. I think it's a habit I picked up moreso following the Sonic fandom and simply carried over when various Nintendo fandoms started acting the same way.

That said, if I feel a criticism is level headed and takes all parts of a situation into account, then since there's so much criticism out there in general I tend to be more likely to leave it be. Criticism can be valid, but there's many times when people do it without taking everything into account. For example, when I researched this situation, I found the bit about Japanese voice acting that could cause an issue. I also feel that people tend to be a bit too emotional in the way they word their criticisms, which tends to involuntarily cause my feathers to ruffle up a bit more. And then they kind of stay ruffled afterwards. . .

Ah, I see.

Criticism does outweigh positivity in number because the way the internet is and just for the fact it's a lot easier for people to express why they dislike something instead of why they like something. Also, the people who end up saying supportive things generally don't get responses from other positive people going "Yeah, man! I agree that's awesome!".

You can't do anything about how much people will criticize something, but what you can do is share positive traits and things you like and possibly respond to others who are being positive and boost more discussion in that direction.

No one's perfect or anything and everyone has what will set them off so that's understandable, but try ignoring the people that go too far with it or aren't trying to objective with their subjective opinions.

 

[Chrono.]

People who prefer subs are kinda dumb tbh. Here's the ONE reason they prefer them
Because they don't understand the language, they can't tell if it's good or bad voice acting unlike English. For example, in Japan, a scene in Kamen Rider Blade was a meme for a while because of how bad the delivery was. The line was "Are you really a traitor?" but it came out like "AROO REALA TRAITERRR?" They called the actor the Ondoru king, Ondoru being a corruption of 'honto uriigatta' or something

A lot of Japanese voice acting can be bad and easily noticeable.

Exhibit A:

 

[Kurri ★]

People who prefer subs are kinda dumb tbh. Here's the ONE reason they prefer them
Because they don't understand the language, they can't tell if it's good or bad voice acting unlike English. For example, in Japan, a scene in Kamen Rider Blade was a meme for a while because of how bad the delivery was. The line was "Are you really a traitor?" but it came out like "AROO REALA TRAITERRR?" They called the actor the Ondoru king, Ondoru being a corruption of 'honto uriigatta' or something

I don't think it's really all that fair to call those who prefer subs dumb.
Sure they may not understand the language, but the point is that they find it more immersive/enjoyable that way. It has nothing to do about whether or not they can tell if the voice acting is bad.
Square Enix releases two versions of Call of Duty in Japan, one subbed, one dubbed. The subbed one is more popular because it feels a lot more immersive to the players.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

A lot of Japanese voice acting can be bad and easily noticeable.

Exhibit A:

...

Oh gosh...

They all sound like they're half asleep.


Which reminds me of my favorite bad voice acting (from a game that's actually pretty good all things considered).

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

God I cant seep again...
Guess I'll just charge up my 3DS and play all ight

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

You mean a certain Cipher Pol 9 member from One Piece?



Chapapapapapa!

> Implying Fukuro wasn't meant to sound like a big cuddly barn owl.

Chapapapa.

A lot of Japanese voice acting can be bad and easily noticeable.

Exhibit A:

Jesus Christ, that sounds horrible.

Do you have an Exhibit B?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

A lot of Japanese voice acting can be bad and easily noticeable.

Exhibit A:

I don't think it's really all that fair to call those who prefer subs dumb.
Sure they may not understand the language, but the point is that they find it more immersive/enjoyable that way. It has nothing to do about whether or not they can tell if the voice acting is bad.
Square Enix releases two versions of Call of Duty in Japan, one subbed, one dubbed. The subbed one is more popular because it feels a lot more immersive to the players.

I'm SPECIFICALLY talking about the people who absolutely refuse to even look at a dub because it's inferior to the almighty Japanese dub. The same people who whine dubs/localizations aren't a 100% accurate translatio

 

[Kurri ★]

I'm SPECIFICALLY talking about the people who absolutely refuse to even look at a dub because it's inferior to the almighty Japanese dub. The same people who whine dubs/localizations aren't a 100% accurate translatio

Well, that's they're problem. They're annoying (and at times overbearing) but I still don't think it's fair to call them dumb unless they're becoming offensive about it.

 

[FalKoopa]

Okay, started my conquest run.

The plot is getting rather odd right from the start.

Random thoughts:
- Effie's and Oboro's voice actors should have switched. Effie has the exact same voice that I expected from Oboro before she talked.
- I can tell the difficulty is slightly greater already, but here goes nothing.

Spoiler: What is this guy doing in the game

Sorry, this joke just writes itself.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

As if Mama Luigi's death was bad enough, another good meme hero died recently.

Your adorable barks will be missed Gabe the Dog.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Bork in Peace Pupper

 

[redfeatherraven]

Jesus Christ, that sounds horrible.

Do you have an Exhibit B?

Let's hope not.

As if Mama Luigi's death was bad enough, another good meme hero died recently.

Your adorable barks will be missed Gabe the Dog.

Damn.

Sleep tight, pupper.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

They've confirmed cosmetic customization

That's what I wanted that felt like it was missing

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

As if Mama Luigi's death was bad enough, another good meme hero died recently.

Your adorable barks will be missed Gabe the Dog.

Crickey, poor dog.

Looks like I won't be smiling with joy when I listen to remixes like this anymore.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I gettin forgotten a lot recently
bye you guys. Have fun

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Crickey, poor dog.

Looks like I won't be smiling with joy when I listen to remixes like this anymore.

And of course you had to post the remix with the jump scare.

 

[lily.]

I don't think it's really all that fair to call those who prefer subs dumb.
Sure they may not understand the language, but the point is that they find it more immersive/enjoyable that way. It has nothing to do about whether or not they can tell if the voice acting is bad.
Square Enix releases two versions of Call of Duty in Japan, one subbed, one dubbed. The subbed one is more popular because it feels a lot more immersive to the players.

I know a lot of people like to watch subbed stuff because they can watch it earlier than having to wait for it to be dubbed. Though there are definitely people that get elitist about things but people get like that about a lot of things. Personally I think it depends on the show, some are super duper amazing dubbed like baccano and durarara. Though a lot of the time sub is great because even if the japanese voice actors are bad it's harder to tell than if english voice actors are bad because you don't understand the language so you can't really tell lol.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

As if Mama Luigi's death was bad enough, another good meme hero died recently.

Your adorable barks will be missed Gabe the Dog.

I heard small dogs tend to live to be old or so I remeber

 

[Coricus]

A lot of Japanese voice acting can be bad and easily noticeable.

Exhibit A:

I was pulled up onto a stage at a theme park for an acting segment and I put more passion into it than that.

And that was a day when everyone including myself was cooking alive.

. . .TBH, the Digivice activation sequence felt like it was missing something as well, although that's an animation thing.

Sunflowmon has a nice design for a sunflower, though.

 

[Chrono.]

I was pulled up onto a stage at a theme park for an acting segment and I put more passion into it than that.

And that was a day when everyone including myself was cooking alive.

. . .TBH, the Digivice activation sequence felt like it was missing something as well, although that's an animation thing.

Sunflowmon has a nice design for a sunflower, though.

On the Digivice part, they're kinda not as flashy since a lot of characters had em that time instead of just the mains.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I heard small dogs tend to live to be old or so I remeber

At least up to a whooping 16 years.

Our miniature dachshund is still kicking at 12.

 

[Kurri ★]

I know a lot of people like to watch subbed stuff because they can watch it earlier than having to wait for it to be dubbed. Though there are definitely people that get elitist about things but people get like that about a lot of things. Personally I think it depends on the show, some are super duper amazing dubbed like baccano and durarara. Though a lot of the time sub is great because even if the japanese voice actors are bad it's harder to tell than if english voice actors are bad because you don't understand the language so you can't really tell lol.

Subs coming out before dubs is usually why I watch shows subbed. Which is why Space Dandy was cool since both came out at once (in fact, the English dub came out before the sub)

 

[Coricus]

On the Digivice part, they're kinda not as flashy since a lot of characters had em that time instead of just the mains.

Ah, that makes sense, they had to pump out a lot of them.

I think a couple of whooshing effects could have gone a long way since it seems a bit empty, but then every little bit of animation does cost quite a bit in time and money.

 

[Aetheri]

For those that missed it...Nintendo's uploaded the gameplay for the various games they showed off from the Treehouse....

This showcase is for Arms...

I have to say this game looks like it may be worth picking up...a good amount of depth and a taste of some differences in the stages shows how varied battling can be at times...In addition the characters having their own unique attributes and abilities...as well as different items...

I'm sure other characters will be revealed as time goes on, but I'm kind of hoping for a clown with those extendable boxing gloves...and perhaps a rope Scarecrow or something...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Well, that's they're problem. They're annoying (and at times overbearing) but I still don't think it's fair to call them dumb unless they're becoming offensive about it.

I mean, if you give both a shot and somehow prefer the Japanese version, that's absolutely fine. But not watching **** like Patrick Seitz yell "USELESS", seeing Christopher Sabat be the most pimping priest to exist and more because it isn't the Japanese voice is stupid. Anime has become mainstream, therefore we won't get 4kids tier dubbing ever again unless it was what was intended

 

[allison]

ATTENTION EVERYONE.

I HAVE CONSTRUCTED A FINE WORK OF CINEMA:

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.

YOU MAY NOW CONTINUE SCROLLING.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

How long can the body go without sleeping before you start hallusinating?

 

[SuperMii3D]

What's wrong with people?

They should draw Dees, not *****.

You mean Dees Nu- *Speared*

 

[allison]

How long can the body go without sleeping before you start hallusinating?

It's already started

 

[Cutie Gwen]

How long can the body go without sleeping before you start hallusinating?

Just get some sleep then, you NEED sleep Taiko *hug*

 

[Aetheri]

How long can the body go without sleeping before you start hallusinating?

3 days....